ECU 33bhp help.

[hindle8907]

My new Bike thanks to tony from the org...SV650n K6 i need an ECU for this bike can anyone tell me what the part number is or the model number ?

Some one on here is selling one here are the deails he has gave me
F8T95772
MGT061
6508

Will this fit ? there is one on ebay aswell here k3 upwards it says would this be ok ?
if you read the descripton on the ebay one it says It is important to note: TO BE VALID FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES this ECU must be fitted and certified by a SUZUKI dealer ?? i belive this is not true ?

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[hindle8907]

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[Kuze]

Ring up a garage they should know.

I use the rocket center in blackburn they're a suzuki dealer and very helpful i find!

[Kuze]

Gorgeous bike btw

[yorkie_chris]

My new Bike thanks to tony from the org...SV650n K6 i need an ECU for this bike can anyone tell me what the part number is or the model number ?

Some one on here is selling one here are the deails he has gave me
F8T95772
MGT061
6508

Will this fit ? there is one on ebay aswell here k3 upwards it says would this be ok ?
if you read the descripton on the ebay one it says It is important to note: TO BE VALID FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES this ECU must be fitted and certified by a SUZUKI dealer ?? i belive this is not true ?

I think ECU is same up to K7.

The insurance thing depends on insurer, tell them bike is restricted, ask if they need proof. 99% don't require any proof.

[Biker Biggles]

Not sure of the full legal stuff here,but I think you just tell them the bike is restricted much like you declare anything else on insurance.If it turns out you are lying then you will not be covered in the event of a claim.The certificate makes life easy all round,but doesnt actually prove the bike is restricted(you could remove it)any more than not having the certificate proves the bike is not restricted.

[Sally]

K3 --> K7 is the same I think.

[jamesterror]

I'm restricted and the woman said on the phone "do you have the A2 license?" I replied yes and she said "insurance valid from tomorrow, have fun and take care". :)

Out of 4 friends who ride none have been asked for proof of restriction, I believe they're with..

Bennetts (2),
Carole Nash,
MCE,
and I'm with Devitt.

[ChrisCaveman]

I have an ECU for sale.
Ping me a PM and we'll discuss there :)

50 squids posted and it's all yours!

[Lego]

I'm in the 33bhp club too... Done my insurance online, there's not even a question asking if your restricted :)

All you need to know is what model the ecu is off to know whether it fits. I think the K7 onwards isn't compatible, so K3 to K6 will be fine.
You can get a second hand one a lot cheaper than one from the dealers, but its up to you... I paid £50/60 for mine

If you are fitting yourself have a look at this thread:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=131382&highlight=swap+ecu (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=131382&highlight=swap+ecu)

[Jamiebridges123]

The restriction certificate isn't worth the piece of paper it's written on..

Just plug it in yourself and be on your way.

[Holdup]

They just ask if you are complying with your licence, but if an accident happens they may ask for proof, its worth asking if they will accept a dyno showing that it is 33bhp as well if you buy a second hand ecu

[Baph]

As I posted on your "never had a big bike thread" ... ECU model numbers:

K3, K4, K5 (European/Canadian), K6 (European/Canadian) have 32920-17G20. The ECU's on these models are interchangable.

K5 (Californian) and K6 (Californian) have 32920-17G40. This is due to random emissions laws in California.

K7's get 32920-17GD0 across the board.

K8 (European/Canadian) has 32920-17GC0, whereas the Californian version has a K7 ECU.

I couldn't find a microfische for K9's. A restricted ECU, I suspect is simply the correct year/location ECU loaded with a different map by Suzuki.

There is no model number for a restricted ECU.

You don't legally need the certificate to prove that it's 33bhp. But if you have an off and the insurance company are told, they will check.

[BBadger]

Strange thing is.
Most places didnt care apart from MCE who im with.
ECU was £50 off flebay then £50 or a dyno and print out. They do this to cover themsleves incase of an accident.

Say you crash and you dont have proof...then ur scupped and they will wash there hands of you in most cases if a restriction querey comes up.

Best bet is to play it safe.

Edit:
youve got a good bike there!

[hindle8907]

so should i just pay the main dealer 200-300 quid

[Jamiebridges123]

so should i just pay the main dealer 200-300 quid

...No?

