psp go

[zsv650]

who else is looking forward to it gonna trade my first gen psp for it look's really good and a new metal gear solid coming out for it too.

[mcsmarts]

i will wait till its hacked

[zsv650]

i will wait till its hacked
that'll be day after launch then :wink:

[SoulKiss]

Why would you?

Its stupidly expensive/over priced,looks like it will give you cramp in your hands in minutes, reviews have said the controls give no feedback and none of your old games can be loaded due to the lack of a UMD drive.

Oh and its got a tiny screen...

[zsv650]

Why would you?

Its stupidly expensive/over priced,looks like it will give you cramp in your hands in minutes, reviews have said the controls give no feedback and none of your old games can be loaded due to the lack of a UMD drive.

Oh and its got a tiny screen...
that's not expensive the dsi is expensive when you look at what they give you.:D

[cF^]

My PSP1000 does everything I want it to, I really don't see the point of having a smaller or lighter one, it's not like it doesn't already fit in my bag/pocket so that's pretty much redundant. No idea how hackable the psp go will be and the screen is smaller on new one too so why change!

[DarrenSV650S]

so why change!

Fashion innit

[zsv650]

Fashion innit
i'd like to defend myself here i have never been fashionable that is all.

[DarrenSV650S]

Bling bling then

[zsv650]

Bling bling then
isnt that the same as fashion :confused: anyway which model is the psp1000 i have the launch console and it's mahoosive and i can't play it outside because the screen's reflecting or summat so you can't see anything which is mainly what i want to use a portable console for.

[DarrenSV650S]

No bling bling isn't fashion

[zsv650]

so i take it everybody hate's the psp go then i thought you lot were quite techy with your iphone's and all that other carp haha.

[DarrenSV650S]

I've no idea about it I was just messin lol

[sinbad]

so i take it everybody hate's the psp go then i thought you lot were quite techy with your iphone's and all that other carp haha.

I think it looks okay, but I certainly wouldn't swap my 2000 for one. Every game released after Go is launched will be compatible with every other PSP, so if you already have one I don't see the point.

Gran Turismo looks like it might be okay, I think they're both out around the same time.

[zsv650]

i do need to upgrade mine though to at least something where i can see the screen outside maybe a 3000 would save about £50 i still like the idea of the go as i won't have to carry all my umd's with me.

[lukemillar]

I don't get it? Why would you want to hack it? It's just a games console, right?

[DarrenSV650S]

I don't get it? Why would you want to hack it? It's just a games console, right?
Cheapy cheapy looky looky games, I think

[lukemillar]

Cheapy cheapy looky looky games, I think

Seriously!? Man, how tight can people get! :rolleyes:

[madnlooney]

i still have my psp 1000 from launch day going strong. keeps me busy sometimes on long nights

[Stu]

Seriously!? Man, how tight can people get! :rolleyes:
:confused:
I was offered over 200 games for free for a hacked PSP. buying them new at what? £30 each? would be 6 Grand :shock:

Can I give you my paypal account details if you've got that much money to spare? ;)

[lukemillar]

:confused:
I was offered over 200 games for free for a hacked PSP. buying them new at what? £30 each? would be 6 Grand :shock:

Can I give you my paypal account details if you've got that much money to spare? ;)

Stu, if it costs 6 grand for 200 games then it costs 6 grand. I saw a nice Aston Martin the other day, but I don't want to pay $250,000 for it. I know - I'll just steal it. Just because it is digital - doesn't mean it's free and it is incredibly arrogant to assume so.

If you buy a game then the people who created the games would get paid. I'm sure they don't start companies, develop games for various platforms, just so you can hack them for free.

This attituide winds me up. If your bike ever gets stolen, i'll remind you that it is just another person who doesn't want to pay for something and that you should have just trasnferred the value of the bike into their paypal account, instead of them stealing it.

[DarrenSV650S]

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/eating-popcorn-03.gif

[Stu]

Just because it is digital - doesn't mean it's free and it is incredibly arrogant to assume so.


Ah, :oops: I totally see where you're coming from.
But the difference is when you steal digital information you don't deprive the owner of it.

