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DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 09:58 PM
Did anyone see grand designs tonight? The guy put a real 916 on his wall in the living room. Looked brilliant! :p
We were watching it, but the phone rang just before that bit - so had to turn the goggle box down. Did he say why? Or was it just because he could?
Waste of a bike me thinks.
petevtwin650
08-04-09, 10:04 PM
Did anyone see grand designs tonight? The guy put a real 916 on his wall in the living room. Looked brilliant! :p
They look brilliant anywhere:smt007.
Bet the headlights followed you around the room too. :cool:
DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 10:05 PM
We were watching it, but the phone rang just before that bit - so had to turn the goggle box down. Did he say why? Or was it just because he could?
Waste of a bike me thinks.
He said it was an iconic bike or something. And said he had another bike that he was going to put up as well but the wife said no
fizzwheel
08-04-09, 10:06 PM
Meh what a waste of a perfectly good bike, It should be on the road being ridden not hung up on the sodding wall.
petevtwin650
08-04-09, 10:10 PM
Meh what a waste of a perfectly good bike, It should be on the road being ridden not hung up on the sodding wall.
Cough* Liz's bike *cough :p
fizzwheel
08-04-09, 10:12 PM
Good point well made, funds dicated it sat in the garage for a while though, still better in there than put on the wall though...
Damn, i missed it tonight. We usually see it too.
Come on guys, you'd all have a bike on the wall if you could get away with it. :p
Anyways, it's not dipped in formaldehyde. If he feels like going for a blast, just wheel it out the patio doors. :D
DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 10:13 PM
Meh what a waste of a perfectly good bike, It should be on the road being ridden not hung up on the sodding wall.
That's what Kevin McCloud said
Don't people usually hang hunting trophies on the wall? :shock:
Has he got the rider hanging up on another wall somewhere?
he had to put it over the fire to keep it dry.It was the only way to make sure it goes
fizzwheel
08-04-09, 10:23 PM
Has he got the rider hanging up on another wall somewhere?
So thats what you do with Pete to make sure he doesnt put Diesel in it again...
I think that they should clearly give me the bike... and in return I would give them a nice shiny picture of the bike for the wall!!
svdemon
08-04-09, 10:42 PM
What channel was it on? I'd like to see this
DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 10:43 PM
What channel was it on? I'd like to see this
Channel 4
svdemon
08-04-09, 10:58 PM
What were the names of the people on the show? The channel 4 catch up only has repeats of more4 shows!
svdemon
08-04-09, 10:59 PM
Found a pic
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/brighton-modern-mansion-photo-gallery-09-04-08_p_17.html
DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 11:00 PM
What were the names of the people on the show? The channel 4 catch up only has repeats of more4 shows!
You mean the guy that was building the house? No idea
Kevin McCloud is the presenter
DarrenSV650S
08-04-09, 11:00 PM
Found a pic
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/brighton-modern-mansion-photo-gallery-09-04-08_p_17.html
That's the one
punyXpress
08-04-09, 11:00 PM
How long ago was it recorded ?
Many felt that such chav-like excessive consumption was a sign of problems to come. And how they DID come!
As previously said, such things belong on the road or circuit, not the wall.
So thats what you do with Pete to make sure he doesnt put Diesel in it again...
You know me so well, Fizz!
;)
Supervox
09-04-09, 06:34 AM
I like it !!
If I had the space & money I'd have a 916 as a coffee table - far more practical than trying to keep the bl**dy thing running !! :p
And the chap is correct - the 916 is an iconic motorcycle - even someone like me who loathes D*c*t* with a passion can't deny that.
Waste of a bike me thinks.
Totally agree....mind you it is a duke so it was probably broken and therefore non-moving anyways!
squirrel_hunter
09-04-09, 09:35 AM
I cryed a little when I saw the pic. What a waste.
Dappa D
09-04-09, 09:42 AM
i saw it..almost fell off the sofa!...the blokes banging on about financial hardship and how he wouldnt do it again and there he is with a duc on the wall.....and one that looked like it had never been ridden no less.....aww bless the obviously broke fella
Found a pic
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/brighton-modern-mansion-photo-gallery-09-04-08_p_17.html
... Is the 50" tv on the other wall then?...
yorkie_chris
09-04-09, 10:29 AM
I want a V8 coffee table...
Meh what a waste of a perfectly good bike, It should be on the road being ridden not hung up on the sodding wall.
I never get these comments, its a waste blah blah blah.
