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Spiderman
03-07-09, 02:40 PM
It sounds minor but is driving me up the wall. I've called NHS direct and they sid it could be up to 10hrs before they call me back as they are bust with the heat. My GP cant see me till monday so the combined wisdom of all meical personnel is required please.
I got water in my ear whilst swimming yesterday and it wont come out or go away. I'm about 80% deaf in that ear and no matter what i do to try and shift the water it wont go.
Things ive tried.
Standing on one foot and hoping up and down - my usual "cure" - nothing.
Tissues carefully pushed in to try mop it up - nothing
Pulling/pushing/streching ear - nothing
Sleeping on that side all night - nothing.
Please, please help me if you have any other usefull ideas or suggestions.
And no, i'm not doing a Van Gough before anyone suggests that.
JediGoat
03-07-09, 02:41 PM
Go chat to your local pharmacist ;)
metalmonkey
03-07-09, 02:45 PM
Does't that just drive you mad? It will come out in its own time I have that before, maybe just try lying down with that ear onto the pillow, it should really just run out.
Oh too add never try to anything bigger than your elbow in your ear.
Biker Biggles
03-07-09, 02:48 PM
Eah Yuk.:)
Spiderman
03-07-09, 02:52 PM
Go chat to your local pharmacist ;)
Thanks Jo, didnt think of that and there is one a few minutes down the road too. D'oh!
maybe just try lying down with that ear onto the pillow, it should really just run out.
erm...
Things ive tried.
Standing on one foot and hoping up and down - my usual "cure" - nothing.
Tissues carefully pushed in to try mop it up - nothing
Pulling/pushing/streching ear - nothing
Sleeping on that side all night - nothing.
Spiderman
03-07-09, 02:53 PM
Eah Yuk.:)
Erm is that one perscription only BB? ;)
SoulKiss
03-07-09, 02:55 PM
Eah Yuk.:)
Erm is that one perscription only BB? ;)
Thats only available in Yorkshire, on the shelf next to the Eah By Ghum I believe :)
appollo1
03-07-09, 02:59 PM
did you dive in or go to the bottom of the pool at the deep end?
the reason i ask is my mate went to the bottom at th edeep end of a pool last week and has damaged the outer part of the eardrum.
don't poke anything into your ear even tissue as it could cause further damage.
Spiderman
03-07-09, 02:59 PM
Thanks Grinchy...will suck a mint as i take a walk to the chemist but please keep your advice flowing in case i get back from the chemist with no joy.
You won't want to hear this but the same thing happened to me and I remained partially deaf for almost a YEAR! Then one morning I woke up and could hear perfectly well again... just like that.
Gazza77
03-07-09, 03:08 PM
It sounds minor but is driving me up the wall. I've called NHS direct and they sid it could be up to 10hrs before they call me back as they are bust with the heat. My GP cant see me till monday so the combined wisdom of all meical personnel is required please.
I got water in my ear whilst swimming yesterday and it wont come out or go away. I'm about 80% deaf in that ear and no matter what i do to try and shift the water it wont go.
Things ive tried.
Standing on one foot and hoping up and down - my usual "cure" - nothing.
Tissues carefully pushed in to try mop it up - nothing
Pulling/pushing/streching ear - nothing
Sleeping on that side all night - nothing.
Please, please help me if you have any other usefull ideas or suggestions.
And no, i'm not doing a Van Gough before anyone suggests that.
Try going to your local walk-in centre. No appointment needed. ;)
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/Emergencyandurgentcareservices/Pages/Walk-incentresFAQ.aspx
Surely you meant...
Oh too add never try to put anything smaller than your elbow in your ear.
you tried warm water from a syringe?
Mr Speirs
03-07-09, 03:20 PM
I once got a ball bearing stuck in my ear. Could hear it rattling around. Sooo annoying.
