View Full Version : Bond or screw to attach a fender extenda?
Hello everyone
I have just purchased the above from Pyramid Plastics and I have two options to attach it to my mudguard bonding or screwing it or both. I like the idea of bonding as there will be no screws visible. I have beem recommended to use Sikaflex 221 be it seems I will have to prime the items before I can apply the adhesive.
Anyone done this and what would you recommend.
timwilky
24-03-09, 09:19 AM
bond it.
I used ordinary epoxy resin, fit the extender against the fender and draw a line round it, use some emery/sandpaper etc to abrade the area marked out.
apply glue and use a couple of small G clamps to hold the assembly overnight.
Simples
vardypeeps
24-03-09, 10:50 AM
I used the glue but not to the same extent as timwilky and it started to fall off.
I removed it cleaned it up and used the screws instead but sprayed them black before installing it.
Respray SV
24-03-09, 07:57 PM
Use the screws - I've done this on two SV's now and never had any problems. I would suggest removing the entire mudguard first so you can accurately line up the extender to the original. Then put the original back on, then fit the extender.
maviczap
24-03-09, 08:10 PM
bond it.
I used ordinary epoxy resin, fit the extender against the fender and draw a line round it, use some emery/sandpaper etc to abrade the area marked out.
apply glue and use a couple of small G clamps to hold the assembly overnight.
Simples
+1 screws look naff, bond it. This the way I did it
dizzyblonde
24-03-09, 08:13 PM
I don't mind the screws in mine.,its not as if you stare at the mudguard for long....which reminds me, I still have to get the other one fitted with the extender in the kitchen
xXBADGERXx
24-03-09, 08:14 PM
I used Silicone sealant on mine then screwed it in place , I use my bike daily and did not want the chance of it stuttering like Gareth Gates in the rain on a dark and Stormy night . I may post the pics I did of this in a "how to" thread later on this week :)
maviczap
24-03-09, 08:19 PM
I used Silicone sealant on mine then screwed it in place , I use my bike daily and did not want the chance of it stuttering like Gareth Gates in the rain on a dark and Stormy night . I may post the pics I did of this in a "how to" thread later on this week :)
It would probably hold without the screws, as silcon sealant sticks better than that stuff to the bedsheets :p
plus its easy to get a nice finish with it, unlike Araldite. It cleans off nice and easy.
Top tip: couple of drops of washing up liquid with water, then use a finger with this to smooth it off. Gives that professional finish to silcon sealant
xXBADGERXx
24-03-09, 08:21 PM
The Silicone was only really to stop crap getting under the lip of the Fenda Extender and to provide a secondary bond :)
kwak zzr
24-03-09, 09:25 PM
i always screw mine.
maviczap
24-03-09, 09:26 PM
i always screw mine.
LOL :p
kwak zzr
24-03-09, 09:28 PM
:) well i do lol
Zen Beetle
24-03-09, 11:12 PM
I can recommend Silkaflex. When set it feels like rubber and so is excellent at absorbing shock and vibrations. I used the black so that any surplus would blend with the black of the fender extender. I tested its strength by bonding two pieces of plastic and when set I couldn't separate them. A more aesthetic and permanent solution than using screws.
maviczap
25-03-09, 10:46 AM
I can recommend Silkaflex. When set it feels like rubber and so is excellent at absorbing shock and vibrations. I used the black so that any surplus would blend with the black of the fender extender. I tested its strength by bonding two pieces of plastic and when set I couldn't separate them. A more aesthetic and permanent solution than using screws.
H'mm sounds sexy :-D
Zen Beetle
25-03-09, 05:58 PM
Rubber, vibrations, black, bonding; what was I thinking of! Perhaps my subconscious is trying to tell me something? Then again the very word Silkaflex is highly suggestive. ****, I'm digging a whole for myself here. Don't want to be banned for perverting the minds of younger, impressionable fellow members (and only on my 4th posting).
I use stainless steel pop rivets, I thought everybody did it this way?
maviczap
25-03-09, 07:09 PM
Now that's perverted :mrgreen:
Zen Beetle
25-03-09, 08:54 PM
Stainless steel pop rivets. Sounds painful!
it only hurts the first time
Zen Beetle
27-03-09, 10:27 PM
There's no gain without pain.
Bond. Do a search. Sod having rusty screws in your your mudguard.
xXBADGERXx
28-03-09, 05:59 AM
Bond. Do a search. Sod having rusty screws in your your mudguard.
Or I can send you some of the Stainless ones I used :)
007 it, Cloggsy did mine on his old SV front fender.... hasn't budged in 6 years....
sKiTz-0
07-08-10, 07:17 PM
007?
sKiTz-0
07-08-10, 07:48 PM
Ah, how very silly of me.
Here was me thinking it was some sort of brand of something to use. Not just good old James.
Anybody got any more suggestions/experience on this? I have araldite to hand so for me that would be the easiest way to go.
MattCollins
08-08-10, 01:47 AM
Stainless steel pop rivets.
Ditto... with a washer behind it.
A bit of PU windscreen sealant is far superior to silicon - Sikaflex can be either. Epoxy isn't flexible enough IMO.
independentphoto
08-08-10, 11:02 PM
Sikaflex on mine for a few years now and all the salt that Scottish winters throw at it. That stiff is specifically made for external automotive use and does a great job.
Garry
barwel1992
09-08-10, 01:01 AM
man glue
....... just saying
The Guru
09-08-10, 08:31 AM
man glue
....... just saying
Theres something seriously wrong with you if your gona:toss: over your bike.
(http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=134585&highlight=fender)Evostik (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=134585)
barwel1992
09-08-10, 09:09 AM
haha i was joking although there could be some strange people that would
The Guru
09-08-10, 10:15 AM
haha i was joking...
