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PaulSV
08-07-09, 10:07 AM
How does one carry out the removal of the snorkel on a k7 pointy, had a quick look and it seems to be part of the air box cover ............do I need to cut it off ?:confused:

gazza
08-07-09, 11:35 AM
Take the airbox lid off. The snorkel then just unclips. Easy Peasy

SoulKiss
08-07-09, 11:36 AM
Take the airbox lid off. The snorkel then just unclips. Easy Peasy

And if you dont want to go for the full snorkelectomy, an SV1000 one will just slip in instead.

PaulSV
08-07-09, 11:40 AM
Thanks chaps, I'll do that tommorrow.

The Guru
08-07-09, 11:48 AM
Do it today, takes 10minutes. I swapped mine for an SV1000 snorkel

Kilted Ginger
08-07-09, 12:55 PM
Why? what difference does it make???

DarrenSV650S
08-07-09, 12:57 PM
Sounds awesome :D

STRAMASHER
08-07-09, 01:22 PM
Sounds awesome :D

Yup. Horny honk from the airbox, directly below yer ears. That and a pipe is the total opposite to the antiseptic angry sewing machine of OE. TUNES!:cool:

Bibio
08-07-09, 02:41 PM
i cut mine to feed more 'fresh' air. seems to have done the trick..

it now sits level with the gap between the tank and the frame, where as before it used to sit down inside the frame sucking 'hot' air from the engine.

ophic
08-07-09, 02:57 PM
might make it run lean unless you remap... unless the K7 has some cleverer sensors than the older pointies.

ethariel
08-07-09, 03:47 PM
Sv1000 snorkel as pointed out above fits straight in, managed to pick one up for iirc £15 a couple of years ago, it's been in and out a few times.
No noticable change in power or mpg.

sinbad
08-07-09, 05:49 PM
The booming noise isn't for everyone. I wasn't a big fan. Nice on a blip, not so nice on full load all the way up the revs. Not tried a swap for a thou snork though.

Holdup
08-07-09, 08:56 PM
i cut mine to feed more 'fresh' air. seems to have done the trick..

it now sits level with the gap between the tank and the frame, where as before it used to sit down inside the frame sucking 'hot' air from the engine.

Did you desnorkle a sv650 airbox or sv1000 airbox?

Bibio
08-07-09, 09:02 PM
sv650..

Holdup
08-07-09, 09:05 PM
I thought so but still asked :rolleyes:

PaulSV
10-07-09, 09:32 AM
Snorkelectomy done..............wow thats a big hole to suck air though, think I'll try and get a 1000 one to put on as I want to replace air filter with a K & N element next service.

Dave20046
10-07-09, 11:17 AM
might make it run lean unless you remap... unless the K7 has some cleverer sensors than the older pointies.
Ouit of interest can you map a pointy's ecu with your laptop? My mate maps his harley via his lappy. Do you need a special unit or soemthing?

Dave20046
10-07-09, 11:17 AM
Snorkelectomy done..............wow thats a big hole to suck air though, think I'll try and get a 1000 one to put on as I want to replace air filter with a K & N element next service.
What exhaust has it got on? I'd start to think about maps.

PaulSV
10-07-09, 11:41 AM
It has a Blue Flame oval can, most of the time with the baffle in. I thought a power commander was needed to do any re-mapping or I am I being stupid, you can use a laptop with a power commander.......can't you ?:confused:

Dave20046
10-07-09, 02:23 PM
Is a power commander a different ECU or is it the tool to remap an ECU? (excuse my ignorance I'm new to this F.I lark)

MattCollins
10-07-09, 04:24 PM
Dave, the power commander doesn't alter the map, just modifies the output.

Cheers

SoulKiss
10-07-09, 04:31 PM
Is a power commander a different ECU or is it the tool to remap an ECU? (excuse my ignorance I'm new to this F.I lark)

Its also a waste of a few hundred quid on an SV.

PaulSV
11-07-09, 05:39 AM
How do yo re-map then ?

MattCollins
11-07-09, 06:54 AM
Don't know about the SV, but normally it is a case of take it to a specialist with a dyno, the know-how and the equipment to burn a new ROM... or buy a generic remapped ROM off the shelf.

Speedy
11-07-09, 04:56 PM
Its also a waste of a few hundred quid on an SV.

Really??

I fitted a full Akropovic system on my K5S, noticed a vast difference in performance.

Then I fitted a PowerCommander, and it made even more difference. Especially smoothness. Which is EXTREMELY useful on roundabouts etc!!

They are however a waste of time on the SVs with the lambda probe fitted as standard.

They don't work for them. And Dynojet have not come up with a solution yet as far as I know.

I took my SV to my dealer to remap.

Much better, and don't get the FI light come on.

