Duchinni helmets - any thoughts?

[metalangel]

Need a new helmet to replace my 'used' Shark... saw a nice looking blue Duchinni in JT's, £89.99, with a very handly flip-down sunvisor.

Not a brand I'd heard of before, anyone have any thoughts or experiences of these?

EDIT: Never mind, I got a lovely HJC at half price from Hein Gericke instead.

[BestBikesArmagh]

don't go effing near them.
chinese dung !

[evertheoptimist]

Ive got a duchinni (D601 Flip) and theres a bit of plastic just above the visor that kept dropping down which was annoying, also no sun visor love the double d fastening though this is still the best perfect fit every time. The main problem I have with this helmet is its very low at the front which means you cannot fully turn your head to the left or right as the low front catches your shoulder , so if you require good all round visibility, for instance riding in cities then Dont buy one of these.

[Holdup]

don't go effing near them.
chinese dung !

Where i work we sell them!!!

Theyre cheap, id always advise of getting something better but tbh its a cheap lid and the end of the day its what you pay for, ive sold quite a few no ones complained about them and theyre usually happy with them, mainly its the younger people who are just starting out that buy them.

EDIT: just read OP post date!

[Lozzo]

don't go effing near them.
chinese dung !


This could be seen as a really helpful and insightful post that brings so much of use to the original poster. I'm sure someone somewhere will see that your in depth explanation as to the pros and cons of buying a Duchini helmet will go a long way to helping the end user decide what helmet he or she would like to purchase.

But personally I think you're an ignorant jerk who hasn't a clue what he's on about and just sits there unshaven in his grubby y-fronts and tattered vest with his fists banging away at the keyboard regardless, with his snot infested spittle hitting the screen in chunks - but then again what do I know, I was only the area sales manager of a Chinese made and very well respected motorcycle helmet company for 3 years.

[John McCann]

So you were paid by a company importing chinese dung into the UK...you're nice and impartial then.

I will credit you with this...at least you're honest enough to declare your interests.

Quid pro quo, so will I.

I sell helmets and I try to stock brands that are of European manufacture.

I will never sell something to a customer that I would not be happy to buy myself.

Chinese manufacturing is appropriate in some product sectors but helmet production simply isn't one.

I think my original submission is useful to the original poster. Short and sweet. Cheap Chinese helmets are dung and are best avoided.

What would you have posted.....a long winded explanation about how modern chinese production methods are equaivalent to the best the West can offer ??? how current design standards are expertly executed by far eastern production facilities ??

I've heard them all friend and it's all rubbish.

Go to the roadside and tell it all to some unfortunate who has had a crash while wearing a chinese helmet.

Things are made in China because it is the cheapest place to get anything made- simple as that. Argue your case and I'll listen but you cannot escape that unavoidable fact.

And I didn't dribble any snot onto my keyboard in the process of typing this. I even used more than just my index fingers.

[Stu]

awaiting Lozzo's reply with interest :D

[yorkie_chris]

Only retort to that is "they have EU#####" written on box, they must be fine.

[Lozzo]

So you were paid by a company importing chinese dung into the UK...you're nice and impartial then.

I will credit you with this...at least you're honest enough to declare your interests.

Quid pro quo, so will I.

I sell helmets and I try to stock brands that are of European manufacture.

I will never sell something to a customer that I would not be happy to buy myself.

Chinese manufacturing is appropriate in some product sectors but helmet production simply isn't one.

I think my original submission is useful to the original poster. Short and sweet. Cheap Chinese helmets are dung and are best avoided.

What would you have posted.....a long winded explanation about how modern chinese production methods are equaivalent to the best the West can offer ??? how current design standards are expertly executed by far eastern production facilities ??

I've heard them all friend and it's all rubbish.

Go to the roadside and tell it all to some unfortunate who has had a crash while wearing a chinese helmet.

Things are made in China because it is the cheapest place to get anything made- simple as that. Argue your case and I'll listen but you cannot escape that unavoidable fact.