Mr Speirs
03-07-09, 03:21 PM
Oh medical advice. Get a new ear plug. Squeeze it really tight and slowly insert it into your ear until it starts getting painful.
top tip...never take medical advice from a doctor that put a ball bearing in his ear :-)
Mr Speirs
03-07-09, 03:31 PM
top tip...never take medical advice from a doctor that put a ball bearing in his ear :-)
toooshay
JediGoat
03-07-09, 03:34 PM
Assuming I do come to Soho tonight...I'll have my Sodium Bicarbonate ear-drops with me (dangerously, in the same size bottle as the Silicon drops I carry for un-siezing locks).
I constantly struggle with blocked ears, swollen ear canals, and ear infections....you kind of get used to it after a while.
Spiderman
03-07-09, 03:39 PM
OK sucked a mint all the way to the chemist - nothing.
Asked chemist for advice and was told to just wait it out :roll: which i guess is better than being sold a bottle of something and told it'll fix it but it costs £10 and find it does nothing.
i honestly cant see how putting more liquid in my ear will help th water trapped in there to come out but i'm gonna go jump in the shower now and see if more water gently allowed in might convince the other water to come out and play.
You won't want to hear this but the same thing happened to me and I remained partially deaf for almost a YEAR! Then one morning I woke up and could hear perfectly well again... just like that.
You're right, didnt wanna read that but thanks for the eal world honesty all the same.
Try going to your local walk-in centre. No appointment needed. ;)
http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSservices/Emergencyandurgentcareservices/Pages/Walk-incentresFAQ.aspx
Thanks for the linky, why the NHS Direct girl didnt suggest this on the phone i dont know. Aint got time today now as i gotta go Soho meet tonight so may well try this tomorrow :)
you tried warm water from a syringe?
Aint got a syringe and tbh i'd be worried i'd do myself some damge or make it worse. tried dripping water in it from my fingers and using a wet finger to creat a little suction in there.... but nothing :(
Oh medical advice. Get a new ear plug. Squeeze it really tight and slowly insert it into your ear until it starts getting painful.
tried that yesterday at the trackday. Seemed logical and easy .... and it didnt work :(
top tip...never take medical advice from a doctor that put a ball bearing in his ear :-)
Now i'm not sure i wanna know how or why there was a ball bearing in there, lol. But i'll top that by saing i had the hard cristy bit of popcorn in my ear once many years ago. It only came out after i woke up to find some nice almost black blood had oozed out my ear and stuck my face to my pilliow.
Both my eardrums are perforated from years of raving but they work fine so not too fussed but this one deaf ear scenario is driving me nuts.
i'm no medical expert. but i think you have dislodged some ear wax further down into your ear. as said sodium bicarbonate ear drops should shift it.
metalmonkey
03-07-09, 03:42 PM
Surely you meant...
Yeah probally, you know what I mean thought:D
TheNinj1
03-07-09, 03:44 PM
Go have a bath, sumerge the head in water and shake to coax out the water in your ear. We all know water likes to stick to itself, so it might work?
I remained partially deaf for almost a YEAR! Then one morning I woke up and could hear perfectly well again... just like that.
Same here, mine was called divorce though. :D
Spidey, place a peanut in your deaf ear, then pour in some chocolate, it'll come out a treat :takeabow:
For the younger generation who don't know what i'm on about, it used to a sweet that us old farts used to eat years ago. You'll knom them as M&M's, but if i said it'll come out an M&M it wouldn't have the same comedy value. :-dd
Spiderman
03-07-09, 03:53 PM
Spidey, place a peanut in your deaf ear, then pour in some chocolate, it'll come out a treat :takeabow:
Still on top form i see :lol: And i'm old enought to remember treats too.
But if i pour custard and jelly and force in some sponge in the other ear i might make me a trifle deaf and then at least i'd have some equilibrium.
WD40? :)
Disperses water doesn't it? ;)
I know nothing, ignore me.
metalmonkey
03-07-09, 04:03 PM
WD40? :)
Disperses water doesn't it? ;)
I know nothing, ignore me.
Well at least it won't be rusty!
454697819
03-07-09, 04:07 PM
place your hand over the ear to form as good a seal as you can, gently massage ina a pumping motion, try several times. also try lying with your head in a bath, ears covered, then bringing it out of the water. This might help.
