View Full Version : Another dilemma you'd wish you didn't have....
-Ralph-
28-04-09, 07:13 PM
My cousins have been on a camping trip and posted the photos on a social networking site. I don't have any details of where they went or which adults accompanied them, but they stayed together in a separate tent, 3 x 15 yr old and 1 x 13yr old, two of them my cousins.
Pictures show them drinking, big deal so did I at 15, but by the end of it the 13 year old in particular hasn't got a working muscle left in her face.
I'm worried she'll do some proper damage at that age and at the least end up getting her stomach pumped.
Should I phone my Aunt and Uncle or mind my own business? I have told my Aunt before to ensure she is always on thier friend list and keep an eye on the photo albums, but she doesn't seem to do it. If I phone the girls will probably never speak to me again, if I don't and something happens to the 13yr old and my uncle finds out I knew she out drinking.....
She spend a lot of time with her older sister and her friends and the 13yr old is a right rebel, I suspect that this is not a one off occasion. I also suspect on other occasions there will be boys in the group.
She's 13. I would inform the parents. I would have wanted to know if my daughter was putting herself into that kind of situation at that age.
Dave20046
28-04-09, 07:20 PM
It's not up to the forum mate, your own call.
Maybe 13's a bit young but up to you.
gettin2dizzy
28-04-09, 07:34 PM
Just keep an eye out for her. It's as likely she did it becasue she's inexperienced at drinking, and likely to never do it again!
gruntygiggles
28-04-09, 07:44 PM
Your call Ralph as you'll know your aunt and uncle well enough to know if this is something that would want to be informed of. If she was my child, I would want to know. If you do tell your aunt, I am sure of you tell her your concerns, she'll agree not to tell your cousing that it was you that let her know.
Good luck mate, but none of us know your family, so it's one I think you'll have to decide for yourself I'm sorry!
shonadoll
28-04-09, 07:46 PM
I'd want to know, but it's hard to know without knowing the parents. I think you should tell em though.
kwak zzr
28-04-09, 07:46 PM
id say let the kids learn the hard way.
Owenski
28-04-09, 07:52 PM
depends on your relationship with teh rents. If your close to the aunt and uncle so their friends as well as family. Then I'd just say in a jokey manor 'seen what your xxxx has been upto on facebook bloody kids eh' keep it low key cos you dont want to interfear but id only do it once they all come back.
Milky Bar Kid
28-04-09, 08:10 PM
I echo Grunty's sentiments. have you tried talking to the girls yourself first?
My cousins have been on a camping trip and posted the photos on a social networking site. I don't have any details of where they went or which adults accompanied them, but they stayed together in a separate tent, 3 x 15 yr old and 1 x 13yr old, two of them my cousins.
Pictures show them drinking, big deal so did I at 15, but by the end of it the 13 year old in particular hasn't got a working muscle left in her face.
I'm worried she'll do some proper damage at that age and at the least end up getting her stomach pumped.
Should I phone my Aunt and Uncle or mind my own business? I have told my Aunt before to ensure she is always on thier friend list and keep an eye on the photo albums, but she doesn't seem to do it. If I phone the girls will probably never speak to me again, if I don't and something happens to the 13yr old and my uncle finds out I knew she out drinking.....
She spend a lot of time with her older sister and her friends and the 13yr old is a right rebel, I suspect that this is not a one off occasion. I also suspect on other occasions there will be boys in the group.
They're your cousins, not your kids. Rather than having a word with the parents, how about you approach the cousins one at a time and talk to them instead. They may well listen to you, but they won't listen to their parents no matter how they approach the subject.
The kids won't appreciate you going behind their back, and you're doing something positive rather than something that may get them in bother.
id say let the kids learn the hard way.
I'm with kwak on this one.
What can the parents really do to stop her doing it again? Not a lot really. If a kid wants to do something they will find a way to do it - I always did.
I admit I used to go down the fields when I was a nipper and got blitzed on a bottle of white lightening...probably wasn't much older than 13 at the time. Had such a rough time the next day I didn't bother drinking again till I was roughly 16 or so. Not done me any harm - although am I the best judge? :)
Think back to when you were that age...that's third year of senior school...bet you had got blitzed by that age. Most adults had done, but seem to forget when looking at the younger generation doing it now!
I haven't read the replies (purposefully).
Personally, if it was my child, aged 13 drinking until they're paralytic, in all honesty, if they told me they would be drinking in a tent, I'd probably buy them some drinks to take with them.
