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branny

08-05-09, 12:33 PM

it's that time of year again where my reg/rec conks out!
well, it hapened once before and luckily a very nice person on here sorted me out with a replacement....
now that one has run its course, i need a new one. i know that these are very expensise parts to buy from suzuki, so does anybody know where the cheapest aftermarket ones are available from?

Or does anybody have 1 for sale?

My bike is a 99 curvy.

Thanks!

BigFootIsBlurry

08-05-09, 12:35 PM

I think there are pattern parts on ebay, dont know of the quality though

hovis

08-05-09, 12:36 PM

if you do a search, you can replace it with a honda one, which is better

OE suzuki is about £90, and can be got drom your dealer,

2nd hand ones from ebay or breakers, but i wouldnt bother

Yorkie chris has a honda one

branny

08-05-09, 12:39 PM

ok, i will have a look.

otherwise i am looking at £75 from WEMOTO (usually the cheapest i think)
http://shop.wemoto.com/pictures.dyn?u=1915475qqq25671

Yorkie chris has a honda one

for sale?

i see the 'pattern' ones are a bit cheaper, but are they any good? this one says it is 'new'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-SV650-SV-650-REGULATOR-RECTIFIER-717835_W0QQitemZ400026361963QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item400026361963&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

shifter

08-05-09, 01:06 PM

My mate just got one from LM Spares for about £69.
http://www.lm-spares.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2elm%2dspares %2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fSV650_SX%2dK2_99%2d02_%2eh tml&WD=sv650%20regulator&SHOP=%20&PN=Suzuki_Regulator_Rectifiers%2ehtml%23a781#a781

Dave20046

08-05-09, 01:10 PM

honda cbr rr -> ebay - > £30-£50 better than an sv one.
I've got a new tormax sv one on mine that was £55 does the job ( I think anyway!) but the chargeing is still resonably poor.

branny

08-05-09, 01:28 PM

do the honda ones require wiring changes?

hovis

08-05-09, 01:31 PM

do the honda ones require wiring changes?

im not sure, if so, nothing major, PM yorkie chris:thumleft:

Dave20046

08-05-09, 01:34 PM

yeah they do, very straight forward all you'll need is a soldering iron. You'll get any help on her should you need it.

branny

08-05-09, 04:15 PM

Dave20046

08-05-09, 04:23 PM

I was looking at the cbr600rr's and looking at that pic it looks fine (you'll have to remove that bracket I think though). Not sure about the blade one as I can't see the wiring. What you need is three yellows (outputs) and 2 or 4 postive/negative wires.
To fit to the sv you'll need to swap the plugs and if you get one with 4 power cables (i.e 2x red and 2 x black wires) you just need to pair up the matching colours to make 1 red wire and 1 black wire.

If that makes sense.

branny

08-05-09, 04:54 PM

thanks for that.
i think i will buy the 03 CBR one then.... i may just give it til tomorrow to see if Yorkie Chris comes by here and confirms that any year CBR ones will work (ie not just 94-99 etc).

cheers, potentially saved me £30.

Dave20046

08-05-09, 05:05 PM

yorkie chris has an 04 or 05 on his bike if I recall correctly.

Alpinestarhero

08-05-09, 05:05 PM

I got a genuine replacment part from suzuki spares direct. I've encountered no problems with 18,000 miles of this one, bike used every day in all weathers for all sorts of riding.

Else, try Wemoto. they do good parts at good prices and are very prompt.

Dave20046

08-05-09, 05:07 PM

aye, probably make do with a genuine one. I went for a sv (japanese aftermarket) one as it was reasonably cheap, guaranteed to fit and I needed it right then.

There are conflicting points of view about the gen. SV ones though. All I know is mine lasted 7k.

branny

08-05-09, 05:38 PM

I will go with Honda, because i replaced my SV one with another SV one which only gave me 3 years! (albeit a used one)

this looks like the one for me-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=280341380560&Category=10460&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2

£23

can anybody confirm it will fit ok?

thanks

empty

08-05-09, 07:24 PM

cool.
is ebay my best bet?
so, i imagine there are lots of different types... how about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-CBR600-RR-CBR-600-voltage-regulator-rectifier-03_W0QQitemZ180352577829QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Moto rcycle_Parts?hash=item180352577829&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

this one is off a fireblade and going for £1, please tell me it will work!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-CBR900-RR-FireBlade-RR-Y-regulator-rectifier_W0QQitemZ180352699600QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ UK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item180352699600&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Either will work, I have a 'blade one in my curvy, physically it is a bit bigger but the screw holes are in the right place and it fits. The wiring is 3*yellow wires (connect to the three yellow alternator phases on SV), 2*Red (Both positive, wire both to red on SV) and 2*Green (Both ground, wire to black on SV). Cables are pretty heavy duty and bending them to fit can be a challenge but it is possible. I bought mine because it was cheap, like this one.

