do white socks help when filtering?

[skeetly]

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs188.snc1/6289_1111128779134_1254322457_30350212_1009634_n.j pg

[Spiderman]

well he's ot a nice clear lane in front of him and i cant see any other reason for it myself.

[Whitehouse]

id be more worried about the ak47 hes got on his back!!!

[GeneticBubble]

id be more worried about the ak47 hes got on his back!!!


I was to busy looking at his socks to notice the gun :smt046

[Gerry]

OMG... I thought MJ was dead :smt104

[wyrdness]

id be more worried about the ak47 hes got on his back!!!

I reckon that an AK-47 would really help with filtering, especially in London. Cage won't get out of your way? Bang, bang! Driver on mobile phone and weaving all over the road? Bang, bang, bang!

[xXBADGERXx]

A mate of mine just said "That`s not an AK47 , it`s a Kalshnikov"
I just looked at him and said "Google Kalashnikov and select images"
His reply "Well bugger me , Kalashnikov make a copy of the AK"
My reply , "They MAKE the AK you IGNORAMUS"

[Spiderman]

I forget what the A in AK stands for but the K is for Kalashnikov. Its the designers name isn't it? And the 47 dentes the model number he got to before he was happy with it if i'm not wrong.

your mate must be a laugh and a half...even when he's not trying. Or very, very dim :lol:

[xXBADGERXx]

your mate must be a laugh and a half...even when he's not trying. Or very, very dim :lol:

You don`t know the half of it , I could write a book about him and you would say that 90% of it was Bull Ploppy . I gave the best man speech at his wedding and talked about him for 30 minutes and people had tears streaming down their faces ........ he came out of that a winner despite my best attempts to ruin him :smt017:cool:

[skeetly]

Ak 47 just means automatic rifle made by (mikhail) Kalshnikov in 1947 :)

Im pretty sure he was awarded some sort of 'hero of russia' type thing for designing it :)

[Spiderman]

Its great havng friends who make you laugh just by being themselves. I knew an irish fella like that once. He'd get a takeaway pizza and then put it in a normal carrier bag and take it home. And then always wonder why he had bunched up base and lots of toppings all on one side of the box, lol.

[xXBADGERXx]

ummmmmmm , gonna admit something now , when I had my Supermoto I used to order a pizza , get to the place , roll it up like a ciggy , drop it in a bag and slot it down the front of my jacket and hoon it hone asap before the grease got to the bottom of the bag . I would be home 3 minutes later and unroll my Pizza and munch away happily ............. helps to buy a stuffed crust as well and not have too crispy a base to it ;)

[Spiderman]

Ak 47 just means automatic rifle made by (mikhail) Kalshnikov in 1947 :)

Im pretty sure he was awarded some sort of 'hero of russia' type thing for designing it :)

Ah yeh, i knew it was somethng along those lines. Thanks for that.
Its also the most widely copied small arm under licence and has the most variations based on the central design too i believe as well as apparently being the easiest to strip down and reassemble etc.

[xXBADGERXx]

Ah yeh, i knew it was somethng along those lines. Thanks for that.
Its also the most widely copied small arm under licence and has the most variations based on the central design too i believe as well as apparently being the easiest to strip down and reassemble etc.

They have been found abandoned in the jungles of Vietnam in a terrible state , pock-marked with corrosion , weevils living in the stock , barrels rusted to buggery inside . Stripped and oiled they apparently work due to their "Tolerances" being a bit vague when machined . They are the CX500 of the gun world IMHO .

[Spiderman]

ummmmmmm , gonna admit something now , when I had my Supermoto I used to order a pizza , get to the place , roll it up like a ciggy , drop it in a bag and slot it down the front of my jacket and hoon it hone asap before the grease got to the bottom of the bag . I would be home 3 minutes later and unroll my Pizza and munch away happily ............. helps to buy a stuffed crust as well and not have too crispy a base to it ;)

See now thats fair enough to me if thats the best choice for you mode of transport. I'd probably do the same tbh. I'm forever telling the guys at the local KFC not to put the chicken in boxes so i can stuff it doen the front on my jacket more easily, lol.

