View Full Version : Oh dear, my village has gained an sv riding chav
I for one welcome peoples choice to ride an sv and have seen one bimbling around the village where I live recently, that of the turquoise pointy veriety, and I think the owner may have progressed from a moped on to the sv.
No problem with that we all had to start somewhere, but I've just been up the school to pick the kids up and he has cruised past the school on the sv wearing shorts and a skid lid and beggar all else.
Conclusion; chav.
Spiderman
30-06-09, 03:19 PM
I went out to the shops today in shorts, tshirt and trainers + lid. I'm not a chav but after riding into london yesterday in full leathers i decided i'd raide extra safe to the shops and not come home like a boil in the bag spidey.
The way you'll be really sure about your villager is to wait till it gets a bit colder and then if he's in a shell suit with a hoody over the top, you know.
thedonal
30-06-09, 03:23 PM
I rode into london yesterday evening with my bass strapped onto my back. By golly it was hot- thank God the rehearsal studio was air conditioned.
Even when it's effing hot, I'd still wear all my kit. I've seen plenty of litre sports bikes ridden by the barely clad in recent days.
always wear your firkin leathers.....................................
Whitehouse
30-06-09, 03:32 PM
I guess theres only one way people will learn and thats the hard way!!! theyll soon be wearing leathers in the summer when theyv had a dose of gravel rash!!!
always wear your firkin leathers.....................................
Precisely, I know it's hot, f****** hot, but I do think it's bloody ridiculous riding around in any weather with your nips out, doesn't matter how careful you ride that doesn't account for numptys in cages that could easily send you skidding down the road on your ar53.
conclusion; he's still a chav.
Spiderman
30-06-09, 03:35 PM
Well the drive thru i went to is only minutes away from me. If i needed to use a dual carriageway or fast road then yeh i'd wear all the gear but for this short jounreny i'm happy to take the risk.
Oh and i've had gravel rash before so i know full well what i'm letting myself in for should it all go wrong.
Amplimator
30-06-09, 03:43 PM
always wear your firkin leathers.....................................
+1 million-gazillion-trillion :thumbsup:
Well the drive thru i went to is only minutes away from me.
A ridiculously high percentage of accidents happen no more than a few hundred yards away from your own home, i personally wouldn't risk it for the biscuit (or a takeaway)
jus my 2p
Ampz
Edit: obviously i agree with the 'chav' part
always wear your firkin leathers.....................................
no
ThEGr33k
30-06-09, 03:48 PM
I felt naked with everything except bike trousers, I was wearing jeans and it just felt wrong. :(
Spiderman
30-06-09, 04:06 PM
A ridiculously high percentage of accidents happen no more than a few hundred yards away from your own home
yes, youre right there. Equally i could get hit by a bus crossign the road near me if i wasn't paying attention so if something is gonna get me, its gonna get me.
Oh and it was Burger King so arguably not even worth the risk :lol:
BanditPat
30-06-09, 04:10 PM
Wayyyyy to hot for full leathers went into town the other day with my leathers on and my lord I for off to meet my mates and within ten minutes I was drowning in sweat an almost passed out....I love you trackies and t shirt.and I have came off in jeans andtrainers still have re scars,but I would rather not pass out sitting in traffic or walking round town. I don't wantrowalk round town when it's 30 degrees in full leathers I would rather jeans and a t shirt and lock the lid to the bike. That way my mates don't get held up by me crawling along behind them.
Miss Alpinestarhero
30-06-09, 04:36 PM
No matter the weather, you should always wear your leathers. You never know what is around the corner and TBH, it just isn't worth the risk. You could be the safest and most careful rider in the world, but it is the actions of other idiots who could take you out.
Id much rather boil in my leathers than not wear them at all.
Spiderman
30-06-09, 04:51 PM
I read the above post and my mind wandered, i got lost in visions of a swety Miss A*hero.
What was this thread about again?????
;)
Draggin Jeans - simples..... I commute in 'em every day (no m'way or carriageways mind).
always wear your firkin leathers.....................................
or don't crash
I'd rather have my wits about me than cooking.
I wouldn't put leathers & helmet, gloves and boots on to ride a push bike at 30mph to the shops, so why go overboard on a bike ride it's like you're not thinking, not assessing the risk, not riding to the conditions.
