TLW down:(

[the_lone_wolf]

Those of you on MM09 will already know but I managed to end up in a ditch

The basic gist was that I was following Drew and Hovis back to Drew's, we were going round a right hander and a car came the other way right on the white line, We all moved to the left but I managed to misjudge the corner which tightened up and dropped away, drifted wide and touched the kerb

Next thing I know there's a road sign rushing up to me, I remember the "CLANG" and then being upside down in the ditch next to the bike, it ****ing oil over itself

It would appear the bike ran along the kerb on the lhs of the front wheel and brake disc until I hit the sign and we parted company, falling on it's LHS, the stator cover dug in and flipped the bike, to quote Drew "cartwheeling" along the verge

After hitting the sign it seems I fell forward and down and on my right thigh, ripping a hole in my leathers on the rough concrete and gouging a hole in my leg, either when it hit the ground or the signpost I broke a bone in my left hand. Other than those two I've got aches and what-not, but got away pretty well

Anyway, some photos...

The corner:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7866.jpg?t=1241902109

The sign:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7864.jpg?t=1241902152

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7865.jpg?t=1241902184

The resulting dent I left in the sign on impact:smt107

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7875.jpg?t=1241902368

Where we ended up, note leather ripping abrasive concrete on right

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7867.jpg

Hovis looking for bits to steal:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7872.jpg?t=1241902314

On the trailer to come home:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7876.jpg

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7877.jpg

BIG THANKS:

Drew and Hovis for being off the bikes and there so quick
Lily for driving out the car and taking me to hospital
The nurse who stopped and advised that my hand was likely broken
BMW driver who stopped and helped fish the bike out the hedge
Lily's brother for getting his van and taking the bike back to Drew&Lily's place
Drew and Lily again for the food/bed/painkillers
All the guys who showed up at A&E to pick me up after midnight, and bringing me a beer
My Dad for driving my car + trailer all the way up today to get me

Damage is pretty extensive if superficial, frame/swingarm/forks appear straight, a none exhaustive list:

All bodywork scratched
Engine case smashed
Front subframe snapped
Headlamp unit scratched and broken
Front wheel gouged and left hand brake disc knobbled
Brake/clutch/gear shift levers bent
Both mirrors/indys damaged

Ho hum, will get hold of the insurers on monday...

[fizzwheel]

Oopsy...

I was expecting the damage to be alot worse than that, especially when I saw the bike in the ditch.

Best of luck with the recovery.

[Drew Carey]

I'm just glad your ok is buddy. So sorry we met under such circumstances. hope you get better soon matey.

[Kinvig]

Wow!!!!!

Get well soon! I think you've been lucky - that could've been worse!

[Ed]

Couldn't believe what Drew was telling me when I called him... and you sounded so calm too. Don't suppose the car stopped??? Sad about your mashed bike, but as ever glad that you're here to tell the tale:D

Hope your hand and leg heal up quick.

[the_lone_wolf]

Oopsy...

I was expecting the damage to be alot worse than that, especially when I saw the bike in the ditch.

Best of luck with the recovery.

Thanks dude, the docs said the gash on my leg will take 4-6weeks to heal, got an appointment with the fracture clininc on tuesday to see how long i'll be in plaster...

The photos don't really do the damage justice, the engine case really is smashed, half of the LHS cover is missing and the rest is bent into the rotor, presumably while it was still running:(

[Lou M]

and let me guess, the car didn't stop. Hope the hand heals soon.

[the_lone_wolf]

Couldn't believe what Drew was telling me when I called him... and you sounded so calm too. Don't suppose the car stopped???
doubt they even realised what they'd done tbh:(

[Ed]

The photos don't really do the damage justice, the engine case really is smashed, half of the LHS cover is missing and the rest is bent into the rotor, presumably while it was still running:(

Write-off???:(

[punyXpress]

A shock to hear that, tlw
Hope both you & the bike make a speedy recovery

[fizzwheel]

got an appointment with the fracture clininc on tuesday to see how long i'll be in plaster...

