View Full Version : Replacing the Daytona.
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 12:31 PM
I have much time to contemplate these days, life, poetry, the like
My thoughts turned to riding, and questioning the use of the Daytona on the road, it's sublime - the engine is perfect, the chassis is light, flickable if a little heavily sprung, the riding position is fine for me, but something bothers me, mostly that if you hit the redline in 2nd you're doing 100mph. I can't help but think it's pretty OTT, and would feel so much better utilised on a track
Absently mindedly browsing biketrader, with nothing other than a 100 mile travel limit and prices between 4-6 grand the only thing that stuck out was a smattering of RSV-Rs, but a quick trip to confused.com to get no quotes the right side of £1000 put an end to that idea
For some reason the big twins keep cropping up, and the Superduke came to mind, insurance quotes are good, £300 good, cheaper than the 675, I've always had a strange fascination with the "so ugly it's beautiful" looks, but don't know how well a naked bike would work out when touring, which is what i'd like to do
So, oh mighty org, what haven't I considered, do I buy a superduke and enjoy a naked life? Do i buy a VFR and cross europe, what about a KTM Adventure and do a "long way round the island" - or use the funds to track the 675, buy a van and a bunch of trackdays and give up riding on the road???
yorkie_chris
22-05-09, 12:35 PM
Superduke. Naked is fine long distance, you don't need a load of tupperware to cower behind away from a little breeze. Proper handlebars make chucking it about through corners a right laugh.
(Never ridden a superduke, but have ridden quite a few 'fighters and they're all far more fun than the sportsbikes they based on)
plowsie
22-05-09, 12:35 PM
Buy a VFR400 or another 400 that still can give you fun and possibly give you more chance of keeping your licence :)
Then use the change to sort you out for Trackdays :)
EDIT: But yeah the Superdukes, they are fit.
Bluepete
22-05-09, 12:36 PM
Get a Superduke, then tell me how ace it is 'cos I really fancy one to be honest. I agree with the "so ugly" idea, just like English Bull Terriers, I think they are cool dogs.
Pete
plowsie
22-05-09, 12:38 PM
Bit of porn too...
http://www.brackenracing.com/results07/donningtonGP/images/IMG_1165.JPG
ThEGr33k
22-05-09, 12:43 PM
Buy a VFR400 or another 400 that still can give you fun and possibly give you more chance of keeping your licence :)
Then use the change to sort you out for Trackdays :)
EDIT: But yeah the Superdukes, they are fit.
I agree completly. I really like the idea of the little VFR (im contemplating one for a track bike), you can thrash it and it is still not going "too fast" but feels fast. Happy days, oh and im pretty sure with suspension set-up it will go around a bend better than a lot of bikes! :cool:
The super duke is meant to be a great bike. Its a twin so natually im a fan. :eek:
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 12:46 PM
Buy a VFR400 or another 400 that still can give you fun and possibly give you more chance of keeping your licence :)
Then use the change to sort you out for Trackdays :)
EDIT: But yeah the Superdukes, they are fit.
i quite like the idea of the old 1996-99 ZX-7Rs, perhaps an older sportsbike, but then the repair costs of another drop would probably make it expensive
that pic makes me think, what about a road/track superduke...
**looks into the middle distance**
plowsie
22-05-09, 12:52 PM
I agree completly. I really like the idea of the little VFR (im contemplating one for a track bike), you can thrash it and it is still not going "too fast" but feels fast. Happy days, oh and im pretty sure with suspension set-up it will go around a bend better than a lot of bikes! :cool:
The super duke is meant to be a great bike. Its a twin so natually im a fan. :eek:
A ZX4R went past me this morning full chat, my oh my, that sounded fit, only to be followed by a vfr400/rvf400 (couldn't tell), my oh my, that also sounded fit :lol:
ThEGr33k
22-05-09, 12:54 PM
A ZX4R went past me this morning full chat, my oh my, that sounded fit, only to be followed by a vfr400/rvf400 (couldn't tell), my oh my, that also sounded fit :lol:
Yea, sounds very very good does the little VFR400, only really heard one in person though :( So they are pretty rare it seems which is a good thing in some sense, youll get some attention because of it.