Cheers
Alex
Spiderman
03-07-09, 04:13 PM
WD40? :)
PMSL, A+ for creative thinking tho i dont think i'l be trying that anytime soon.
place your hand over the ear to form as good a seal as you can, gently massage ina a pumping motion, try several times. also try lying with your head in a bath, ears covered, then bringing it out of the water. This might help.
Cheers
Alex
Tried the hand cupping thing mte - nothing.
Just had a shower and tried it under the running water too - nothing.
Also tried filling ear with as much water as possible by dripping it off my finger while head was tilted over - nothing.
So tried filing it again and then placing a bit of tissue in there with it in the hope that as it absorbs the water it will alos pull that oter water with it...relying on the properties of water tension now... and sitting here typing with a wad of tissue sticking out my ear :lol:
metalmonkey
03-07-09, 04:31 PM
Dude this how get water out of year, can't belive none of you haven't thought about this yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0vvMPR0VCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w9rsAryBS0&feature=related
of if you just wanna pick, yum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIVXB9ETOi4&feature=related
DaveW_42
03-07-09, 04:38 PM
sounds obvious, but it used to happen to me all the time when swimming when I was a kid.
Jump onto a bed landing sideways (obviously not from too high - dont damage anything else!) with your 'full' ear pointing downwards and it should just drain straight out!
kellyjo
03-07-09, 05:20 PM
This is fascinating stuff! Not sure i can offer any useful suggestions, swinging between skyscrapers hanging on a thread of spidey silk maybe.... i cant wait to find out what finally works, keep us posted x
shonadoll
03-07-09, 05:36 PM
Cover your nose with two fingers, then *blow*your nose gently. This should help, it worked for me.
dirtydog
03-07-09, 09:18 PM
Spidey pop round here and I'll get my wet vac on it, that should sort it
TheNinj1
03-07-09, 11:09 PM
Ultrasound it, or using resonant (higher) frequencies, you can break up the water/blockage.
Spiderman
04-07-09, 12:21 AM
Jump onto a bed landing sideways
Not tried it but worth a shot i guess.
This is fascinating stuff! Not sure i can offer any useful suggestions, swinging between skyscrapers hanging on a thread of spidey silk maybe.... i cant wait to find out what finally works, keep us posted x
Haha... all the best Spidey swinging in the world was tried first of course
Keeping you posted...i've taken Messie's advice. She told me at Soho tonight so its not on here but i'm currently sitting here with an ear full of olive oil, head tilted to one side as i type. My strange life experiences count just went up by one. :lol:
Cover your nose with two fingers, then *blow*your nose gently. This should help, it worked for me.
First technique of choice tbh but sadly not a hope of enought pressue as it feels really in there.
Spidey pop round here and I'll get my wet vac on it, that should sort it
PMSL DD, i was thinking of getting the Henry out and and letting him give me a good sucking. Ooo er n all that.
Ultrasound it, or using resonant (higher) frequencies, you can break up the water/blockage.
Hmmm, wonder who i know who works with such gear. I'm sure my sciency type frind Mr A*Hero could get his hands on something.
Slightly worried i might dislodge a brain cell and i think the other one would be lonely if that happened. :help:
Keep em comming guys, nothing worked so far and its getting to the point where i'm thinking of cutting my head off so i can poke my ear from the inside. Sticking my head back on might be the downside of that little idea tho :(
Von Teese
04-07-09, 12:27 AM
Seen this post very late
Try not to put anything into your ear, it sounds like you have a perforated eardrum as you are unable to regulate the airspace in your ear and the water has possibly gone into the inner ear.
Doctor! Doctor! Doctor! is all I can say, if it's really making you that stressed you could try local A&E but remember its Friday (fight night) and it will be heaving.
Do not try putting anything else in until he has used the auroscope and determine whether the eardrum is intact, you may exacerbate the problem.
Hope you are better soon x, its really unpleasant but try to bear with it until you know for sure.
metalmonkey
04-07-09, 12:29 AM
Hmmm, wonder who i know who works with such gear. I'm sure my sciency type frind Mr A*Hero could get his hands on something.