(A bit like in Transformers if an Autobot or Decepticon scanned your $250,000 Aston Martin ;) how upset would you be?)

As for depriving the creator of £6,000 - well that was never an issue as I would never contemplate buying as much as that (as it was I only took a dozen)

Mine is a difficult position to justify, but the fact of not depriving the owner makes a comparison with physical theft also hard to justify. :neutral:

[SoulKiss]

Right - can of worms time :)

At one point I had 2x PSP-1000 (one black, one white, with the black one running Hacked Firmware and the white one running Sony Firmware.

Then the PSP-2000 came out about when the Hacked Firmware got really good (quick updates to it - the reason for 2 previously was so I could play the newest games that needed a firmware level higher than the available Hacked one.

I sold my white PSP-1000 to a guy at work and bought a PSP-2000, which I also hacked and is the one most used now - the PSP-1000 always had a dodgy pixel (which Sony were not interested in fixing...), so the PSP-1000 sits not doing much (except when a mate comes round and we decide to play something head to head on the wifi.

So why was Hacked Firmware so important to me that I got a second PSP

I could go on about the great homebrew scene, how it was great to have a PDF viewer on it, or to play old Nintendo/Sega games on the emulators that had been ported.

I would like to also be able to mention the dozens of really bad games I bought, but to be honest with the exception of one of them, all the games I bought have been good.

The main reason is the ability to use ISO images of the games off the memory stick as opposed to the UMD drive.

This gives the ability to "carry" 12+ games (on an 8GB memory stick) without risking loss/damage to the UMD's, gives quicker load-times and means the battery lasts longer as it doesnt have to drive the UMD drive motor.

Yes I can download games from the net and play for free, but many of the ones I have tried would have gotten me angry at having wasted so much money on them as they are really bad.

Also as Stu says, if you dont have the money to buy a game, when you copy it no-one loses, as you wouldn't have spent it on that anyway. I do, however buy any game that I download an then find is worth the money, admittedly usually once its dropped off the original "new game premium" price point.

So yes, part of the "un-attraction" of the PSP-Go is that it will take a while to be cracked (if ever), but the main bit is the cost - a LOT more than a PSP, and the fact that sometimes you can make a device too small. I also dont see how the little screen will be any easier to see on a sunny day.

I WILL probably have one at some point, but only when its cheaper, AND it does what I want it to do, not just what Sony will allow me to do with it.

[Viney]

Stu, if it costs 6 grand for 200 games then it costs 6 grand. I saw a nice Aston Martin the other day, but I don't want to pay $250,000 for it. I know - I'll just steal it. Just because it is digital - doesn't mean it's free and it is incredibly arrogant to assume so.

If you buy a game then the people who created the games would get paid. I'm sure they don't start companies, develop games for various platforms, just so you can hack them for free.

This attituide winds me up. If your bike ever gets stolen, i'll remind you that it is just another person who doesn't want to pay for something and that you should have just trasnferred the value of the bike into their paypal account, instead of them stealing it.My mate is soon to loose his job because of this. He works for a gmes company and so far the american and german arm of the company have gone pop. In the end his division will go the same way and he will be out of a job, all because of falling game sales.

[SoulKiss]

My mate is soon to loose his job because of this. He works for a gmes company and so far the american and german arm of the company have gone pop. In the end his division will go the same way and he will be out of a job, all because of falling game sales.

If people cant afford their mortgage, then they cannot afford games - simples.

Just because the are playing a game they downloaded, doesn't mean they would be playing it after paying for it if it wasn't available for free.

Also the number of duff/boring/rubbish games that get released makes people wary about buying more in case they are equally duff.

Games have gotten to be too expensive, but then it costs a lot to make games these days, but in times of less disposable income, its difficult to find value in paying £60 for half of the games that are released.

In the "golden age" you could get Codemasters games for £1.99...