I don't believe you.
barwel1992
09-08-10, 10:16 AM
fine dont then ;)
MattCollins
09-08-10, 10:36 AM
Sikaflex on mine for a few years now and all the salt that Scottish winters throw at it. That stiff is specifically made for external automotive use and does a great job.
Garry
Not saying otherwise ;), their products are hard to fault if used in accordance with manufacturers recommendations for applications, just that Sikaflex is a brand name with a multitude of different products that can be anything. You don't happen to have the specific product name or number?
The stuff that I used was Bostik 70-08A SMP (not PU) adhesive.
hongman
09-08-10, 10:48 AM
I screwed mine, but I got it the day before the AR and needed it on and ready, didnt want wet plug syndrome.
Given the time though I would rather have tried bonding it, just looks neater.
Although I dont really look at it all that much! Forget its there.
I screwed mine,
snigger :D
hongman
09-08-10, 11:15 AM
lol.
AND I ENJOYED SCREWING IT, 4 TIMES BACK TO BACK!
now you're just exaggerating ;)
hongman
09-08-10, 11:23 AM
Not really.
There were 4 screws, which I did one after the other, and I enjoyed doing it.
;)
independentphoto
09-08-10, 11:28 AM
Can't recall exactly which product I used since it's been disposed of after passing its shelf life. A look on the web suggests Sikaflex 255 these days. There are all sorts of exterior grade adhesives with some kind of elasticity that would no-doubt suit this application. I know that mine isn't going anywhere and that's good for me.
Cheers,
Garry
sKiTz-0
09-08-10, 09:39 PM
Cheers guys, still not got round to doing it yet, but must priorotise if this weeks weather report is anything to go by!
Steve_God
10-08-10, 11:14 AM
I went for the sticky pads + screws - can never be too sure ;)
I've gone for gluing. Bolts just look awful in my opinion.
I used BISON Bisonite (or Power Adhesive as it is called in my country).
http://www.bison.net/en/products/647-2-components-adhesives/product/1446-power-adhesive-bisonite/
It looks very sturdy right now but I'll have to run it for a few hundred miles and then update if it sticks OK.
Cheers :)
Having made a little more than 4000 kilometers with the glued fenda extenda I can say it holds on perfectly :-)
Stonesie
04-07-11, 01:43 PM
5,500 miles on a glued fenda extenda (tiger seal) and no signs of it moving.
Kirkybhoy
05-07-11, 12:26 PM
Sticky pads & screwed it (but could only manage twice back to back;))
muddydude
06-07-11, 03:13 PM
mines screwed n its never moved yet . ;-)
Mark-SV-UK
17-01-14, 05:24 PM
Has anyone tried gorilla glue (waterproof) adhesive for fender extender?
The gorilla glue is a bit ott.
We use silicon on the roof spoilers of the demo cars. They are fine
Preparation is the key
andrewsmith
17-01-14, 06:44 PM
Araldite and 2 g clamps,
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Mark-SV-UK
17-01-14, 06:46 PM
What you mean ott will it work as its a lil cheaper than sikaflex and tigerseal? What name of stuff you use? I just dont want it dropping off. And screws would just spoil the carbon fibre mudguard
maviczap
17-01-14, 07:36 PM
The gorilla glue is a bit ott.
We use silicon on the roof spoilers of the demo cars. They are fine
Preparation is the key
+1 on the silcon sealant, done it on more than one mudguard, you get a good finish & its easy to clean off
Araldite and 2 g clamps,
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Did this on one, but bloomin difficult to clean up araldite
Just sayin ;)
kaivalagi
17-01-14, 08:17 PM
+1 on the silcon sealant, done it on more than one mudguard, you get a good finish & its easy to clean off
Another vote for silicon sealant! Worked fine on the SV when I had that and again on the SM-T...just remove the mudguard/fender first before doing the obvious
Gorilla glue was about £10 for 250 ml.
A tube of silicon was 99p
Ok Mr Joe Public that might be £1.50
Plus gorilla is runny thin and a heart ach to use.
Silly is alot more forgiving
Mark-SV-UK
17-01-14, 09:45 PM
What just normal bathroom silicone. Really wow
I found gorilla glue for 6.00
What just normal bathroom silicone. Really wow
I found gorilla glue for 6.00
It's not stated as bathroom glue. It's for general sealing.
Oh and gator glue expands when it cures so on a roof spoiler it has every chance of going Tits up real easy.
Mark-SV-UK
17-01-14, 09:59 PM
So what are we saying is best all round then guys ???? And product name would be great as well
maviczap
17-01-14, 10:01 PM
I just used normal silcon sealant from Homebase, clamp it in place until its cured.
Its stickier than sticky stuff
Dow coring 799
It will allow flex so the front guard can flex
I used this (http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhesives+Sealants/Grab+Adhesive/Stixall+Adhesive+Sealant+290ml+Clear/d180/sd3199/p77137)
Left it to cure overnight clamped in place, and ever moved in a year I had it on.
I stuck an X trail spoiler on with
http://www.sealantsandtoolsdirect.co.uk/adhesives/marine__auto_and_specialist_adhesives_LC2576/everbuild_stixall_colour_hybrid_sealant_adhesive_c 3_300ml_P23334.html
It only needed masking tape and was solid next day
Ginger500
20-01-14, 10:01 PM
I bonded my fender extender and its hasn't budged !! I was considering whether to crew it, rivet it or bond !! Now i have bonded it I will never consider doing anything different!!
I used Tiger Seal
Mark-SV-UK
20-01-14, 10:08 PM
Well thanks to a couple of you I went for stixall. Lets wait and see ;-) cheers guys
Mudguard off, drilled and bolted with some nice black anodised dome head bolts either side and then black silicone to stop crud coming thru', 23k and no problems.
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