6 - 8 weeks I expect thats how long they told me I would be in plaster when I broke my radius at the left wrist joint.

You have my sympathies...

[G]

Bloody hell me old fruit, you could have ended up decapitated from hitting that beast, so its a shame you did not put some money on the EuroMillions.

Glad your ok, and the bike looks like its hardly got a scratch :cool:, although its hard to tell on black bikes.

(Some pics of the trumpet next to the household waste sign next time ;):p)

[the_lone_wolf]

Write-off???:(

possibly, gravel in the engine will probably see to that, plus expensive plastics...

try to buy it back and rebuild the engine myself for a track bike perhaps, or just part out the good bits...

[madness]

Sorry to hear about this. At least you're not too badly hurt. Hope your insurance is fully comp. Hope you're back on the road soon.

[Baph]

Those 675's crash well then! An SV cartwheeling would be a write-off! I can barely see any damage on yours TLW!

I hope you heal quickly fella!!

[Drew Carey]

Deffo a right off, when the bike was on it's side in the van all the casings came out and it looked like it probably would have mashed up the insides. So would mean a total engine re build on top of the body work and front sub frame damage.

[the_lone_wolf]

6 - 8 weeks I expect thats how long they told me I would be in plaster when I broke my radius at the left wrist joint.

You have my sympathies...
i'll photo the x-ray tomorrow, it's a metacarpel that i've busted and it's a fairly clean break

oh, and HJC makes bloody solid lids!!!

photos coming tomorrow

[the_lone_wolf]

where's girth?

post the pic of me leaving A&E you got dude;)

[steve.w]

Ouch, GWS all the best fella

[lily]

Glad your ok..... Sorry we couldn't help more! Like fix it! Girth is still here said he will post he picture when he gets home..... (as I'm on my phone and can't upload pics)

I did try and get home in time to say bye but you had already left

Hope the break heals quick!

x

[ThEGr33k]

Sorry to hear this! I cant see the pic's so I guess its the 675? Hope you can get something sorted with it soon!

Take care!

[the_lone_wolf]

Glad your ok..... Sorry we couldn't help more! Like fix it! Girth is still here said he will post he picture when he gets home..... (as I'm on it phone and can't upload pics)

I did try and get home in time to say bye but you had already left

Hope the break heals quick!

x

you guys did more than i could ask for:cool:

[cymroboi]

get well soon m8 ,sry to hear about about the bike m8 glad your ok !!

[Tim in Belgium]

GWS, could have been a lot worse.

[missyburd]

Ouch at that road sign! :shock: Real shame about the bootiful bike, looking very sorry for itself. Yet another shining example of the good hearts of the .org (and their family members ;-)), really hope you recover most speedily #hug#! That rough tarmac looks horrid too :-(

[thedonal]

Get well soon TLW. Sorry to hear this, but glad you walked away from a collision with a roadsign!

[Holdup]

You are very lucky especially after seeing what you have done to that sign! glad your ok, i thought the bike would have a lot more damage than that.

[Wideboy]

tut hmmm, seem to remember saying something along the lines of "shiney side up you tool" ;)

glad your ok'ish mate :)

BTW might want to get rid of the photo's encase the council chase you for money to repair it

[BanditPat]

At least your ok and you showed that sign who's who

[the_lone_wolf]

tut hmmm, seem to remember saying something along the lines of "shiney side up you tool" ;)

Touché:smt043

[gettin2dizzy]

Ah, that's ****ty :(

On the other hand (not the broken one ;) ) at least you can get yourself a proper Triumph now :thumbsup:

[Wideboy]

how much you reckon it going to cost? must say it doesn't look like it has as much damage as you say it has

[the_lone_wolf]

how much you reckon it going to cost?

my excess tbh, i think it's likely to get written off:(

[Wideboy]

oh dear :( i never got chance to have a go either

[captainsmelly]

Ouch dude, sorry to see that. Glad you're not hurt too bad though

[stewie]

Sorry to hear it TLW , main thing is you are relatively unscathed mate, GWS

[yorkie_chris]

10 points for having a spectacular one!