Bedhead
11-07-09, 05:06 PM
Really??

I fitted a full Akropovic system on my K5S, noticed a vast difference in performance.

Then I fitted a PowerCommander, and it made even more difference. Especially smoothness. Which is EXTREMELY useful on roundabouts etc!!

They are however a waste of time on the SVs with the lambda probe fitted as standard.

They don't work for them. And Dynojet have not come up with a solution yet as far as I know.

I took my SV to my dealer to remap.

Much better, and don't get the FI light come on.

The map for the SV1000 has notes that say to disconnect pin 23 on the ECU to turn the FI light out, and you just disconnect the lambda sensor. I'm not sure if it would apply on the newer 650.

I think the PCIII made a difference to my K3, it certainly is smoother with the map I D/L'd from Dynojet, and the accelerator pump mod is fun to play with.:D

I priced the 1000 Snorkel today off the dealer, £32!

Speedy
11-07-09, 05:35 PM
The map for the SV1000 has notes that say to disconnect pin 23 on the ECU to turn the FI light out, and you just disconnect the lambda sensor.

I had my new Akropovic system modified to accept the Lambda probe, then removed the PCIII.

I must admit, I've not been very impressed with the back up from Dynojet on this issue.

They supplied an "O2" eliminator with the PCIII to plug into the loom for the Lambda probe, but the probe fitted is a 4-wire type, and the resistor in the eliminator goes accross the wrong pins!!!!

There were no instructions mentioning the FI light wire/pin.

I'm kinda fussy too. If it has a FI warning light, it's there for a reason.

I know lots of people that have done this, especially on GSXRs although, on my GSXR the O2 eliminator worked fine and had no such issues!!

Shame really, I liked the difference the PC made on my K5S, shame they can't sort it for the newer bikes!!

Bedhead
11-07-09, 05:39 PM
I think they're phasing out development on the PCIII in favour of the PCIV, I don't know if the ecu disconnect turns out the FI light totally or just from the lambda probe, I'll have a look next time I see the bike in question.;)

If Suzuki made the standard ECU mappable without having to resort to the dealer, it would make life so much easier, but I suppose they'd run into lots of legal issues.:(

Svsmokey
11-07-09, 08:16 PM
+1 on the sound , i pulled mine to save a lb , and the sound was a bonus 'till i could get an exhaust .

sv650nutter149
11-07-09, 09:30 PM
just done mine last monday and i like it :)any one tried the pipercross induction kit? removes the top of airbox bout 80 quid

Speedy
12-07-09, 11:53 AM
I think they're phasing out development on the PCIII in favour of the PCIV, I don't know if the ecu disconnect turns out the FI light totally or just from the lambda probe, I'll have a look next time I see the bike in question.;)

If Suzuki made the standard ECU mappable without having to resort to the dealer, it would make life so much easier, but I suppose they'd run into lots of legal issues.:(

Slight derail,sorry.

Factory Pro do a device for re-proggramming stock ecu's.

Check it out.

Yeah, after reading all this I had a look on the Dynojet website, they are bringing out a PCV (powercommander 5) for the 2009 SV650's, maybe that will work on the 2008's too.

I have emailed them. So I'll keep you posted.

DaveP
14-07-09, 11:01 AM
removed mine last night... Got to admit i do like the sound... However there is now a mazzive hole in the airbox.... I am thinking of putting some kind of mesh in there to protect the filter a bit... What have the rest of you guys done with the hole if anything at all!

Dave

MattCollins
14-07-09, 11:17 AM
Dave, I wouldn't worry about extra protection too much... It is not a dirt bike that is going to be sucking up every bit of junk imaginable. As a worst case the aircleaner **might** need a blow a little more often.

Cheers

thor
14-07-09, 11:22 AM
I got mine remapped at steve jordan's using the gas flow sensor for £30.

Dave20046
15-07-09, 07:13 AM
removed mine last night... Got to admit i do like the sound... However there is now a mazzive hole in the airbox.... I am thinking of putting some kind of mesh in there to protect the filter a bit... What have the rest of you guys done with the hole if anything at all!

Dave
there's a mesh over mine I think but as mattco says I don't think it's a massive problem...

SV650Racer
16-07-09, 10:44 AM
I think they're phasing out development on the PCIII in favour of the PCIV, I don't know if the ecu disconnect turns out the FI light totally or just from the lambda probe, I'll have a look next time I see the bike in question.;)

If Suzuki made the standard ECU mappable without having to resort to the dealer, it would make life so much easier, but I suppose they'd run into lots of legal issues.:(

Anywhere with the correct equipment and a dyno can map the ecu directly. It is fine to map the K8 models as the lambda system isnt closed loop so doesnt over write the remap as many people think.