Buy a 2nd hand ECU from here when they come up.... and get it dyno'd or something.... half the price. They'll charge you £80 just to basically remove the rear seat, unplug the normal ECU and plug the new one in..

[joshmac]

Strange thing is.
Most places didnt care apart from MCE who im with.
ECU was £50 off flebay then £50 or a dyno and print out. They do this to cover themsleves incase of an accident.

Say you crash and you dont have proof...then ur scupped and they will wash there hands of you in most cases if a restriction querey comes up.

Best bet is to play it safe.

Edit:
youve got a good bike there!
Strange that :smt102, I'm with MCE and they've never mentioned it, last year or this year. They must know you ride like a hooligan through central London mate ;):lol:

...No?

Buy a 2nd hand ECU from here when they come up.... and get it dyno'd or something.... half the price. They'll charge you £80 just to basically remove the rear seat, unplug the normal ECU and plug the new one in..
+1
There's nothing in the Law AFAIK that says you need a certificate, only that your bike has to be <33bhp. Anyway the restriction certificate would be the same as an MOT certificate in that it doesn't prove you bike is roadworthy, but that it was at the time of issue. TBH if the Police really wanted to know, they'd run it on a dyno anyway.
Get a second hand one and fit it yourself. It's a 5 minute job.

[thefallenangel]

Right for gods sake.

Buy restrictor off here/bay wherever.

Plug in yourself.

Ride.

Certificates aren't worth the paper they're printed on. In an accident or plod pulling you over give them the keys to your bike and tell them to dyno it. They have to prove you were outside you license not vice versa.

Anyone with any problems with this continue via PM because this thread does my nut in.

And if they dyno your bike demand new tyres as they can screw up tyres.

[Sally]

Agreed, don't pay a dealer £200-£300 quid.
Not needed, and you can get a 2nd hand ecu off here for around £50.
And you can do the job you'reself, not even a 5 minute job.

[joshmac]

not even a 5 minute job.
I was factoring in time for a brew ;) lol

[hindle8907]

But what if the bike was dammaged so bad it couldnt be put on a dyno and is all this just going to prolong my claim if i need to make one and possibly cause alot a hassle just for the sake of an extra 150 quid ?

i just want vaid insurance

[thefallenangel]

But what if the bike was dammaged so bad it couldnt be put on a dyno and is all this just going to prolong my claim if i need to make one and possibly cause alot a hassle just for the sake of an extra 150 quid ?


FFS they'll be able to tell by the ECU part number or by ripping the ECU out into a different bike.

I'll put it to you this way

£350 for an "offical" fitting and certificate. Drive round the corner and you put the original back in. What's the difference?

OR buy a cert off ebay

[BBadger]

I was factoring in time for a brew ;) lol

Thats what mums are for.:smt075

I have a feeling that the reason for MCE being abit off was becuse of my lorry acciedent not being resolved.

£50 ecu and you should be fine.
Even got some blank certificates if you really want. But IMO you might aswell follow the advice.
If they dont ask then you do not need to supply.

[Baph]

But what if the bike was dammaged so bad it couldnt be put on a dyno and is all this just going to prolong my claim if i need to make one and possibly cause alot a hassle just for the sake of an extra 150 quid ?

i just want vaid insurance

With ECU restriction, lets say you have an off that does destroy the bike.

The insurance company come along, remove the ECU, and find a spare K3-K6 bike, put the ECU in, and dyno test that bike. If that bike is 33bhp restricted, you're fine.

The restriction depends solely on the ECU, which is easily transfered to another bike.

[yorkie_chris]

But what if the bike was dammaged so bad it couldnt be put on a dyno and is all this just going to prolong my claim if i need to make one and possibly cause alot a hassle just for the sake of an extra 150 quid ?

i just want vaid insurance

They can't just "invalidate" your insurance. If their terms do not include you having a certificate then it will be valid as long as you have a license to ride the bike. Hell, if you're so bothered, get them to say in writing to you "we do not require a certificate of restriction so long as the bikes net power output is <25kW"

[joshmac]

But what if the bike was dammaged so bad it couldnt be put on a dyno and is all this just going to prolong my claim if i need to make one and possibly cause alot a hassle just for the sake of an extra 150 quid ?

i just want vaid insurance

FFS they'll be able to tell by the ECU part number or by ripping the ECU out into a different bike.
+1 again. There're not going to look at the certificate and just take that as proof. They'll check it's in there

I'll put it to you this way

£350 for an "offical" fitting and certificate. Drive round the corner and you put the original back in. What's the difference?
That was my point to an MOT certificate. It actually says on the MOT one "Warning: A test certificate is not evidence that the vehicle is in a satisfactory condition". Same concept applies to the restriction certificate. Only difference, I expect,is that FI International won't print that on their "legal requirement" certificate in case you saw through their bulls**t to get your hard earned cash.