Just plain stupid in my opinion to put complete trust in your protective gear and be uncomfortable on the bike.
(good vented safety gear is a different matter)
Wideboy
30-06-09, 06:18 PM
west end got one just over 2 years ago :p
Draggin Jeans - simples..... I commute in 'em every day (no m'way or carriageways mind).
+1 actually went out and bought a pair just to wear when it was really warm must admit do still wear jacket though.and if it is an good long run will still wear complete gear.
As far as I'm concerned it is too hot in London to wear leathers at the moment so I havent been out on my bike. However, why the uproar for everyone to wear leathers even to tootle to the shops when cyclists arent looked at twice when they fly past in lycra. Admittedly not travelling quite as fast but....
EVERYbody was riding round in shorts and tshirts today. I'll be ok, wont I.....:rolleyes:
Tim in Belgium
30-06-09, 07:22 PM
I cycle at 20+ mph daily in my lycra, came off the other day, gravel rash and scabs, back on with the lycra, after all the look is worth the skin sacrifice ;)
Shellywoozle
30-06-09, 07:34 PM
I guess theres only one way people will learn and thats the hard way!!! theyll soon be wearing leathers in the summer when theyv had a dose of gravel rash!!!
I was only 2 minutes away from home when I had my off, jeans and bike jacket = gravel scar.
Now whatever the weather my leathers come out, I did tempt fate with jeans the other day but it was in the back of my head .... the last time I wore jeans LOL
Thingus
30-06-09, 07:37 PM
I wore just my jeans the other day, that was th first time i'd ridden in anything less than full protection, apart from the couple of weeks that i wore cat boots instead of bikeyboots.
It feels good to ride with no protection but i'm aware an accident can happen any time :p
dizzyblonde
30-06-09, 07:39 PM
A ridiculously high percentage of accidents happen no more than a few hundred yards away from your own home, i personally wouldn't risk it for the biscuit (or a takeaway)
so true. My little incident was actually about four doors away.:smt009
I never ever go out with less than my draggin jeans and a proper jacket on. I never do trainers. If its hot I take out the inner linings of my jacket and open all the vents. I do feel safe with the draggins, but I'd never wear normal jeans. If you fall off in trainers, your gonna be sorry IMO.
The phrase 'always wear your ferkin leathers' is very true indeed, but I think these days theres a hell of a lot of textiles that are worth their weight
Tshirt, shorts, trainers, to me smacks of stupid chav c0ck that deserves everything he gets, its only my opinion, but I feel exceptionally strong about it.
Wideboy
30-06-09, 07:44 PM
depends on where im going, if it just nipping into city centre i wear jeans and for most things local i sometimes just where a t-shirt
stupid i know as i fecked up my right knee from a crash on the way to work all becasue of wearing jeans and my gear recently did save my life :smt053
Down to individual choice at the end of the day, isn't it.
For me it's a balance between protection and practicality (ie not wanting to pass out from extreme heat). If I was comfortable wearing full gear all year round, then I would.
But this week in London, especially on the TT, it's sooooo hot.
It's Draggin jeans, vented / meshy textile jacket (liners taken out, but still with armour), back protector and Sidis for me. Still bloomin' boiling though.
Naughty Spidey for just going out in your t-shirt though. You should have worn your cardigan. But at least you didn't go out in your slippers.
Well I guess most of us have, at some point, nipped to the local shop in jeans and t shirt or light jacket at least, when it's been roasting.
I have contemplated ditching the leather trousers for the last two days for my commute to work but can't bring myself to risk it and rather put up with the heat, but my original post was about the fact that the chav in question had neither jeans nor t shirt on, just a pair of shorts, which to me at least comes across as feckin stupid. And chav.
DavieSV
01-07-09, 12:11 AM
I have no leathers at the moment due to a confined cat incident:(
I'm currently wearing my textiles with all the linings taken out but I'm melting in the heat.
I always completley kit up before a ride because I don't feeel confident without it.
on the other hand , if I was out on my mountain bike, I would not be wearing full leathers, a full face helmet, gloves & boots to go for a ride in any weather.
so if you are going across town and not going more than 30 what's the differance?