[hindle8907]

I have to Agree with Soulkiss that games are over priced and alot of them are Crap games .
I download/Backup Games, Movies, Music ,ect ect ... for lots of diffrent platforms Wii,DS,Xbox360,PC
If i think a game is good i will go out and buy the original . same with movies / music

but £45+ for a new release is Crazy

[cF^]

Nobody remembers paying £60-£70 for a brand new SNES/N64 game then? because I do! Games have always been pricey. Personally i'm willing to wait 6 months for the price to drop and enjoy the same game a little later for a fraction of the price.

[SoulKiss]

Nobody remembers paying £60-£70 for a brand new SNES/N64 game then? because I do! Games have always been pricey. Personally i'm willing to wait 6 months for the price to drop and enjoy the same game a little later for a fraction of the price.

Nope, never had either of those systems because they were hideously expensive...

[zsv650]

psp game's arnt that much anyway £18 most of them new.

[SoulKiss]

psp game's arnt that much anyway £18 most of them new.

Where are you getting that info?

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/navigate.do?ctx=-1;6;-1;-1;-1&pGroupID=6&pSubGroupID=38

Says £25-£30.

[mcsmarts]

My mate is soon to loose his job because of this. He works for a gmes company and so far the american and german arm of the company have gone pop. In the end his division will go the same way and he will be out of a job, all because of falling game sales.

oh god really well i feel so bad

i mean i will go out and pay like £40 a game...na stuff that i would just give up playing games then....still same result for him i am afraid:rolleyes:

[hindle8907]

http://www.gamesearchuk.com/ is like a comparison site for games. its quite good .

[keithd]

i dont own a PSP wii xbox nor not nufink else neither

am i a freak?

[SoulKiss]

i dont own a PSP wii xbox nor not nufink else neither

am i a freak?

No, you just have a life...

[mcsmarts]

or your not married....

[SoulKiss]

http://www.gamesearchuk.com/ is like a comparison site for games. its quite good .

Yeah, but the price you have to look at is the "I want to buy a game to play now" price - ie the Highstreet Price.

[hindle8907]

Yeah, but the price you have to look at is the "I want to buy a game to play now" price - ie the Highstreet Price.

Yeah i know ,

just thought i would share the link with peeps

[zsv650]

Where are you getting that info?

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/navigate.do?ctx=-1;6;-1;-1;-1&pGroupID=6&pSubGroupID=38

Says £25-£30.
that's your problem why you buying them from a record shop.

[madnlooney]

Nobody remembers paying £60-£70 for a brand new SNES/N64 game then? because I do! Games have always been pricey. Personally i'm willing to wait 6 months for the price to drop and enjoy the same game a little later for a fraction of the price.

sure do. remember paying £47 for bomberman on snes

[DarrenSV650S]

sure do. remember paying £47 for bomberman on snes
Are you sure it wasn't £48 ???

[madnlooney]

might of been or maybe £46

[lukemillar]

Mine is a difficult position to justify, but the fact of not depriving the owner makes a comparison with physical theft also hard to justify. :neutral:

Most games companies are actually pretty small and make no money unless a game becomes successful. By successful, I mean distribution and hit the shops, not top 10 games ever successful. They invest a lot of money into developing games and most won't see the light of day. If said company spent 10k developing a game yet only got 5k back in revenue as most people just downloaded, then there is a physical loss.

End of the day - there is no justification for downloading games, no matter how righteously you write it (SK) The whole, trying to see if it's good argument is just designed to make yourself feel better. If you download a game and then complete it, you're not going to then go out and buy it. The "well, I would buy it anyway, so they wouldn't get my money anyway" argument is even more pathetic.

End of the day, it is simple- What you are doing is illegal and does affect people in a physical way. You can paint it however you like to make yourself feel better for doing it, but there is no way you can justify it. I'm pretty sure that nothing I say will have any effect. Those who are torrent bitches will always be torrent bitches. Just please don't bleat on here about how you are justified doing what you are doing, because at the end of the day, there is no argument.

[madnlooney]

i think if they did demo discs it would be better. the amount of money wasted in peoples eyes because a game they got was rubbish must put people off the full price too

[hindle8907]

im sure they could still make a healthy profit if they sold the games for £20-25 instead of £40-45 .

