View Full Version : Got my knee down at last
shiver85
03-07-09, 08:39 PM
woooooooooooo rather happy with myself after 1 year 2 weeks i managed to get it done along the a22 somewhere theres a big roundabout with redhill as a turn off. got my foot in place cheek across the seat head down by the mirror and abit more speed next thing know scrrrrrrrrr touch down :cheers: :D
kept going round for 2 more goes getting it down again and again when i came to turn off this woman gave me a very odd look as if to say what the hell are you doing mate :shock:
what a blinding ride didnt know where i was going or where i was but took all the little turn offs went past godstone farm and theres some lovely bends down there. all in all im now knackered from just 60miles my hand is still sore so im off for some beers and ice my hand
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/shiver85/18012007935.jpg
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Welcome to the other side! :)
There are lots reading this that are secretly jealous and revitalised into trying this having read the above. There'll be roundabouts all over the country with SV's at big lean angles tomorrow :)
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Spiderman
04-07-09, 01:07 AM
Ah good for you. I only spent all day yesterday the Brands trying to get mine down ... and failing. Was scrapping the pegs tho so the bike was over enough, i just was hanging off far enough. From some of the pics i only had centimetres to go but still a fail, lol.
One of these days, one of these days....
lukemillar
04-07-09, 01:20 AM
Ah good for you. I only spent all day yesterday the Brands trying to get mine down ... and failing. Was scrapping the pegs tho so the bike was over enough, i just was hanging off far enough. From some of the pics i only had centimetres to go but still a fail, lol.
One of these days, one of these days....
Dude, It's much better to do it on a track than riding around in circles on the road anyway!
I have to say that ground clearance on the SV on the track isn't that great. With standard pegs, it's a fine line between knee down and peg down unless you hang off ridiculously, which ends up slowing you down and becomes "for show" anyway!
I caught a peg twice on the SV - once at Silverstone, it almost through me into the scenary!
sv-robo
04-07-09, 02:32 PM
Have a gold star!!:p
Nicky S
04-07-09, 02:38 PM
i just cant do this :( ever time i do it my knee is like 4 cm away from the ground and before my knee hits the ground my peg dose and i get laods of sparks which is also cool
but i just cant get my knee down like last night i hit around about to fast with a m8 on the back and slamed the bike over hoping id get my new down and instead jsut shaved more off the peg :(
i will do it one day ....
congrats :-) no where near doing it yet myself. Think i'll try it on a track though lol
captainsmelly
04-07-09, 05:19 PM
Well done mate, I know that roundabout well its only a couple of miles down my road!
muffles
04-07-09, 08:24 PM
Now to get the left ;)
I have to confess I never did the old roundabout trick cos I wanted to do it 'properly'. However 3.5 years of trying on the road proved fruitless, although not that far away.
I finally managed it at the same track day Spidey was at though. Mate - I think the pegs on the CBR are probably about the same setup as the SV, they are quite low - they are low enough that on some right handers I couldn't avoid touching the toe slider down as well. But I think it means you are over far enough for definite!
On track you are able to get them properly worn :) ...
Left:
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv13/muffles_2k/Brands%20Hatch%20Indy%202nd%20July%202009/IMG_0889.jpg
Right:
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv13/muffles_2k/Brands%20Hatch%20Indy%202nd%20July%202009/IMG_0887.jpg
I had to hang off this much:
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv13/muffles_2k/Brands%20Hatch%20Indy%202nd%20July%202009/SDI_0647.jpg
On the track my right knee goes down without even thinking about it, I have only ever had my left knee down twice, both times at rockingham on the series of left handers lol
I still think roundabouts are a giggle, there is one near me which is Junction 27 of the M1 to be exact, every sunny weekend gauranteed there is a bunch of middle aged men wobbling around on the latest machinary trying to scrape their knee lol, I always go past on the way out of town for a proper ride, slam my knee on the ground infront of the wobblers and then go for a proper ride lol.
Was trying this today, for some reason feel more comfortable on the left knee. Found a nice bit of road and gave it a go a good few times, all I got was peg. Very annoying, if the peg is down the lean is right yes? just not hanging off enough?
Is there any way of adjusting the peg height without rear sets?
got a question too. If your further enough over to get the peg down then what is the cornering benefit of putting ya knee down? or isnt there one? If its just a case of hanging off a bit more but the angle of the bike doesnt change then what do you gain by it?
Just wondered
It doesn't from what I've read as if you get your knee down before the peg you'd be more upright and would be going slower?
muffles
05-07-09, 12:57 PM
I've heard there's a centre of gravity benefit to hanging off, but I'm not sure - I certainly don't notice it. It does feel more comfortable cornering hard when I'm hanging off though.
One thing I am sure racers use it for is to gauge how much lean angle they have left. This could be used to lean further through a corner, or to help get maximum lean throughout the whole corner, etc.
Re: getting the peg down I think you're meant to be careful doing that, I've heard stories that it can dig in and throw you off.
muffles
05-07-09, 12:58 PM
Re the CoG benefit, I should clarify I probably don't notice it because I'm not good enough to notice it, even if it is true.
mister c
05-07-09, 01:29 PM
Racers, I believe, use it as a marker to let them know how much further they have left go before the tyre lets go. i have only achieved it on track, never done it on the road. Just to show that you dont have to get your knee down to be good, or fast, this is a friend of ours that is 2nd in the Triumph Triple Challenge this year. He took 2 first places at Oulton Park last weekend :)
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs121.snc1/5212_1202591703537_1190915449_30609438_3856189_n.j pg
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If you have to make a sudden lean, because you over cooked the corner, the peg does dig in and the rear starts to slip out, which only resulted in a fish tail last time thankfully..
I hang off like a monkey/ape/gibbon, don't feel comfortable staying put on the bike.
I get KD alot on the roads I know, not so much on roads I don't know..
Feels more stable, which is the main thing, after corner speed. It also lets me carry more corner speed according to YC..
They won't let me on a track though :(
My understanding was you hang of whilst cornering so that the bike is more upright, therefore capable of cornering quicker with a bigger contact patch of rubber on the ground.......was told this by a no limits instructor.
My understanding was you hang of whilst cornering so that the bike is more upright, therefore capable of cornering quicker with a bigger contact patch of rubber on the ground.......was told this by a no limits instructor.
Cool. That makes more sense, i lean off more so the bike doesn't have to. Cracking pics of getting it properly leant over as well! Does show ya dont need KD then. Will keep on practicing :-)
If you're going in a straight line, and you apply no pressure to the bars, but hang off one side, you notice the bike stays upright, but it also moves in the direction you're leaning off. Best way to figure it out for you'reself, even though you will look like a absolute idiot :)
Not that hanging off like a monkey doesn't make me look that already! :D
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