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Well my wee sv cherubs, looks like I have no option but to get sell/trade in/swap my beloved Billy Blue the sv650s!!! After a long ride yesterday my lower neck is killing me again. Find when I'm riding for more than an hour I get cramp in my right calf and my neck aches. Initially thought it was due to my inexperience [just passed my test last summer], or perhaps the fact that I won't see 40 again and that it's just "auld bones"!! But, to be honest I think I need a comfier riding position. I have my heart set on the Triump Sprint ST, but with a 1050 engine size I'm guessing it's too powerful for a novice? Someone suggested the Yamaha Fazer 600 [but it's not as pretty as my 'Billy'!].
Anyhoo guys and gals, any suggestions gratefully received. :cry:
appollo1
21-03-09, 09:30 AM
If you want a more upright riding position then the Fazer, Bandit, Hornet are all in that category.
I am sure there will be more experienced riders who have had a variety of bikes along shortly to add to the list.
Tiger 55
21-03-09, 10:02 AM
Being similarly on life's downslope, I've started to hanker after something less wristy myself.
Jillyburds Hornet S is miles better for the commute and the potter, only really losing out on the blast. Stopped making them in 2002 though.
The Fazer isn't as handsome as the SV, you're right about that, but it's a terrific bike by all accounts. Less terrific but better looking is the FZ6 which replaced it.
And don't worry about the Sprint being too powerful for a novice, they fitted a speed control device to the right handlebar. I say go for it!
Choices choices... :)
TheRamJam
21-03-09, 12:13 PM
Well my wee sv cherubs, looks like I have no option but to get sell/trade in/swap my beloved Billy Blue the sv650s!!! After a long ride yesterday my lower neck is killing me again. Find when I'm riding for more than an hour I get cramp in my right calf and my neck aches. Initially thought it was due to my inexperience [just passed my test last summer], or perhaps the fact that I won't see 40 again and that it's just "auld bones"!! But, to be honest I think I need a comfier riding position. I have my heart set on the Triump Sprint ST, but with a 1050 engine size I'm guessing it's too powerful for a novice? Someone suggested the Yamaha Fazer 600 [but it's not as pretty as my 'Billy'!].
Anyhoo guys and gals, any suggestions gratefully received. :cry:
Shame sbout the the aches on the SV. I had a go on a mates Bandit 1250 GT and its excellant. Its very upright, easy to handle for a big bike and I can reach the ground with both feet no problem (5ft 10). Its got massive power but its very usable in just about any gear and it doesn't scare you if you open the throttle. The engine sounds solid and its not that expensive to buy new either.
Good luck in yer new bike hunt though
JamesMio
21-03-09, 01:25 PM
Being stuck with the Pan all weekend whilst the SV keeps popping fuses, I can wholeheartedly agree with you!!
I love sportsbikes, I love the way they look, I love the way they sound, but I hate how sore I get riding them!!
I'm tempted to flog the SV once I've got it sorted this spring/summer and hunt out a new play thing instead, and keep the Pan for mile munching runs.
Well my wee sv cherubs, looks like I have no option but to get sell/trade in/swap my beloved Billy Blue the sv650s!!! After a long ride yesterday my lower neck is killing me again. Find when I'm riding for more than an hour I get cramp in my right calf and my neck aches. Initially thought it was due to my inexperience [just passed my test last summer], or perhaps the fact that I won't see 40 again and that it's just "auld bones"!! But, to be honest I think I need a comfier riding position. I have my heart set on the Triump Sprint ST, but with a 1050 engine size I'm guessing it's too powerful for a novice? Someone suggested the Yamaha Fazer 600 [but it's not as pretty as my 'Billy'!].
