Loud cans

[ogden]

What's the point?

Is there some way in which sticking a loud can on an SV650 is any different to a 17 year old sticking a baked-bean can exhaust on his Citroen Saxo?

[speedplay]

'cause its cool innit ;)

[hovis]

apart from the safty factor (people can hear you coming)

its cos we is all 17 at heart like innit

[hindle8907]

what do you mean what's the point lol, makes your bike sound mean with a nice grunt .

17 year olds sticking loud cans on just makes the car sound crap and makes you want to hit them with a banana.

i wouldn't mind if they was driving Subaru but all the little 1.2 boy racers just make them self look plain silly and when they drive past, you laff and think what a idiot .

when a bike goes past me with decent can on i think wow that sounded ace .

[plowsie]

Hacks me right off! All these loud cans!

'Itz coz it soundz sick innit!'

[SoulKiss]

To answer this in the manner and tone this question deserves.

Ogden you are a poo-poo pee-pee head

[dizzyblonde]

Suzy has a deep throbbing throaty growl......and I love it(YC hates it cause its louder than his now, ner ner, ner ner!!). She has BIG road presence.
I've always said to those that have asked why Suzy is so loud, my reply is..if you can't see a bright yellow bike, you'll sure as damn hear her coming first.

Dave has a quiet burble that suddenly leaps out into a huge roar that makes other road users realise I'm there, when I pull on the beans.

The SVs need noise, its simplez.
However i'm getting old and require earplugs, cause my old ears find loud cans hard to put up with..still wouldn't change them though.

[Brettus]

Feeling a little sheepish now but I like the sound mine makes, I had pondered the chavvy side of it but decided to anyway. It does have an effect on people pulling out in front of me, not that its a safety thing to be relied on, but as tesco say, every little helps.

The thing with doing it to an SV is it CAN sound so much better without the stock muffler. rather than just making it louder it adjusts the tone etc.

Some people like the V-Twin sound aswell as the power characteristics.

It may be a phase I'll grow out of, but had to do it at least once :-)

[Dave20046]

Personal preference, I've been knocked with standard cans on before; the bike was near silent. My SV's have always had aftermarket cans on and traffic seems to part like the red sea(?that was possibly an incorrect biblical reference) . No one checks their mirrors and this guy didn't have a chance of hearing me so IMO I was more vulnerable than I could have been. Feel better about having a can on.
Like to hear what my engine's doing over the windnoise too.

[dizzyblonde]

I may add to Daves post, that an SV with a good can, makes filtering so much easier, cars move out of your way, just a quick bark of bwaar bwwaaaar on the throttle sure does make the cars part like the red sea! Especially on a motorway jam :-)

[missyburd]

Suzy has a deep throbbing throaty growl......and I love it(YC hates it cause its louder than his now, ner ner, ner ner!!).

He's actually thinking of chopping his M4 can down now, it's no good being quiet (our idea of quiet anyway ;)).

I personally love the loudness of the bike, mainly because I love people's expressions as we go through busy villages, reading along the lines of "What the ?!$&*!!" But obviously the main reason is so people can hear us coming, we're on a black bike wearing black gear (personal choice) so might as well have a loud can and a floodlight as a headlight to make people notice! Although the bike does now have a bright red tank so we're not quite as inconspicuous now :)

[Dave20046]

Oh and loud cans are also useful for inadequate horns - and getting dogs to shut up.

[ogden]

The SVs need noise, its simplez.

I recently did a 2000-odd mile tour with a few mates, one of whom was on a bike with a full race system.

By the end of the trip I was just about ready to shove his exhaust up his ****. Even having him sitting next to me at péage gates with the engine at tickover was enough to make my brain rattle.

[ogden]

I personally love the loudness of the bike, mainly because I love people's expressions as we go through busy villages, reading along the lines of "What the ?!$&*!!"

I suspect you're deluding yourself if you think that's what their expressions mean.

[missyburd]

I suspect you're deluding yourself if you think that's what their expressions mean.

What, them thinking "What the heck is that?" I know some will be because I myself have experienced the same thought process when something loud rumbles in the distance. Some may be thinking other things yes but then i prefer not to delude myself with thoughts of owning psychic powers :)

[lukemillar]

I had a race can on my 675 and it just ****ed me off, so I sold it for more money than I paid for it. Result. :)

[hovis]

Oh and loud cans are also useful for inadequate horns - and getting dogs to shut up.

and setting off car alarms;-)

[ogden]

What, them thinking "What the heck is that?" I know some will be because I myself have experienced the same thought process when something loud rumbles in the distance. Some may be thinking other things yes but then i prefer not to delude myself with thoughts of owning psychic powers :)

The "what the heck is that" thought won't last as long as the "who's the **** making all that noise" one.

