Chnaged the oil & filter

[antilochus]

Hi all,

Just thought I would post a follow-on from this threed about servicing my bike:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=128380

I changed the oil and filter yesterday on my SV650S K6 and have to say it was dead easy.

I got the oil from Hein Gericke - about £12 (in the shop) for 4litres
(http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/23_250/products_id/6457)

I got a genuine Suzuki filter from a local motorcycle parts shop for £10.99

I removed the R&G crash bungs and took the lower fairings off - simply needed to remove about 3 bolts each side.

Drained the oil and replaced the filter, topped up with new oil and ran the engine for a couple of mins then checked the oil again and topped up.

All in all about 30mins of effort and bike seems smoother and certainly sounds less harsh.

So for a complete newbie I think this was a job well done and if I can do it ANYONE can :D

[Dave20046]

welldone :D
If it was me though I would have bought an aftermarket filter for a fiver and perhaps used the money I'd saved on posher oil but apparently that heingericke stuff isn't actually bad at all.

[Alpinestarhero]

Nothing in the world beats fresh oil :smt007 i think that HG stuff is Motul, just re-branded? Eitherway, its been getting the proverbial thumbs up on here.

Oil changes certainly are easy, I do mine aswell (not that I'm a technical numpty...but I am very very nervous about doing stuff). Theres no excuse for not changing your oil at regular intervals :D

[k31tha]

did mine yesterday aswell, 20quid for the oil and 8 quid for filter

[Dave20046]

quick note, probably worth wearing gloves whilst doing an oil change (I try to) and infact you're supposed (heard this the other day) wear gloves when doing most work on the bike as lots of oils and greases are cancerous apparently. Skin cancer and skin problems, dermatitis or something.
Not sure about that but I'm pretty sure used engine oil is cancerous so have always worn latex gloves. Try to listen to ymca while you do this so any passing mechanics that see you know you are out and proud so their words won't hurt you.

[Dr T]

Did mine at the weekend on my K8 Sport, no need to remove the fairing lowers, simple job easier.

Mine you that was on the rear paddock stand, so the oil doesn't drip onto the fairing.

[arcdef]

Yeah but by removing them you can check the condition fo the engine ;)

[keith h]

Hi all,

Just thought I would post a follow-on from this threed about servicing my bike:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=128380

I changed the oil and filter yesterday on my SV650S K6 and have to say it was dead easy.

I got the oil from Hein Gericke - about £12 (in the shop) for 4litres
(http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/23_250/products_id/6457)

I got a genuine Suzuki filter from a local motorcycle parts shop for £10.99

I removed the R&G crash bungs and took the lower fairings off - simply needed to remove about 3 bolts each side.

Drained the oil and replaced the filter, topped up with new oil and ran the engine for a couple of mins then checked the oil again and topped up.

All in all about 30mins of effort and bike seems smoother and certainly sounds less harsh.

So for a complete newbie I think this was a job well done and if I can do it ANYONE can :D


How tight was your oil filter? I wrecked mine, I had to chisel it off at the rim it was that tight to get off.
I tightened it 1 turn after seal touch, not 2 as recommended!!!

[rossinio]

I had to ram a screwdriver through my filter about 6 times just to turn it enough to get it off. Chain based filter tightener = waste of time, didnt work at all. Definitely worth changing oil regularly though, makes a pretty massive difference to gear changes and general smoothness..

[Dan]

I had to ram a screwdriver through my filter about 6 times just to turn it enough to get it off. Chain based filter tightener = waste of time, didnt work at all. Definitely worth changing oil regularly though, makes a pretty massive difference to gear changes and general smoothness..

Get yourself one of these. They're available from Halfords or other motor stores, or online. You'll never have a problem again with stubborn filters. Alternatively, I've got a pair of cheap rubber-strap wrenches which cost me about two quid from Aldi, and they're excellent at removing filters as well when there's tighter spaces to get into.
http://www.renault4.co.uk/technical/mini-oil-change-tools.jpg

[Dave20046]

Get yourself one of these. They're available from Halfords or other motor stores, or online. You'll never have a problem again with stubborn filters. Alternatively, I've got a pair of cheap rubber-strap wrenches which cost me about two quid from Aldi, and they're excellent at removing filters as well when there's tighter spaces to get into.
http://www.renault4.co.uk/technical/mini-oil-change-tools.jpg
Or an 'oil filter socket' aka 'big ****ing socket'

[Dan]

Or an 'oil filter socket' aka 'big ****ing socket'

Yes, true - but they're not adjustable for every filter you come across. If it's just for a specific vehicle, an oil filter socket is a good choice, but if you have several cars/bikes/vans/trucks/buses/generator sets or whatever to work on, a universal tool makes better financial sense (and saves you carting a suitcase full of different oil filter sockets around!).

