Does anyone else have a love/hate thing with their bike?

[Jackie_Black]

So today I went out for a good blast on the ninja. I wanted to take it easy and just have some fun like i used to on the SV but the first 40 miles were awful. The bike hurts me neck, shoulders, wrists and hands and its sprung like a bucking bronco. So I picked up the pace a little and the result was the best 50 miles i've done in a long time. This leaves me in a real dilema with the bike, I tried to get a deal on a superduke but failed and feel I may need to replace it with something that doesn't completely kill me (Position wise). I don't mind taking a bit of a hit on a trade in (it was cheap anyway) but what do I get?

Will a street triple R, Z1000, sv 1000 etc handle as well or will I feel let down after having such a bonkers bike? I haven't got a lot of space for something massive like a big toury thing so it'll have to be no longer than a ninja or an SV....

What's the best plan here folks. Do i just keep the bike and enjoy the (very) good bits or is there something i'm missing that will be more fun?

I think I need something usable everyday that can also go like the clappers. But no sportsbike crouch and not stupid money....

[thefallenangel]

imo you should of test rode more before buying this.

And as for love/hate of bikes, i love my SV but hate the state its in from corrosion and crap, appauling finish.

[Jackie_Black]

yeah well I would have probably bought it after a test ride because of the go like a clappers factor. At the time i doubt I would have thought "but it's soooo serious". Probably just "Woo this flies I want it" it's only about 2k in you start to question your decision, lol.

[the_lone_wolf]

have you had the suspension set up for your weight and road riding?

[Girth]

Having owned both the SV1000S and now on the Striple, the Striple is much much more fun, this is what i have found and many others, easier to throw around and comfier than the SV1000S but not that much down on power than the thou.

Test ride is in order me tinks. Dont rule out the standard Striple either.

[Jackie_Black]

have you had the suspension set up for your weight and road riding?

I have to admit that no I haven't had it properly tweaked yet. But there is very little pre-load to take off and all the other settings are pretty much standard so i don't think i can make it softer. I know it has hi and low speed damping etc but i dont want to make the bike worse. I'm 18 stone kitted up. Perhaps i'm too much for it!!

[husky03]

but is it not the case with all ninjas that to get the best out of them you need to ride it pretty hard, if your not gonna it is time for a change.

[Jackie_Black]

Aye when you ride it hard you feel like valentino rossi. It's truly fantastic, no complaints. I'm mainly suprised that you can't just go for a pootle. It doesn't like it. Perhaps I just miss the SV's all round jack of all tradesness. It seems to irritate an car crash neck injury i've had for years too, Doh.

[yorkie_chris]

Get a big streetfighter, crashed -10R with renthals on if you want to stick with a kwacker or anything like that. Probably have enough left over for a suspension rebuild/valve and some go-faster bits too :-D

[xXBADGERXx]

Well you have the Striple to try , Kawasaki Z750 or 1000 , have you also considered the SV1000 with an LSL bar kit on it , I have the ABM kit on my 650 and GenesisMike has the thou with the LSL on it , makes the SV a very enjoyable bike to ride :)

Also second hand KTM 950 Supermotos are dipping under 5k second hand and you could get a good trade in on your Ninja towards one of those ... damn good bikes the 950 :)

[Girth]

I think with your weight you may get on with the SV1000, reason i didnt is i reckon is because im half you weight!

[Jackie_Black]

Get a big streetfighter, crashed -10R with renthals on if you want to stick with a kwacker or anything like that. Probably have enough left over for a suspension rebuild/valve and some go-faster bits too :-D

Is a Z1000, fz1, cb1000r like that or are they too soft? I think i'm looking for something with the insane kick of a supersports but a bit more civil to ride with proper bars. Probably why i was looking at a duke.

[yorkie_chris]

Dunno, I haven't ridden any of the above. But from second hand accounts no you won't get the bonkers nature.

[Demonz]

Is a Z1000, fz1, cb1000r like that or are they too soft? I think i'm looking for something with the insane kick of a supersports but a bit more civil to ride with proper bars. Probably why i was looking at a duke.

Tuono :thumbsup:

[Jackie_Black]

hmm, no bonkers. Perhaps if I go for a naked thou i'll be happier. Cos it will go like the clappers, have midrange and not hurt me neck. Gonna go and pester the stealers at the weekend...

