Braided hoses + aftermarket pads + labour = £200+

[Moojuicepez]

Went to my local dealership earlier today.
kestrel honda to be specific.

ask about hoses and pads as the breaks are pants on the sv and i got quoted over £200 for the lot. is this decent or am i being ripped off ?

cheers

Perry

[Richie]

in a word... yes

Ripped off

[Moojuicepez]

is there anyone in my area that would willingly help me get it asll cheaper haha and get them fitted?

[davepreston]

your local bike shop (not dealer should fit for 40 quid) evil bay for the parts job done for half that price

[Holdup]

Lines £60 pads £40 quid, brake fluid £5, roughly, what is their labour charge per hour? labour you should look to find £40 - £50 per hour as it should only take 1hrish to do all that.

[hovis]

if thats front and back, thats not too bad.........is it?

[Holdup]

Actually yea prob i only thought about front 60 quid for complete hose set and maybe another 20 on top for the rr pads as well

[thefallenangel]

My lines were £70 all round.

And learn how to ride the SV, you don't use the brakes, engine braking is where it's at. Go for a GSXR front end or adaptor plates and calipers if you can't be bothered to engine break.

[Razor]

props to all the peeps waht spelled brake correkt

[maviczap]

Breaks is how you spell it if you don't do your brakes right :smt098

[Moojuicepez]

that was front and back on the quote, he said that the lines would probably cost 80 to 90 all round and then the pads came to something like 70ish and then whatever the labour is. how much is a gsxr front end gunna cost me compared to just over 200 for some lines and such ? and whats adaptor plates?

and i do engine break but when some little F*****r runsout infront of me , i want them to stop me.

thanks

[MrMoonface]

Is the price quoted including buying the lines and pads?

Goodridge hoses are £57.25 on brakes4u
http://www.brakehoses4u.com/supersearch.asp?step3=yes&catType=M&catParent=7&pMake=All+Brake+Lines

Sintered pads are £24.59 (FR) and £18.45 (R)
http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/supersearch.asp?step3=yes&catType=M&catParent=11&pMake=SUZUKI

So your looking at around £100 for the parts....so your looking at around £90 for labour there! I got mine fitted plus new discs (front and rear) and an oil / filter change for about £160 if I remember rightly.

Local garage would be better. I only take mine to the dealers for the stamp in the book! Normally expensive and the work isn't as good!

[Moojuicepez]

The lines website doesnt seem to have them for a k6 ?

and the other one makes no sense :)

but thnx moonface

[MrMoonface]

The ones listed are for the K5 but I think they'll be K5 onwards. The second link you have to search Suzuki and between 501 - 748cc and it'll bring it up!

[Moojuicepez]

ah okay thank you . is there anyone in my area that knows how to bleed breaks etc?

[Specialone]

ah okay thank you . is there anyone in my area that knows how to bleed breaks etc?

Its fairly easy, especially if you have a helper to squeeze the lever for you.
There is a bleed nipple on each caliper which is higher than the brake line connection on the caliper, attach a piece of clear hose to this nipple, other end into a jar or something.
Open the nipple a touch, sqeeze lever all the way in, keep it there, re-tighten the nipple.
Repeat process until you dont see anymore bubbles, then do the other caliper.
Make sure you keep the reservoir topped up cos if you let it get low it will ruin all the work you have already done and waste brake fluid.
Job done.

You can buy various bleeding kits, some one man operation so you can do it.

If anyone knows a better way please feel free to add cos i have gotta do mine in the next couple of days.
Phil

[Holdup]

ah okay thank you . is there anyone in my area that knows how to bleed breaks etc?

Have an ask if your local areas forum, im sure someone will be kind enough to help

[Moojuicepez]

cheers phil , and cheers holdup ill dot hat after work :)

[lukemillar]

My lines were £70 all round.

And learn how to ride the SV, you don't use the brakes, engine braking is where it's at. Go for a GSXR front end or adaptor plates and calipers if you can't be bothered to engine break.

So if someone stepped out in front of you, you would emergency engine brake to a stop?

The brakes are important on any motorcycle, regardless of the engine configuration and should be kept in good working condition. Relying on just engine braking because you're ridng a twin is a mistake.

[jambo]

If you are going to the effort of fitting new pads, and new lines to get your brakes up to standard I would make sure that you put aside the time to strip, clean, inspect and regrease the pistons and caliper sliders. If the calipers and pistons are seized all the scintered pads and braided lines even with dot 5.1 fluid won't make the brakes work properly ;)

But therein lies effort, something your dealer might be factoring in to their quote for labour charges. I note no one has suggested that the brake system may not be working correctly, rather than that it needing "better parts". Be careful of getting into the habbit of throwing money at a problem before you've checked the basics, it's an expensive way to run a motorbike.

Jambo

[Alpinestarhero]

+1 to jambo. Brakes feel 100 times better when they are stripped, cleaned, greased, reassembled and paired with some nice fresh fluid

[captainsmelly]

+2 to jambo, (and +1 to A*hero)
I've just rebuillt all my calipers, and fitted braided hoses, and ebc hh pads and it doesn't even compare to how it was before. Taking the calipers apart isn't hard (ok I lie jambo done mine! lol) but it's well worth it. The bike actaully goes faster now in a straight line, shows how much the brakes were dragging before.

[starks]

its pointless having a decent braking set up if the standard suspension hasn't been sorted at the front

[Viney]

ah okay thank you . is there anyone in my area that knows how to bleed breaks etc?Its BRAKES! ;)

Look save some money. There is no way a set of pads are £35 a side! £19 a side from Wemoto and thst for HH pads etc. I get mine from Hein Gericke and last time i bought them there were about £18 a side. Not sure ont he hoses, but you only need standard pads in the rear. I found no benefit to fitting sintered pads in the rear caliper. Hoses from Busters. My last set came form there and they where at the time, the cheapest i could find.

Bleeding brakes is an art. Some find it easy, some dont. ITs all about technique. It took me a long while to get the knack and i am a pretty competent mechanic car wise!

If youa re not sure, get someone to help. You dont need Easybleed, or a mity vac when you know how.

[Viney]

its pointless having a decent braking set up if the standard suspension hasn't been sorted at the frontDisagree to a point. I know where youa re coming from, but hoses and pads isnt really a decent braking system. Its giving slightly more bite to the pads. If you where to chuck on a set of 6 pots then i would agree.

[starks]

Disagree to a point. I know where youa re coming from, but hoses and pads isnt really a decent braking system. Its giving slightly more bite to the pads. If you where to chuck on a set of 6 pots then i would agree.

fair play lol, but you get my point, power is nothing without control, going or stopping, I got my suspension sorted first before i even looked at doing anything to the brakes, it made a hell of a difference with the front not diving everytime i touched the front brake, then i got the braided lines and sintered pads and it felt better again, plenty enough stopping power for an SV:D

[Viney]

fair play lol, but you get my point, power is nothing without control, going or stopping, I got my suspension sorted first before i even looked at doing anything to the brakes, it made a hell of a difference with the front not diving everytime i touched the front brake, then i got the braided lines and sintered pads and it felt better again, plenty enough stopping power for an SV:D
This all said my girlfriends bike is std apart from sintered pads, and jumping form my bike to hers, the difference is so negligable its really not worth the expediture and hassle. Mine has uprated springs, oil braided hoses and sintered pads. Both bikes the same age, mine has 60+k on the clock, hers a tad over 24k. Mines had newish discs and calipers. I still think that most of this stuff ont he SV is in the head, it really is, and its not until you jump form one bike to the other that you notice these things.