Shame about the bike, personally I'd stick a new side cover on it, flush the cases, change the oil and see if it sounds f##ked when you start it.

If it sounds alright then jobs a gud un and you can keep your NCD

[Bluefish]

sorry to hear of your ditch diving, good to hear you made an escape and hope you get your self and bike sorted soon, good pics btw.

[xXBADGERXx]

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7864.jpg?t=1241902152



http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7865.jpg?t=1241902184



Those Two wouldn`t be tall enough to hit the height barrier if they were on each others shoulders ;) .

You were bloody lucky there mate , kick back , have a beer and await the mickey taking once the condolences have died down .









Aaaah sod it I`ll start . Did it sound anything like this when you collided ?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/xXBADGERXx/badum.jpg

[Wideboy]

it could have been a sign you know ;)............. teeheehee

[jamesterror]

Sorry to hear about what happened.

Get well soon mate

[the_runt69]

Sory to hear of your off mate, Paws will be upset to see a Triumph damaged like that.

[Jamiebridges123]

Oopsy...

I was expecting the damage to be alot worse than that, especially when I saw the bike in the ditch.

Best of luck with the recovery.

Lol yeah I thought that till I noticed the bent forks in the pictures..

Looking at maybe £1800-£2000 to repair that I think.. GL with the insurers. You'll also probably have to pay for the sign you dented! :pig:

Then again the sign you hit is in keeping with your bike.
Joke i love the daytonas..



Consider yourself lucky.. you could have hit the sign badly and bicked the kucket.

[husky03]

bad luck dude- mend quick

[muffles]

GWS mate!

10 points for having a spectacular one!

Shame about the bike, personally I'd stick a new side cover on it, flush the cases, change the oil and see if it sounds f##ked when you start it.

If it sounds alright then jobs a gud un and you can keep your NCD

I'd be tempted to look at this route too, then you could repair the bodywork as and when?

Lol yeah I thought that till I noticed the bent forks in the pictures..

I thought he said the forks seemed straight?

[petevtwin650]

Phew, looks like a lucky escape TLW.

GWS

Hope you heal quickly. Should be a lot quicker than Fizz, cos he's an old 'un ain't he.;)

I thought the forks look bent too, but is that just a trick of the light in the two pics?

[genesismike]

GWS, glad your not too badly hurt. Good luck getting the bike sorted.

[davepreston]

when you do it you do it in style mate, anyone one you walk away from and all that
gws

[Tiger 55]

It would appear the bike ran along the kerb on the lhs of the front wheel and brake disc
What, like a tram? Blimey!

You seem to have retained your sense of humour anyway :)

Take your time and heal up right.

[kwak zzr]

oh, and HJC makes bloody solid lids!!!

ive crashed in 2 of those so can vouch for that, sorry to hear this bad news TLW but looks like it could have been very much worse, hope the hand heals quick and your insurance sort the bike out quickly for you,

one day we'll have a rideout where no one crashes :(

[lukemillar]

Hovis looking for bits to steal:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7872.jpg?t=1241902314

Is that you next to the breadman?

[nakedblue650]

Super styling bin action and you are still with us! Good work and gald your not too FUBAR'd.

Did any plod turn up? If not I would try to avoid the highway furnitures contribution as that could be a couple of grands worth through insurance!

Get back on the horse ASAP.

nb650

[the_lone_wolf]

thanks for the words folks

forks seem just fine, must be the pics that make them look bent

plod were informed but not much they could do unless we could id the car, another did just cruise past the scene and not even bother stopping to see if we were ok...:rolleyes:

aching like fook today though, really need a shower too, gonna go experiment with some duct tape and a bin bag...