[hindle8907]

you can get a new xbox360 for the price of 3 Top Titles .

[madnlooney]

new call of duty when it comes out in November is £55. at that price no wonder people would rather download it.

[Stu]

@ lukemillar
Are you allowed 2 End of the day's? ;)

Fairy muff :( but it's like someone coming on here and suggesting that fracturing a speed limit is in some way illegal and therefore we shouldn't do it ;)

im sure they could still make a healthy profit if they sold the games for £20-25 instead of £40-45 .
What business modelling research analysis have you doneto justify this? and how do you even know how much the games designers earn compared with the retail outlets?
you can get a new xbox360 for the price of 3 Top Titles .
And how do you know the cost of developing & manufacturing either the hardware or the software. A better comparison I would guess would be the Xbox 360 against a computer. Or Top Titles against compter software (which could be £100s or £1,000s)

[hindle8907]

@ lukemillar
Are you allowed 2 End of the day's? ;)

Fairy muff :( but it's like someone coming on here and suggesting that fracturing a speed limit is in some way illegal and therefore we shouldn't do it ;)


What business modelling research analysis have you doneto justify this? and how do you even know how much the games designers earn compared with the retail outlets?

And how do you know the cost of developing & manufacturing either the hardware or the software. A better comparison I would guess would be the Xbox 360 against a computer. Or Top Titles against compter software (which could be £100s or £1,000s)

because i read allot of gaming magazines and own every console available and read allot of articles on the Internet ..

most Game developers that release major titles make a profit in the first week or so ... EG GTA4 ... Call of duty games ... Gears of war ... Halo Ect Ect ....


and you cant compare it to PC software at all as a PC is used for many things ... Web design ... programing ...flash ... ect ect... which is aimed at businesses they can charge what they want ....

a console is made for gaming ......

did you know that call of duty world at war has released 3 map packs and in total would have made a profit just from that so ???

come back when you have done more research !

[zsv650]

what pee's me off is when they release dlc that was clearly cut from the game and have the cheek to charge for it.

[hindle8907]

what pee's me off is when they release dlc that was clearly cut from the game and have the cheek to charge for it.

+! exactly mate .... to make more money ....
....

[Stu]

come back when you have done more research !
OK clearly you know games more than me, but simple Capitalist market economy lets them set there prices at £40 instead of £20 because that's how they believe they make the most profit. Someone who illegally downloads a £40 game is just as likely to download a £20. I know because I saw the list of 200 titles I was offered ;)

:lol:

[hindle8907]

well take the 200 titles and lets stop arguring and start gaming :D ;)

[zsv650]

ahhh my psp is fubarred so i'm gonna have to get a 3000 now though there £135 for the consoleand a game now which is quite good i reckon gonna get god of war and resistance with it.

[zsv650]

bought the bundle just gotta wait for it to be delivered the download side of the go put me off in the end as i've had a look on the store and they're all much more to download digitally than to buy the actual game in umd format.

[ethariel]

Game on the PC costs 29.99 or 34.99, on a console it's 44.99+, same media, mostly same code, often ported TO the PC, not from these days.

I will DL a game now and again, if it's any good, i'll happily sheel out folding for it, if it's crap then 'Phew just saved mesself a handfull of folding!'.

Most of the time i'm paying for MMORPG's anyhow.

As far as my PSP goes - i don't play games on it, but it is great to sit on the train in the winter when the road outside the house is iced up and watch movies on (Phone screen can also be used but it's a PHONE fer gawds sakes, LOL.

[zsv650]

big question when the psp go is released will the game's still be coming on to the standard psp and if not will they be able to play them downloaded through the store.

[Iansv II]

Going to stick with my old favourite

http://www.p45blogs.net/retrometro/archives/Grandstand-FirefoxF7.jpg

Still addictive after all these years

[sinbad]

big question when the psp go is released will the game's still be coming on to the standard psp and if not will they be able to play them downloaded through the store.

Yes, they will still be released on UMD also.

[zsv650]

Yes, they will still be released on UMD also.
good to know cheer's.:D