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madness
23-04-09, 11:31 AM
I've just had my lunch in our works canteen and was amazed to find out that one of our apprentices didn't know that beef came from a cow! The other month I was equally amazed when none of our apprentices knew the difference between the radius, circumferance and diameter of a circle. It makes me wonder what kids are being taught at school. They seen to know very little general knowledge.

Has anyone else be amazed by the lack of knowledge of youngsters (that makes me sound really old!) these days?

Holdup
23-04-09, 11:33 AM
the radius, circumferance and diameter of a circle.

The wha? :confused:

keithd
23-04-09, 11:34 AM
they obviously dodnt teach speeling either...

Holdup
23-04-09, 11:35 AM
they obviously dodnt teach speeling either...

:rolleyes: notes your mistake as well

plowsie
23-04-09, 11:36 AM
Got beef bruv av ya? Get my mandem down ere!

MiniMatt
23-04-09, 11:37 AM
Nah kids are fine. I did a network security audit for most of the schools (primary and secondary) in the LEA about three years back. Went in thinking "I've been doing this job for fifteen years, no way are the little feckers going to break through that". Was instantly re-educated in just how cunning, intelligent, logical and educated 12 year olds are when motivated by the prospect of getting pictures of naked people through the proxies and crashing the core switch stack :D

keithd
23-04-09, 11:37 AM
:rolleyes: notes your mistake as well
the irony was lost on you then....:rolleyes:

plowsie
23-04-09, 11:37 AM
:rolleyes: notes your mistake as well
Noted yours too ;) Keith made two #-o :rolleyes:

Venom
23-04-09, 11:38 AM
The wha? :confused:
radius = distance from centre of circle to outer edge.
diameter = 2 x radius, the distance from one side to the other side through the centre.
circumference = (Pi)r² = the distance of the outer edge round the circle


:rolleyes:

Holdup
23-04-09, 11:40 AM
Noted yours too ;) Keith made two #-o :rolleyes:

mine was on purpose :) Whats Keiths second mistake?

EDIT: spotted it now

sinbad
23-04-09, 11:41 AM
radius = distance from centre of circle to outer edge.
diameter = 2 x radius, the distance from one side to the other side through the centre.
circumference = (Pi)r² = the distance of the outer edge round the circle


:rolleyes:

What does distance mean?

Holdup
23-04-09, 11:42 AM
radius = distance from centre of circle to outer edge.
diameter = 2 x radius, the distance from one side to the other side through the centre.
circumference = (Pi)r² = the distance of the outer edge round the circle


:rolleyes:

I got re taught about it in "Key skills adult numeracy" at college 2 months ago and as soon as i walked out that class, gone, but i got my level 2 pass on the test (just about) so thats all that matters :D

Ed
23-04-09, 11:43 AM
radius = distance from centre of circle to outer edge.
diameter = 2 x radius, the distance from one side to the other side through the centre.
circumference = (Pi)r² = the distance of the outer edge round the circle


:rolleyes:

I do believe that one of your formulae is wrong...

The circumference is 2(Pi)r, the area of the circle is (Pi)r2 (that's squared).

plowsie
23-04-09, 11:44 AM
mine was on purpose :) Whats Keiths second mistake?

EDIT: spotted it now
Thats what I meant, you only spotted one of Keiths :smt106

Holdup
23-04-09, 11:46 AM
Thats what I meant, you only spotted one of Keiths :smt106

;-)

timwilky
23-04-09, 11:47 AM
radius = distance from centre of circle to outer edge.
diameter = 2 x radius, the distance from one side to the other side through the centre.
circumference = (Pi)r² = the distance of the outer edge round the circle


:rolleyes:


no, 2 out of 3 there.

circumference formulae
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/c/2/d/c2dac36691807705877c30a9c04f4f1f.pngyou gave the formulae for the area of a circle. Back to school for you

edit, whoops Ed got in before me

Miss Alpinestarhero
23-04-09, 11:53 AM
:shock: not knowing that beef comes from a cow is rather shocking :lol:

I knew someone who was really confused at why sheep didnt shrink when it rains :rolleyes: (yes really!).

Maria

TonyS
23-04-09, 11:53 AM
We had a girl start working in our office with 4 A's at A-Level, we thought she'd be really bright, but she didn't understand the concept of length, width, height for measuring a rectangular box and she thought Dublin was in the UK!