[yorkie_chris]

Ogden, you need to watch for the float to dip below the surface, and time your strike carefully. If you pull too hard you risk pulling the hook right through the mouth, not hard enough and the hook might not set properly. This time of year a bottom feeder can be very effective.

[dizzyblonde]

I recently did a 2000-odd mile tour with a few mates, one of whom was on a bike with a full race system.

By the end of the trip I was just about ready to shove his exhaust up his ****. Even having him sitting next to me at péage gates with the engine at tickover was enough to make my brain rattle.

yes well thats what we thought with a pair of straight through M4s on the Raptor through France. He was made to ride at the back of us, as it was too in your face if he got in front!

[Dave20046]

and setting off car alarms;-)
Ridiculously satisfying


...or so I'm told :-dd

[ArtyLady]

What's the point?

The point is mine helps me grow old even more disgracefully!:smt074 :D

Is there some way in which sticking a loud can on an SV650 is any different to a 17 year old sticking a baked-bean can exhaust on his Citroen Saxo?

Yep - it's different cos bikes are meant to sound like that - always did and always should (non of your buzzy bee IL4 feeble attempts at sounding like a motorbike :rolleyes: ;)) If you watch the any videos of the ARs you hear it.........deep rumbling burbling SVs (x 4 or 5) then a couple of buzzy bees :lol: ;)

............and I'm allowed to diss IL4s that cos this is a SV forum haha!

[hovis]

Yep - it's different cos bikes are meant to sound like that - always did and always should (non of your buzzy bee IL4 feeble attempts at sounding like a motorbike
............and I'm allowed to diss IL4s that cos this is a SV forum haha!

my IL4 with the stubby would put your SV too shame

:smt020

[Dave20046]

my IL4 with the stubby would put your SV too shame

:smt020
I've got to admit I am warming up to the sound of IL4s (after seeing them on the track), although the bumble bee aspect would get pretty annoying I imagine. Still say you can't beat a v-twin :p

[ArtyLady]

my IL4 with the stubby would put your SV too shame

:smt020

So it sounds like a buzzy bee with an amplifier then? ;) :lol:

I've got to admit I am warming up to the sound of IL4s (after seeing them on the track), although the bumble bee aspect would get pretty annoying I imagine. Still say you can't beat a v-twin :p

That's were they should stay as well IMO ;) Definately can't beat a v-twin - the sound of a proper motorbike :cool: :D

[hovis]

So it sounds like a buzzy bee with an amplifier then? ;) :lol:



yup on steriods


although it was mentioned it sounded like a doolebug? which i belive was an aircraft from the 2nd WW but im too young to remember:salut:

[SoulKiss]

yup on steriods


although it was mentioned it sounded like a doolebug? which i belive was an aircraft from the 2nd WW but im too young to remember:salut:

But yet old enough to use Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb) (mind you that would involve knowing how to spell Doodlebug properly

It was the V1 rocket - an early cruise-missle type affair made by those resourceful German types

[timwilky]

Not a rocket mate. A flying bomb powered by a pulse jet type engine

[SoulKiss]

Not a rocket mate. A flying bomb powered by a pulse jet type engine


Oh, so I didnt read the article that closely either :p

[STRAMASHER]

Not a rocket mate. A flying bomb powered by a pulse jet type engine


....and sounds gash. Typical flat Germanic drone. Some things never change.;)

[Scoobs]

its cos we is all 17 at heart like innit

Correct. I thought mine sounded ace.

[Amplimator]

What's the point?

Is there some way in which sticking a loud can on an SV650 is any different to a 17 year old sticking a baked-bean can exhaust on his Citroen Saxo?

Tis simples really.

If i owned a C90 and put a bean can on it it would be sad. If i put a bean can on a chav-mobile (ie saxo etc) its also sad.

the same principles really dont apply for say, a ferrari or a ducati coz they sound a-ok anyway so your really just enhancing what you already have.

its the same for an ugly annoying bird ( :elephant: ), she is what she is and no amount of make-up/surgery and/or therapy is gonna make her a good shag-buddy that you wanna show-off to your mates.

hth

[Biker Biggles]

:fish::nemo::laughat:

[Alpinestarhero]

I have a loud exhaust so that some people might hear me (mostly pedestrians and cyclists, I dont expect car drivers to hear on the basis they may have their radio up loud)...and also, because despite being 10 years old, looking a bit less than great, with a relativly high milage...it still sounds brilliant.