That stems from my upbringing, I was taught early on what the effects of alcohol were (by over indulging), and as a result, I rarely get drunk now & have never been interested in the kind of people that go out & get off their face every weekend.
Only you know how the parents would react (and I suspect it wouldn't be the way I would from the OP). If they're the opposite of me, talk to the girls. You'll get more respect that way.
seedy100
28-04-09, 09:03 PM
If I was the parent - I would want to know.
If I was the child - I would want my privacy respected.
If I was Ralph - I would wish I knew nothing!
I think, in the situation I would have a general chat with the kids about booze, without mentioning the pictures. I would then have a general chat about posting pictures of themselves on the internet. Then wait for the penny to drop.
yorkie_chris
28-04-09, 09:16 PM
At uni I saw the ones who had had strict upbringing with no boozing at all go out and get so blasted they were a liability to themselves.
Quite funny when there's some posh southerner tries to keep up with a Yorkshireman on a mission to throw a lot of bitter down his neck and ends up in a taxi home after only 5 pints or so... I digress...
Better that they learn early. And also learn not to be so stupid as to hang their dirty washing out on social networking sites!
Have a chat with them.
Id like to know why a 13 year old is out on a camping trip without any adults anyway. Shes 13, probably didnt take a lot to put her on the deck. A banging headache in the morning will be a learnt lesson. Personally id leave it.
yorkie_chris
28-04-09, 10:20 PM
What were you doing at 13?
-Ralph-
28-04-09, 11:13 PM
It's not up to the forum mate, your own call.
Maybe 13's a bit young but up to you.
Good luck mate, but none of us know your family, so it's one I think you'll have to decide for yourself I'm sorry!
Of course the forum can't decide, but having a range of third party opinions is helpful, and a poll is a good way to summarise those opinions at a glance, so thanks for the replies everyone.
They're your cousins, not your kids. Rather than having a word with the parents, how about you approach the cousins one at a time and talk to them instead.
Have tried that one before after seeing some camera phone photo/video of loutish behaviour (walking on bus stop roofs, playing with traffic, shouting in the street, etc). Soon after I was removed as a friend from their profiles. I picked them up on it and told them if I wasn't their friend anymore they could get stuffed next time they broke the computer and wanted me to fix it and I suppose they wouldn't be wanting anything on birthdays and christmas. I got added back in again. I'm not sure me talking to them in the past has done anything to stop them though, only makes them more careful not to get caught.
Think back to when you were that age...that's third year of senior school...bet you had got blitzed by that age. Most adults had done, but seem to forget when looking at the younger generation doing it now!
I had got blitzed by that age, but it was my father who got me blitzed to teach me a lesson! I was always allowed free access to alcohol at home from about that age onwards, so long as I didn't abuse the privilege. So I had the choice buying alcohol and spending my own paper round money, or enjoying a couple of free beers from the fridge watched quietly from the corner of my fathers eye. Come sixteen and looking old enough to get served, alcohol was nothing new, rebellious or exciting, so I didn't mix with the get ****ed every Friday crowd. Also I lived in the sticks and only had my motorbike for transport, so couldn't drink anyway.
Id like to know why a 13 year old is out on a camping trip without any adults anyway.
Read the initial post.
if i found out my cousins had been drinking.. i certainly would have NOT gone to my aunt/uncle and told them..
if they were a lot younger than me i would pull them aside and have a word..
by the sounds of it they were drinking to excess and could have easily got alcohol poisoning.. and being that young i bet none of them would have known..
your call though...
some camera phone photo/video of loutish behaviour (walking on bus stop roofs, playing with traffic, shouting in the street, etc).
I got up to far worse that that as a kid. The only difference is I didn't have a video camera in my hand.
Ralph, you stated that, as I posted, you were taught about alcohol early on. And you saw the benefit of it, by not being involved in the "lets get drunk to have a good time" crowd.
These kids were camping in a field & letting their hair down. Yes, they're under-age for alcohol consumption. But surely they're only doing what you did as a kid (maybe they've gone futher & gotten more drunk than you did, maybe not, I don't know). The difference is that you had your fathers' watchful eye.
Perhaps a better approach would be to talk to the girls, let them know what you did as a kid, what controls were in place etc. Then let them know that if you're ever needed, they can rely on you if they can't go to their parents.
You'll probably find out that since they have someone to go to when they need, and it's someone that knows all the "dirty" secrets, they end up growing into better people for it.