[Dave20046]

Yes, true - but they're not adjustable for every filter you come across. If it's just for a specific vehicle, an oil filter socket is a good choice, but if you have several cars/bikes/vans/trucks/buses/generator sets or whatever to work on, a universal tool makes better financial sense (and saves you carting a suitcase full of different oil filter sockets around!).
I borrow them from the local garage lol
If you get on with them always worth asking!

[Dan]

I borrow them from the local garage lol
If you get on with them always worth asking!

Depends on how local it is... and I try to have as little to do with garages as I can, it's always nice to have the tools yourself for when you fancy doing a bit of fettling at 22:00 :D

[Dave20046]

Depends on how local it is... and I try to have as little to do with garages as I can, it's always nice to have the tools yourself for when you fancy doing a bit of fettling at 22:00 :D
I've got far too many tools, I've somehow aquired a compressor too 8-[
It's useful to have some good contact with garages, I nipped round yester day to borrow his multimeter so I can test my electrics. I just make an effort to buy parts from them and then be a bit cheeky.

[Dan]

I've got far too many tools

Man-up lad!

You can NEVER have too many tools, surely you know that? :D

Not having a particular tool is an excuse to go out and buy one, not go and cadge one off someone else!!!

[Dave20046]

I know but I'm skint this month, drunk purchases, various fines. Think I should increase my tool budget next month :P

[Dr T]

Get yourself one of these. They're available from Halfords or other motor stores, or online. You'll never have a problem again with stubborn filters. Alternatively, I've got a pair of cheap rubber-strap wrenches which cost me about two quid from Aldi, and they're excellent at removing filters as well when there's tighter spaces to get into.
http://www.renault4.co.uk/technical/mini-oil-change-tools.jpg

I've got this one, good tool but not great if that last person to fit the oil filter thinks it was getting fitted to the outside of the space shuttle.

Borrowed on of these. Works a treat.

3747

[Dan]

I've got this one, good tool but not great if that last person to fit the oil filter thinks it was getting fitted to the outside of the space shuttle.

Borrowed on of these. Works a treat.

3747

A good trick with the metal strap job which I've not had to employ yet, but have seen done, is to run a thin bead of silicone bathroom sealant or similar round the fixed part and top inside edge of the strap. When you then use it on extra-tight filters it will compress and grip even the tightest gorilla-fisted mechanic's filters.

[Alpinestarhero]

Not having a particular tool is an excuse to go out and buy one, not go and cadge one off someone else!!!

definatly; I need a kit to make / extend threads on bolts and some long-nosed pliars and a torque wrench.

Thats right

i NEED it

[Dave20046]

Borrowed on of these. Works a treat.

3747
Yeah they work pretty well, and are universal (well unless you get a bike with a foot wide filter:rolleyes:)

[tonyk]

do any one add slick 50 to their oil??????????
err i do..
does any one else ?

[antilochus]

How tight was your oil filter? I wrecked mine, I had to chisel it off at the rim it was that tight to get off.
I tightened it 1 turn after seal touch, not 2 as recommended!!!

The filter was not all that tight - I unscrewed it using some Halfords Oil Filter pliers (borrowed from a mate :D). It was last changed by a dealer and glad they did not over-tighten it.

I hand tightened the new filter and turned it 1 turn using the pliers - have been checking for leaks for the last couple of days and still no sign so it is tight enough.

Re: taking the fairing off - I'm glad I did as it made it MUCH easier to see the filter and sump plug. Also good for future ref when cleaning as there was a load of crap on the inside that probably should be cleaned off :rolleyes:

[Dan]

do any one add slick 50 to their oil??????????
err i do..
does any one else ?

Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, personally. I've read way too much about Teflon/PTFE additives to oil to want to add any.

Plus it's expensive for what it is, and there's no guarantee it really does anything.

[Dan]

The filter was not all that tight - I unscrewed it using some Halfords Oil Filter pliers (borrowed from a mate :D). It was last changed by a dealer and glad they did not over-tighten it.

I hand tightened the new filter and turned it 1 turn using the pliers - have been checking for leaks for the last couple of days and still no sign so it is tight enough.

Re: taking the fairing off - I'm glad I did as it made it MUCH easier to see the filter and sump plug. Also good for future ref when cleaning as there was a load of crap on the inside that probably should be cleaned off :rolleyes:

Only ever do up an oil filter by hand. It doesn't need to be any tighter than you can get it that way.