Also, it enables my dad to hear when I am back home in brighton (he can hear me coming up the road past his garage) and my mum also knows when I turn up outside the house. As does my neice (brum brum mamoo is my name!).

I like loud exhausts on bikes, especially when the exhaust sounds nice (some sound raspy, there is a huy who flys past me every day on a ZX6r and i dont like his exhaust, but there is a guy with an R1 i see quite often and his bike sounds niiicccee) and if it amplifies the engine note (V4 owners apply here!!)

[fizzwheel]

Ogden, you need to watch for the float to dip below the surface, and time your strike carefully. If you pull too hard you risk pulling the hook right through the mouth, not hard enough and the hook might not set properly. This time of year a bottom feeder can be very effective.

:D

[hovis]

But yet old enough to use Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb) (mind you that would involve knowing how to spell Doodlebug properly

It was the V1 rocket - an early cruise-missle type affair made by those resourceful German types:rolleyes:

Not a rocket mate. A flying bomb powered by a pulse jet type engine:winner:

Oh, so I didnt read the article that closely either :p\\:D/

[timwilky]

I must be old, because I didn't bother reading the article

[plowsie]

Ogden, you need to watch for the float to dip below the surface, and time your strike carefully. If you pull too hard you risk pulling the hook right through the mouth, not hard enough and the hook might not set properly. This time of year a bottom feeder can be very effective.
It has taken me all day to work this out! Bit slow on the uptake today.

Very good.

[mikelcfc]

surely its that chavs can only afford a little saxo / fiesta/corsa and they feel that if they put a stupid exhaust on it then there street cred goes up and they think they are as good as a subaru etc.. however, imho, i dont have a stubby on my bike cause i want it to sound like a duke or something, i do it as i dislike the sound of the standard, its lighter, looks better and makes me heard,,

[Dave20046]

idislike the sound of the standard, its lighter, looks better and makes me hard
Steady now...

[fastdruid]

I OTOH have a fully legal exhaust (if maybe slightly louder than stock) because I'd prefer the sound of a V4 on full chat to not be heard 2miles away so as to prevent complaints from residents leading to speed traps...

Druid

[mikelcfc]

AHAHAHAH i actually paniced there and was like,, sh*t edit, quick,, not aother typo.. lol

[mikelcfc]

I OTOH have a fully legal exhaust (if maybe slightly louder than stock) because I'd prefer the sound of a V4 on full chat to not be heard 2miles away so as to prevent complaints from residents leading to speed traps...

Druid
ironicly, it was just yesterday that community speed watch signs was put up down the road..

[ophic]

Different tastes for different people. I dislike thunderously loud cans, and in fact my SV can unbaffled is only about as loud as Greek's cans with the baffles in.

I even think that some sporty corsas, for example, with nice exhausts, actually look and sound ok. It's just that most are bog standard corsas with crappy sounding buckets stuck on the back. It still does 0-60 in 15 seconds so what exactly are you proud of?

The biggest problem with the SV is that it sounds really bad with the stock can. The SV1000s stock cans look and sound much nicer.

[sunshine]

I OTOH have a fully legal exhaust (if maybe slightly louder than stock) because I'd prefer the sound of a V4 on full chat to not be heard 2miles away so as to prevent complaints from residents leading to speed traps...

Druid

dw about them putting speed traps up unless you have killed someone they cant put one up. :p

i like loud cans because im not much older than one of them chavs in a corsa, i just have an sv that beats every car round here, off the mark. you have to love seeing them chavs at lights wanting a race so you say race for slips they agree then disagree when you ask for there car and the standard can! :D

[ogden]

dw about them putting speed traps up unless you have killed someone they cant put one up.

Newsflash: not all speed traps take the form of speed cameras.

[sunshine]

all speed traps MUST be put in where people have been killed, they need to a reason to spend that much money!

[fastdruid]

all speed traps MUST be put in where people have been killed, they need to a reason to spend that much money!

Er I don't think so, I think you are confusing speed traps with GATSO's and other fixed speed cameras.

Druid

[Jase22]

I like having a nice loud can as it sounds mint and, as an added bonus, annoys miserable pumpers that think "it's too loud".

This thread would be more appropriate if it was arguing about what's the point of standard cans, as they is so well proper turd.