Anyhoo guys and gals, any suggestions gratefully received. :cry:
Yeah Im kinda in the same position, going to have a look at a street triple pretty soon, they,ve a fantastic write up and are very well priced too,and the 1050 sprint ? what tigger said, the throttle goes both ways ;)
tigersaw
21-03-09, 01:43 PM
I too suffered the same, had to sell the SVS after a year. Bikes I've had that are really comfortable are a Hornet, Bandit 1200 (but too heavy) and the current ER6F, which I find very comfortable and so does my pillion.
:riding:Nice to know I'm not alone! I love the sports bikes too and always drooled over the Fireblade but just know it would cripple me! Going to have a look at all the bikes you suggested. Thanks so much Dx
JamesMio
21-03-09, 01:53 PM
Street Triple is a great shout!
shonadoll
21-03-09, 05:47 PM
Come and have a go on my naked sv, MUCH better riding position. I'm after a Triumph street triple too.
ArtyLady
21-03-09, 05:57 PM
I've a naked SV with additional bar risers - I have a dodgy arm/neck/shoulder and cant put any weight through it. Bike is now like an armchair :D
Milky Bar Kid
21-03-09, 06:56 PM
Re the suggestion of the bandit, I had one previously and at 5ft6, I couldn't hardly get my feet on the ground, not ideal, spesh when as like me u are still a novice.....why dont you go an have a sit on a few diff bikes and see what you like the feel of?
shonadoll
21-03-09, 08:46 PM
Re the suggestion of the bandit, I had one previously and at 5ft6, I couldn't hardly get my feet on the ground, not ideal, spesh when as like me u are still a novice.....why dont you go an have a sit on a few diff bikes and see what you like the feel of?
I found the bandit really wide which didn't help with the feet down thing either.
suicidesam
21-03-09, 08:53 PM
Been there.. done that.. now got the 1200 Blandit. Heavy to lift off the stand, really easy to ride when it's on the move though. Any bike can be altered to suit the vertically challenged btw :p
Mate used to have a 600 Fuzzy, was most annoyed when i used to leave him on hilly bits on my SV! Got to razz the 600's to get them to do normal blat on sv.. my old 600 Blandit lived in the top end of the rev band ;) all the bikes that have been mentioned above are good all round bikes, ST's cracking tho.. also the best noise.. nice kinda howl when ya get it going!
Good luck with the search.
maviczap
21-03-09, 09:14 PM
Come and have a go on my naked sv, MUCH better riding position. I'm after a Triumph street triple too.
I had to read the first part of your post twice, it could be easily misinterpreted LOL :p
Fit some helibars, they'll improve the riding position a bit, although I still get cramp in my legs ands bottom all too quickly
DL 650 nice upright bike with a SV engine :D
Ch00
JohnMcL7
13-05-09, 01:07 AM
I'm curious if the SV got any better for anyone? I'm starting to worry about my choice here, when I first started riding the CBR125 I didn't find it that comfortable but I became used to it and could go runs in it no problem. I did a 150 mile odd run today (long time on the bike as road wasn't fast) and I feel like I've been out walking all day rather than sitting with my ass on a bike, my wrists and shoulders just feel worn.
I'm looking into a gel seat which should help my bum a bit I'm hoping but not sure if there's much I can do about the wrists. I've read recommendations to change the angle of the levers but even when I'm not using them much I find it hard not to put weight on the handlebars.
This seemed an appropriate thread to post in as I'm not getting rid of the SV (although I have pretty much given up on the idea of travelling with it) but any tips to ease the pain of riding would be appreciated. For reference I hit 30 next year and around 5,10 in height.
John
rictus01
13-05-09, 02:00 AM
I'm curious if the SV got any better for anyone? I'm starting to worry about my choice here, when I first started riding the CBR125 I didn't find it that comfortable but I became used to it and could go runs in it no problem. I did a 150 mile odd run today (long time on the bike as road wasn't fast) and I feel like I've been out walking all day rather than sitting with my ass on a bike, my wrists and shoulders just feel worn.