[Mej]

nasty mate, you havent had the bike long have you, GWS!

[Lucas]

:shock:

GWS!!

[fizzwheel]

gonna go experiment with some duct tape and a bin bag...

:D I remember doing something similar

When you go to the fracture clinic ask about a waterproof cover that you can use in the shower for your cast. I got a leaflet when they put my 2nd cast on saying where you could get them from online.

IIRC they dont cost much money and it'll work better than the bag and duct tape will.

Might be worth a purchase if your going to be in the cast for a while.

[yorkie_chris]

Bin bag and a bungee cord worked fine to keep mine dry when I smashed my wrist up

[fizzwheel]

This is the website I was talking about :

http://www.protectacast.com/index.htm

[Ping]

Ouch! :eek:

Hope you heal up quick'n'easy and get back on 2 wheels with as little agro as poss.

[Seggons]

Wowzers that's not a pretty sight. Hope things come good for you TLW.

[Magnum]

I nearly had a tear in my eye seeing the pic of the bike in the ditch, but it looks fine! Not too much damage.
Sorry to hear about the off though.

[Speedy Claire]

I forgot how young, vibrant, and handsome you are :cool:

Oh and sorry bout the off, best wishes for a full and speedy recovery hun x

[the_lone_wolf]

I forgot how young, vibrant, and handsome you are :cool:

and that's after playing kiss chase with the road furniture;)

ta for the link fizzwheel, i'll enquire when i go see the docs tuesday...

[xXBADGERXx]

Are you giving us a "Thumbs up" there to say you are ok or is that cos you can`t bend them back down after the "Mad Vegetable Death Scramble"*




*Copyrite xXBADGERXx

[rictus01]

This was mentioned to me yesterday,but could find this thread when I looked last night, never good news, but as others have said, glad you weren't hurt more, shame about the bike,(was this it's first mainland visit ?), but wallet pain is better than physical,heart warming to see others from the Org come to your aid, GWS mate.

Cheers Mark.

[mister c]

Oopsy...

I was expecting the damage to be alot worse than that, especially when I saw the bike in the ditch.

Best of luck with the recovery.
+1

[gruntygiggles]

WOW TLW, Glad you're in good spirits and not too seriously hurt, although I'm sure the aches and pains will be plenty for you to deal with so I hope you have a swift recovery.

I hear what you're saying about the pics not doing justice to the damage. I just told STretchie that your bike looks like his did on first glance....not really too bad, but the truth was his was a write off with the top yoke completely snapped. It's amazing how much damage can be done with the exterior still looking fixable.

I think you're right about the driver.....probably not a clue what he/she caused, but good on the BMW driver for stopping and helping. Most people don't when they see that others are on the scene so good on him and good on Drew, Hovie and Lily for coming to the rescue. Hovis is going to get a reputation for being first on the scene at this rate!!!

At least you've got enough witnesses so shouldn't be at blame with the ins.

Rest up in the sun for the afternoon xx

[the_lone_wolf]

At least you've got enough witnesses so shouldn't be at blame with the ins.

i think that would be a long argument tbh, especially with no other party to get hold of:(

[Spiderman]

Poo, only just seen this.

At least you showed that sign whos boss! ;)

Hope it all heals up soon Wolfman.

[gruntygiggles]

i think that would be a long argument tbh, especially with no other party to get hold of:(

That's a bummer! I'm not that knowledgeable on bike ins. claims, but hope you don't get burned on it!

[the_lone_wolf]

Couple of shots of the leg, seems to have calmed down nicely...

DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF BLOOD

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7886.jpg
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7880.jpg

[gruntygiggles]

Couple of shots of the leg, seems to have calmed down nicely...

DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF BLOOD

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7886.jpg
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7880.jpg

Ouch! Thank god you're not one of the idiots that rides in jeans!!!