Any 12V reg/rec from any recent (as in the last 15 years) 600cc+ bike will work fine, might be a bit of work to fit if the holes are a different spacing though.

MT

xXBADGERXx

08-05-09, 07:29 PM

I heard a suggestion about using one from a Honda 4 stroke 250 a while back on a different forum , may have been a CB250 of sorts . They are apparently "Bomb" proof . Might be worth doing a bit more research on this if I get some spare time to myself over the next week .

branny

08-05-09, 07:47 PM

i am a bit gutted that you think the blade one will work! as i have just spent £45 on a 600 RR one.
I went for that because i know for a fact it works ok.... now slightly tempted to buy the cheap one and sell the £45 one on.

The wiring is 3*yellow wires (connect to the three yellow alternator phases on SV), 2*Red (Both positive, wire both to red on SV) and 2*Green (Both ground, wire to black on SV
but that makes 7 wires... the one in the pic looks to have 5

empty

08-05-09, 08:31 PM

i am a bit gutted that you think the blade one will work! as i have just spent £45 on a 600 RR one.
I went for that because i know for a fact it works ok.... now slightly tempted to buy the cheap one and sell the £45 one on.

but that makes 7 wires... the one in the pic looks to have 5

The green ones are hiding, you can see one poking out on the right.

MT

branny

09-05-09, 08:08 AM

Ok, i have purchased a CBR 600 RR 2003 Reg/rec for £45 AND i have purchased a fireblade reg/rec for £1.

As i am certain the 600 RR one will work, I will compare the wiring etc etc and have a bit of an investigation. I will perhaps write all the info down so it can be made available on this site.

Then i will sell on the spare!

Should be interesting.... as well as useful to a lot of SVers with low cashflow!

thanks all.

Dave20046

09-05-09, 03:17 PM

Let us know how you get on

yorkie_chris

10-05-09, 01:14 AM

Wouldn't surprise me if the bl*de regrec is the same.

xXBADGERXx

10-05-09, 01:36 AM

Reg/Rec on my Honda Yawnadero was a Ducati branded one ?

That ended up making a whistling noise and smelt of Fish ...... I kid you not .

branny

13-05-09, 06:51 PM

my 2 regrecs have arrived, 1 CBR RR and 1 FireBlade.

they appear to be about the same size and have identical wiring.
I am going to fit the fireblade one and re-sell the CBR one (it cost 35 quid).

1 plug has 3 yellow wires and 1 plug has 2 red / 2 green.

Can anybody quickly explain the fastening procedure? (again!)

Cheers
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/branny1982/bladeplugs.jpg

Here is the blade one-
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/branny1982/bladeregrec.jpg

Here is the CBR one-
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/branny1982/cbrregrec.jpg

yorkie_chris

13-05-09, 06:54 PM

Just have a guess what's the worst that could ... oh yeah!

OK. Yellow wires connect directly as the yellow wires on your OEM reg reg. Chop the little 6" stub of yellows off so you can replace the connector and plug it straight into the wire coming up from tha generator.

Other lot, get some big spade connectors and ring terminals, the reds go to the battery live, the greens to earth. Ignore the OEM connections they're $hite small bore cable.

branny

13-05-09, 07:58 PM

ahh, so you recommend connecting directly to the battery/earth rather than using the wiring, ok.

I was thinking i would cut the wiring off my SV650 reg/rec and solder the honda one straight to it... thus enabling easy re-fitment. would there be any problems with that?

yorkie_chris

13-05-09, 07:59 PM

Nope will work fine

zunkus

13-10-09, 02:04 PM

My Curvy Regulator is knackered. Should I buy a CBR one then?

Dave20046

13-10-09, 02:10 PM

My Curvy Regulator is knackered. Should I buy a CBR one then?
Most recommend it, I used a japanese aftermarket one on mine and it lasted atleast a few months (sold the bike) but if I could ahve got one I would ahve gone for the CBR one.

Northwind recently did a thread on reg/rec longitivity IIRC

branny

13-10-09, 02:10 PM

I would say so for the price difference.

My reg/rec performance with the fireblade one has been fairly poor.
I wouldn't say it is chargin properly and i have resorted to buying a charger and always having a charged battery at home on standby.

zunkus

13-10-09, 02:31 PM

Can you post a link? Can't find it...