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slloyd
15-06-09, 10:01 AM
We are in the process of changing our office mobile phone contract to 02, and the telling question is do we continue using the BES or switch to the iphone handsets.

I've not had any dealings with an iphone, and only what I've searched for on the web, so I wanted to know what pro's & cons are given between the 2 handsets.

What I've heard that if the iphone is locked, you are unable to see your email/sms notifications and the push email only updates every 15 minutes, and not like the blackberry where it is instant.

Anyone, gone from Blackberry to iphone? your comments would be greatfully received.

SoulKiss
15-06-09, 10:06 AM
Wouldn't touch either.

iPhone - locked POS thats all style, no substance.

Blackberry - what is so important that you need to see an email the second it is recieved and is it REALLY worth the back-end cost/hassle.

Any phone that supports IMAP/POP3 email can be set to check for new messages every x minutes and with large data packages available, the excess traffic this generates isn't a problem.

Me, I use an N95 which when I am worried about it, checks for email every 5 mins, when I am not, I manually update it.

But then again, I use the phone, I dont let it use me/run my life.

G
15-06-09, 10:08 AM
Blackberry for business.

IPhone for pleasure, if at all.

slloyd
15-06-09, 10:12 AM
SK; unfortunately Architects like Gadgets especially the guys in my office, and they have been using Blackberries without cause for concern - but it's when they go on "Client Day Outs" and the client pulls a iphone and says look what this can do...yada,yada,yada -everyone gets a bee in there bonnet and wants an iphone.

I keep trying to tell them it's not a fashion item - and the Blackberry does the job that is required.

Plus, with the NEW 3G iphone dropping on our shores on Wednesday, I want to be sure of my decisions against the iphone and/or blackberry

pookie
15-06-09, 10:29 AM
i have installed base of both BES and MS push email. We moved new users to MS as they could use their iphones. Configuration on the exchange server was simple and runs seamlessly alongside the BES. The top brass are still on Blackberrys. Why dont you suggest having it in parallel?

slloyd
15-06-09, 10:44 AM
pookie...that is one of the suggestions that is going to get mentioned just to put this issue to bed to be honest with you.

slloyd
15-06-09, 11:11 AM
pookie...do any of your users have issues with the iphone email push facility?

Sudoxe
15-06-09, 11:59 AM
I'd say MS Exchange push too. Then you can use any windows mobile handset along side the iPhone should you want to.

I'm not a windows person though, so my opinion might be bad. I got given a blackberry and it seems to work. It annoys the hell out of me though, and I would rather have an iPhone.

Dan

pookie
15-06-09, 02:22 PM
I know i was asked to support iphone cos the user wanted to go up the mountains skiing. I dont think they user is too bothered about the emails more just he wanted connectivity. Once setup it works the same for all the windows mobile phones

jans1971
15-06-09, 05:53 PM
iphone but wait another week the 3gs comes out , looks the nuts , iv got the 3g and cant say a bad thing about it .

Nostrils
15-06-09, 06:40 PM
The staff at work use the current Blackberry and all seem to use it well, easy and havent really said anything negative about the phone, just the IT department who dont have a clue (all the good staff have either left or recently been transferred under TUPE).

As for the iPhone, I use this for personal use and it has to be the best phone I have every had. A bit peeved about the 3GS coming out so soon, but it was expected but will download the newer software on Wednesday.

Does your company get a trial period to test the new phones with a select number of staff.....that way you might get your hands on a few of the phones you dont end up buying....

slloyd
16-06-09, 12:37 PM
Well the office can't decide, so we are going to run both in tandem iphones and blackberry - as it's a 2 yr contract. So will set them up and see how they go. I've been told the new 3G ones will be better equiped so will be interesting.

plowsie
16-06-09, 12:47 PM
I use a Blackberry Bold 9000. Tosh, that is all.

Love my iTouch, but everyone has got one so won't bother.

The new HTC is looking a good buy.

flymo
16-06-09, 01:49 PM
The iPhone is a far more versatile device although a little fragile. I've seen far more damaged iPhones with cracked screens than ever before with a BlackBerry.

There were some limitations with the iPhone Exchange integration if i remember from our testing, mainly in the area of calender sharing and booking appointments.

Blackberry works extremely well but very expensive infrastructure.

plowsie
16-06-09, 02:12 PM
The iPhone is a far more versatile device although a little fragile. I've seen far more damaged iPhones with cracked screens than ever before with a BlackBerry.

There were some limitations with the iPhone Exchange integration if i remember from our testing, mainly in the area of calender sharing and booking appointments.