Hope it and your hand heal soon......can we see a pic of your bin bag and duct tape experiment?????:smt103

[missyburd]

What on earth is that in the second pic? Some sort of tattoo transfer? :confused:

[the_lone_wolf]

Ouch! Thank god you're not one of the idiots that rides in jeans!!!

Hope it and your hand heal soon......can we see a pic of your bin bag and duct tape experiment?????:smt103
haha, it's in the bin now, it did ok, plaster is dry and i got to freak out the dog with my bin bag arm

myc: the second one is the dressing they put on it at the hospital, looks and smelled like iodine, seemed to do a good job of calming it:cool:

[Spiderman]

What on earth is that in the second pic? Some sort of tattoo transfer? :confused:

PMSL! I see what you mean tho. Just a piece of gauze on the wound i'd guess.
Looks a little like a bullet wound in the second pic too, lol.

[missyburd]

PMSL! I see what you mean tho. Just a piece of gauze on the wound i'd guess.
Looks a little like a bullet wound in the second pic too, lol.
Haha ye I thought that too! I didn't think it could be a transfer but it does look like a flame thing, thought maybe it was a novelty dressing or something lmao. Glad it's doing the trick anyway Mr Wolf :D

[gruntygiggles]

haha, it's in the bin now, it did ok, plaster is dry and i got to freak out the dog with my bin bag arm

myc: the second one is the dressing they put on it at the hospital, looks and smelled like iodine, seemed to do a good job of calming it:cool:

You can buy iodine in bottles and I swear by it. I bet the dog loved it. I came out the bathroom the other day and rather than smile or call Saffie up to say hello, I just stood and stared at her.....he freaked out and came to (play) attack me. They're so funny!!!

[Rich]

Truely gutted for you but could have been alot worse. GWS TLW.

[G]

i think that would be a long argument tbh, especially with no other party to get hold of:(

And to be fair you said 'right on the white line'...........not over it, it may have caused you to stand the bike up, but being 'right on the white line' is not illegal or reason for someone else to be at fault.

[Speedy Claire]

What on earth is that in the second pic? Some sort of tattoo transfer? :confused:


lol.. it`s inadine.

Is excellent at "drying out" wounds and also contains anti biotic properties. Is a bit daft just covering it with gauze tho or did they have an adhesive dressing on it? the wound needs to be occluded to minimise the risk of infection!

Keep an eye on it LW and if it becomes red, inflamed or starts to stink go see your GP for a quick course of anti biotics.

[the_lone_wolf]

lol.. it`s inadine.

Is excellent at "drying out" wounds and also contains anti biotic properties. Is a bit daft just covering it with gauze tho or did they have an adhesive dressing on it? the wound needs to be occluded to minimise the risk of infection!

Keep an eye on it LW and if it becomes red, inflamed or starts to stink go see your GP for a quick course of anti biotics.

thanks claire, the photo is of my own ham-fisted dressing attempt being removed

they put that inadine on it an then covered it with a similar type of thing

i'll be watching it closely for any sign of infection for sure!!!

[xXBADGERXx]

<------- Pokes Wolfies leg

[the_lone_wolf]

<------- Pokes Wolfies leg

OI, stop that:p

More photos...

Back home:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7887.jpg

Battered LHS fairing:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7890.jpg

Bent shift lever, gearbox shifts fine:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7889.jpg

Bashed casing:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7888.jpg

Bent clutch lever, broken steering damper:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7891.jpg?t=1241964473

Broken front subframe:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7893.jpg

Bent brake lever and RHS fairing:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7895.jpg

Scuffed wheel and brake disc:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7902.jpg

Sheared tank mounting bolt:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7894.jpg

The X-Ray:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7898.jpg

My helmet:

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7900.jpg

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/MM09%20Crash/DSCF7901.jpg

[xXBADGERXx]

Damage to casing looks superficial to me Wolfie , they may repair that bike from the looks of it . If the centre of the casing was dinged right in they wouldn`t take a chance on it being good but I bet a pound to a pinch of Horsepooh that somebody would get that from a breakers yard and have it back on the road in under a day .