Slightly worried i might dislodge a brain cell and i think the other one would be lonely if that happened. :help:
You have more than one, no way;)
Keep em comming guys, nothing worked so far and its getting to the point where i'm thinking of cutting my head off so i can poke my ear from the inside. Sticking my head back on might be the downside of that little idea tho :(
Hope ya get some sleep and feel better in the am dude:cool:
Spiderman
04-07-09, 12:34 AM
... it sounds like you have a perforated eardrum ....
Both my eardrums are perforated from years of raving but they work fine so not too fussed but this one deaf ear scenario is driving me nuts.
Do try and keep up Miss Moneypenny ;)
.
Kilted Ginger
04-07-09, 12:59 AM
lie on floor, get large friend to attach kitchen sink plunger over the offending ear and have at it ;)
Sorry mate, go to sleep on that side and hope for the best, see the doc on monday.
Von Teese
04-07-09, 05:08 AM
Do try and keep up Miss Moneypenny ;)
.
Perforated eardrums heal!
Although once you have ruptured them once and they heal, the are weaker than normal and it can recur more easily.
That is all...
Von Teese
04-07-09, 05:19 AM
Here you go Mr Bond, looked it up especially for you just so you believe me.
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/27001160/
kellyjo
04-07-09, 06:31 AM
i'm thinking of cutting my head off so i can poke my ear from the inside. Sticking my head back on might be the downside of that little idea tho :([/QUOTE]
Spidey, it may reassure you to know that if you dropped a tarantula and its abdomen was to split (the big round part of the spider) you could use superglue and flour to repair it, thus saving its life. If you reach the point today where you do decide to 'self-decapitate' maybe you could try this to see if it works with spidey heads too!! Hope it sorts itself soon x
Put water in your other ear and it wiill all cancel out!;)
TheNinj1
04-07-09, 08:06 AM
Put your head over a bowl of boiling hot water, with a towel covering your head.
Failing that, threaten it with angry shouting.
Warthog
04-07-09, 08:52 AM
hey Spidey. My guaranteed way of getting water out of my ear is to kneel next to the bed, put a towel down, then properly headbutt the bed with the side of my head which has the waterlogged ear. 3 whacks and it is always out, don't be afraid of doing it hard, it doesn't hurt. If this doesn't solve the deafness then I suggest you have fluid in your inner ear. I get this quite often, everything is muffled yet the ear is clean and water free. Turns out it is my eustacean tube not draining my ear enough, it happens when I am drunk or bunged up. Eat some decongestant and wait a day or two and then it clears up, drains, and you can hear again. Hope this helps.
Hows your ear this morning spidey.
Have you tried drying your ear with a hair dryer on a low setting.
I SAID HAVE YOU TRIED DRYING YOUR EAR WITH A HAIR DRYER.
linky http://www.ehow.com/how_2039130_water-out-ear.html
Von Teese
04-07-09, 10:33 AM
Havent you got someone that could lick it out for you?
I get that regularly, does your head in doesnt it ? just gotta leave to its own course Im afraid dont shove anything in, you,ll just compact it, as annoying as it is you,re better off not doing anything,at one time doctors would syringe your ears for you but they dont do it as often these days apparently
Spiderman
04-07-09, 12:01 PM
Thanks everyone for all you advice. Ear is still as bad as it was :(
NHS direct finally called me back...at 3.45 this morning. Went thru a few questions and tbh the advice i've been getting on here was far more helpfull than anything they said cos after asking me a million question they cme back with this.... "well it sounds like you got water in your ear from swimming and it wont come out." no shi* sherlock :roll: "We suggest you wait a few days, maybe a week and then see your GP if its still a problem" Greeeeat. So they told me what i knew already and told them. Thanks a bunch.