[yorkie_chris]

That's not a streetfighter :-P (Re; tuono)
But yes, would fit the bill of "nuts"


Naked thou be nice, won't handle like your ZX6R though

[Jackie_Black]

Tuono :thumbsup:

What's a tuono? an aprillia of some sort?

[Demonz]

What's a tuono? an aprillia of some sort? Are you serious :confused:

[xXBADGERXx]

Correctamundo , nice bikes as well

[Paws]

I call my 675 my marmite bike as i have a love/ hate realtionship with her, i can go out and have a fantastic ride and then next time i'll ahte it-won't be comfy/ all feels wrong etc

[Jackie_Black]

If it's an aprillia I have to put it in the same category as a ducati. Desirable but pricey!! So I just can't have one. Unless they are cheap to buy run and service, lol.


Naked thou be nice, won't handle like your ZX6R though

I don't mind hustling my bikes a bit (i'm heavy it helps) but will require good handling when the mood takes me. If the Zed thou is mental it could be the one (new) or a second hand duke 990 if i can find one maybe. Too many bikes. All of them a compromise.

[yorkie_chris]

What about a big muscle bike then? ZRX12 or something? Or even look back a bit and build yoursen an EFE with modern running gear?
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5105/im0002061wp.jpg

[Jackie_Black]

What's that mentalist thing?

Looks amazing, possibly a little flamboyant for me. But has got me thinking.

From a bike I will require


proper stomp
Upright seatingness
reliabilitiy
a very slight and gentle nod towards practicality

From my extensive drunken net researchI can see that an FZ1 has 150bhp and may fit the bill. Although I reckon i'd like the bonkers nature of a Duke 990 more. One things for sure my previous love for 2 stroke-esque power deliveries has been ruined by the ninja slightly, so i can't get an RD350.

[xXBADGERXx]

That looks Brutal and Turboliscious

[yorkie_chris]

What's that mentalist thing?

Looks amazing, possibly a little flamboyant for me. But has got me thinking.

From a bike I will require


proper stomp
Upright seatingness
reliabilitiy
a very slight and gentle nod towards practicality

From my extensive drunken net researchI can see that an FZ1 has 150bhp and may fit the bill. Although I reckon i'd like the bonkers nature of a Duke 990 more. One things for sure my previous love for 2 stroke-esque power deliveries has been ruined by the ninja slightly, so i can't get an RD350.

Go to the "forced induction" section on oldskoolsuzuki.info and stay there until you start looking for parts on eBay. Then there is no going back muahaha.

[Demonz]

If it's an aprillia I have to put it in the same category as a ducati. Desirable but pricey!! So I just can't have one. Unless they are cheap to buy run and service, lol.



I don't mind hustling my bikes a bit (i'm heavy it helps) but will require good handling when the mood takes me. If the Zed thou is mental it could be the one (new) or a second hand duke 990 if i can find one maybe. Too many bikes. All of them a compromise.


Have a read up on them as you may get a surprise. Price and durability compare as well as what you currently have. It's popular with big folks as its a tall bike with bags of torques and more power than you will ever be able to use on the road.

[Jackie_Black]

It looks a little too hardcore for me.
Would definitely show me up for the crap rider I am.

That bonkers thing chris posted, not the tuono.

I've actually been recomended one. but there is no aprilia parts backing up north. Although that may be standard as they are italian i believe or spanish.

[injury_ian]

I found the FZ1 a little bland, immensley fast etc. but a tad bland.

Trumpet 1050 Sprint ST?

[Demonz]

It looks a little too hardcore for me.
Would definitely show me up for the crap rider I am.

:lol: or turn you into a riding god ;)

[yorkie_chris]

It looks a little too hardcore for me.
Would definitely show me up for the crap rider I am.

That bonkers thing chris posted, not the tuono.

I've actually been recomended one. but there is no aprilia parts backing up north. Although that may be standard as they are italian i believe or spanish.

Nah.

25 years old frame... so if anyone is quicker than you... hey, it's an antique.

But if you overtake anyone then you have tamed the beast of the katana and are a riding god!

And they're a very cool bike, will get more attention than some brand new plastic rocket any day!