I'm looking into a gel seat which should help my bum a bit I'm hoping but not sure if there's much I can do about the wrists. I've read recommendations to change the angle of the levers but even when I'm not using them much I find it hard not to put weight on the handlebars.
This seemed an appropriate thread to post in as I'm not getting rid of the SV (although I have pretty much given up on the idea of travelling with it) but any tips to ease the pain of riding would be appreciated. For reference I hit 30 next year and around 5,10 in height.
John
Morning John, I myself am just back on a sports position bike (clipons and high pegs) and it took me a couple of weeks to get over the wrist ache thing.
as I have a bum knee gripping the tank to take the weight threw my lower back was hard, but I'm fitting some stompgrip to hopefully help that.
Cheers Mark.
Tiger 55
13-05-09, 06:51 AM
any tips to ease the pain of riding would be appreciated. For reference I hit 30 next year and around 5,10 in height.
Ride more. :) Seriously, ride further and more often so you build up the muscles in your wrists, forearms, neck - everywhere! - and it'll be better. I gave up on gripping the tank with my knees because I simply couldn't be ar$ed and after a while I just stopped thinking about it. A Pan European it's not but it'll take you on holiday and 350 mile trips for ice cream with lots of grins.
All my aches and pains now I just put down to old age. For reference I hit 43 next year and I'm 5'7" with unnaturally short arms.
I really thinking about a speed triple just now had a test ride on one the other day and found it fantastic. Really comfortable riding position and easy to handle, I have only had my bike license about 1 year and I had no problems with the 1050cc. As others have said, you don't need to open the throttle all the way.
i had the exact same problem. but with added 'short ar$e syndrome' as well.
it's amazing what you can actually do to an sv for not a lot of cash.. for the record i never have liked suzuki's 'sport' riding position, i always found them to be very wristy..
for the price of a set of good adjustable clipons it can transform the sv's riding position. the ones i have are not much higher than standard but because they are slightly more angled towards the rider and straighter it 'feels' higher and comfier..
SoulKiss
13-05-09, 09:08 AM
07 onwards Z750 :)
You know it makes sense.
wyrdness
13-05-09, 09:29 AM
I really thinking about a speed triple just now had a test ride on one the other day and found it fantastic. Really comfortable riding position and easy to handle, I have only had my bike license about 1 year and I had no problems with the 1050cc. As others have said, you don't need to open the throttle all the way.
I've had a 1050 Speed Triple for several years and find the riding position and ergonomics to be absolutely perfect. Everything is in exactly the right place for me (I'm 5'10) and it's comfortable enough to ride all day, even with the standard seat.
When I was looking for a new bike, I went to the Ally Pally show and sat on several bikes, including the 1200GS and the SuperDuke. The Speed Triple felt so right compared to the others, which is why I bought one.
punyXpress
13-05-09, 09:49 AM
As others have said:
Make sure levers are at correct angle - even if not using them much they affect wrists & lower arms.
Think some have tried naked footrests on S's can that be done with pointy? It could ease the cramp.
Swap fo a naked. Don't worry about windblast, you'll soon adapt & any pain is only inthe early stages.
Come up to Applecross & try my K2 naked next weekend. After a cracking dry weekend I MAY be a little saddle-sore but that will be a small price to pay.
( Auld Fart ) aged 67, so your age will NOT be a problem with any of the bikes suggested.
STRAMASHER
13-05-09, 09:49 AM
I'm curious if the SV got any better for anyone? I'm starting to worry about my choice here, when I first started riding the CBR125 I didn't find it that comfortable but I became used to it and could go runs in it no problem. I did a 150 mile odd run today (long time on the bike as road wasn't fast) and I feel like I've been out walking all day rather than sitting with my ass on a bike, my wrists and shoulders just feel worn.
I'm looking into a gel seat which should help my bum a bit I'm hoping but not sure if there's much I can do about the wrists. I've read recommendations to change the angle of the levers but even when I'm not using them much I find it hard not to put weight on the handlebars.