Sometimes I wonder whether all you have to do nowadays is spell your name correctly on the exam paper to get an A!

timwilky
23-04-09, 11:54 AM
Incidentally, back in 1975 when I sat my apprenticeship exam for Leyland Trucks, one of the questions was to calculate the circumference of a circle. It was therefore assumed back then that the average 16 year old would know how to do this.

Venom
23-04-09, 11:58 AM
I do believe that one of your formulae is wrong...

The circumference is 2(Pi)r, the area of the circle is (Pi)r2 (that's squared).

I realised that as I pressed post but I was called away from the computer so couldn't change it.

Where's me dunce hat?

Lissa
23-04-09, 11:59 AM
Many, many years ago I worked at the National Agricultural Centre in Stoneleigh. I did a stint on the Children's Farm area when they were short staffed, which was open for school trips to visit to let kids see animals up close. I used to love walking into the pen of the White Park bull we had there wearing a red t shirt when inner city kids were visiting. The sharp intakes of breath as they all waited for me to get gored were hilarious. :D

Woz
23-04-09, 12:06 PM
I was giving a motorway lesson a couple of weeks ago. We were heading south on the M6 and I said that at the next junction we needed to head east. She had absolutely no clue which way to go.

dirtsk8
23-04-09, 12:19 PM
When my son was 3 he said "Do hens lay eggs and pigs lay sausages, Dad?"

True. :)

fenjer
23-04-09, 12:20 PM
I was giving a motorway lesson a couple of weeks ago. We were heading south on the M6 and I said that at the next junction we needed to head east. She had absolutely no clue which way to go.

Neither would I... I'd expect left or right as directions, unless I had a map with me, then i could work out East and west.

Some of the nursery children my wee one goes to always answer with "Asda" when asked the source of any food product.

Eggs? Asda
Milk? Asda

But what animal do they come from?

A truck brings them to asda.

This is what comes from stupid giant supermarkets, and not proper butchers/greengrocers etc...

:smt107

Oh - and I should add, my lecturers at university were all appalled when I told them I had no idea how to do long division. I wasn't taught it in school, we were taught to use calculators. Basic arithmetic yes, but long division and multiplication always on a calculator.

plowsie
23-04-09, 12:20 PM
Neither would I... I'd expect left or right as directions, unless I had a map with me, then i could work out East and west.
Your heading South.... :smt011

fenjer
23-04-09, 12:23 PM
Your heading South.... :smt011

uh huh, but what if the next junction leads on to a fly-over or underpass... (i dont know the M6 well at all...) or if there is a round about at the top, "due east" might not be left.

Venom
23-04-09, 12:24 PM
Your heading South.... :smt011

Plus the sliproad off is always on the left on the motorway.... :roll:

fenjer
23-04-09, 12:26 PM
Yes - I am aware of that thank you :p

timwilky
23-04-09, 12:29 PM
NI was giving a motorway lesson a couple of weeks ago. We were heading south on the M6 and I said that at the next junction we needed to head east. She had absolutely no clue which way to go.

A few years ago, my wife broke down on the M6 whilst on an exit slip road. When asked by the AA, was she on the North or South bound exit she said North.

She phoned me to proudly tell me she had called the AA, when I told her that she must be on the southbound as she was on her way home. She replied, it must be North as we live "up North". She had no idea the North, South, east, west were directions and thought they were places.

Salford girls you cannot beat them (unfortunately)

Venom
23-04-09, 12:34 PM
Yes - I am aware of that thank you :p

Sorry, I wasn't making fun of you. I was just stating an obvious fact that doesn't help like Plowsie did.

Like you mentioned, you can't assume East or West unless you know the road signs say the direction or which direction the towns lie.

fenjer
23-04-09, 12:39 PM
Sorry, I wasn't making fun of you. I was just stating an obvious fact that doesn't help like Plowsie did.

Like you mentioned, you can't assume East or West unless you know the road signs say the direction or which direction the towns lie.


Thats what I was trying to get at in my first post - obviously it didnt come across that way...;)

try spaghetti junction, yeah sure "East" is easy to figure out there...NOT
the M8 in Glasgow isn't much better. Anyway...

back to the topic in hand lol

Woz
23-04-09, 12:43 PM
Like you mentioned, you can't assume East or West unless you know the road signs say the direction or which direction the towns lie.