[Jackie_Black]

Is that a Katana?

My favourite top trumps bike as a child.

Chris you're definitely my type of E-bay bike nutter and I'm just glad I don't have a garage so I can't be convinced by people like you to turbocharge six cylinder 70's kawasakis.

[Jackie_Black]

I found the FZ1 a little bland, immensley fast etc. but a tad bland.

Trumpet 1050 Sprint ST?

So an FZ1 is bland. well thats narrowing it down to a barking orange crosser with sticky tyres and a silly engine. Maybe the Z1000 is good, its 30 brake down on an fz1 though and thats just unnacceptable. :D

Is the trumpet sprint the vfr type one?

[injury_ian]

one mans chalk is another mans cheese, try one!

Sprint ST is the VFR but a little sportier.

[yorkie_chris]

Is that a Katana?

My favourite top trumps bike as a child.

Chris you're definitely my type of E-bay bike nutter and I'm just glad I don't have a garage so I can't be convinced by people like you to turbocharge six cylinder 70's kawasakis.

Lol! You'll have me blushing...

Tell yu what, I've got a garage. Hows about you give me a big pile of money and I build you one :-P

[Jackie_Black]

hmm, vfr sport.

May still be a little unbonkers. I definitely need the bonkers. But a bit more sitting straight will be needed for long stints.

I have to admit the tuono gets an amazing write up but the KTM's seem to get even more praise...

If only I had room for more than one bike!!

[Jackie_Black]

Lol! You'll have me blushing...

Tell yu what, I've got a garage. Hows about you give me a big pile of money and I build you one :-P

I can't (yet). Have to try and buy a house. But you sound as mental as the mechainic I use (2 stroke enthusiast who collects rd500's, rd 350's etc) so as soon as I have some spare money you can make me something turboed scary and 80's then i'll ride it once and sell it (cos i'll be scared)

[Demonz]

I have to admit the tuono gets an amazing write up but the KTM's seem to get even more praise...

TBH either of these would work for me. I have a Tuono but lust over the sduke whenever I see/hear one... :)

[Jackie_Black]

Well i've had a KTM before (250 enduro 2 stroke) when i was 17 and it was amazing so I need to go try and have a go and see about a trade in. I reckon a year old one will be cheap enough.

[ThEGr33k]

2001-2003 RSV. Sporty and great handling but the engine is sooooo flexible it can do pretty much anything you ask of it. Only thing is its a little heavy on the clutch.

Oh and they are SOOOOO good to look at.

http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4197&d=1242342709

(Also Falco worth a look :p)

[yorkie_chris]

So g33k, when he says "supersport bikes hurt my neck" ... you recommend a supersport?! Lmao!

[ThEGr33k]

So g33k, when he says "supersport bikes hurt my neck" ... you recommend a supersport?! Lmao!


Aye, but its known to be a lot less extreme than the modern breed. Lots of room! Obviously test ride is in order but id seriously recommend it as a comfortable do it all sporty bike. :smt005

[yorkie_chris]

Have you ridden one?

[ThEGr33k]

Have you ridden one?


No, but its the same position as mine. Ive sat on a few so I know this be true...no bull**** ha ha

Dont know who Aprilia were trying to kid with the Falco tbh... Its an RSV with a nice looking frame :D

[orose]

Sprint ST is bland and has crap lights...

[ThEGr33k]

Sprint ST is bland and has crap lights...


LOL. Which one? I really like the look of the 1050, my old man likes his 955i a fair bit too. :)

[Girth]

No, but its the same position as mine. Ive sat on a few so I know this be true...no bull**** ha ha

Dont know who Aprilia were trying to kid with the Falco tbh... Its an RSV with a nice looking frame :D


And Rover 100 dash............ :rolleyes:

[ThEGr33k]

And Rover 100 dash............ :rolleyes:

ha ha, it works. Besides who buys a bike "because the dash looks great!"? You can always mod it anyway with nice back lighting and different back colouring and Carbon surround, if you want a sexy dash. :rolleyes:

(Oh and the RSV has the same dash. ;))

[Jase22]

In answer to the thread title, no. My bike is awesome.

[ThEGr33k]

In answer to the thread title, no. My bike is awesome.