This seemed an appropriate thread to post in as I'm not getting rid of the SV (although I have pretty much given up on the idea of travelling with it) but any tips to ease the pain of riding would be appreciated. For reference I hit 30 next year and around 5,10 in height.
John
You are just seeing that bikes are a lot more physical than a lot of people think. Using "bits" you normally don't use.
The bigger/heavier bike you get the more physical it gets, like your CBR- SV. Thats quite a jump and from a regular riding position on a very light bike to a heavier sport one. So different "asks" on your bod.
As has been said, ride more and your body will adapt and not get as sore as quick.
Also the more experience you get the more your speed will pick up and the riding position will make more sense and become a little more comfortable, certainly on the wrists from wind pressure pushing you back, thus taking a little weight off your wrists.
Gie' it time;):)
Cruiser. Big, shiny, and comfortable :clown:
appollo1
13-05-09, 10:08 AM
All my aches and pains now I just put down to old age. For reference I hit 43 next year and I'm 5'7" with unnaturally short arms.
:laughat::laughat::laughat:
STRAMASHER
13-05-09, 10:12 AM
Cruiser. Big, shiny, and comfortable :clown:
:pukel:
....and snap your leg clean off if you corner normally with pegs instead of footboards, spread your legs wider than a twapenny ***** at any more than 55mph and crush your coxix after 55mile!:mrgreen:
Thought this thread was going to be of Dawn's new "sit-up" bik? We won't laugh jus cos it a Kwak. :p
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corner? :o
....and snap your leg clean off if you corner normally
[quote=STRAMASHER;1904269]spread your legs wider than a twapenny *****[quote]
That is a lovely image there mate Haha
[quote=STRAMASHER;1904269]spread your legs wider than a twapenny *****[quote]
That is a lovely image there mate Haha
You know your setting yourself up again
Kilted Ginger
13-05-09, 12:52 PM
[quote=saoralba;1904370][quote=STRAMASHER;1904269]spread your legs wider than a twapenny *****
You know your setting yourself up again
He never does learn, does he....:bom:
:pukel:
....and snap your leg clean off if you corner normally with pegs instead of footboards, spread your legs wider than a twapenny ***** at any more than 55mph and crush your coxix after 55mile!:mrgreen:
Thought this thread was going to be of Dawn's new "sit-up" bik? We won't laugh jus cos it a Kwak. :p
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Steady now! My Kwak has feelings!:smt018 Haha x
Kilted Ginger
13-05-09, 04:39 PM
Have you got her yet???????
I pick HIM up on Friday. Should have got him last Saturday but 'Bennets' f*kd up my insurance [never ever getting a policy with them again!]
Tears and snorters when I handed over the keys to my sv!:smt022
Jillyburd
13-05-09, 10:34 PM
I pick HIM up on Friday. Should have got him last Saturday but 'Bennets' f*kd up my insurance [never ever getting a policy with them again!]
Tears and snorters when I handed over the keys to my sv!:smt022
We'll all be waiting for the first pics of your new bike Dawn! Good luck! XXX
thanks petal! Will get my 7 year old to show me how to send pics! D:Dx
I pick HIM up on Friday. Should have got him last Saturday but 'Bennets' f*kd up my insurance [never ever getting a policy with them again!]
Tears and snorters when I handed over the keys to my sv!:smt022
Not trying to derail this but that’s not the first time I have heard about folk having problems with Bennets, think I'll stay clear of them when I need to renew.
Hope you enjoy your new bike.
JohnMcL7
14-05-09, 01:13 PM
I've ridden over 1100 miles on the SV, around 600 of those in the last couple of weeks - I was hoping by now the riding would start to get a bit more comfortable.
John
I've ridden over 1100 miles on the SV, around 600 of those in the last couple of weeks - I was hoping by now the riding would start to get a bit more comfortable.