Nobody on here leans out of their window and shouts "CHAV'S" at people on push bikes doing 30 down the road, so why shout at motorcyclists?
As a motorcyclist you can read the road and the upcoming dangers, you can make yourself to be easier seen than on a pushbike, so what's the problem?
I myself don't do it because I like to "ride", so once on the bike, even if I'm just nipping uptown, I fully kit up, because I never know when I might take a detor for a bit of a blast to clear the cobwebs
Whoa steady on fella, didn't say anything about shouting at the chav, just thought it wrong and thought I'd post and see what opinion was on scantilly clad riding (depending on gender, aye)
Maybe should put up a poll along the lines of;
Is riding a motorcycle wearing only shorts and skid lid acceptable?
a) yes, it's the best way to get a sun tan
b) no, it's chav and if you fall off you deserve all you get
c) keithd
DavieSV
01-07-09, 01:07 AM
Didn't mean to come across as harsh, sorry;)
I just think the statement needed qualifing.
You said he was cruising past, maybe fully aware of his suroundings and riding in a safe and controlled manor.
That's a bit different than hooning around which causes more concern for the people around him than himself, which I may may call more chavish than the first statement.
What's worse?
a. rider with shorts on, parting company with his bike and getting gravel rash
b. rider fully kitted (therefore with more confidence) exceeding the speed limit and endangering the general public
at the end of the day, you are riding a 170 kilogram weapon, it dose not matter what you wear, it matters what you hit
I went out to the shops today in shorts, tshirt and trainers + lid. I'm not a chav but after riding into london yesterday in full leathers i decided i'd ride extra safe to the shops and not come home like a boil in the bag spidey.
The way you'll be really sure about your villager is to wait till it gets a bit colder and then if he's in a shell suit with a hoody over the top, you know.
+1
"Chav" is being used as a generic derogatory term these days is it?
Spiderman
01-07-09, 08:36 AM
OK i have a confession to make about injuring myself when i went out on the bike yesterday in shorts and t-shirt.
I ended up injuring my knee, now if i'd had any of my proper bike trousers on that wouldn't have happened.
Did i fall off, or crash into the nearest something while too busy looking at scantily clad ladies walking the pavments?
no, my bloody knee caught the pointy edge of my grabrail as i swing my leg over to get on :lol: If any of you watch Family Guy...yu know when Peter hurts his knee and he stands there for ages going "ow, ooo" etc, well that was me yesterday.
So now lets all :laughat: :spiderman:
It's Draggin jeans, vented / meshy textile jacket (liners taken out, but still with armour), back protector and Sidis for me. Still bloomin' boiling though.
+1 - Draggin Jeans, summer weight textile Furygan jkt & A* boots... Only gets hot if I'm not moving. Luckily for me that's not very often on my commute.
When I go out to play it's morphin time....
Sorry but even when its hot up here - which ain't that often - its fuyll kit on every ride. I'm without back protector while i wait for it to arrive and still feel very naked without it. Yes is boiling - its not that uncomfortable and it give you an very valid excuse to kick up hell with the bosses because they don't provide adequate facilties for all modes of transport (esp when you are the only female in the workforce that rides any kind of bike:evil:)
however i have seen the full effect of wearing shorts and a lid when i was in london working and i will never forget the screams and the lovely pattern on the road left by the guy - and yes it was fatal at 25mph cause - blood loss and trauma:puker:
to me there is no excuse for not wearing proper gear - leathers textiles or dragging jeans (or the likes) I personally don't acknowledge them when they are about becuse they are normally young neds showing off.
as for wearing the proper kit on cycles - most of our guys do up here inc helmets.
gruntygiggles
01-07-09, 09:02 AM
I just cringe like crazy when I see people not wearing the right kit. I wear textiles as I don't have leathers yet. In this weather, I take the linings out, wear a pair of linen trousers and a cotton shirt underneath and the natural materials wick sweat away and keep you cool. When the bike isn't moving, it means I don;t get too hot and when walking around I just take my jacket off.......simples!
If you wear t-shirts under your leathers/textiles whick most people do, make sure they are 100% cotton. If not....you'll really feel the heat more.
