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Dicky Ticker
19-05-09, 09:23 AM
Why does it not apply to motorbikes?,after all a decent motorbike costs the same as a small car. Many people who work in cities and others on low incomes use them as their primary source of transport.
the_lone_wolf
19-05-09, 09:30 AM
because in order for the government to make a profit on each new car sold in taxes the value of the new vehicle must be more than ~£7000
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Biker Biggles
19-05-09, 09:35 AM
Because they want Nissan Honda et al to reopen their factories and start making cars again.They also want Ford Jaguar and Vauxhall to not close their factories.Whether any of it will work is another matter-----????
454697819
19-05-09, 09:37 AM
It wont...
You can already get thousands off... if you scrap your car is typically List price...
Cynic
blue curvy jester
19-05-09, 09:38 AM
The only cars its worth using this for is the small and alegedley 'heco' freindly things
ie £2000 off a £7000 car and whatt hey are hopeing is that people will trade in old smelly volvos and mercs and buy c1's and clios
you will get better than £2000 off for most big cars anyway so i can't see this actually working as expected
and they wont do it for bikes cos they don't like us (unless they run a £1000 if you want to swap for a small scooter or 50cc bike)
I can't see it being a big success because people with >10 year old cars aren't the sort of people to go and splash out on a brand new car.
Luckypants
19-05-09, 09:49 AM
I can't see it being a big success because people with >10 year old cars aren't the sort of people to go and splash out on a brand new car.
Agreed, plus the cost of such cars is likely to rise for those who can only afford 10 yo+ cars. If I was in the market for a new 'eco' car and had a nice little car about 5 yo I'd sell that private, buy an old banger for £500-£1000 to get £2000 off price of my new car. Many folks doing this will drive up the cost of 'bangers'.
cb5_keith
19-05-09, 09:49 AM
There's obviously going to be exceptions. I'm not sure if it will shift the amount of cars they think it will. But my brother, (19) has been driving an old golf diesel that was once my dads, then mine, now his, and has saved IIRC 2,495 on a new Kia Ceed. It would have otherwise gone to the scrap heap for 60 quid! It worked a treat in Ireland...mainly becuase the roads were fuill with dangerous, non-tested vehicles.
SoulKiss
19-05-09, 10:04 AM
Agreed, plus the cost of such cars is likely to rise for those who can only afford 10 yo+ cars. If I was in the market for a new 'eco' car and had a nice little car about 5 yo I'd sell that private, buy an old banger for £500-£1000 to get £2000 off price of my new car. Many folks doing this will drive up the cost of 'bangers'.
You have to have owned the "banger" for over a year....
Luckypants
19-05-09, 10:06 AM
You have to have owned the "banger" for over a year....Ahh ok, thought it was too easy! :D In that case cannot even trade in one of my kids' bangers.
A friend of a friend has bought two cars using the scheme - a new Scirocco - trading in a 1999 T registered Megane Coupe - a nice car with only 54k on it! What a waste! They also bought something else that I cant remember.
Totally agreed though - I have a 1998 BMW 316i Compact - its done 140k, does between 36 and 40mpg and cost me £800 - I am more than happy with it and wouldnt tuck myself up with loads of debt to replace it but I guess I am the sort of person this scheme is aimed at.
A friend of a friend has bought two cars using the scheme - .
It only started yesterday :shock: and already Ford Fiat & Honda have pulled out
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/19/car-scrappage-plan-runs-into-hitch-115875-21370889/
Scooby Drew
19-05-09, 01:29 PM
The other ereason that they wouldn't do it for bikes is that they are trying to increase volumes for the car manufacturers - bikes are not manufactured here, only assembled by the importers so they would being putting money into the sector for no return.
cb5_keith
19-05-09, 01:37 PM
It only started yesterday :shock: and already Ford Fiat & Honda have pulled out
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/19/car-scrappage-plan-runs-into-hitch-115875-21370889/
Its been running in scotland for a fair few months
The other ereason that they wouldn't do it for bikes is that they are trying to increase volumes for the car manufacturers - bikes are not manufactured here, only assembled by the importers so they would being putting money into the sector for no return.
Not even Triumph? :???: & surely others?
Its been running in scotland for a fair few months
I was not aware of that, thanks :)
timwilky
19-05-09, 01:58 PM
My neighbour has swapped in both of his cars old 94 corsa for a c1 and a 96 honda accord to a Xsara Picasso.
For them it has worked well as they had already planned to buy new cars so got a discount on their worthless wrecks. Daughter bought her fiesta last year pre registered and cheaper than she would have got with scrappage on new
Daughter bought her fiesta last year pre registered and cheaper than she would have got with scrappage on new
Thought applied to nearly new cars as well - not sure of the exact rules though.
Again, :???: how your neighbour has already done it :???:
timwilky
19-05-09, 02:03 PM
citreon dealer operating in advance of the official date
Ahhh, Citroen always give big discounts. I also heard Peugeot offering £4,300 scrappage scheme. Pi**es me off the Govt. is taking all the credit for this, unless they are taking the credit for bringing the Motor industry to it's knees? :shock:
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