My point was that if you are heading (roughly) south, then east is left and west is right. For about a mile and a half, I tried to pry this information out of her but to no avail. In the end, I had to resort to telling her to turn left.

TazDaz
23-04-09, 01:02 PM
There is a wide margin of intelligence between people of any age...not limited to apprentices or younger people!

I left school four years ago and I did know and still do know all of the things mentioned in the original post. However, other people within my year at school, the under-achievers so to speak, didn't know their butt from their elbow so it is not exactly suprising that some apprentices don't know what the definition of radius is. It's all about the calibre of the specimen if you get what I mean! ;)

Quedos
23-04-09, 01:17 PM
Plus the sliproad off is always on the left on the motorway.... :roll:

unless your on the M8 heading westbound where if you want to head Northwest (NNW)to Loch Lomond you take the left exit slip whereas head back southerly into town you take the right slip - it gets really confusing and could only happen here:drink:

Paul the 6th
23-04-09, 02:09 PM
Neither would I... I'd expect left or right as directions, unless I had a map with me, then i could work out East and west.

Some of the nursery children my wee one goes to always answer with "Asda" when asked the source of any food product.

Eggs? Asda
Milk? Asda

But what animal do they come from?

A truck brings them to asda.

This is what comes from stupid giant supermarkets, and not proper butchers/greengrocers etc...

:smt107




they have found scientific proof from the cavemen that foodstuffs have always come from the supermarkets
http://traumwerk.stanford.edu/archaeolog/banksy2.jpg


and many tribes in developing countries still hunt the old fashioned way
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/246304375_77a34a1d9a.jpg?v=0

(both banksy :))

hovis
23-04-09, 02:12 PM
I've just had my lunch in our works canteen and was amazed to find out that one of our apprentices didn't know that beef came from a cow!

your beef probably didnt come from a cow

;)

MCN_LiamM
23-04-09, 03:23 PM
When I was at college there was a lass who though that countries floated. As oppose to the Earth being a big ball of dirt she assumed somehow that it was a ball of water with islands floating on it.

She thought she could swim under England.

fenjer
23-04-09, 03:43 PM
unless your on the M8 heading westbound where if you want to head Northwest (NNW)to Loch Lomond you take the left exit slip whereas head back southerly into town you take the right slip - it gets really confusing and could only happen here:drink:
You know I nearly wrote "you've not been on the M8 have you?" in an earlier post... I should have done... lol :winner:

Dicky Ticker
23-04-09, 04:00 PM
The one that gets me is people working on tills
Bill comes to £8:47 so you give them £10:47 expecting £2:00 change
they just seem completely bamboozled,giving you the change from £10:00 as per the register on the till and your 0:47p back and when you ask why they didn't give you £2:00 instead of all the change :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused:
Makes me wonder how the modern generation would have coped with £.s.d.

Woz
23-04-09, 04:04 PM
And bar staff who find that the time it takes to pull two pints isn't long enough to work out the price in their head.

gettin2dizzy
23-04-09, 04:18 PM
Hehe. How about this, a girl (friend of my sisters) who put jam on her toast and then proceeded to eat it upside down.
When asked why, she said:
"Don't you have to eat it like that? Isn't it your tongue the bit that tastes?!"
:lol:

Biker Biggles
23-04-09, 04:24 PM
your beef probably didnt come from a cow

;)


Correct.Most beef comes from bulls or bullocks:salut:


I said bullocks OK?:D

Paul the 6th
23-04-09, 04:49 PM
Hehe. How about this, a girl (friend of my sisters) who put jam on her toast and then proceeded to eat it upside down.
When asked why, she said:
"Don't you have to eat it like that? Isn't it your tongue the bit that tastes?!"
:lol:

In all honesty, I eat various foods the other way around/upside down...

Pizza, toast, even some chocolate bars taste better upside down. I have to maintain my slender figure though so I stick with healthier upside down foods

gettin2dizzy
23-04-09, 04:53 PM
In all honesty, I eat various foods the other way around/upside down...