Why dont Honda make a V4 600? Man that would be sex on a stick. Even id be tempted :p
the white rabbit
22-05-09, 12:55 PM
Bloke (maybe) selling a SDR on ktmforum.
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 12:57 PM
Bloke (maybe) selling a SDR on ktmforum.
yeah, he wants too much for it though, and it's going to be 7th july before i can juggle the insurance...
Luckypants
22-05-09, 01:04 PM
Yea, sounds very very good does the little VFR400, only really heard one in person though :( So they are pretty rare it seems which is a good thing in some sense, youll get some attention because of it.
Why dont Honda make a V4 600? Man that would be sex on a stick. Even id be tempted :p
Have always wanted an RVF400, because they are basically awesome! They still worth some cash, was looking recently and £2300 for a good one. I gave up because I think someone my build would look rather ridiculous on it.
TLW - Looks like you got little boy in sweet shop syndrome! :D
plowsie
22-05-09, 01:16 PM
I gave up because I think someone my build would look rather ridiculous on it.
Welcome to my reasoning on a sporty little 400. I would need one each foot!
ThEGr33k
22-05-09, 01:19 PM
Woo hoo for being a small git :p
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 01:20 PM
TLW - Looks like you got little boy in sweet shop syndrome! :D
hah, yeah kinda
just that for all the choice there's not much that ticks all the boxes:p
ThEGr33k
22-05-09, 01:22 PM
What about the Street Triple? A slightly less powerful version of the D675 engine so youll likely like it with nakedness so you will perhaps know when you are going quick.
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 01:25 PM
What about the Street Triple? A slightly less powerful version of the D675 engine so youll likely like it with nakedness so you will perhaps know when you are going quick.
for some reason it doesn't appeal that much:confused:
now the speed triple... that sounds interesting...
edit: it's not so much a self control problem, it's just that the 675 is a weapon that's wasted on the road, i rarely used 3rd gear and almost never got to 4th
plowsie
22-05-09, 01:27 PM
for some reason it doesn't appeal that much:confused:
now the speed triple... that sounds interesting...
Gramps has one and loves it, also he said its weird, he feels comfortable and the windblast doesn't feel as bad as it did on his Sprint 1050. He loves the Speed Trip. Again, there is the Speed four.
lukemillar
22-05-09, 08:28 PM
edit: it's not so much a self control problem, it's just that the 675 is a weapon that's wasted on the road, i rarely used 3rd gear and almost never got to 4th
Clearly not trying hard enough ;)
I can't stop looking at 250 2-strokes at the moment. While evrything else is scarce in NZ, there are loads of NSR's ans RGV's. RS250s go for stupid money, but the Suzuki's and Honda's are coming in at just over a grand (pounds). I can afford it but can't jusitfy it + I have no space in the garage.......
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 08:29 PM
Clearly not trying hard enough ;)
we don't have that many straight pieces of road here;)
TLW - Looks like you got little boy in sweet shop syndrome! :D
That what I was trying to think of saying.....if that makes sense.
3 perfect bikes......for 3 completely different purposes.....
a) Touring
b) Mental Hooning
c) Track playing
Bloody hard work choosing between them three :( I think no matter what you do, you will always wish you had done one of the other.....and will probably end up doing all three instead LOL
fizzwheel
22-05-09, 08:45 PM
Have always wanted an RVF400, because they are basically awesome!
IMHO one of the most over rated bikes in the history of biking,.
My brother had one. I rode it, I was left feeling distinctly unimpressed and failing to see what the fuss was all about.
In the spirit of recommending bikes you own ;)
4 - 6K should get you a nice tidy K4 / K5 GSXR 750. If you can afford the insurance, it'll do everything your 675 did, but in a more comfortable relaxed way...
4 - 6K will also get you Ducati 749S, not sure its quite a good a long distance scratcher as the GSXR but again it'll do what your 675 did and you get that wow factor that maybe the GSXR doesnt give, but the 675 did..
:p
lukemillar
22-05-09, 08:56 PM
Back to your thread, I'd definitely buy back and track the Daytona. You should get it for a good price, and puttting it onto the track is way cheaper than the road
Then I'd buy a Superduke :cool:
i quite like the idea of the old 1996-99 ZX-7Rs
That's 96-2002 on the ZX7R. And they didn't change A SINGLE THING of any significance apart from the paint colours.