Glad your still loving it man! :D Same for me. Happy days!!! :cool:

[Jase22]

Glad your still loving it man! :D Same for me. Happy days!!! :cool:

Yep, brought back the smile factor for me when I bought it. (We need to get out at some point again also, but I won't de-rail.)

[Jamiebridges123]

As with any love, you have to take the good with the bad. So I'll take my bikes foibiles and I love it mainly. Apart from when I can't pull away from 2mph in 2nd but that's probably me not used to it yet (even after 1250 miles :))

[BigFootIsBlurry]

Apart from when I can't pull away from 2mph in 2nd but that's probably me not used to it yet (even after 1250 miles :))

You should try 1st then, works a treat. HTH

[BigFootIsBlurry]

Apart from when I can't pull away from 2mph in 2nd but that's probably me not used to it yet (even after 1250 miles :))

You should try 1st then, works a treat. HTH

[Amanda M]

If you want something fun, with a decent riding position and ability to be a bit sensible sometimes I don't think you'd go far wrong with a Z1000. I had one but I just didn't get on with it - not because of the bike, but me lacking confidence at the time. Everyone else that rode it loved it and said it was proper daft. It'd bimble about nice and gently if you wanted it to, but my god would it shift if you gave it the berries :smt120

[Amanda M]

If you want something fun, with a decent riding position and ability to be a bit sensible sometimes I don't think you'd go far wrong with a Z1000. I had one but I just didn't get on with it - not because of the bike, but me lacking confidence at the time. Everyone else that rode it loved it and said it was proper daft. It'd bimble about nice and gently if you wanted it to, but my god would it shift if you gave it the berries :smt120

[Amanda M]

If you want something fun, with a decent riding position and ability to be a bit sensible sometimes I don't think you'd go far wrong with a Z1000. I had one but I just didn't get on with it - not because of the bike, but me lacking confidence at the time. Everyone else that rode it loved it and said it was proper daft. It'd bimble about nice and gently if you wanted it to, but my god would it shift if you gave it the berries :smt120

[Amanda M]

If you want something fun, with a decent riding position and ability to be a bit sensible sometimes I don't think you'd go far wrong with a Z1000. I had one but I just didn't get on with it - not because of the bike, but me lacking confidence at the time. Everyone else that rode it loved it and said it was proper daft. It'd bimble about nice and gently if you wanted it to, but my god would it shift if you gave it the berries :smt120

[Amanda M]

If you want something fun, with a decent riding position and ability to be a bit sensible sometimes I don't think you'd go far wrong with a Z1000. I had one but I just didn't get on with it - not because of the bike, but me lacking confidence at the time. Everyone else that rode it loved it and said it was proper daft. It'd bimble about nice and gently if you wanted it to, but my god would it shift if you gave it the berries :smt120

[Jackie_Black]

It's good to see my drunken thread making skill are still strong.
I've woke up with an even sorer neck than I had last night. So i'm definitely experiencing more of the hate bit at the moment.

I'll try and get a test ride on a Zed 1000 and a Street triple as soon as possible. Then i'll probably buy a year old superduke with nackered head bearings.

[Mej]

zx12r

[Amanda M]

Sorry mods - can someone delete the repeat posts from me please. It all went a bit pear shaped this morning when I was trying to post :confused:

Thanks
x

[Jackie_Black]

zx12r

Is that not still all crouched up?

[orose]

LOL. Which one? I really like the look of the 1050, my old man likes his 955i a fair bit too. :)

This was a 1050 on an 08 plate. Don't get me wrong, it was a very capable machine - it just wasn't very exciting while it did it. The lights weren't giving me any forward vision though, so they're a major downside.

[gettin2dizzy]

I'll try and get a test ride on a Zed 1000 and a Street triple as soon as possible. Then i'll probably buy a year old superduke with nackered head bearings.
If you're keen on the street, test the speed too. At 18 stone you'll appreciate the extra grunt.

[Luckypants]

This was a 1050 on an 08 plate. Don't get me wrong, it was a very capable machine - it just wasn't very exciting while it did it. The lights weren't giving me any forward vision though, so they're a major downside.