[Skip]

The SV1000s stock cans look and sound much nicer.
True - they dont sound as stifled as the 650 exhaust - but I just had to have that noise - my LeoVince cans are loud but not ridiculous (IMO - or have I just got used to them?!)

[ThEGr33k]

Most IL4's, especially low revving ones tend to sound pants. V-twins and any odd firing bike sounds the nuts! Simples :)

Different tastes for different people. I dislike thunderously loud cans, and in fact my SV can unbaffled is only about as loud as Greek's cans with the baffles in.



Really? I think mine is probably fairly loud but its not so loud as to be stupid. What do you think?

[sunshine]

i was right all speed traps can only be installed within half a mile of someone being killed.

Otherwise they would put them up on my road because i know cars go in excess of 100mph and its only a 30, we had the police catch people go that fast and someone asked why there wasnt any form of speed traps or cameras they said we have to wait until someone is killed.

[Mej]

i like my loud can, theres nothing else to it! its is not the same as some little no*bber with a drain pipe on the back of his 1.0 nova. I like big exausts on nice cars, cars that can back it up with power.

I went santa pod last weekend, those cars make my bike sound like a lawnmower, now that is some serious noise.

My brother has just had scorpions put on his 07 fazer and they said awesome when you wind them up.

[ogden]

i was right all speed traps can only be installed within half a mile of someone being killed.

Otherwise they would put them up on my road because i know cars go in excess of 100mph and its only a 30, we had the police catch people go that fast and someone asked why there wasnt any form of speed traps or cameras they said we have to wait until someone is killed.

You're an idiot.

The limitations you're referring to apply in the context of speed cameras.

The police can put a speed trap anywhere they want, so long as it consists of a dibble with a hairdryer.

[ophic]

You're an idiot.
:why:

[ophic]

Really? I think mine is probably fairly loud but its not so loud as to be stupid. What do you think?
Sounded loud on tickover. I'll have to actually turn up at Squires on my bike and we can compare. Trouble is its out of MOT and I have a gazillion other things to do first :(

[fastdruid]

i was right all speed traps can only be installed within half a mile of someone being killed.

Otherwise they would put them up on my road because i know cars go in excess of 100mph and its only a 30, we had the police catch people go that fast and someone asked why there wasnt any form of speed traps or cameras they said we have to wait until someone is killed.

Not true, there is NO requirement for someone to have died, (KSI does not mean someone has to die).

Infact, here is proof:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/speedmanagement/pdfdftcirc0107.pdf

1 KSI collision required within 1km and that doesn't have to be on the same road, the definition of seriously injured is being admitted to hospital - even if you're discharged after a quick check-up, you still count as seriously injured...

That is for a proper mobile site, there is nothing to stop the police stopping in a layby and stopping any drivers speeding past.

Druid

[ogden]

:why:

Because he/she has stated the same "fact" a couple of times now, backed up with nonsense in the face of contradictory statements.

Spouting rubbish once is fine, twice is idiocy.

[speedplay]

Because he/she has stated the same "fact" a couple of times now, backed up with nonsense in the face of contradictory statements.

Spouting rubbish once is fine, twice is idiocy.


Seems like a fair point TBH.
Cant argue with that, harsh comment but sometimes fitting.

But....


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[ogden]

:offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::offtopic: :offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::offtopic: :offtopic::offtopic:

Hey, it's my topic, I'll derail it if I want to!

[hovis]

You're an idiot.

.

:lol:

[Owenski]

Feeling a little sheepish now but I like the sound mine makes, I had pondered the chavvy side of it but decided to anyway. It does have an effect on people pulling out in front of me, not that its a safety thing to be relied on, but as tesco say, every little helps.

The thing with doing it to an SV is it CAN sound so much better without the stock muffler. rather than just making it louder it adjusts the tone etc.

Some people like the V-Twin sound aswell as the power characteristics.

It may be a phase I'll grow out of, but had to do it at least once :-)

what he said

[ArtyLady]

You're an idiot.

....

How Rude!!!! <sigh> :rolleyes:

[_Stretchie_]

if you can't see a bike, you'll sure as damn hear her coming first.

Apparently due to inner ear differences deer cannot hear an SV under load though.

Illustrated by a simple equation:


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/Stretchie_/Stuff%20for%20posting/SV.jpg

+

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/Stretchie_/Stuff%20for%20posting/bambi.jpg



=

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/Stretchie_/Stuff%20for%20posting/venison_cuts.jpg

[Sosha]

SV plus can - Like it around town. If you can't see the bright yellow motorcycle can you hear it?