Because it was THAT good.
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 08:58 PM
4 - 6K should get you a nice tidy K4 / K5 GSXR 750. If you can afford the insurance, it'll do everything your 675 did, but in a more comfortable relaxed way...
Not interested in an IL4 tbh mate, the insurance is identical, and no doubt they're superb and flexible bikes, but without wanting to cause offence buying a GSXR/CBR/ZR/R just feels like a resignation that you've lost the will to look for something more... interesting:confused:
maybe a ducati, but tbh i suspect it'll feel equally wasted on the road as the 675
the idea of another sportsbike is starting to seem like a worse idea the more i think about it, whereas the superduke idea is growing on me...
the_lone_wolf
22-05-09, 09:00 PM
Back to your thread, I'd definitely buy back and track the Daytona. You should get it for a good price, and puttting it onto the track is way cheaper than the road
Then I'd buy a Superduke :cool:
i'm liking this idea...
or...
buy a superduke for road and track, then use leftover moneys to get one of these to cart it around in:
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/volkswagen_transporter_sportline.jpg
fizzwheel
22-05-09, 09:02 PM
but without wanting to cause offence buying a GSXR/CBR/ZR/R just feels like a resignation that you've lost the will to look for something more... interesting:confused:
None taken, I know what you mean, it does feel souless compared to the Ducati but I really like mine and I find it a huge amount of fun to ride.
maybe a ducati, but tbh i suspect it'll feel equally wasted on the road as the 675
Definately will be, but then so's my GSXR... I think TBH any sportsbike is.
Having just bought a speed triple, it gets my vote. Fantastic machine.
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt133/Dacebane/Photo-0024.jpg
i'm liking this idea...
or...
buy a superduke for road and track, then use leftover moneys to get one of these to cart it around in:
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/volkswagen_transporter_sportline.jpg
Hard choice, I imagine a superduk on the island would be immence fun.....depends how much you really think you will use the 675 on the track I guess.
lukemillar
22-05-09, 09:30 PM
i'm liking this idea...
or...
buy a superduke for road and track, then use leftover moneys to get one of these to cart it around in:
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/volkswagen_transporter_sportline.jpg
Man, if I was still in the UK, I'd buy the broken 675 off you/the insurance company :(
speedplay
22-05-09, 09:56 PM
My bricklayer has a superduke that he replaced his ducati with.
His intentions were that it was going to keep him out of trouble as its a naked bike and he used to go everywhere flat out on his 998r.
The reality after I had a go on it is that its a hooligan!
It inspires you to open the throttle and hang on for dear life.
Its a great bike (I'm biased as I wont ride anything elsethan a KTM offroad now), fast, light and a hell of a giggle :D
PAPPACLART
22-05-09, 10:46 PM
Buy an 09 ZX10R and stick a middle finger up to society!!
That what I was trying to think of saying.....if that makes sense.
3 perfect bikes......for 3 completely different purposes.....
a) Touring
b) Mental Hooning
c) Track playing
Bloody hard work choosing between them three :( I think no matter what you do, you will always wish you had done one of the other.....and will probably end up doing all three instead LOL
Speed/Street triple will do the lot ;)
Plus you have the nakedness you yearn for, listen to the voices :smt023
but something bothers me, mostly that if you hit the redline in 2nd you're doing 100mph. I can't help but think it's pretty OTT,
That was exactly my thoughts after testing the 848.
I would be very surprised if you couldn't buy back the wreck & sell for a profit, so at the very least do that or keep as you see fit.
Sounds like go with your first thought of Superduke, it sounds like what you want.
Alpinestarhero
23-05-09, 09:40 AM
Bit of porn too...
http://www.brackenracing.com/results07/donningtonGP/images/IMG_1165.JPG
Unified, they all scream
chhhhaaarrrggggeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
Speed/Street triple will do the lot ;)
Plus you have the nakedness you yearn for, listen to the voices :smt023
Its an ok all rounder and can do all three......its far from perfection.
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