Nice "Snick" on the X-Ray there laddo :)

[the_lone_wolf]

Damage to casing looks superficial to me Wolfie , they may repair that bike from the looks of it . If the centre of the casing was dinged right in they wouldn`t take a chance on it being good but I bet a pound to a pinch of Horsepooh that somebody would get that from a breakers yard and have it back on the road in under a day .
Drew found the rest on the case inside the engine in bits, so if it was spinning when it smashed it might have done some damage

If it looks OK i'd be tempted to look at buying it back and seeing what I can do...

[Raf]

Ouch! However, judging by the damage to the sign post you were lucky for not hitting it.

Frankly, I'd say it is probably a fair bet that the engine is pretty much gone, don't bother buying it back and move on. Mind you, it did look mostly OK from one of the photos until you started showing the real damage.

GWS.

[xXBADGERXx]

Drew found the rest on the case inside the engine in bits, so if it was spinning when it smashed it might have done some damage

If it looks OK i'd be tempted to look at buying it back and seeing what I can do...
Are the edges of the remaining pieces all chewed up or do they just look like they were snapped off clean ? , Rick bought a GSX1400 with similar damage to it and that was fine after a flush out and test .

[the_lone_wolf]

Ouch! However, judging by the damage to the sign post you were lucky for not hitting it.

but i did hit it... or more accurately; head butted it:eek:

just realised that the coils you can see inside the engine are the stator, the flywheel is the bit that spins and there's not enough room for any of the bits of casing to have got between it and the casing, i suspect, as badger just mentioned, it could be a flush and rebuild with a new stator/flywheel. ECU didn't record any errors

[G]

:( Looks a little bit worse than the first pics showed, I'd buy it back and make it a track slag........that trailor is awsome by the way (jealous)

[yorkie_chris]

but i did hit it... or more accurately; head butted it:eek:

just realised that the coils you can see inside the engine are the stator, the flywheel is the bit that spins and there's not enough room for any of the bits of casing to have got between it and the casing, i suspect, as badger just mentioned, it could be a flush and rebuild with a new stator/flywheel. ECU didn't record any errors

ECU doesn't have a sensor for bits of alloy flying round the engine :-P

But, worst case scenario is it's chomped some bits through the gearbox. Or, the impact to the rotor has bent the crank.

Flush the oil, see if it looks straight when you spin it over (wit plugs out).

[the_lone_wolf]

ECU doesn't have a sensor for bits of alloy flying round the engine :-P

i know that:p

i was kind of expecting at least the tip switch to have gone, the engine wasn't running when we landed in the ditch so something must've stopped it:(

[yorkie_chris]

If you've cycled the killswitch or ignition since then would it even have stored the fault code?

[gettin2dizzy]

I don't know what fault code 'threw it upside down in a ditch' would be :rolleyes:

[the_lone_wolf]

If you've cycled the killswitch or ignition since then would it even have stored the fault code?
i think it takes three heat cycles to clear the ecu errors on the 675.

would seem a little redundant to have a fault id system that forgets what the problem was though:confused:

[yorkie_chris]

Which way did you end up facing? Perhaps a c69?

[Shellywoozle]

Awww sorry to be reading this TLW. So glad you not too badly hurt and I wish you a speeeeedy recovery :kiss:

Woozle hugs from Woozle Land winging their way over to you hun x

[the_lone_wolf]

Which way did you end up facing? Perhaps a c69?

:rolleyes::p

[xXBADGERXx]

i don't know what fault code 'threw it upside down in a ditch' would be :rolleyes:


00f 3ck

[gettin2dizzy]

00f 3ck
80085

[xXBADGERXx]

80085

t1d zup