George on the other hand, used to walk home from the takeaway that was less than a 5 min walk :lol:

[davepreston]

when you absaloutly possitivly have to kill every mother ****er in a room, accept no supstitute
ak 47, 10 million terrorists cant be wrong
imho the 2nd best firearm ever made after the barrett light 50
and yes if i could roll down the street with one on my back i certainly would

[Razor]

Avtomat Kalashnikova model 1947

Looks like the USA in the pic, maybe he got that buy a harley get a free AK deal?

[Kinvig]

GUN!!!!!!

[SoulKiss]

I reckon that an AK-47 would really help with filtering, especially in London. Cage won't get out of your way? Bang, bang! Driver on mobile phone and weaving all over the road? Bang, bang, bang!

Dont let Vixis see this post - she's already muttering about a painball gun with the paintballs drained and filled with Cat Pee (frozen)

[Sally]

Dont let Vixis see this post - she's already muttering about a painball gun with the paintballs drained and filled with Cat Pee (frozen)

Is this for London riding?

Want something a bit more harsh, freeze eggs. :|

[SoulKiss]

Is this for London riding?

Want something a bit more harsh, freeze eggs. :|

Paintball guns dont fire eggs tho :(

[Sally]

Catapults do though :)

[xXBADGERXx]

You need 2 hands for a Catapult , makes it a bit hard to aim whilst riding

[SoulKiss]

You need 2 hands for a Catapult , makes it a bit hard to aim whilst riding

Vixis pillions, so has 2 hands :)

[ArtyLady]

A mate of mine just said "That`s not an AK47 , it`s a Kalshnikov"
I just looked at him and said "Google Kalashnikov and select images"
His reply "Well bugger me , Kalashnikov make a copy of the AK"
My reply , "They MAKE the AK you IGNORAMUS"

Anorak! ;)

[SoulKiss]

Anorak! ;)

No, this is being an anorak... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ak47)

[Biker Biggles]

Anyway,back to the OP.
I reckon those socks would part the traffic on the M11.
Essex boys know a pair of socks when they see one.

[Nick_69]

Ak 47 just means automatic rifle made by (mikhail) Kalshnikov in 1947 :)

Im pretty sure he was awarded some sort of 'hero of russia' type thing for designing it :)

Correct.

What many people don't know is that Israel changed the AK 47 by bring the first sight back to the butt of the gun and changing the stock, which increased the accuracy of it ten fold, they called it the Galil. They also made a 5.56m instead of the 7.62m

[yorkie_chris]

I forget what the A in AK stands for

Avtomat.
There is some controversy over how much the AK was "influenced" by the German StG44, but the StG used a tilting bolt quite similar to a gas-op shotgun rather than the rotating bolt of the AK.

Correct.

What many people don't know is that Israel changed the AK 47 by bring the first sight back to the butt of the gun and changing the stock, which increased the accuracy of it ten fold, they called it the Galil. They also made a 5.56m instead of the 7.62m

I think a weapon chambered for 5.56m might be a bit of a handful :-P

Useless trivia; the isreali galil series is chambered for the .223 win mag cartridge (5.56 NATO), whereas the Russians use 5.45mm.

[Nick_69]

Avtomat.
There is some controversy over how much the AK was "influenced" by the German StG44, but the StG used a tilting bolt quite similar to a gas-op shotgun rather than the rotating bolt of the AK.



I think a weapon chambered for 5.56m might be a bit of a handful :-P

Useless trivia; the isreali galil series is chambered for the .223 win mag cartridge (5.56 NATO), whereas the Russians use 5.45mm.

Nato went with america when they choose to use the 5.56 on the M16 in the late sixties and russia especialy at the time when bullet development was at its peak would never have anything the same as america.
Also nato new that the 7.62 round was causing alot of un needed damage to the surrounding area.

[yorkie_chris]

More fussed about 7.62 being too heavy and uncontrollable in fully automatic. Have you ever fired an M14?

[keith_d]

I've never fired a 7.62, but I heard a couple of stories about the FN being a bit too effective in Belfast.

