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walkaboutandy
25-03-09, 05:34 PM
I'm looking at buying a chain rivet tool. I did a search and found your old thread. What one did you buy in the end? Apart from Philbut breaking it was it any good. Was it the one that rivet the pins with the recess in?
Stig
25-03-09, 07:44 PM
I can't remember what make it is. Phil still has it. But yes it worked fine when I had it. I believe apart from the issue with the spring (I blame user error myself :wink:) it works just fine. Maybe Phil will jump in and let me know. :lol:

I'll have a search for the original thread. Not quite sure I understand what you mean about recess.

Edit: Just checked the old thread. Yes it is the recess one. :D
philbut
26-03-09, 03:47 PM
It is unbranded. I think I've seen em sold by various different companies but all seem to be the same. My only comment would be the castings are of a poor quality - fine for occasional use I think but I don't know how much it was. I know the propper ones are very expensive so maybe a bit OTT for a home mechanic. It did the job though once I'd figured out how the bloody thing worked so I reckon take a look on fleabay and see whats going.
philbut
26-03-09, 03:48 PM
link here to what looks to be the one...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHAIN-TOOL-RIVETER-BREAKER-RIVETING-KIT-MOTORBIKE-MX_W0QQitemZ370174671616QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Moto rcycle_Parts?hash=item370174671616&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
philbut
26-03-09, 03:51 PM
Here too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pro-Chain-Cutter-Riveter-Tool-Motocross-Upto-630-Chain_W0QQitemZ140270295078QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_M otorcycle_Parts?hash=item140270295078&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
Stig
26-03-09, 08:53 PM
Oh that's just fine. Borrow my tools, break them whilst using them and then slag it off as a piece of sh*t*

Only joking.
ogden
26-03-09, 11:59 PM
A poor workman blames his tools.

A great workman blames somebody else's!
philbut
27-03-09, 10:30 AM
A poor workman blames his tools.

A great workman blames somebody else's!

:cool:

Sure as hell beats a ball hammer and bit of scrap metal mind!
walkaboutandy
27-03-09, 09:03 PM
Sweet.... cheers for the help. I was thinking of getting the one from B & C as they do spares if you break anything but it is an extra 20 quid. Those ones on flea bay are the same price as garages charge to fit chain and sprockets!
philbut
29-03-09, 10:37 PM
Sweet.... cheers for the help. I was thinking of getting the one from B & C as they do spares if you break anything but it is an extra 20 quid. Those ones on flea bay are the same price as garages charge to fit chain and sprockets!

True, but they only fit them once. I just took my chain in loose qand got them to rivet it up for £5 when I rebuilt the ZZR. OK, so you have to remove the swing are but if you have the wheel off it's only an extra 30min or so.
Sosha
30-03-09, 10:37 AM
OK, so you have to remove the swing are but if you have the wheel off it's only an extra 30min or so.


Or so....
Stig
30-03-09, 12:54 PM
Or so....

Definitely a case of or so, at least it would be if I were doing it.
philbut
30-03-09, 02:18 PM
3 bolts:
1) lower shock mount (possibly top one too to make things a bit easier)
2) Swing arm - dogbones bolt
3) Swing arm mounting bolt.

I reckon 2 min per bolt and then time for faffing / swearing trying to line it all back up.
Stig
30-03-09, 02:45 PM
3 bolts:
1) lower shock mount (possibly top one too to make things a bit easier)
2) Swing arm - dogbones bolt
3) Swing arm mounting bolt.

I reckon 2 min per bolt and then time for faffing / swearing trying to line it all back up.

Can you come round and take the swingarm off the YZF and the SV so I can grease up the linkages? Cheers.
philbut
30-03-09, 02:58 PM
Sounds like a challange to me ;-) But the two hours of driving required messes up my average time though.
sam anon
31-03-09, 10:32 AM
Oh that's just fine. Borrow my tools, break them whilst using them and then slag it off as a piece of sh*t*

Only joking.

Your carb gauges are a piece of cr*p too! ;)
walkaboutandy
31-03-09, 04:00 PM
True, but they only fit them once. I just took my chain in loose qand got them to rivet it up for £5 when I rebuilt the ZZR. OK, so you have to remove the swing are but if you have the wheel off it's only an extra 30min or so.
If the tool was more than the garage then short term tightness and laziness would have overcome me and I would have got the garage to fit it. I got the tool today, looks pretty self explainatory and got the chain and sprockets too, so I'll be busy tonight. If I've got a big enough socket to undo the front sprocket.

Yeah sod taking off the swingarm 40,000 miles of road crud, chain lube and corrosion! ](*,)
Sosha
31-03-09, 04:30 PM
looks pretty self explainatory...

Well if someone could explain the one I got in the post today.... instructions look like a google translation.
walkaboutandy
31-03-09, 04:58 PM
Well if someone could explain the one I got in the post today.... instructions look like a google translation.
Which one did you get? I got this one. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTORCYCLE-CHAIN-LINK-EXTRACTOR-RIVETER-35-630-bike_W0QQitemZ310129938529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item310129938529&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

You don't need most of the bits as they are for small cam and other drive chains. It theoretically is quite simple. You fit the correct size pin then clamp the chain with the main screw and then tighten the inner screw to push the pin in, or out. I got some extra anvil/support bits for supporting the chain while you push the pin in.