Saying that, if it'd give you the peace of mind to let you sleep at night and you've got money to burn, then go for it. It's your bike after all...

[BBadger]

Saying that, if it'd give you the peace of mind to let you sleep at night and you've got money to burn, then go for it. It's your bike after all...

+1
Down to you in the end.
Play it nice and safe, or do what every one else does.

[yorkie_chris]

Have another rant about FI international. Last time I was up at local garage, boyo there says to me that it's a legal requirement to have a STICKER from FI international on the frame. I'm fairly certain this is straight out of their literature.
Wouldn't pi$$ on them if they were on fire...
FFS...

[joshmac]

Thats what mums are for.:smt075

I have a feeling that the reason for MCE being abit off was becuse of my lorry acciedent not being resolved.

£50 ecu and you should be fine.
Even got some blank certificates if you really want. But IMO you might aswell follow the advice.
If they dont ask then you do not need to supply.
Well yeah, or blonde wenches called emma ;)
It was the time lost when you drink it.. let's say 10 seconds a sip once you've walked over to the shelf it's sitting on, sipped and got back to work. It all adds up mate :) lol

[joshmac]

Have another rant about FI international. Last time I was up at local garage, boyo there says to me that it's a legal requirement to have a STICKER from FI international on the frame. I'm fairly certain this is straight out of their literature.
Wouldn't pi$$ on them if they were on fire...
FFS...
:smt043 Where do they come up with this crap?? :smt102 :smt070
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/331074605_fdbdf00b5b.jpg?v=0


Black line to the right represents the aforementioned FI International peeps on fire :lol:

[BBadger]

It was the time lost when you drink it.. let's say 10 seconds a sip once you've walked over to the shelf it's sitting on, sipped and got back to work. It all adds up mate :) lol

Maybe for you curvy boys ...ecu switch on a pointy is easier than a cup of tea and better;). (runs for the hills)

ECU switch and just ride sensibly is the way to go.

And enough slander about emma.... she cant even make me a cupa tea, the shame.

[joshmac]

Maybe for you curvy boys ...ecu switch on a pointy is easier than a cup of tea and better;). (runs for the hills)

ECU switch and just ride sensibly is the way to go.

And enough slander about emma.... she cant even make me a cupa tea, the shame.
Nyawww bless her.. time for an upgrade? :p:lol:

Takes longer than 5 mins to restrict a curvy. Well, it did for me the first time :lol:

[BBadger]

Nyawww bless her.. time for an upgrade? :p:lol:

Takes longer than 5 mins to restrict a curvy. Well, it did for me the first time :lol:

This is a whole nother convoation.

stop dre-railing ....god cant belive im saying that.:smt017

[hindle8907]

ok cheers for the advice guys when i get my insurance im just going to say i dont have a certificate but the bike is resticted. and if they want my money and say its fine ill ask them to send me a letter stating cheers !

[Jamiebridges123]

ok cheers for the advice guys when i get my insurance im just going to say i dont have a certificate but the bike is resticted. and if they want my money and say its fine ill ask them to send me a letter stating cheers !

Don't even mention it to them! Mine have never asked...

Don't mention it to them, if they want to know they will ask.

[yorkie_chris]

Don't even mention it to them! Mine have never asked...

Don't mention it to them, if they want to know they will ask.

I would ask to be sure.

Bennets, carole nash and bikesure were all fine with it...

[Jamiebridges123]

I would ask to be sure.

Bennets, carole nash and bikesure were all fine with it...

Been with 3 companies, none have ever asked for proof.

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah, but I still asked, as I'd rather know either way!

TBH if they had said yes I would have just printed my own off.

[Jamiebridges123]

Someone give me a fake restriction cert please ;p