Pizza, toast, even some chocolate bars taste better upside down. I have to maintain my slender figure though so I stick with healthier upside down foods
You my friend, are not putting enough on your pizzas!

She also said 'I want to go to skiing'
My sister 'You want to GO TO skiing?! You know what skiing is?'
Daft girl 'A place in France'

-My sister shows her a youtube video of people skiing -

Daft Girl 'What the hell is that??'

Ed
23-04-09, 05:29 PM
try spaghetti junction, yeah sure "East" is easy to figure out there...NOT
the M8 in Glasgow isn't much better. Anyway...

back to the topic in hand lol

Everyone knows that spaghetti junction is in Italy:confused:

Miss Alpinestarhero
24-04-09, 01:47 PM
You my friend, are not putting enough on your pizzas!

She also said 'I want to go to skiing'
My sister 'You want to GO TO skiing?! You know what skiing is?'
Daft girl 'A place in France'

-My sister shows her a youtube video of people skiing -

Daft Girl 'What the hell is that??'


:laughat::laughat:

ogden
24-04-09, 04:36 PM
Quotes from my gf:

"I didn't know the Romans came from Rome"
"250,000, that's not a quarter of a million, is it?"
"You know the channel tunnel, does it go under the water? And if I look out the window, will I be able to see the fishies?"
"Salmon and lobster aren't seafood, are they?"

and many, many more.

gettin2dizzy
24-04-09, 05:17 PM
Quotes from my gf:

"I didn't know the Romans came from Rome"
"250,000, that's not a quarter of a million, is it?"
"You know the channel tunnel, does it go under the water? And if I look out the window, will I be able to see the fishies?"
"Salmon and lobster aren't seafood, are they?"

and many, many more.
:lol:

You've just got to love them

Dave20046
24-04-09, 06:38 PM
An ex once asked me what a haggis was so I told her it was a little animal in scotland that lived on mountains but had two legs shorter than the others so it can stand on the steep mountain but subsequently ("what does that mean?") can only run round clockw... to the right so they can only go up mountains and have to get mountain rescue out to get them to the bottom.
(Its an old gag though)
She also asked me various other things like what's the IRA and you just couldn't watch tv with her for having to explain every word.

gettin2dizzy
24-04-09, 07:14 PM
My favourite (although not mine)
"was middle earth before or after the dinosaurs..?"


Although I had a gf who thought the X files was a documentary (she loved the program), and that an omelette was a 'fancy painting'.

I pick them well ;)

yorkie_chris
24-04-09, 07:32 PM
We had a girl start working in our office with 4 A's at A-Level, we thought she'd be really bright, but she didn't understand the concept of length, width, height for measuring a rectangular box and she thought Dublin was in the UK!

Sometimes I wonder whether all you have to do nowadays is spell your name correctly on the exam paper to get an A!

No, it requires having no life for a while. The exams aren't easy, they just don't require any common sense.

gettin2dizzy
24-04-09, 07:37 PM
And an 'A' means nothing. The subject is far more important than the grade.

Dave20046
24-04-09, 07:49 PM
they just don't require any common sense.
I should have no problems then :mrgreen:

Dave20046
24-04-09, 07:52 PM
Although I had a gf who thought the X files was a documentary (she loved the program),
I would have got my coat at that


All this said, I did have to ask a lass what a word meant during a serious conversation (IIRC) the other week. I kicked myself extra for it because I knew in the back of my mind it just wouldn't click when she said it :rolleyes:

:nemo:

El Saxo
24-04-09, 09:38 PM
I also work with a guy who didnt know where beef came from. Best bit was, when we told him it came from cows, he came back with 'Yeah right, I'm not stupid you know, milk comes from cows, not beef' :shock:

He also didn't know hamburgers were made from beef. When we asked him where he thought hamburgers came from the reply was 'France'. :roll:

gettin2dizzy
24-04-09, 09:53 PM
I also work with a guy who didnt know where beef came from. Best bit was, when we told him it came from cows, he came back with 'Yeah right, I'm not stupid you know, milk comes from cows, not beef' :shock:

He also didn't know hamburgers were made from beef. When we asked him where he thought hamburgers came from the reply was 'France'. :roll:
Hehehehe. Got to love morons :lol:

ogden
25-04-09, 12:06 PM
I'm sure he's not a moron, just in touch with his female side.