Cramping and pins/ needles

[Specialone]

I have posted before on this and also read other org'rs posts on the same subject.
I cannot stop the cramping and sometimes pins and needles when riding.
Happened after just 15 mins on saturday.
Riding smoothness deteriates as this sets in.
Tried adjusting the levers down a bit but no luck.
I cannot see light at the end of the tunnel, i am mentally trying to slacken my grip on the bars but dont feel right.
Didnt have this happen on my naked cb500 learner bike (before anyone says it, i dont want to buy one of these).
Cant do any long rides as it gets painfull after a bit so could not go on any rideouts of any distance.
The only thing i haven't tried is a new set of gloves or maybe gel inserts to stop me gripping so hard.
Anyone else tried this?

[hovis]

what bike have you got now?

are your gloves too tight?

maybe heated grips would help?

[Specialone]

what bike have you got now?

are your gloves too tight?

maybe heated grips would help?

09 k7 sv650s.
same gloves i had during DAS.

dont want to change bike as i love this one.;)

[chompy]

i get this sometimes and i find its all down to where i positiono my ar$e on the seat, it helps alot

[Jamiebridges123]

I'm sure it's a combination of holding on too tight and possibly your gloves. Try a cheapo pair for like £10 from Lidls and see what happens. :)

[Frank]

I had the same problem and only cured it by getting a bike that had an upright seating position

[chompy]

also, the possition of the other bike will be less strain on your hands and rists than this bike will be, if the gloves are slightly too big i find that they bunch together in sertain areas, do you find you have inprints on sertain parts of your hand when you take your gloves off?

[Specialone]

I'm sure it's a combination of holding on too tight and possibly your gloves. Try a cheapo pair for like £10 from Lidls and see what happens. :)

I want to get some short gloves anyway as i have just bought a new jacket for summer use and my present gloves are too big for my cuffs on my new jacket.
Was thinking about some thin off road type gloves.

[Bluefish]

could be rsi or similar, do you do any repetative work with your hands, no naughty comments please.

[Stuuk1]

Im completely new to biking and got this on the 500cc I did my test on and on my new sv650. I found that I got huge pain in my shoulder and bad pain in my hands. I found I was slouching and putting too much weight on my hands.


I stopped it by trying to sit a little more upright, and keeping my back straight (obviously not sitting bolt upright) just making sure my back isnt in an arched position.
This way I didnt have so much weight down through my body and on to the handle bars.

Worth a try!

[Specialone]

I had the same problem and only cured it by getting a bike that had an upright seating position

I hope it dont come to this :(

also, the possition of the other bike will be less strain on your hands and rists than this bike will be, if the gloves are slightly too big i find that they bunch together in sertain areas, do you find you have inprints on sertain parts of your hand when you take your gloves off?

No imprints, im a heavy guy 15 1/2 stone (not fat BTW) and 6'1" so not sure if its weight on palms etc

[chompy]

I hope it dont come to this :(



No imprints, im a heavy guy 15 1/2 stone (not fat BTW) and 6'1" so not sure if its weight on palms etc


have you got your levers set up right? as soon as i changed mine and moved them down a bit it made a huge amount of difference i was amazed. when you get the bike it comes with the levers quite high, lower them untill its comfortable

[Specialone]

could be rsi or similar, do you do any repetative work with your hands, no naughty comments please.

i'm a builder so my hands do get some abuse especially when doing a lot of hammering ( nail gun helps)
Also way too much time with a ps3 controller in hand ( that reminds me i should be on cod4 by now)

[chompy]

i'm a builder so do my hands do get some abuse especially when doing a lot of hammering ( nail gun helps)
Also way too much time with a ps3 controller in hand ( that reminds me i should be on cod4 by now)

sorry to de rail add charliescs im just going on join my party :D

[Specialone]

have you got your levers set up right? as soon as i changed mine and moved them down a bit it made a huge amount of difference i was amazed. when you get the bike it comes with the levers quite high, lower them untill its comfortable


Tried that mate, made no difference.
TBH i preferred the original position.

[Specialone]

sorry to de rail add charliescs im just going on join my party :D


will do, gimme 5

[leesh00]

im 6 2" and about the same weight as you - have a 650s but have the renthal bars fitted which do give you a more upright position. However i did find my hands going numb after the first 5-10 mins - doesnt seem to happen too much now which i put down to being a bit more comfortable with the bike and whenever i hit some traffic n theres no passing ops i take the weight off my palms and just have my fingers on the grips. I do still get some numbness but been out on 3/4 hr rides and its nothing unbearable. So shouldnt be no need to sell the bike just yet :D

[ophic]

If its the vibrations causing the problem, try some heavier bar ends. I think the ones from an SV1000 will fit.