John
are you finding it a bit wrist heavy bud :)
Kilted Ginger
14-05-09, 04:54 PM
I've ridden over 1100 miles on the SV, around 600 of those in the last couple of weeks - I was hoping by now the riding would start to get a bit more comfortable.
John
Jillyburd does that in 2 days:salut:
JohnMcL7
14-05-09, 07:51 PM
Up to 500 miles were small journeys, the 600 miles were over just a couple of journeys which prompted my posts here as the longer trips have left me aching mainly in my shoulders. Hopefully I can get it working a bit better for me.
John
Nice to know the youngsters get sore on the sv aswell!:lol:
Nice to know the youngsters get sore on the sv aswell!:lol:
thats cause they shoulda bought a nekkid no aches from mine :cool:
Too true! But the fully faired is so, so, so pretty! [worth the pain]:smt101
Too true! But the fully faired is so, so, so pretty! [worth the pain]:smt101
i know but i as all eventually see the light ;) :D
Well, picked up my new baby today, and will post pics as soon as someone intelligent can show me what to do.
The dealers must have got a good laugh with me lately....
Stupid wumin award no.1: burst into tears when I handed over the keys to my sv last week
Stupid wumin award no.2: took the bike back after 5mins because I thought one of the dipped lights didn't work [both light up in the sv], only to be told thats what Kawasaki do! Duh! Do I feel stupid or what!?
To hell with the diet.... I'm having a glass [or three] of wine tonight, and kill a few more brain cells!:oops:
appollo1
15-05-09, 02:12 PM
Well, picked up my new baby today, and will post pics as soon as someone intelligent can show me what to do.
The dealers must have got a good laugh with me lately....
Stupid wumin award no.1: burst into tears when I handed over the keys to my sv last week
Stupid wumin award no.2: took the bike back after 5mins because I thought one of the dipped lights didn't work [both light up in the sv], only to be told thats what Kawasaki do! Duh! Do I feel stupid or what!?
To hell with the diet.... I'm having a glass [or three] of wine tonight, and kill a few more brain cells!:oops:
oops - i am sure they have had to deal with worse than that before.
Stupid wumin!!! no way just confused !!! ;)
All these years I've passed bikes and thought " oh wonder if that guy knows one of his lights isn't working!"
Want my sv back with both lights! Haha!:shock:
SoulKiss
15-05-09, 02:36 PM
All these years I've passed bikes and thought " oh wonder if that guy knows one of his lights isn't working!"
Want my sv back with both lights! Haha!:shock:
So which Kwak did you go with (cant see it mentioned in the thread :P)
ER6f in black. Yes not as fast as my sv650s. But so comfy for long;) rides
Well my wee sv cherubs, looks like I have no option but to get sell/trade in/swap my beloved Billy Blue the sv650s!!! After a long ride yesterday my lower neck is killing me again. Find when I'm riding for more than an hour I get cramp in my right calf and my neck aches. Initially thought it was due to my inexperience [just passed my test last summer], or perhaps the fact that I won't see 40 again and that it's just "auld bones"!! But, to be honest I think I need a comfier riding position. I have my heart set on the Triump Sprint ST, but with a 1050 engine size I'm guessing it's too powerful for a novice? Someone suggested the Yamaha Fazer 600 [but it's not as pretty as my 'Billy'!].
Anyhoo guys and gals, any suggestions gratefully received. :cry:Honda Hornet! The 1050 triumphs are a very nice bike indeed, and the throttle is not digital.
SoulKiss
15-05-09, 03:24 PM
ER6f in black. Yes not as fast as my sv650s. But so comfy for long;) rides
Welcome to the Black Kwak club, alongside Myself (Z750), Lozzo(Versys) and Mr Anderson (ZX-6R).
Welcome to the Black Kwak club, alongside Myself (Z750), Lozzo(Versys) and Mr Anderson (ZX-6R).