Spidey, it may reassure you to know that if you dropped a tarantula and its abdomen was to split (the big round part of the spider) you could use superglue and flour to repair it, thus saving its life. If you reach the point today where you do decide to 'self-decapitate' maybe you could try this to see if it works with spidey heads too!! Hope it sorts itself soon x
*wanders off to find superglue and flour....and a big hacksaw*
CoolGirl
04-07-09, 04:28 PM
CAN YOU HEAR US YET?! :smt039
Alpinestarhero
04-07-09, 04:36 PM
Well to re-iterate what I said last night, don't use those spray things that dissolve ear wax (I suspect you have some kind of gung formed of water+ear wax blocking everything up) because they'll only end up burning the skin. Have you tried warm olive oil? It could be something behind the ear-drum, you might have an infection...have you any pain at all?
Go see the doctor as soon as you can...for all you know, it might be another bit of popcorn :lol:
Spiderman
05-07-09, 12:44 PM
CAN YOU HEAR US YET?! :smt039
Only when you shout, sadly :(
Still got 80% hearing in my rught ear and its really friggin annoyingGonna give the docs a call tomorrow and hope they can see me on the same day otherwise i may just take a ride up to A&E as i'm hoping its not gonna be too busy on a monday.
Miss Alpinestarhero
05-07-09, 02:26 PM
I already spoke to you on Friday but do try avoid A&E and just call your GP up tomorrow and get seen that day. Doctors surgerys generally keep morning appointments free for emergencies. My doctors accept calls for on-the-day-emergency appointments from 8am onwards. Maybe your local GP surgey will open that early?
Hopefully they'l be able to solve whatever it is..! It could be an ear infection so a course of antibiotics and ear-spray will do the trick.
Spiderman
06-07-09, 04:55 PM
Update for thos that wanted it :)
Went to the Docs this afternoon and he had a quick look. Turns out its wax. Phew, glads he didnt say ny brain was tryiong to escape and got caught in the narrow tubes or something at least.
However he wouldnt risk syringing it as i've had perforated ear drums before and he'd rather be safe than sorry so made an ENT referral for me...which could take up to 3 weeks!!! FFS dealing with this for a few days has been bad enough, now i may have to wait another 3 weeks :(
He also told me to stop using thr Sodium Bicarbonate drops ive been trying (thank you Shop Addict for that advice) even tho it was clearing it up for the same reasons as he wouldnt syringe it, could get thru the perforations and cause more problems in my inner ear etc.
might just keep using them tho, not sure. If i can use the drops and clear it up i'm saving NHS waitning list time etc is the good positve thinking bahind this, however do i wanna risk causing more problems for myself??? Hmmm.
Warthog
06-07-09, 05:26 PM
Can't he just pull it out? Same happened to my brother in Belgium. Bless their lack of health and safety, they doctor just got some tweezers and the ear scope thing and pulled the lump of wax out. My brother yelped but then suddenly he could hear, and we were all looking at this crescent moon-shaped piece of solid wax.
Spiderman
06-07-09, 05:30 PM
He said he'd rather leave it to the ENT specialist who will do just that by the sounds of it, cos the wont flush it out but will "suck" it out he said. She better be nice looking this ENT person, not letting a minger put her tongue in my ear. I have standards you know :lol:
Isn't that how they do it?
Did i hear him wrong? ;)
Update for thos that wanted it :)
Excellent. Me.
Turns out its wax.
You can provide candles for the AR09 campfire singsong then.
Phew, glads he didnt say ny brain was tryiong to escape
No, I think that fell out along with your baffle at Brands last year didn't it? It would account for your cunsistantly bizar speerlling.
so made an ENT referral for me...which could take up to 3 weeks!!! FFS dealing with this for a few days has been bad enough, now i may have to wait another 3 weeks :(
3 weeks isn't bad. Waiting time at the RNTNE in town is over a month at the moment apparently.
He also told me to stop using thr Sodium Bicarbonate drops ive been trying
Yes, you should be using that to make scones. Or scones (depending on your pronunciation).
might just keep using them tho, not sure. If i can use the drops and clear it up i'm saving NHS waitning list time etc is the good positve thinking bahind this, however do i wanna risk causing more problems for myself??? Hmmm.