VFR still wins then! :p

I love my VFR, it does everything I want it to so well. Lacks a bit in the power stakes, but can hussle with most of them. Recent MM2 ride had no problem keeping up with sportier machinery (until it was a drag race). The VTEC gives the engine that 'sports bike howl' if that is your thing. Only thing I'd like is less weight and some more power.

[ThEGr33k]

Only thing I'd like is less weight and some more power.

Falco :p

They do really need a bigger capacity VFR with less weight... Only thing is this new one looks proper dog ugly, the exhaust looks as big as the bike. Bah!!!!

Whats gone wrong with Honda? They seem to have lost the plot to be honest! :smt018

[yorkie_chris]

If you're keen on the street, test the speed too. At 18 stone you'll appreciate the extra grunt.

Street will be way too small for you at 18 stone they're tiny.

[ThEGr33k]

Street will be way too small for you at 18 stone they're tiny.


http://www.deathmonkey.org/attachment/0d6ba42a30a30d6d1b8314f136fb6860/60d566553badef99096b12fb794a3f7a

He he he. :cyclopsani:

[Luckypants]

Falco :p

Tried one, bought the VFR in preference. :cool:

[ThEGr33k]

Tried one, bought the VFR in preference. :cool:


Ha ha, fair enough. Out of interest what didnt you like? I got to admit stock set-up is a bit crappy :( Lower the front raise the rear changes the bike all together. :D

[fizzwheel]

Definately, I have a very love hate relationship with Liz's Ducati.

I love it when I'm on an open road with no traffic thats full of sweeping bends that link from one corner into the next where you can set the bike and just let it have its head

I hate it when

I try and start it as theres a specific sequence of events that you need to go through to get it to start.
When its hot as the underseat exhausts get very hot
When I ride it around town as first gear is very tall and it has naff all steering lock.
When I try to pootle on it as it doesnt like it needs to be ridden in a focused way
When I look in the mirrors and cant see sh*te in them.

I love my GSXR I works brililantly in every single situation I can tour on it, I can ride it fast, I can ride it slow, it works on all types on roads and situations.

But compared to the Ducati it feels a litlte souless, its like the things that get on my nerves with the Ducati are also the things that make it seem more human. Its imperfections add to the riding experience. It needs so so much more effort and concentration to ride it, I like the fact its not an easy bike to ride.

Weird...

[yorkie_chris]

Nah I like mine, sometimes it's frustrating when a mod isn't working properly, but that's all my fault for playing with it in the first place! When I'm riding it quickly, or just generally rsing about I love it.


But compared to the Ducati it feels a litlte souless,

Ahhh you should have got an oil-boiler.

[dyzio]

Falco :p

They do really need a bigger capacity VFR with less weight... Only thing is this new one looks proper dog ugly, the exhaust looks as big as the bike. Bah!!!!

Whats gone wrong with Honda? They seem to have lost the plot to be honest! :smt018
New one? :confused:

[ThEGr33k]

New one? :confused:


I cant find the info on it, was in Motorcycle news. If they know what they are on about its suposed to be a 1200cc VFR apparently...

We will see. :rolleyes:

[stewie]

Ive gone form love to hate and back to love with the daytona, loved it when I first got it , great handling, quirky looks, fast as a very fast thing, then for some reason I started to struggle with the seat height and quickly lost my confidence in her, now after a bit of soul searching, I have had the bike lowered by 35mm and its back to love again, its firmed up the suspension a bit and it turns in a bit quicker but its so much more fun now, I even occasionally ride the bloody thing ;)

[Sudoxe]

I'll try and get a test ride on a Zed 1000 and a Street triple as soon as possible. Then i'll probably buy a year old superduke with nackered head bearings.

Try the speed triple. It's power delivery is similar to that of the superduke. The older ones are quite cheap too.

Bonkers power - Yep
Upright seating position - Yep
Rideable at slow speed - Yep, i commute in London on mine.
Handles ok - Yep
Reliable - As much as any other bike.

Dan

[plowsie]

Weren't the new VFR a 1200 V4 or summit like that? I remember seeing it too...

EDIT: I cant find the info on it, was in Motorcycle news. If they know what they are on about its suposed to be a 1200cc VFR apparently...

We will see. :rolleyes:

Missed this, sorry.

[Jackie_Black]

So Speed triple, Z1000 or a superduke is it.