Thanks for that Soulkiss! So I'm not barred from the sv org then?!
Nice to know I'm in good company!\\:D/
SoulKiss
15-05-09, 04:46 PM
Thanks for that Soulkiss! So I'm not barred from the sv org then?!
Nice to know I'm in good company!\\:D/
I do have to add that I am also still a founder member of the Red Pointy Club :)
Good for you.
Will always miss my blue pointy:rolleyes:
shonadoll
15-05-09, 08:36 PM
I really thinking about a speed triple just now had a test ride on one the other day and found it fantastic. Really comfortable riding position and easy to handle, I have only had my bike license about 1 year and I had no problems with the 1050cc. As others have said, you don't need to open the throttle all the way.
I made the mistake of sitting on a street triple the other day- felt fabulous, I'm going to have one.
shonadoll
15-05-09, 08:39 PM
Good for you.
Will always miss my blue pointy:rolleyes:
I wanna see the new bike!!!! I'll whine, I warn ya:p
:compcrash:May have to ride oot to your end of the woods to show you Shona!
Having 'technical difficulties' i.e don't have a fekin clue how to post pics!
Yes, I know, I'm a dinosaur!
Tiger 55
16-05-09, 08:27 AM
don't have a fekin clue how to post pics!
Do you have a picture even? If you email it me I'll put it up for you, I can't stand Shonadoll's whining!
Aww! She's a wee pet!
KG has sent me a link on how to do it. If I have any problems, I'll email you a pic Tiger.
Thanks for yer help young man:smt036
Tiger 55
16-05-09, 08:48 AM
young man:smt036
Some people you just can't help taking a liking too! :)
I made the mistake of sitting on a street triple the other day- felt fabulous, I'm going to have one.
Don't forget to put a sticker on it or something, just so you know which one is yours amongst the million other ones. :D:p
shonadoll
16-05-09, 04:08 PM
Do you have a picture even? If you email it me I'll put it up for you, I can't stand Shonadoll's whining!
Oi!!!!! You have been taking bravery tablets:smt064;)
Well put a few miles on the new bike today. All I can say is the sv is far superior!
'Not as responsive?'.......slow as fekin toffee! Also miss the engine braking!
Doesn't help when OH says, " oh perhaps you should have got the z750 instead!"
That wines getting opened again tonight!
Don't mean to sound ungrateful [ I'm thankful for having a bike at all], but really not in the sv650s league!:drink:
SoulKiss
16-05-09, 07:24 PM
Well put a few miles on the new bike today. All I can say is the sv is far superior!
'Not as responsive?'.......slow as fekin toffee! Also miss the engine braking!
Doesn't help when OH says, " oh perhaps you should have got the z750 instead!"
That wines getting opened again tonight!
Don't mean to sound ungrateful [ I'm thankful for having a bike at all], but really not in the sv650s league!:drink:
Is it a brand new bike?
If so you may be able to swap for the Zed if you have the extra pennies for the trade-up - I believe most dealers will allow that.
However if you go go IL4 you will never have the engine braking or the punch of the V-Twin.
There is of course the Gladius if you liked the SV engine.....
Thanks soulkiss. Don't like the gladius tbh.
Will hang onto the bike for a year then trade for a z750 :smt039
Kilted Ginger
16-05-09, 08:16 PM
It may grow on you dawn, just needs to be ridden (very) differently, more like wee H's Bandit, ask him for some pointers.
Very different torque / power set up to the sv (as with all parallel's) take a bit getting used to but you may find you come to like it.
Give me a shout if you want to go for a wee run, or you and wee H could pop over to me for a coffee, i'd be willing to wring its neck for you;)
I love the sports bikes too and always drooled over the Fireblade but just know it would cripple me!
You know what? Riding the 2005 blade felt a lot comfier than the SV and great to ride at higher speeds where it would be a chore for nekkids. I'm 43 next September so no youngster but I'm not throwing the towel yet. I say get yourself fitter if you can and you'll be alright.