Blackberry works extremely well but very expensive infrastructure.
Mate smashed his iPhone from dropping it from about 2 feet the other day, I constantly drop my phones, therefore this would be no good.

slloyd
16-06-09, 09:53 PM
There were some limitations with the iPhone Exchange integration if i remember from our testing, mainly in the area of calender sharing and booking appointments.

Interesting quote her flymo...can I ask what sort of issues were encountered here?

flymo
16-06-09, 10:00 PM
Interesting quote her flymo...can I ask what sort of issues were encountered here?

Cant remember exactly, I'll check my notes tomorrow back in the office and let you know.

krhall
17-06-09, 10:06 AM
Stick with blakberry mate, mine had a deep yellow water experience yesterday and after being rinsed and fully dried out still works!

flymo
17-06-09, 10:24 AM
Ok, as promised.

These arent really major problems but they were significant niggles in our opinion. The main drawback we found with the Exchange integration of the iPhone was that you cannot create appointments as you could do in Outlook, you can receive them as invitations and accept etc, just not create them.

We also found that if you had a recurring meeting, in Outlook you get to choose to edit either the entire meeting series or just the specific meeting instance. On iPhone you get no choice other than to edit the series.

So, Exchange support is probably better then Blackberry provides but its still quite a way short of being a full replacement for Outlook. Maybe the version 3 software will improve this over the next few days. Will report back as soon as I know.

amarko5
17-06-09, 10:41 AM
having used both phone i can concur the iphone is a much nicer device to use and is improving with every update.

these is an added bonus in the new software v3 that if the phone is lost you can delete the content remotely, yet to see how this works in practice, but it could be handy for businesses.

flymo
17-06-09, 10:43 AM
yet to see how this works in practice, but it could be handy for businesses.

Most business users of Blackberry already have this capability.

flymo
17-06-09, 09:05 PM
...and as if by magic. iPhone 3 software now includes ability to create meetings in Exchange calenders.

Sean_C
17-06-09, 09:32 PM
Mate smashed his iPhone from dropping it from about 2 feet the other day, I constantly drop my phones, therefore this would be no good.


My iphone has been dropped countless times, usually onto concrete or something equally hard and horrible, and from a few feet (I'm not that careful with it..). It's been faultless so far :)

the_runt69
17-06-09, 09:41 PM
My iphone has been dropped countless times, usually onto concrete or something equally hard and horrible, and from a few feet (I'm not that careful with it..). It's been faultless so far :)

My old Blackberry has been down the road with me twice, including making a blackberry shaped hole in my Hien Gerrick trousers, still works and has been nearly reliable, trouble is the service provider, Will only work at home upstairs and in the garden but not downstairs in the house which is due to Orange rather than the handset itself. Does all I want for work and more and as is provided to me by them have my N95(until I next upgrade) for my personal stuff.

sauluk
17-06-09, 09:54 PM
They're not in the same league, I've had 3 blackberrys (curve, 8310 and storm) and they're all horrific. Immensely frustrating, clunky etc. I had the old iphone and now have a 3g and they're fantastic.. end of.

If they don't take your fancy for whatever reason then get an HTC as they're the only other phone I'd recommend

Demonz
19-06-09, 12:27 PM
I just got the new Blackberry Curve for work. I am new to the BB fold and am finding it hard to get the best use out of it. Big, heavy and clunky.... I am pining for something smaller and light with the same functions - maybe better key functions... so will be ebaying it away. I think ill give HTC a go as not on o2.

Dappa D
19-06-09, 02:17 PM
I just got the new Blackberry Curve for work. I am new to the BB fold and am finding it hard to get the best use out of it. Big, heavy and clunky.... I am pining for something smaller and light with the same functions - maybe better key functions... so will be ebaying it away. I think ill give HTC a go as not on o2.

really? i had my new blackberry curve delivered yesterday for work...the 8900 version...not clunky, very light and i think its great personally...

if i wanted a clunky phone or a fishtank as my screen saver or other such nonsense then id consider an iphone....

Demonz
19-06-09, 02:46 PM
really? i had my new blackberry curve delivered yesterday for work...the 8900 version...not clunky, very light and i think its great personally...

if i wanted a clunky phone or a fishtank as my screen saver or other such nonsense then id consider an iphone....


Sorry - my mistake I have a BOLD. Curve was smaller but didnt have wireless and 3G IIRC. Bold is too big for me - width and weight.

krhall
19-06-09, 06:26 PM
just got a new one and can't remember where the setting is to pick up my entire inbox rather than just new mails - can someone remind me?