No, don't risk it. Please don't tell me that you're willing to put your health at risk for the sake of making a computerised automated booking system feel happy for a split second? Take Gary Barlow's advice - just try and have a little pay-shuunce.
Really feel for you though, Ziggy. Hope it all gets sorted soon. :smt056
Orpheus
06-07-09, 08:38 PM
How about an ear candle?
http://rochesterchiro.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ear_candle.jpg
Never used one but they are for drawing wax out. It might work. Or it could destroy your eardrum. But its definately worth a try.
Spiderman
06-07-09, 09:13 PM
No, I think that fell out along with your baffle at Brands last year didn't it? It would account for your cunsistantly bizar speerlling.
nuthin rong wiv my speelings, me typoings on the otter hand are anudder story
Yes, you should be using that to make scones. Or scones (depending on your pronunciation).
I pronounce it the right way as you well know. Scones, see that was perfect.
No, don't risk it. Please don't tell me that you're willing to put your health at risk for the sake of making a computerised automated booking system feel happy for a split second? Take Gary Barlow's advice - just try and have a little pay-shuunce.
Aw but those poor automated systems need some love too dont they. Did you know the supercomputer that played against chess masters, when ht was retired it went on to be the booking system for some major airline. Now thats no way to end a gliitering career is it? Anything we can do to help them feel better is a good thing surley. (cue the computer geeks on here who'll know the name of the computer, the date it retired, its final salary pension and the name of the airline it went onto.)
And who the fek is Gareth Barlymow? I tried a little tenderness once but i found the commitment it required was too much.
What?
Really feel for you though, Ziggy. Hope it all gets sorted soon. :smt056
Thanks hun. I'm feeling myself up too. Oh isn't that what you said? Its my hearing dont you know. I said ITS MY HEARING DONT YOU KNOW.
But its definately worth a try.
Hmmm. Definately you say*wonders if a tealight would do the trick*
JediGoat
06-07-09, 10:37 PM
Eek...not wishing to worry...but...I've started already.
I can't have my ears syringed (weak scar tissue on ear drum), so have had that 'hoovering' thing done. It's not nice. In fact, it's rather unpleasant.
HTH.
How about an ear candle?
Never used one...
I'd recommend four.
(Sorry).
Did you know.... blah blah another Spidey 'fact'...
No, strangely, I didn't.
And who the fek is Gareth Barlymow? I tried a little tenderness once but i found the commitment it required was too much.
What?
Chaka feels for you too, she really does.
Anyway, back on topic. I wouldn't have the Hopi ear candling done until someone in a white coat has had look in your earhole. And certainly don't buy any and try it yourself. People have been know to burn the inner parts of their ears (ouch).
TheNinj1
06-07-09, 11:18 PM
Did they light the wrong end?
Spiderman
25-07-09, 02:14 PM
Quick update for all you nice peeps who wished me well with this.
About this time last week my ear popped!!!! Yay! And all by itself too. Well i say that, i burped and it popped, lol.
So now i can hear in glorious stereoscopicphonic sound like before and the world is a better place :)
Thank you all for your suggestion, no matter how inclredibly scary some may have been.
:grouphug:
dirtydog
25-07-09, 05:13 PM
Well if it happens again Spidey my offer of the wet vac is there and guess the make of it...
Earlex !!!!!
Spiderman
27-07-09, 11:16 AM
PMSL, thats ecxellent.
Thanks DD i'll keep this in mind :lol:
muffles
27-07-09, 11:44 AM
Jesus that took a long time mate :shock: longest I've ever had a blocked ear for was 1-2 days!
Bluewolf
27-07-09, 01:38 PM
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Seen this post very late
Do not try putting anything else in until he has used the auroscope and determine whether the eardrum is intact, you may exacerbate the problem.
Hope you are better soon x, its really unpleasant but try to bear with it until you know for sure.
Likewise. Seriously, the only safe method if you've got a possible perforated drum is dry wax removal with a curette wielded by someone who knows what they're doing, eg, nurse, doctor, maybe audiologist. Foreign fluid into inner ear =not good.:smt018
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