Kawasaki newcastle will laugh at me when I ask for a trade in price on a 4 month old ninja.

[dyzio]

I cant find the info on it, was in Motorcycle news. If they know what they are on about its suposed to be a 1200cc VFR apparently...

We will see. :rolleyes:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/august/4-10/aug0708-alpinestars-casual-shoes/

[Jackie_Black]

I don't think I can have a VFR, they are well expensive and I don't think sports tourers have the brutal power delivery I'm looking for.

[plowsie]

Brutal Power - TLR :twisted:

[orose]

VFR still wins then! :p

I love my VFR, it does everything I want it to so well. Lacks a bit in the power stakes, but can hussle with most of them. Recent MM2 ride had no problem keeping up with sportier machinery (until it was a drag race). The VTEC gives the engine that 'sports bike howl' if that is your thing. Only thing I'd like is less weight and some more power.

Hmm... it wasn't incapable, it just wasn't interesting or engaging doing it. I'd love to compare a closer match, like a VFR, but I've only got the GSXR and what I can remember from my SV to go on.

[yorkie_chris]

And there isn't much that will feel exciting compared to a GSXR1000

[gettin2dizzy]

I don't think I can have a VFR, they are well expensive and I don't think sports tourers have the brutal power delivery I'm looking for.
MCN have 'new' pictures of the VFR every bloody week :rolleyes: Remember it was going to be a 1000 cc V5 at one point? :lol:

The VFR has to be down on power, otherwise its fireblade would have to be super super special as not to compete with each other. Likewise with the SV and GSXR600; it's all about maximum profit.
I cant find the info on it, was in Motorcycle news. If they know what they are on about its suposed to be a 1200cc VFR apparently...

We will see. :rolleyes:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=130361

[ThEGr33k]

MCN have 'new' pictures of the VFR every bloody week :rolleyes: Remember it was going to be a 1000 cc V5 at one point? :lol:

The VFR has to be down on power, otherwise its fireblade would have to be super super special as not to compete with each other. Likewise with the SV and GSXR600; it's all about maximum profit.



Yep, you are more than likely right about the bikes! Explains why the TL's got the boot (among other issues of course) the SP's have been shelved etc etc. Japs dont like V2 much and so they got forgotten quickly.

Honda are supposed to be making a VFR to replace the Fireblade though no? he he. Might be interesting to see what comes of that! Better not be ugly like most of their bikes. :smt021



http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=130361

I dont get it?

[Luckypants]

I don't think I can have a VFR, they are well expensive and I don't think sports tourers have the brutal power delivery I'm looking for.

No it certainly is not brutal.:D

Greek, didn't like the riding position, especially the shape of the tank. The suspension seemed fidgety. I test rode both bikes over the same 60 mile route, back to back - the VFR seemed to flow better, was more planted and did not shake it's head like the Falco. Now as the Falco was second hand, maybe the suspendies had been fiddled with to mess them up. Other thing was it felt like it needed to ridden fast and I did not want that having just had a major off (was why I was looking for a new bike). I have since had the same Falco as a curtesy bike from the dealer 4 times, each time I felt I had made the right choice.

[orose]

And there isn't much that will feel exciting compared to a GSXR1000

This is true... I would like to see a big naked based on this engine, but they've already got the B-king and GSX14

[yorkie_chris]

Bah! GSX14 is a huge engine with little tuning potential. Oil cooled bandit 12/GSXR11 is a better motor.
B king is too big IMO.

Just crash yours, there's your performance naked!

[ThEGr33k]

Greek, didn't like the riding position, especially the shape of the tank. The suspension seemed fidgety. I test rode both bikes over the same 60 mile route, back to back - the VFR seemed to flow better, was more planted and did not shake it's head like the Falco. Now as the Falco was second hand, maybe the suspendies had been fiddled with to mess them up. Other thing was it felt like it needed to ridden fast and I did not want that having just had a major off (was why I was looking for a new bike). I have since had the same Falco as a curtesy bike from the dealer 4 times, each time I felt I had made the right choice.


May-hapse you did. I know everyone is different... Be boring if we wernt :p

Its pretty shocking that Aprilia did manage to screw up the settings on the falco out of the factory, might explain the not so great sales. Especially when the RSV did so well with the same equipement and dimensions, the difference is the falco's settings are all to pot.