Id like to know why a 13 year old is out on a camping trip without any adults anyway.
They're kids, not convicted criminals.
madness
29-04-09, 06:42 AM
I'm not a parent, but if I had a 13 year old I'd want to know if they were getting drunk.
fizzwheel
29-04-09, 06:43 AM
Tricky isnt it... I dont envy you.
I'd be inclined to try talking to them again and see what they say, maybe ask them how much they drank ( apologies if you know already and I missed that bit )
The only thing my dad taught me about booze was that if he caught me drink driving he'd take my car away from me ( he paid for my first car ) and explained that he'd done it as a kid and he wouldnt recommend it as an experience.
I learnt about limits and alchol tolerance by gettnig completely off my face, now I know where my limit is, I dont think its something you can tell people you have to work it out for yourself, but I'm not so sure 13 years old is the right time in your life to be doing it.
I wouldnt be telling their parents, not if you want them to trust and talk to you in the future anyway. I'd definately talk to the kids though, but then you've the issue that if their parents find out they've been doing it and you knew and didnt tell them are their parents gonig to cross with you.
Meh what a nightmare !!!
I wouldnt be telling their parents, not if you want them to trust and talk to you in the future anyway. I'd definately talk to the kids though, but then you've the issue that if their parents find out they've been doing it and you knew and didnt tell them are their parents gonig to cross with you.
From the perspective of being a parent. If someone was there for my kids to trust, and my kids felt for any reason they couldn't tell me, then fair play.
Yes, I'd be pretty hurt that they felt they couldn't talk to me, but the overriding feeling would be that I'm glad they have someone they can turn to.
Unfortunately, for various reasons, not everyone is the same as me.
I also suspect on other occasions there will be boys in the group.
Oh no! Shock horror. Teenager's of the opposite sex hanging out dirnking together.
Let's stone them!
They're teenagers. They will learn by their mistakes.
Owenski
29-04-09, 08:11 AM
Thinking about it, Im pretty sure if someone were to look through your photos on the same networking site there would be some images of you looking rather tanked.
Photos only show a split second, even someone blinking can have them looking waisted so maybe its just a big mistake. Yes there was drink but it would take very little quantity to hammer a 13yr old who would prob put it on a bit too just to 'look cool' Just because the photos are online it obviously shows they're showing off to some extent, tbh now I'd say leave it alone it'll just be seen as stirring if you do anything about it.
I wish to change my vote to NO! :D
Oh no! Shock horror. Teenager's of the opposite sex hanging out dirnking together.
Let's stone them!
They're teenagers. They will learn by their mistakes.
At last! Someone with a sensible attitude. :)
Oh no! Shock horror. Teenager's of the opposite sex hanging out dirnking together.
Let's stone them!
They're teenagers. They will learn by their mistakes.
Yeah, untill we have another Alfie Patton on our hands...
Yeah, untill we have another Alfie Patton on our hands...
You know, some teenagers that end up becoming parents actually do an alright job of it.
Just a thought. :)
Yeah, untill we have another Alfie Patton on our hands...
sensationalist, media hype!
Millions of teens *are not* having babies every day.
Let's keep it in perspective.
sensationalist, media hype!
Millions of teens *are not* having babies every day.
Let's keep it in perspective.
The UK has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe.
The UK has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe.
Is that 1 in 100 teens, 1 in a 1000? A million? Or is it percentage wise?
What's the source?
-Ralph-
29-04-09, 01:09 PM
Thanks for the replies. I have posted a comment on the worst photo to the effect of, hope you paid the price for that one the next day, and to big sister you need to be keeping a better eye on her an remembering that shes two years younger than you. Then said that I care about what happens to them, so please could they both just please take it easy, cos you put yourself in a comprimised position when drunk. Also said if they need to phone me they know the number.
timwilky
29-04-09, 01:21 PM
good calls. Never easy
for the replies. I have posted a comment on the worst photo to the effect of, hope you paid the price for that one the next day, and to big sister you need to be keeping a better eye on her an remembering that shes two years younger than you. Then said that I care about what happens to them, so please could they both just please take it easy, cos you put yourself in a comprimised position when drunk. Also said is they need to phone me they know the number.
Well played. :)
Just leave it. If they want to drink, they will, and get themselves into all sort of states.
We have all made absolute ar$e's of ourselves when we were young! (still young) :)
As long as they have a good group of friends, it'l all be good, they look after each other.