One family were reportedly in a flat several hundred yards from a foot patrol that came under fire. A couple of 7.62 rounds entered through one kitchen wall and exited through the other.

In other cases snipers hiding behind walls were shot - through the wall. Even if the rounds didn't penetrate they spalled off enough brick to force the scrote out of cover.

[skeetly]

Nato went with america when they choose to use the 5.56 on the M16 in the late sixties and russia especialy at the time when bullet development was at its peak would never have anything the same as america.
Also nato new that the 7.62 round was causing alot of un needed damage to the surrounding area.

Im pretty sure them SLR's had 7.62 all the way into the 80's..

[Specialone]

I have fired 2 different ak copies in Texas, one was bought legally for $200 dollars from a gun show.
Dead easy to use except the legal versions over there cant run on full auto due to their laws on automatic weapons, but many adapt them back to auto i believe.
For a gun which looks like crap, it very accurate.
Even my mrs had a go :D
We shot the crap out of an old turntable deck, twas a good day.
Filmed some with my sony 8mm camera, must dig that out, aint watched that for years.
On a different note, on my honeymoon in florida in 99' i took the mrs to a firing range and we hired a 9mm berretta and 100 rounds, there's romance for you.
Anyway enough rambling, sorry for assisting in derail.

[Spiderman]

The nuttiest weapon i ever had the pleasure to be let loose on was a Franch Spas 12. The worlds only semi auto shotgun, keep pulling thr trigger as fats as you dare and hang on for dear life until all 12 rounds are done. Reload and enjoy till you run out of rounds.

[Razor]

Correct.

What many people don't know is that Israel changed the AK 47 by bring the first sight back to the butt of the gun and changing the stock, which increased the accuracy of it ten fold, they called it the Galil. They also made a 5.56m instead of the 7.62m

The Finnish Valmet was more the basis for the Galil.


I think a weapon chambered for 5.56m might be a bit of a handful :-P

Useless trivia; the isreali galil series is chambered for the .223 win mag cartridge (5.56 NATO), whereas the Russians use 5.45mm.

Galil comes in .223 Remington (5.56mmx45mm) The Russian 5.45mm is for the AK 74.

Nato went with america when they choose to use the 5.56 on the M16 in the late sixties and russia especialy at the time when bullet development was at its peak would never have anything the same as america.
Also nato new that the 7.62 round was causing alot of un needed damage to the surrounding area.

Us Brits wanted a smaller round in the fifties, .280 British. Read this EM2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle)
I don't think bullet development peaked then, probably more at the point when H&K announced their caseless 4.7mm.

Im pretty sure them SLR's had 7.62 all the way into the 80's..

Up until 1987 AFAIK.

Following the Americans has always been a mistake, in cartridge adoption and foreign policy.

[Razor]

The nuttiest weapon i ever had the pleasure to be let loose on was a Franch Spas 12. The worlds only semi auto shotgun, keep pulling thr trigger as fats as you dare and hang on for dear life until all 12 rounds are done. Reload and enjoy till you run out of rounds.

Hardly the world's only semi auto. The SPAS 12 was kinda of unique being that it could either be semi auto or pump action, but it was heavy and complicated. If it was 12 rounds it would have had a long barrel length to accomodate the tubular magazine under the barrel.

Since then, Benelli have a M3 super 90 which is also pump or semi auto, lighter and Benelli have a better semi auto system than Franchi, who made the SPAS 12.

I prefer the semi auto only M2 Benelli (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2zR5OQkYWw).

[Nick_69]

Im pretty sure them SLR's had 7.62 all the way into the 80's..

That is why we then ditched the SLR for the SA80 which was made with the same magzine housing and firing as the american M16, so if you ever round out of ammo you could ask a american coz he will have loads left lol:smt070

[ArtyLady]

OMG............Anorak alert........Anorak alert!!!! :geek:

[Razor]

The STANAG magazine adoption is NATO wide, it's just the Americans always get their way. They did, for once, have a point M16 style mags are easier to get locked in under stress compared to european rock and click style magazines, like the L1A1(FN), G3, AK style rifles.