Im guessing there are other bikes that are in a similar situation. If the TL was released later it might have been in the same situation, as it was it was the first sporty modern (at the time) V2 out of Japan so it got a lot of lime light.

Which brings me onto something else that shocks me a little, especially these days! Why cant the factory supply different springs for suspension so when you buy a bike so it suits your weight. Could also have base settings for them for certain weights. It wouldnt be hard to do really!? But thats a different convo. ha ha.

[Owenski]

I have days where I think "PHEW MADE IT!"
and other days where I just think "WOW this is what its about" and usually find myself miles from where I intended on going.

[yorkie_chris]

Just cost.

TL wasn't setup just the rotary damper is a total dead end, not even the suspension experts can make them work. The adjusters don't actually do anyting...

[ThEGr33k]

Just crash yours, there's your performance naked!

Was going to say the same thing! ha ha.

I guess if you want a performance naked its the new ducati thing Striple (big one) or Tuono? If there is a V4 tuono on the books soon then... WOW! :rave:

[ThEGr33k]

Just cost.

TL wasn't setup just the rotary damper is a total dead end, not even the suspension experts can make them work. The adjusters don't actually do anyting...


I guess thats in reply to me? Ill take it as yes :p

Yea you are right about the TL. That was still a bad suspension setup out of the factory. Ive read a LOT about the TL as I was considering one not so long ago, if they had made it with more oil it would have worked... But im guessing Suzuki was in a bit of a rish to throw it out the door. Bah.

[yorkie_chris]

Still lots of problems with those vane type dampers that linear doesn't struggle with.

The lack of effort from suzuki is shown with the total ease with which the aftermarket suspension firms produced a typical linear damper which work very well.

[ThEGr33k]

Still lots of problems with those vane type dampers that linear doesn't struggle with.

The lack of effort from suzuki is shown with the total ease with which the aftermarket suspension firms produced a typical linear damper which work very well.


Yea, this is too true. Just goes to show how a very decent, if not very good bike can be spoilt all too easily just from them (the factory) being shoddy.

I think they have generally learnt their lesson these days as bikes tent to be fairly well polished... Problem they seem to have now is with making ugly bikes. Sigh. :smt101

Anyway, ive hogged this thread, woops. Do appologise. :(

[fatneck]

take the fairing off yours, put some renthals on and away you go, comfy, handles and still fast as fook!

[Thingus]

I love the SV, exhaust gets me attteeeeention and i'm an attention ***** (wh0re is blocked O.O) on the bike, but the seat don't half hurt my ar$e... i can get really get pished off when i have to get off every 45 minutes, but i love it more than hate <3

If you love your bike you'll put up and shut up but if you like your bike then maybe you need some solutions :p

[Jackie_Black]

Well i've just been to have a look at the CB1000r. Had a sit. Felt very nice. The suspension for example actually goes down when you sit on it and the seats comfy. Liked the single sided swinger but then looked at the weight of it. 222kgs and only about 110 bhp. That is not enough, i'd get bored in a short while, altho it does look very nice. Deal wasn't bad either. 0% and I break even on my 4 month old bike:eek:

Its lost 2k from the rrp in 4 months, luckily i didnt pay the rrp for it.

[ThEGr33k]

Well i've just been to have a look at the CB1000r. Had a sit. Felt very nice. The suspension for example actually goes down when you sit on it and the seats comfy. Liked the single sided swinger but then looked at the weight of it. 222kgs and only about 110 bhp. That is not enough, i'd get bored in a short while, altho it does look very nice. Deal wasn't bad either. 0% and I break even on my 4 month old bike:eek:

Its lost 2k from the rrp in 4 months, luckily i didnt pay the rrp for it.


Its hard to say, 110 is probably a little more power than what you have at the moment, itll have a lot more torque too. If your going for that sort of thing though a Tuono is probably a better choice. Meant to be hella fun. :D

I think they are fairly nice bikes, the rear wheel though is not so nice imo. But thats just my taste. :rolleyes:

[fizzwheel]

I think they are fairly nice bikes, the rear wheel though is not so nice imo. But thats just my taste. :rolleyes:

I agree I dont like the back wheel, but as you say it shoudl have a nice dollop of torque to.