I don't think everyone is a chav...when I'm riding, if I've ever got to do the 300yard ride to the garage then yes, I'd probably just keep my jeans on and use my jacket/lid/gloves/boots.
My big beef if seeing people, as I have a lot lately riding in shorts, t-shirts and trainers with their girlfriends on the back wearing a vest top, shorts and flip flops. When I started going pillion, I wore jeans, just bought jacket, lid and gloves and wore leather boots that I already had. My partner then said that it would be fine and he used to do stupid speeds with me on the back. I started to feel really uncomfortable with only having jeans on. I just wonder if these girls have any clue what would happen if they came off the back at 30+mph.......bye bye skin!
keith_d
01-07-09, 10:25 AM
I've done the road rash thing at push bike speeds and that's painful enough. I'm not interested in trying it at high speed, so it's ATKATT for me. (all the kit, all the time)
That being said, if you want to ride a 1000cc sports bike in shorts and a t-shirt that's fine, providing you're not expecting other people to sweep you off the tarmac when it goes wrong.
In the end, there's no cure for stupidity, but nature does provide an incentive not to screw up again - it's called pain!
muffles
01-07-09, 11:35 AM
A ridiculously high percentage of accidents happen no more than a few hundred yards away from your own home, i personally wouldn't risk it for the biscuit (or a takeaway)
Has no-one ever thought this could be because you live near there so are much more likely to be in the area? Rather than making it sound like it's actually more dangerous to be near your own home? I'm sure there's an element of familiarity causing carelessness but I bet a HUGE part of it is the fact you're always around there!
Now...to contradict (sort of) - I ride in either full leathers/textiles OR a pair of Alpinestars motorcycle jeans, subtler boots (that look like normal boots) and my normal leather/textile jacket. So hopefully, pretty well kitted up in general.
Myself, I'd rather do that, but it is personal preference.
I'm paranoid so I always wear boots, gloves, jacket.
I have slacked off a few times with jeans instead of full armoured lowers, but maybe only 30 times in the last 7 years.
Each to their own I'd say. Me I value my body too much (I ride DH and wear a pressure suit for that too!)
gruntygiggles
01-07-09, 11:46 AM
Hmmmm, just mentioned this thread to a friend of mine and Stretchies.....she used to ride bikes, both her parents do so is not a bike hater. She is a nurse though and she said there is nothing worse than having to take two hours to clean up wounds that would otherwise be cleaned in 2 minutes, just because someone has not worn correct protective clothing. She also said cheap textiles are just as bad because they'll melt into the wound, all of which make the job of nurses and doctors much harder.
Just thought I'd pass those thoughts on!
Like **** was I wearing leathers in France, in 35+ degrees, when im only popping into the town to have a look round, down the bottom of the valley...
We all survived, no cuts, no bruises, no broken bones.
I must be a chav............. We were in shorts.
Hmmmm, just mentioned this thread to a friend of mine and Stretchies.....she used to ride bikes, both her parents do so is not a bike hater. She is a nurse though and she said there is nothing worse than having to take two hours to clean up wounds that would otherwise be cleaned in 2 minutes, just because someone has not worn correct protective clothing. She also said cheap textiles are just as bad because they'll melt into the wound, all of which make the job of nurses and doctors much harder.
Just thought I'd pass those thoughts on!
Or you could shorten that and say.....
Skin burns an inch a second on concreate.
30mph off, you do the maths ;)
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my pants, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my pants, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
Can you take a picture for the knee down photo competition . . . it would be the winner for sure!
dizzyblonde
01-07-09, 12:23 PM
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my MANKINI, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
:smt101
:smt005
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my pants, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
in two contradictory words
Aye right!:cool:
Hmmmm, just mentioned this thread to a friend of mine and Stretchies.....she used to ride bikes, both her parents do so is not a bike hater. She is a nurse though and she said there is nothing worse than having to take two hours to clean up wounds that would otherwise be cleaned in 2 minutes, just because someone has not worn correct protective clothing. She also said cheap textiles are just as bad because they'll melt into the wound, all of which make the job of nurses and doctors much harder.
Just thought I'd pass those thoughts on!
