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im getting a bit bored of the trials bike so was thinking of selling and getting a DRZ, i know a few people on here have/had them, and i was just wondering what model to go for
i would want a spare set of wheels, so i could have enduro tyres and supermoto tyres, is it just a matter of swapping the wheels, or do you have to do the suspension?
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rictus01
30-04-09, 07:33 PM
so is this post bumping or what, been asked and answered several times as you well know.
but in the spirit of helpfulness a previous thread (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=107478&highlight=drz400)
Cheers Mark.
im getting a bit bored of the trials bike so was thinking of selling and getting a DRZ, i know a few people on here have/had them, and i was just wondering what model to go for
i would want a spare set of wheels, so i could have enduro tyres and supermoto tyres, is it just a matter of swapping the wheels, or do you have to do the suspension?
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Its not as easy as swapping the wheels. The SM and E version have different calliper heights, its still perfectly possible but just takes a little longer than you may think.
Have you considered any of the KTM's?
so, what do you have to do then to swap the wheels? and what would an "E" be like on the road, with supermoto tyres.
i have never been a fan of KTMs, my mate had no end of trouble, which put me off,
i have thought obout the xr400 with electric start,
You cant put a 250mm offroad rotor on without changing the lower fork leg to an RM 47mm one
Actually... you should just be able to put the SM rotor onto the E wheel
You cant put a 250mm offroad rotor on without changing the lower fork leg to an RM 47mm one
sorry, i dont understand
if i got a spare set of wheels, and put road tyres on them, whats the problem??
sorry, i dont understand
if i got a spare set of wheels, and put road tyres on them, whats the problem?
Oh you mean having the big E wheels with slick tyres on? Yes thats a deadly simple swap, but this would mean you should buy the E (enduro version) not the SM because you dont really want knobblies on 17" wheels. The SM wheels are smaller (17")
There are some dual purpose tyres available in 17"
ahhhhhhhhhh so the sm wheels are smaller?
i would be getting the "e" version, as its yellow, and better, what im getting at is would "e" wheels be ok with supermoto style tyres. and can you get SM tyres to fit the "e" wheels.
fizzwheel
30-04-09, 07:58 PM
ahhhhhhhhhh so the sm wheels are smaller?
Yep the Super Moto wheels are 17" like the ones on your blade are. Where as the Enduro wheels will be bigger. But I'm not sure what size they'll be...
Yep the Super Moto wheels are 17" like the ones on your blade are. Where as the Enduro wheels will be bigger. But I'm not sure what size they'll be... i did not relise that
moto-x are 21 front 18 back, so i guess they will be the same
Yep the Super Moto wheels are 17" like the ones on your blade are. Where as the Enduro wheels will be bigger. But I'm not sure what size they'll be...
Front is 21", rear is 18"
Had a 400s- good fun off tarmac but not great fun on the road -tried changing sprockets but I felt it was a bit underpowered and they are expensive to modify to get more power, also mine was always reluctant to start if not used every day despite full engine check/service- although obviously this is unlikely to be typical, think it was just a tired battery. Maybe the E model might be more fun -uprated cams/carbs/tuning which are worth having I would imagine. If I was buying another offroad bike would go for KTM or ?CCM something with a bit more poke. I think the SM would be fairly pointless with 33bhp - you would be better with an SV if not taking it off tarmac.
whats the differance between the "s" and the "e" ?
jamesterror
30-04-09, 08:24 PM
I thought on the S and SM you could use either enduro or supermoto wheels.
I've seen a few on ebay like this, your best bet is to ask lone wolf he had a DRZ and has a KTM at the minute.
fizzwheel
30-04-09, 08:24 PM
whats the differance between the "s" and the "e" ?
I think from the quick google I've just done and a past conversation on here that the E makes more power than the S.
I think from the quick google I've just done and a past conversation on here that the E makes more power than the S.
i read that too........ but i was wondering what the differance too look at, or spec
the SM is the supermoto,
i should google it shouldnt i
E is almost the same as S but has better tuned engine. Also not road legal - but easy enough to make it road legal- just needs indicators etc- so I would be looking for a road legal E.
E is almost the same as S but has better tuned engine. Also not road legal - but easy enough to make it road legal- just needs indicators etc- so I would be looking for a road legal E.
just googled it, as you say the "s" is a tamer road legal version. so is heavier
where as the "e" is the off road model........ so the "e" does not come with indys and speedo as standad then?