As for the people who said, they will stop drinking after they feel ill the next morning, how many times have you woke up and said, fu(k, I am never drinking again. Doesn't last until next weekend.
First time I got pished was the tender age of 12 at New Year.
Parents have been buying me drink since I was around 14/15.
Been able to get served around here since we were around 16, so most weekends are spend in a pub of some sort.
Thats just the culture nowadays, most people drink, the guys that don't make an ar$e of themseleves after a few pints.
Biker Biggles
29-04-09, 02:24 PM
We did much the same and probably a lot worse at that age.The difference today is that you get found out so much easier because of facebook,and all manner of surveillance that never existed then.Chill out and live with it mate.
When I hear all the bad press about how dreadful the 1970s were I laugh.Deadful?Maybe,but a hell of a lot more fun than the dreary head up £rse times we live in now.
shonadoll
29-04-09, 02:36 PM
Oh no! Shock horror. Teenager's of the opposite sex hanging out dirnking together.
Let's stone them!
They're teenagers. They will learn by their mistakes.
See, that ****es me off. That's fine for some kids, but a 13 year old girl could get raped or worse when that out of control drunk.
As a parent of 2 boys and a girl, I do worry more about my daughter, though thankfully she does talk to me, but she's 15, not 13.
shonadoll
29-04-09, 02:37 PM
for the replies. I have posted a comment on the worst photo to the effect of, hope you paid the price for that one the next day, and to big sister you need to be keeping a better eye on her an remembering that shes two years younger than you. Then said that I care about what happens to them, so please could they both just please take it easy, cos you put yourself in a comprimised position when drunk. Also said is they need to phone me they know the number.
I think that's a happy medium.
See, that ****es me off. That's fine for some kids, but a 13 year old girl could get raped or worse when that out of control drunk.
As a parent of 2 boys and a girl, I do worry more about my daughter, though thankfully she does talk to me, but she's 15, not 13.
Raped? Theyre 15, i hardly think she would get raped.
Raped? Theyre 15, i hardly think she would get raped.
Whats that supposed to mean?
On what basis is she unlikely to be taken advantage of?
Thats the worst thing about girls drinking heavily, they can consent when drunk, and when they wake up in the morning, regret it, so shout rape.
Been done to my mate, not good.
See, that ****es me off. That's fine for some kids, but a 13 year old girl could get raped or worse when that out of control drunk.
As a parent of 2 boys and a girl, I do worry more about my daughter, though thankfully she does talk to me, but she's 15, not 13.
My parents don't have a problem with me going out, having a bevvy ect..
But my sister hasn't been allowed to drink, the problem is where she drinks, the company she keeps.
-Ralph-
29-04-09, 05:41 PM
Raped? Theyre 15, i hardly think she would get raped.
So 15 year olds don't get raped then? :confused: You're being very naive.
She is 13 anyway.
TV did a programme on a group of 18 year old lads on holiday in Spain recently drinking to excess. The biggest issue the TV presenter had was that once drunk the group of 4 friends fell apart, one wandered off to be sick and never found his mates again, another wandered off 'cos he'd had too much and needed to find his bed (he ended up lost and staggering all over a main road) another went off with a girl, so it left the fourth on his lonesome. Obviously an 18 year old lad is less vulnerable than a 13 year old girl, but the TV presenter argued that the three left alone were completely uncapable of defending themselves or making sensible decisions.
They were away somewhere camping. What if my cousin had felt ill and decided to go for a walk to clear her head (doesn't look like she could walk anyway but thats not the point). She could get lost, fall and break an ankle, walk out in front of a car, or yes, damn sure theres a risk she could get bundled into a car or dragged into a hedge and raped.
If in a crowd with older boys there also a chance she could get taken advantage of.
They were away somewhere camping. What if my cousin had felt ill and decided to go for a walk to clear her head (doesn't look like she could walk anyway but thats not the point). She could get lost, fall and break an ankle, walk out in front of a car, or yes, damn sure theres a risk she could get bundled into a car or dragged into a hedge and raped.
Happened a few months ago locally.
Local guy, liked a drink, decided to take a short cut through the local gold course home, fell asleep, died of hypathermia(sp)..
If they want to drink, which most people their/my age do, encourage to do it in safer circumstances.
So 15 year olds don't get raped then? :confused: You're being very naive.
She is 13 anyway.
No, i meant the boys she was with were only 15 and wouldnt rape her. I thought that was the point raised.