Its a peice of metal, of which there are thousands in the world.
Whats to say he hasn't got another one for riding? He's using it as art so whats the issue?
I never get these comments, they are silly. He has paid for it, he'll do what he wants with it.
Its not like its an ouber rare model with only 10 made or something :lol:
Found a pic
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/brighton-modern-mansion-photo-gallery-09-04-08_p_17.html
Imagines a Benelli one side, and a Bimota on the other side, with Italian flag plainted over the 3 walls.....
then on the opposite wall, a tribute to Jap crap.
then on another wall....... :lol:
fizzwheel
09-04-09, 11:21 AM
I never get these comments, they are silly. He has paid for it, he'll do what he wants with it.
True, just seems to me to be a complete waste. If it were my money it would be being ridden thats what it was made for that was its original purpose. Part of its beauty is its function, i.e. how it feels to ride and enjoy the feeling you get from riding.
But its not a waste.
OK so its not being ridden, but is a waste?????
He gets to see something visually that he likes every single day sitting on the wall. Its decor, its art...... So its not being ridden... Is it any different from a Millionaire with untold amounts of supercars that never get driven, but also get sat in a garage and hardly ever looked at?
Not a waste, his money his choice. As I say, its not like its rare or something :lol: Not my choice, but if I had loads of cash, i'd damn well do it too in one of my motorsport themed rooms. (except i'd have real ones to ride in the garage too).
missyburd
09-04-09, 12:10 PM
Hmm I'd rather have a go at doing a life size sketch or something crafty and stick that on the wall than that heavy thing! I'd be far too busy worrying about it falling down and smashing to bits.
Maybe he actually doesn't have much cash and as he can't afford to ride it he'd rather just look at it lol! Maybe it's got a completely knackered engine but holds much sentimental value and so he feels the need to display it in that way. Either way it's his choice, could be worse things on walls in living rooms, like stags' heads :rolleyes:
But its not a waste.
OK so its not being ridden, but is a waste?????
He gets to see something visually that he likes every single day sitting on the wall. Its decor, its art...... So its not being ridden... Is it any different from a Millionaire with untold amounts of supercars that never get driven, but also get sat in a garage and hardly ever looked at?
Not a waste, his money his choice. As I say, its not like its rare or something :lol: Not my choice, but if I had loads of cash, i'd damn well do it too in one of my motorsport themed rooms. (except i'd have real ones to ride in the garage too).
Totally agree. The fella did say he had another anyway. Its a piece of art, the bike was mint, displaying it just means it will be preserved that way & he can appreciate it every day in the comfort of his living room :thumleft:
vardypeeps
09-04-09, 12:25 PM
It was in perfect condition just hung there. If he aint going to use it and has all that money I can take it off his hands for free. Where were they building that house again with it sat right in front of the glass windows he paid £150,000 for?
lol
It looked like it had just come out of the factory crate, I imagine it's never been prep'd to be ridden, no coolant fuel or oil
I too thought it's a shame but as has been said its his money.
It looked like it had just come out of the factory crate, I imagine it's never been prep'd to be ridden, no coolant fuel or oil
.
and it had still broken down four times, and numorous bits fallen off (and filled with deisel);)
DarrenSV650S
09-04-09, 01:19 PM
Didn't it have aftermarket cans on it?
Didn't it have aftermarket cans on it?
iirc: Yup.
Alpinestarhero
09-04-09, 01:54 PM
Surely it would be better on the road?
I dont get buying vehicles for just sticking in the living room and looking at....
missyburd
09-04-09, 01:56 PM
Surely it would be better on the road?
I dont get buying vehicles for just sticking in the living room and looking at....
Nah, vehicles I can understand, all that techinical stuff to drool over and not worry about it working after being stood...stag's heads and stuffed animals I don't get. Why have that mounted on the wall when surely a beautiful photograph would do it far more justice!?
Alpinestarhero
09-04-09, 01:58 PM
but its a mechanical object, ment for use....ducati design their engines to have the living hell thrashed out of them. Sort of common knowledge that those dukes that get used, are the ones that are most reliable
pah
maybe im just jelous
missyburd
09-04-09, 02:00 PM
Well it would make more sense if the duke was stood on the floor for the fella to take to bits when he felt like having a tinker but who knows. Must just be about impressing people with wealth and such things...wouldn't impress me though, I'd be telling him to take it down and let me play!