Actually... you should just be able to put the SM rotor onto the E wheel
you mean brake disc?
thats what i was just thinking, just put a "e" disc on the sm wheels.
just googled it, as you say the "s" is a tamer road legal version. so is heavier
where as the "e" is the off road model........ so the "e" does not come with indys and speedo as standad then?
The E is still road legal, indies, dials and everything (its still a road bike).
you mean brake disc?
thats what i was just thinking, just put a "e" disc on the sm wheels.
Yep thats what i mean.
If i had the choice, id just get the SM. When were you planning to use it offroad?
If i had the choice, id just get the SM. When were you planning to use it offroad?
i think i would do more off roading than errrrrr roading.
i have the blade for the road, and im thinking of selling the trials bike, and i have always had some sort of off road bike............. im not even sure if i would use the SM wheels
I have no idea what the 'roads' are like in wales, and the offroad tracks where you would ride. But im assuming it will not be public tracks? If this is the case then why get a road legal bike and pay the tax + insurance for it.
mostly green laning?
i was thinking of getting a moto-x bike again, but they are to noisey, and the police are clamping down
Luckypants
01-05-09, 12:31 AM
whats the differance between the "s" and the "e" ?
just googled it, as you say the "s" is a tamer road legal version. so is heavier
where as the "e" is the off road model........ so the "e" does not come with indys and speedo as standad then?
The 'E' is the enduro model and is aimed at the race market. Suzuki have lost interest in this model as they have newer faster models to push for racing. You get better engine, plastic (lighter) subframe etc. The bike is NOT road legal, (for instance no rear light or brake light) so cannot be used on green lanes although spend some money and you make it road legal. Most are not registered for the road (even from new) and to get one registered you need get SVA for it.
The 'S' model is the road legal off-road machine that is intended for green laning. It has type approval and so can be registered to the road with no hasssle. It comes with indicators, mirrors, big number plate and all that jazz. It is still capable off-road as has same suspension as the 'E' model above. It also has an electric start, which is nice.
The SM is the out the box supermoto model. It had USD forks, road wheels / tyres, bigger more powerful front brake to take advantage of the extra grip etc, but apart from these is essentially the same as the 'S' model.
The E is still road legal, indies, dials and everything (its still a road bike).
No it is not, you really need to research this a little more. The 'E' has no indies, no mirrors, no rear lights and no type approval.
No it is not, you really need to research this a little more. The 'E' has no indies, no mirrors, no rear lights and no type approval.
Are you saying theres more than two types of DRZ? I thought there were only two. The SM, and this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-SUZUKI-DRZ400-SK1-BLUE-WHITE_W0QQitemZ170324948313QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_M otorcycles?hash=item170324948313&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50#ebayphot ohosting
I looked into getting one rather than the SV a while ago and i thought there were only two types...
Edit - http://www.suzukimotorcycles.com.au/images/upload/working/Original07_DR-Z400E_K7_3-4.jpg this is the E version also
Luckypants
01-05-09, 12:43 AM
As for wheels, there has been some more misinformation.....
You can get 17" supermoto type wheels to fit directly onto the 'S' or 'E' models, complete with the right size / offset brake rotors. Look up Talon or similar on fleabay, they go for £300 to £500 depending on condition. One of the downsides to going this route is your speedo reads high as the rolling circumference of this set up is lower than standard.
An alternative to full on SM wheels is to fit road biased tyres to the standard DRZ wheels - I'm gonna do this for exploring surfaced lanes around my area, a sort of All Terrain tyre (Avon Distanzia). I am looking out for some spare standard wheels to put my knobblies on, so that I can swap to them easily for green laning. Takes half an hour to swap the wheels over.
Luckypants
01-05-09, 12:50 AM
Are you saying theres more than two types of DRZ? I thought there were only two. The SM, and this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-SUZUKI-DRZ400-SK1-BLUE-WHITE_W0QQitemZ170324948313QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_M otorcycles?hash=item170324948313&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50#ebayphot ohosting
I looked into getting one rather than the SV a while ago and i thought there were only two types...
Edit - http://www.suzukimotorcycles.com.au/images/upload/working/Original07_DR-Z400E_K7_3-4.jpg this is the E version also
Yes there are three versions. The 'E', the 'S' and the 'SM' Both your links look like 'S' versions to me. This is the 'E' currently on sale by Suzuki (http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/drz400k7e/), note the lack of indicators...
This is my 'S'... (indicators removed for offroading)
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w111/luckypants_photos/Random%20biking%20photos/2008_0211random0002.jpg
They are hard to tell apart.. but look at the tailpiece, with number plate, rear light and indicator mounts.
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