R6 Annoys me a little. Wouldn't mind something that didn't sound like it was coming onto the back straight everywhere.

[ThEGr33k]

Sounded loud on tickover. I'll have to actually turn up at Squires on my bike and we can compare. Trouble is its out of MOT and I have a gazillion other things to do first :(


Hmmm. Well get on with it. We need a good meet before the end of the year is out I think. Which is soon! :(

[etuna]

who cares

[ogden]

who cares

Very thought-provoking. Thanks for your contribution.

[rowdy]

There aren't that many noises IMO that sound as good as a v-twin that has been allowed to flow freely through a decent exhaust system.
I recieve good comments about the sound the SV makes, I have yet to recieve a bad one. I was approached by a man outside my place of work once and asked if I ride past his village. I said that i did and was expecting him to have a moan but he just nodded and said "that sounds f****** gorgeous."
The wife knows when I'm coming home so she gets prior warning to put the kettle on.
Even my three dogs know when I'm coming home (from about half a mile away) and sit by the door waiting.
I don't think that my bike is particularly loud, but then I may just be used to it.

[ogden]

I recieve good comments about the sound the SV makes, I have yet to recieve a bad one.

Lets remember what an SV650 is - a beginner-friend faintly-sporty sports/tourer/commuter bike. In that context, a quiet exhaust is quite fitting.

An SV650 with a race can sounds OK, to a point, but it also sounds like it promises a lot more than it's going to deliver, more than hinting that "when I grow up, I want to be a Ducati".

[ThEGr33k]

Yea but lets be fair a SV isnt that slow... And V-twins never sound like they are going that fast. Probably why the police seem less interested :)

[yorkie_chris]

As the weather gets colder, fish are less active and bites less regular, a bite alarm can be a useful investment.

[Stu]

i was right all speed traps can only be installed within half a mile of someone being killed.

Otherwise they would put them up on my road because i know cars go in excess of 100mph and its only a 30, we had the police catch people go that fast and someone asked why there wasnt any form of speed traps or cameras they said we have to wait until someone is killed.Good, speed doesn't kill

You're an idiot.

The limitations you're referring to apply in the context of speed cameras.

The police can put a speed trap anywhere they want, so long as it consists of a dibble with a hairdryer.To be fair, using the word installed made me think of a fixed camera rather than anything else :smt102

[ArtyLady]

Lets remember what an SV650 is - a beginner-friend faintly-sporty sports/tourer/commuter bike. In that context, a quiet exhaust is quite fitting.

An SV650 with a race can sounds OK, to a point, but it also sounds like it promises a lot more than it's going to deliver, more than hinting that "when I grow up, I want to be a Ducati".

Bloomin cheek! and what rubbish! :smt098

[rowdy]

Lets remember what an SV650 is - a beginner-friend faintly-sporty sports/tourer/commuter bike. In that context, a quiet exhaust is quite fitting.

An SV650 with a race can sounds OK, to a point, but it also sounds like it promises a lot more than it's going to deliver, more than hinting that "when I grow up, I want to be a Ducati".
Suits me, I commute on it. Can't say I'd want to on a Ducati though.
BTW doesn't have to have loads of grunt to make it shift, a well ridden SV will pee all over a numpty riding a Duke poorly.

[ogden]

Suits me, I commute on it. Can't say I'd want to on a Ducati though.
BTW doesn't have to have loads of grunt to make it shift, a well ridden SV will pee all over a numpty riding a Duke poorly.

A well ridden C90 will pee all over a numpty riding a Ducati badly, it's all a matter of degrees.

[etuna]

Very thought-provoking. Thanks for your contribution.

you are welcome. Now anyway - loud cans, anyone ever thought about them before?

[rowdy]

Well yes, probably a bad way of trying to get my point across. Point being we all like the sv for various reasons, and if we choose to modify them then so be it, an sv with a loud can is probably not much louder than a Ducati, so wheres the harm.
I personally like the sv because it is reliable, goes well enough for my needs and i know if I were to replace it with a litre sports bike that can easily break the speed limit in first gear I wouldn't have a license for very long. I like the noise with the aftermarket exhaust.

[sv650nutter149]

ogden just cause our sv's are louder and deeper sounding u dont have to get all jelous now

[ArtyLady]

ogden just cause our sv's are louder and deeper sounding u dont have to get all jelous now

I think you've hit the nail on the head! ;)