No, i meant the boys she was with were only 15 and wouldnt rape her.
You are joking, I hope!
Boys of that age are just as capable of rape as they are of mugging, stealing, and murder!
You are joking, I hope!
Boys of that age are just as capable of rape as they are of mugging, stealing, and murder!
Ive been 15, and cant imagine anyone i knew or knew of that would do something like that at such an age.
Ive been 15, and cant imagine anyone i knew or knew of that would do something like that at such an age.
I've been 15 too, and neither did I, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
There ARE bad ones out there!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1941305/Teenage-gang-members-jailed-for-life-for-Kodjo-Yenga-schoolboy-murder.html
I've been 15 too, and neither did I, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
There ARE bad ones out there!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1941305/Teenage-gang-members-jailed-for-life-for-Kodjo-Yenga-schoolboy-murder.html
Another teen stabbing, nothing new there. But rape, cmon find me an article about teenagers raping younger teenagers.
Another teen stabbing, nothing new there. But rape, cmon find me an article about teenagers raping younger teenagers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/teenage-rapists-are-named-and-shamed-1178664.html
Touché lissa, touché :)
Or this one. :(
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2001/04/27/judge-locks-up-teenage-rapists-100252-11037230/
Not every teenager is an evil little sod, but they are out there, sadly.
Scum of the earth, i cant stand hearing about stuff like that.
15 boys involved, but only 5 convicted as well... im sure they wont serve their 3.5 years each though, id put good money on it.
Leopard_lily
29-04-09, 08:51 PM
I'd first find out all the facts to:
"I don't have any details of where they went or which adults accompanied them"
shonadoll
29-04-09, 08:51 PM
No, i meant the boys she was with were only 15 and wouldnt rape her. I thought that was the point raised.
Oh for goodness sakes, the girl is 13, and 15 year olds are quite capable, and so are other men.
My point was, ANY 13 year old girl being that drunk, is vulnerable, and putting herself at risk, but naieve of the consequences. Too much too soon.
shonadoll
29-04-09, 08:56 PM
My parents don't have a problem with me going out, having a bevvy ect..
But my sister hasn't been allowed to drink, the problem is where she drinks, the company she keeps.
I agree with your parents, it's such a hard line to walk, I'm happy for my daughter to have a beer at home, in fact I'd rather. The eternal parent problem.:p
I'd also prefer if she wanted to drink at all with mates, that they did it at our house, but I can't decide that for other parents. The problem is Megan is really tiny, a size 6, and one beer really gets to her, so I worry.
shonadoll
29-04-09, 09:01 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7919294.stm
http://www.startribune.com/40234492.html?elr=KArksLckDiUvckDiU_oD77UiD3aPc:_Y yc:aU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUs
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/drunken-schoolgirl-raped-by-boy-13-victim-bullied-by-friends-court-told-1380827.html
Just a couple.
You know, some teenagers that end up becoming parents actually do an alright job of it.
Just a thought. :)
Thank you, from me, who was a father at just gone 19 and is very proud of the way he and his ex brought up their daughter
Oh for goodness sakes, the girl is 13, and 15 year olds are quite capable, and so are other men.
My point was, ANY 13 year old girl being that drunk, is vulnerable, and putting herself at risk, but naieve of the consequences. Too much too soon.
Most 13 year olds are already planning their first time, when they're sober. Being drunk won't make the slightest bit of difference to the timing, but might have some bearing on the identity of the partner.
We did much the same and probably a lot worse at that age.The difference today is that you get found out so much easier because of facebook,and all manner of surveillance that never existed then.Chill out and live with it mate.
When I hear all the bad press about how dreadful the 1970s were I laugh.Deadful?Maybe,but a hell of a lot more fun than the dreary head up £rse times we live in now.
I lost my virginity in the 70s, in 1976 to be exact, when I was 14. My partner was a year younger. And people say that kids grow up too quick nowadays - cobblers, they've always grown up this fast but we always try to make the past seem so much more pleasant.
-Ralph-
29-04-09, 11:09 PM
I lost my virginity in the 70s, in 1976 to be exact, when I was 14. My partner was a year younger. And people say that kids grow up too quick nowadays - cobblers, they've always grown up this fast but we always try to make the past seem so much more pleasant.
I think you'll find you were quite an early starter :rambo: ;)
I was 16.
Maybe we should do a poll....?