[Specialone]

The nuttiest weapon i ever had the pleasure to be let loose on was a Franch Spas 12. The worlds only semi auto shotgun, keep pulling thr trigger as fats as you dare and hang on for dear life until all 12 rounds are done. Reload and enjoy till you run out of rounds.

On the same trip to texas, i was on the land of a prison guard who worked in Huntsville, prison capital,.
i fired a few rounds of his police issue shotgun, i think that might of been semi auto, cant remember what it was.
I fired some single shot shells, with huge hollowed out points, they were deadly and huge.
I think they would have took an elephant down no probs.
The same guy had a big arsenal of weapons, mac 10, which i fired 10 rounds on full auto, big barrell .44 magnum, little derringer handbag type guns with two barrells on top of each other, single shot in each, i think .22 calibre. Unbelievablely powerful with alot of re-coil.
Phil

[yorkie_chris]

Those little revolvers are horrible weapons, meant for concealed carry I think I'd rather hand my wallet over than fire one. Feels like they're tying your fingers in a knot!

[Specialone]

Those little revolvers are horrible weapons, meant for concealed carry I think I'd rather hand my wallet over than fire one. Feels like they're tying your fingers in a knot!

My friend who i was hanging with (local texan, who was born in chicago), his mom of 80 carried something similar with her all the time, some guy would have got the shock of his life if he tried to rob her, she would have used it as well, she took no poo.

[yorkie_chris]

A friend of mine had a hilarious one, doctor told him he was a fat git and to do some exercise, so he took up walking to the gun club rather than driving. The smackhead who pulled a knife on him got rather a shock when he ended up looking down a 45ACP barrel. I suspect he would have been rather more shocked if he had known it was always carried loaded with a rather "warm" handload cartridge with SJHP rounds...

[Spiderman]

On the same trip to texas, i was on the land of a prison guard who worked in Huntsville, prison capital,.
i fired a few rounds of his police issue shotgun, i think that might of been semi auto, cant remember what it was.
I fired some single shot shells, with huge hollowed out points, they were deadly and huge.
I think they would have took an elephant down no probs.
The same guy had a big arsenal of weapons, mac 10, which i fired 10 rounds on full auto, big barrell .44 magnum, little derringer handbag type guns with two barrells on top of each other, single shot in each, i think .22 calibre. Unbelievablely powerful with alot of re-coil.
Phil

Sounds like an ace honeymood, lot of firing of guns and lots of sex! You da man :lol:

[Specialone]

Sounds like an ace honeymoon, lot of firing of guns and lots of sex! You da man :lol:

Not sure about the sex , no time :rolleyes:

[Razor]

One for the "it could never happen here" (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6796403.ece) file...

[Spiderman]

Not sure about the sex , no time :rolleyes:

:lol:

[Stu]

Am I the only one thats a little bit more worried about Razor? 8-[

[Spiderman]

Why? Razor is pretty cool in my books. I wish (s)he'd come to soho sometime so we could put a face to the name.

Razor we dont bite you know :)

[Razor]

Am I the only one thats a little bit more worried about Razor? 8-[

More worried?

Why? Razor is pretty cool in my books. I wish (s)he'd come to soho sometime so we could put a face to the name.

Razor we dont bite you know :)

Thanks, but I don't live anywhere near Soho...

[Spiderman]

Yeh i know, it was just the general idea that you would fit right in at Soho mate :)

[Razor]

Ta, but I don't hang out with folks like that, or do that kind of thing.

[Spiderman]

Ta, but I don't hang out with folks like that, or do that kind of thing.

I meant you'd fit in with us lot at soho and enjoy watching the local wildlife go about its business.

[Razor]

Wildlife in the city?

[Mej]

I reckon that an AK-47 would really help with filtering, especially in London. Cage won't get out of your way? Bang, bang! Driver on mobile phone and weaving all over the road? Bang, bang, bang!

pmsl

[Samurai Penguin]

Looks more like an AK74 to me.

[Razor]

No muzzle brake and curvature of magazine is slightly different, in the USA minimum barrel length for all rifles is 16", unless you're going down the Class III route, barrel is longer than military AK47.