JohnMcL7
16-05-09, 08:42 PM
It may grow on you dawn, just needs to be ridden (very) differently, more like wee H's Bandit, ask him for some pointers.
Very different torque / power set up to the sv (as with all il4's) take a bit getting used to but you may find you come to like it.
Give me a shout if you want to go for a wee run, or you and wee H could pop over to me for a coffee, i'd be willing to wring its neck for you;)
I'm getting a bit confused here, what bike are we talking about? I thought it was the Er-6f but I thought it was a parallel twin rather than an il4?
John
Kilted Ginger
16-05-09, 08:54 PM
sorry, yes it is a parallel twin, still not the same torque / power set up as the v twin (really dont want to get into debate about engine performance as i'm easily confused ;) )
Cheers John, corrected.
Dawn have a look at this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/sportmotorbikes/3087158/Kawasaki-ER-6f-Dream-machine.html)
JohnMcL7
16-05-09, 08:59 PM
I thought I may have the wrong bike as there was a few mentions of a 750, I didn't think there was much debate about the parallel twin vs the v-twin though - reviewers seem to favour the Er-6f but owner's reviews seem to give more of a nod to the SV. I do rather like my v-twin particular the engine braking.
John
It may grow on you dawn, just needs to be ridden (very) differently, more like wee H's Bandit, ask him for some pointers.
Very different torque / power set up to the sv (as with all parallel's) take a bit getting used to but you may find you come to like it.
Give me a shout if you want to go for a wee run, or you and wee H could pop over to me for a coffee, i'd be willing to wring its neck for you;)
Thanks petal! Never had anything new in my life so wanted to get it just right!
Feel free to strangle the wee yin for me!
Wish I'd gone with my 'hunch' and bought a triumph Sprint st. I'm sure I could have handled the thou engine nae bother a ta!](*,)
Kilted Ginger
16-05-09, 09:17 PM
Thanks petal! Never had anything new in my life so wanted to get it just right!
Feel free to strangle the wee yin for me!
Wish I'd gone with my 'hunch' and bought a triumph Sprint st. I'm sure I could have handled the thou engine nae bother a ta!](*,)
By it i was referring to the bike not wee H, lol.
If he thinks i've offered to strangle him i'm never coming to yours for coffee again:smt119
[quote=Kilted Ginger;1910193]sorry, yes it is a parallel twin, still not the same torque / power set up as the v twin (really dont want to get into debate about engine performance as i'm easily confused ;) )
Cheers John, corrected.
Dawn have a look at this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorbikes/sportmotorbikes/3087158/Kawasaki-ER-6f-Dream-machine.html)[
Oh thanks for that KG. Beginning to like it more now!:smt023
By it i was referring to the bike not wee H, lol.
If he thinks i've offered to strangle him i'm never coming to yours for coffee again:smt119
Haha! He's a big softy!
Kettle always on for sv orgers!
Jillyburd
16-05-09, 10:10 PM
Jillyburd does that in 2 days:salut:
Ha ha! And I don't get a sore botttom! :smile:
Jillyburd
16-05-09, 10:16 PM
Oi!!!!! You have been taking bravery tablets:smt064;)
No, he has a runaway bravery gland.... :smile:
appollo1
16-05-09, 10:19 PM
Jillyburd does that in 2 days:salut:
Ha ha! And I don't get a sore botttom! :smile:
:o:confused::confused::confused:
note to self - read all the pages first !!!!
don't jump to conclusions!!!!!
phew!!:rolleyes:
Jillyburd
16-05-09, 10:29 PM
:o:confused::confused::confused:
note to self - read all the pages first !!!!
don't jump to conclusions!!!!!
phew!!:rolleyes:
Chuckle! Nice one re rescue dogs. :D I had to go back and read posts, suggest you do too! :thumleft:
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