Alpinestarhero
09-04-09, 02:10 PM
i wouldnt even have a duke. i'd have an RC30. with fluids in and ready to riiiddddeee
Alpinestarhero
09-04-09, 02:11 PM
Don't people usually hang hunting trophies on the wall? :shock:
Has he got the rider hanging up on another wall somewhere?
SO he finally caught and shot the lesser spotted but big mouthed Carl Fogarty
awesome
Come on, theres probably hundreds of Ducatis sitting in garages that havent moved in years! Hang it on a wall.
punyXpress
09-04-09, 02:29 PM
I want a V8 coffee table...
Isn't that a V8 wine rack ?
Can do you the base of a Ferrari F1 rear wheel coffee table + 2 fronts as stools.
Zen Beetle
09-04-09, 04:10 PM
The beauty of an object is derived from its function. 'Form Follows Function', this has been the tenant of modern design. By hanging the Ducati on the wall, the Ducati ceases being a designed and functional marvel of engineering and becomes a purely decorative object. This is typical of the confused post-modern fad for decoration over function.
SoulKiss
09-04-09, 04:26 PM
The beauty of an object is derived from its function. 'Form Follows Function', this has been the tenant of modern design. By hanging the Ducati on the wall, the Ducati ceases being a designed and functional marvel of engineering and becomes a purely decorative object. This is typical of the confused post-modern fad for decoration over function.
Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Llewelyn-Bowen).................... - is that you?
Zen Beetle
09-04-09, 04:52 PM
Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen! I've been called worse things before. The only thing we have in common is that we're both products of an art education and are both designers - albeit of a different kind. Oh, and we both like pink.
fizzwheel
09-04-09, 06:35 PM
The beauty of an object is derived from its function. 'Form Follows Function', this has been the tenant of modern design. By hanging the Ducati on the wall, the Ducati ceases being a designed and functional marvel of engineering and becomes a purely decorative object. This is typical of the confused post-modern fad for decoration over function.
Thats what I was getting at earlier on, but I didnt put it as well as you just did :D
Supervox
09-04-09, 08:09 PM
SO he finally caught and shot the lesser spotted but big mouthed Carl Fogarty
awesome
What a wonderful idea - any chance we could make it a one-off Olympic sport in 2012 ?
Just set him loose at the start of the games - and make all the entrants wait 3 hrs before beginning the hunt.
:smt066
I'm with Daimo on this one.
When bike designers design a bike one, of the things they aim to do is make the bike visually appealing, so by being hung on the wall for people to see & appreciate it is serving one of its functions.
And what about bike museums, all those bikes (including modern ones) just sitting there not being ridden & I think the vast majority of people think that they're cool places.
My old man has a bike that my Grandad restored in his hall & it's my favourite thing about the house.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/gazman_07/IMG_0443-1.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/gazman_07/IMG_0442.jpg
Zen Beetle
09-04-09, 08:50 PM
"When bike designers design a bike one, of the things they aim to do is make the bike visually appealing".
OK, the next thing to ask yourself is in what ways is the Ducati visually appealing? Make a list and we'll take it from there.
I cant see a problem, he's got loads of dosh, he could buy a host of 916's and have one on every wall in the house.
To be fair, a lot of bikes (sportsbikes in particular) could be considered a waste. There are hundreds of examples of 5-6 year old bikes with less than 3000 miles on the clock.
Quiff Wichard
09-04-09, 09:45 PM
me recorded that - somewhere on my ard drive I think.. I may play it and then record it on me camera to show those who missed it..
"When bike designers design a bike one, of the things they aim to do is make the bike visually appealing".
OK, the next thing to ask yourself is in what ways is the Ducati visually appealing? Make a list and we'll take it from there.
As I’m sure you’re aware, that question is very subjective. Different people find different things visually appealing, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder & all that. :D
I’m not particularly enamored by the looks of the 916, however I do like the look of the single sided swing arm & underseat exhausts.
yorkie_chris
10-04-09, 11:56 AM
I’m not particularly enamored by the looks of the 916, however I do like the look of the single sided swing arm & underseat exhausts.
You want one of these then:
http://www.t5net.de/tips/auspuff/595-wunoff.jpg
Miss Alpinestarhero
10-04-09, 12:20 PM
Each to their own...
If he wants to hang a bike on his wall and look at it rather than ride it then fair enough. Although it is a waste of a bike, its not really much different to seeing all the bikes and cars and planes in a museum
Me? Id rather ride the bike and use it! :D
Zen Beetle
10-04-09, 12:49 PM
Design of the Ducati 916 was a balance between function and form: Lets take the two things Gazman mentions as an example:
The single-sided swingarm is beautiful, but designed to make wheel changes faster during races.