-Ralph-
29-04-09, 11:15 PM
I'd first find out all the facts to:
"I don't have any details of where they went or which adults accompanied them"
I had no way of finding that out without giving away the fact I'd seen the photos (and in the parents case alerting them to thier existance) to either parents or kids. The kids would immediately be on the defensive 'cos they'd realise they were caught, the parents may then go and look at the photo set, find the offending photos, which I wasn't sure I wanted that to happen.
BanannaMan
30-04-09, 04:31 AM
If I was the parent - I would want to know.
If I was the child - I would want my privacy respected.
If I was Ralph - I would wish I knew nothing!
I think, in the situation I would have a general chat with the kids about booze, without mentioning the pictures. I would then have a general chat about posting pictures of themselves on the internet. Then wait for the penny to drop.
+1
My sentiments exactly.
Kilted Ginger
30-04-09, 05:27 AM
Another teen stabbing, nothing new there. But rape, cmon find me an article about teenagers raping younger teenagers.
Happened at my school 15+ years ago, dont ever remember it hitting the papers or getting to court.
edit... sorry see this has already been answered.
shonadoll
30-04-09, 06:40 AM
Most 13 year olds are already planning their first time, when they're sober. Being drunk won't make the slightest bit of difference to the timing, but might have some bearing on the identity of the partner.
You say that like it's fact. If a 13 year old is so drunk she gets assaulted, or worse, raped, do you not consider that to be a slight difference to the timing? Ludicrous statement.
shonadoll
30-04-09, 06:42 AM
I think you'll find you were quite an early starter :rambo: ;)
I was 16.
Maybe we should do a poll....?
I think that's very young too, I was 16.
You are joking, I hope!
Boys of that age are just as capable of rape as they are of mugging, stealing, and murder!
You're joking I hope?!
Yes, and they are also just as capable of being capable, decent members of society. And more likely to be too!
Just becuase a boy has a beer doesn't make him a serial sex offender.
Millions of teenagers are not being raped EVERY day!
Just keep an eye out for her. It's as likely she did it becasue she's inexperienced at drinking, and likely to never do it again!
biggest flawed comment ever :lol:
How many times has everyone here woken up and gone "never again"...
Only to go out the next few nights/weekend and got blattered again :lol:
biggest flawed comment ever :lol:
How many times has everyone here woken up and gone "never again"...
Only to go out the next few nights/weekend and got blattered again :lol:
+1.
I don't really think a poll will conform to the u rating, will it?
But I wasn't too bad, 15, with a girl the same age.
Kilted Ginger
01-05-09, 08:02 PM
You're joking I hope?!
Yes, and they are also just as capable of being capable, decent members of society. And more likely to be too!
Just becuase a boy has a beer doesn't make him a serial sex offender.
Millions of teenagers are not being raped EVERY day!
That is not what was said Kinvig, what was said was that their age didn't make them less or more likely than adults to commit any of the offences. Which was then backed up by numerous examples.
I have a friend that worked with a well known phone counseling service for children, You would be horrified at how many assaullts / rapes go on of young girls who never tell anyone other than a stranger on the phone. Their mental and emotional maturity does not lend itself to placeig the blame where it should be and they can only see how they will be viewed not that they were a victim.
If only 30% of raped adults report it how low do you think the % is of teenagers who report it, either by other teenagers or "adults"
Bluefish
01-05-09, 08:12 PM
there is a lad now 16 very close to where i live being investigated for having sex with a 12 year old, not saying she was raped cos i don't know any details.
Kilted Ginger
01-05-09, 08:14 PM
News today that the Guy who abused "baby P" also RAPED A 2 YEAR OLD.
Tell me again why we dont have the death penalt in this country??
Sorry for derail Ralph
shonadoll
01-05-09, 08:47 PM
You're joking I hope?!
Yes, and they are also just as capable of being capable, decent members of society. And more likely to be too!
Just becuase a boy has a beer doesn't make him a serial sex offender.
Millions of teenagers are not being raped EVERY day!
At NO point did anyone say because a boy had a beer he was more likely to be a serial sex offender. You are taking it totally out of context.:confused:
I don't understand your reasoning on why they will be capable decent members of society by virtue of what exactly?
Girls who are drinking at the age of 13 and becoming seriously intoxicated run the risk of not only health damage, but exposing themselves to situations they otherwise wouldn't put themselves in, and in which they are emotionally and physically incapable of dealing with the fall out and consequences.
Read back the thread and look at the links posted, maybe that will help you realise what actually goes on these days, in Britain.
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