[TazDaz]

No imprints, im a heavy guy 15 1/2 stone (not fat BTW) and 6'1" so not sure if its weight on palms etc

Most likely too much weight going through the arms/hands. I'm a bit heavier than you and taller (6'4"ish) and when I first started riding my hands and wrists were getting quite sore after half hour or so as I was gripping too hard and putting most of my weight through my arms.

I remied the problem by almost just fingering the controls rather than solidly gripping the throttle and grip, and try to keep your arms nice and relaxed, not straight and stiff. Also, try and get your stomach muscles to take some of your weight - this might be the thing which helped reduce my wrist pains the most.

If you're on the motorway or anything, you can crouch right down so your face is near the tank so you have even less weight through you're wrists.

[rictus01]

Just a thought, I now ride a bike I would have thought beyond me as far as riding position is concerned, basically it has high pegs and clipons.

After a week and 600 miles, the wrist ache isn't to bad but the problem I've found is I'm unable to keep weight off my wrists as I can't grip the tank very well ( long story there), so in an effort to help I plan to try some Stompgrip on the tank, should help me lock-in to the tank and take some weight threw my lower back.

used to use gripper tape many years ago for racing, hopefully it'll be a bit kinder on my kit.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Cheers Mark.

[rictus01]

Most likely too much weight going through the arms/hands. I'm a bit heavier than you and taller (6'4"ish) and when I first started riding my hands and wrists were getting quite sore after half hour or so as I was gripping too hard and putting most of my weight through my arms.

I remied the problem by almost just fingering the controls rather than solidly gripping the throttle and grip, and try to keep your arms nice and relaxed, not straight and stiff. Also, try and get your stomach muscles to take some of your weight - this might be the thing which helped reduce my wrist pains the most..

Indeed, but you'll find locking into the tank with your knees and using the small of the back works better.


If you're on the motorway or anything, you can crouch right down so your face is near the tank so you have even less weight through you're wrists.

Conversly, at motorway speeds actually sitting up with the wind on your chest, takes a fair amount of weight off your arms anyway.

Cheers Mark.

[Bibio]

dont ride with your arms straight.. bend your elbow so your forearm is as parallel to the road as possible.. this will take most of the weight of your wrist and hands also has the added benefit of your arms acting like a linkage when going over humps and bumps.. its a bit weird at first but perseverance pays dividends and after a while becomes second nature...

[BanannaMan]

Most likely too much weight going through the arms/hands. I'm a bit heavier than you and taller (6'4"ish) and when I first started riding my hands and wrists were getting quite sore after half hour or so as I was gripping too hard and putting most of my weight through my arms.

I remied the problem by almost just fingering the controls rather than solidly gripping the throttle and grip, and try to keep your arms nice and relaxed, not straight and stiff. Also, try and get your stomach muscles to take some of your weight - this might be the thing which helped reduce my wrist pains the most.

If you're on the motorway or anything, you can crouch right down so your face is near the tank so you have even less weight through you're wrists.





+1

Most likely you're either gripping too tightly or you've got too much weight on your wrists.

Agreed here on the fix as well....try almost fingering the controls...lightly as possible.
This will also cure the problem, on the fly, if your hands are already tingling.
Bend your arms more and don't grip so tight! ;)


If it's been a month or more since I've been out on the bike I'll often find myself gripping too tightly after just the first few minutes of riding....until the tingling starts.... and I'll relax my hands a bit and be OK for the rest of the day.

[Specialone]

im 6 2" and about the same weight as you - have a 650s but have the renthal bars fitted which do give you a more upright position. However i did find my hands going numb after the first 5-10 mins - doesnt seem to happen too much now which i put down to being a bit more comfortable with the bike and whenever i hit some traffic n theres no passing ops i take the weight off my palms and just have my fingers on the grips. I do still get some numbness but been out on 3/4 hr rides and its nothing unbearable. So shouldnt be no need to sell the bike just yet :D

What's involved in fitting the renthal bars and how much to buy roughly?

[leesh00]

What's involved in fitting the renthal bars and how much to buy roughly?
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Sorry I cant be more help here mate, but the bike had them fitted when i bought it :scratch:

[Specialone]

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Sorry I cant be more help here mate, but the bike had them fitted when i bought it :scratch:

no probs mate, ill look into it, cheers
phil

[MattCollins]

The angle of the bar ends and the resulting hand/wrist/arm angle may also be part of the problem.

Cheers

[monkey]

Won't Renthals be a bit tight to fit within the bikin fairing?

I find that even different roads make a difference as do cruising at regular revs. Try the others tips before shopping for bling. They might not even help at all.

Good luck.