And I didn't dribble any snot onto my keyboard in the process of typing this. I even used more than just my index fingers.

I've only just seen this thread again because a customer at work said he'd googled for Duchini and found me replying to Mr McCann's original post.

Firstly, Mr McCann can't stock very many helmets because virtually none are produced in Europe nowadays. Those that are European aren't popular because they are a little dated in design and manufacture and bloody expensive for what they offer.

If he's thinking of AGV, then he may as well send his back, because most of them are now made in China as well. Personally I wouldn't put an AGV anywhere near the head of anyone who I liked, mainly because when the Ti-Tech came out me and three customers cracked the chinbars on brand new ones when trying them on in the shop. I sent all 24 of those I had in stock back and refused to ever sell another AGV of any model to any customer who walked in.

LEM? I'm not too familiar with the brand, mainly because no-one round here stocks it. If no-one stocks it then that's usually for a good reason, and not always because of the price. I believe they are Italian designed, but I'll be very surprised if they are Italian made. If they are... just think Ducati, Fiat and Alfa Romeo build quality and you've got the measure of Italian manufacturing standards.

Schuberths? Well, ancient in design and bloody heavy, not to mention extortionately priced. Not everyone can afford them, not everyone likes the weird look of them. Very few people buy them. They are quiet though, they have to have one thing going in their favour. IAM types and BMW owners love them, so that rules them right out as far as I'm concerned.

Talk about limiting your market.

China can and does produce some quality goods, known brand helmets such as Duchini and Nitro are some of them. The random batch testing involved means they have to meet strict quality control standards. Where Chinese helmets are let down is in the quality of the comfort linings inside, the cheap and fiddly easily broken visor mechs found on some and the dubious ventilation systems found on lower priced ones. The actual safety of the helmets is as good as the law requires and no-one, not even Mr McCann, can doubt that.

I've crashed twice wearing Nitros - both times my head hit the tarmac hard and once it also hit a car heavily. Both helmets were deemed scrap by me afterwards because they showed obvious signs of crashing. But I walked (hobbled from one with a broken ankle) away with no head damage. I didn't mind scrapping either helmet because it did exactly what I expected of it and was treated as a 'crash once, bin straight after' item.

As Yorkie-Chris says. They are made to a European safety standard, so they must be ok to an extent. A 50 quid helmet is never going to be as good as a 300 quid helmet, but if your customer only has 50 quid to spend then you may as well put him in a Duchini or Nitro. It's not my job to judge people on their ability to afford stuff or impose my xenophobic views on Chinese production methods on my customers, it's my job to put them in the best they can afford. (except where Chinese bikes and scooters are concerned because they really are **** and not worth buying, and that includes the AJS stuff he stocks)

I'd be interested to know where Mr McCann thinks the Berik and RST clothing he stocks is made, because I can tell you that 100% of RST is made in Chinese or Pakistani sweat shops and Berik is all made in the Madiff Industries factories in Hong Kong. Now I'm not knocking that, because both brands have a good reputation, especially the Berik because they have their own quality control as they make all their own gear not farm it out to whoever comes up cheapest on price. I just feel Mr McCann needs to get some perspective on things.

[Bibio]

i really don't know why people go on and on about Chinese manufacturing. its not the Chinese that cheapen things out its the company's that get their stuff produced there.

what happens is that a lot of these manufacturers in china are bullied into making items cheaper once they have set up tooling. so its only inevitable that they are going to cut corners.

there are however other companies that encourage better and better production line standards and don't force an issue with costs.

the Chinese are very capable of making high quality gear that puts European and rest of world manufacturing to shame. they are like everyone else they will make it to a cost and if a certain company insist on cheep production costs then that's exactly what they get.

and i'm going to quote it again just so as it sinks into people.

'its not the badge on the helmet its the fit' got that...........

every helmet that is sold in the uk (apart from black market stuff) is tested and certified to meet a minimum specification. if this specification is not met then they don't get sold to joe public. simples.

what you do pay for in more expensive helmets is spares availability and other things such as lightness or comfort.