The underseat exhausts improve aerodynamic performance, and give very clean lines.
The beauty of both the single-sided swingarm and the underseat exhausts are therefore derived from how effectively they fulfill their purpose. Good design by its very nature is beautiful. The great Ducati designers like Fabio Taglioni and Massimo Tamburini were well aware of the interconnection between beauty and function. It’s this fundamental link between aesthetics and design that is particularly prevalent in Italian design. It's what makes Italian motorbikes synonymous to works of art and it’s a tradition that's been passed down to designers from the Renaissance.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that an object has to be functional in order to be beautiful. Such a narrow point of view would not be taking into account the important contribution that art and/or decoration make to our psychological and aesthetic sensibilities. Take the word functional out of the equation and I agree with you that beauty does become subjective. However, and lets be clear about this, once a work of art or design is taken out of its context and placed within an altogether different, alien context to which it was originally intended, its very meaning and reason for being changes. Putting a Ducati on a wall is like caging a bird. True, you can still appreciate its beauty. But ohhh, give the bird its freedom and let it fly and sing and then tell me which is the sweeter!
yorkie_chris
10-04-09, 12:52 PM
Very poetic, but they're more form than function. If they'd have been paying attention they might not have spent so long on making the lines of the fairing flow to perfectly to the eye, and a little more on the electrical system.
You want one of these then:
http://www.t5net.de/tips/auspuff/595-wunoff.jpg
I've got one :P :
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v234/67/122/621884134/n621884134_572245_8863.jpg
I've also seen someone put a BMW bike of some sort in their apartment. I can't find the link, but it it was posted on the forum several years ago.
It showed them taking it up in a lift upright, and then showed the bike on display in the place.
yorkie_chris
10-04-09, 12:59 PM
Lovely :cool:
dizzyblonde
10-04-09, 01:00 PM
Don't watch Grand designs, unless its some eco house built out of straw or something thats restored in deepest France or theres nowt on telly
is this what your all waffling about?
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/images/mb/Channel4/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/s7-e10-brighton/photo-gallery/17-living-room-lg--gt_full_width_landscape.jpg
Miss Alpinestarhero
10-04-09, 01:02 PM
Don't watch Grand designs, unless its some eco house built out of straw or something thats restored in deepest France or theres nowt on telly
is this what your all waffling about?
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/images/mb/Channel4/4homes/on-tv/grand-designs/episode-guides/s7-e10-brighton/photo-gallery/17-living-room-lg--gt_full_width_landscape.jpg
Duno
But if that is indeed what we're talking about then TBH, I expected something better for a grand designs project. Those sofas look awful and the room looks horribly bare.
Ah ha! Found the link. BMW K1200S as a sculpture (http://www.bmwk1200s.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1874)
dizzyblonde
10-04-09, 01:03 PM
I hope it don't fall on his head....we all know what modern house building is like these days:rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
10-04-09, 01:13 PM
Does he know it's not level?
dizzyblonde
10-04-09, 01:16 PM
Does he know it's not level?
well I didn't want to say:-$
missyburd
10-04-09, 01:19 PM
Does he know it's not level?
Duh it's doing a wheelie :rolleyes:
dizzyblonde
10-04-09, 01:22 PM
saying that I think he was 'had' on the fireplace, somebody forgot to put it in!
petevtwin650
11-04-09, 04:42 PM
Went into a Hein Gericke today to purchase some of their cheap oil and saw this. It's a mint Foggy Rep with 56 miles on it. Having looked closely at it I have to say that mileage looks genuine. It's owned by a guy who doesn't intend to sell it, and asked if he could keep it in the shop rather than have his daughter use it as a climbing frame at home :smt009
DarrenSV650S
11-04-09, 06:05 PM
That really is pointless
punyXpress
11-04-09, 07:54 PM
So you used it as a climbing frame then, Pete ?
Quiff Wichard
14-04-09, 01:31 PM
me just watched this on the hard drive recorder.. and recorded the ducati on the wall bit on my mobile.
anyone wanna see it?
need me post it up..?
cos me a busy boy and unless you interested I shant take the time..
lots of love Q x
...asked if he could keep it in the shop rather than have his daughter use it as a climbing frame at home :smt009
Offer him a fiver for it Pete and tell him you'll give it the riding treatment it deserves :grin:
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