It's a thought, but spare a thought for all those in shorts who completely avoided the Nursey because they were comfortable & riding carefully, aware of their surroundings
in two contradictory words
Aye right!:cool:
ok, so the flip-flops are a bad idea, as changing up a gear would bre tricky
gruntygiggles
01-07-09, 01:24 PM
It's a thought, but spare a thought for all those in shorts who completely avoided the Nursey because they were comfortable & riding carefully, aware of their surroundings
Yeah, I get that....but every rider knows that sometimes things happen that are just out of your control. I'm not going to be the leathers police, it's individual choice, but it just makes me cringe. I can make myself comfortable on the bike in the hot weather and if the day comes that I can't, well I probably just won't bother.
I agree that you could get run over by a bus anytime, so why worry about something that only MIGHT happen. That said, I like my skin and want to do everything I can to keep it.
but spare a thought for all those in shorts who completely avoided the Nursey because they were comfortable & riding carefully, aware of their surroundings . . .
when BLAMMO (batman comic word) they were rear ended by granny smith, get their foot cought under the bike as it slid down the road grinding their ankle bone off.
This happened to a friend
This argument could go on for ever - it truly is a case of each to their own.
I don't want to sound all righteous but everyone has a choice what they are wearing when they pick their keys up in the morning. Me personally its full armour (when I'm racing my mtb bike too)
There are too many other factors to an argument like this really
Can we not just say if you are going to ride fast on the open road its best to wear something (my dad back in the day would say levi's were the best form of protection as if you fell off it was a weeks salary down the drain as an apprentice engineer - so you just didn't) That said the megaphones on a 500cc-odd sigle will have probably done more damage to his hearing than anything else!
This thread has thrown up debate in a couple of areas, I feel I should clear up a couple of my points.
A lot of people have nipped to the shops in jeans and t shirt, including me once or twice.
I didn't raise question about this or whether you should wear leathers, each to their own, but more the point the rider was in shorts and sandals, no t shirt etc.
It has also been suggested that I may have used the term 'chav' in a general, derogatory fashion.
The reason I used that term is because, as mentioned in my first post, I think the lad has progressed from scooter jockey to sv rider (the sv is now parked where the scooter used to park). Now there are quite a few in the scooter posse around my way, and yes they do (99.9% of them) wear shell suit bottoms and hoodys in colder climates, hang around the local shops and parks being general nuisances, leaving beer cans/bottles everywhere so on and so forth, so I feel that I am correct in my assumption that chav is the right term to use.
On another point regarding the delluded mindset that suggests people that ride in shorts and not a lot else are safe and people that wear correct, or should I say sensible riding gear, be it leathers or otherwise, are dangerous speed merchants, how can you come to this conclusion, unless when said people put their leathers on they ride like a lune and tar everyone else with the same brush.
Case in point, last year I was walking down a path with my two children when two of the aforementioned scooter riders came down the road.
They were dressed in shorts and t shirt, so would be riding safely yeah?
No they were to busy chatting to each other and when they drew level with me and the kids collided with each other and both face planted the road. They could very well have collected me or my children in the process.
My nine year old summed it up perfectly."what a pair of idiots"
My nine year old summed it up perfectly."what a pair of idiots"
I laughed at that - brilliant!
Just wait till the lad starts to do wheelies and burnouts all over the place!
Wideboy
01-07-09, 03:04 PM
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my pants, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
all that protection really necessary? :lol:
all that protection really necessary? :lol:
Wideboy is right - you may get your flip flop caught on the shifter and thats just downright dangerous. Best lose the flip flops.
im going to the SV meet tonight then for a ride, probably about 50miles all in, and im going in just my pants, flip-flops and my lid.
why?.................... because i can
Too many jokes about why a welshman might be out in the country in just his undercrackers;)
dizzyblonde
01-07-09, 03:27 PM
well my ass is cooking after a ride over to the bike shop for parts.
Proper jacket with the liners removed and draggin jeans.
Still wouldn't swap that sweaty feeling for shorts n tshirt ;-)
Wideboy
01-07-09, 03:28 PM
Wideboy is right - you may get your flip flop caught on the shifter and thats just downright dangerous. Best lose the flip flops.
but what if his undies get caught on the seat and he cant lean over in the corners..... better loose them aswell
i took mine to college in just my jeans today, was tempted not to take the jocket but i still did
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