View Full Version : Operation Flashpoint 2
who's signing up this friday :salut:
:smt070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSd3HdM0drA
DanAbnormal
06-10-09, 06:29 PM
I have it already on xbox.
It's..........okay. Not as good as I hoped.
I have it already on xbox.
It's..........okay. Not as good as I hoped.
another cheeky downloader :rolleyes:
how does it compare to OFP1?
looking forward to this friday don't compare it to cod no way near the same kind of game i bought arma 2 on pc and that's awesome so this'll need too be even better too beat it oh and i'm getting it on xbox too so if anyone's up for the co-op campaign.
valleyboy
06-10-09, 07:12 PM
pre-ordered for PC.... won't be anything like OFP 1.. as that would be ArmA and ArmA 2, as they are the true sequels, and would have been OFP 2 if Codemasters and BIS didnt have a falling out....
read some good, and some bad things... especialy about the timed missions, and save game points being like levels....
I'm lucky and have a PC that can run ArmA 2 quite well, even got a Track IR 5 to play it with....
But looking forward to seeing what OFP 2 is like... hope they havent done a Ubisoft ala Ghost Recon....
Warthog
06-10-09, 07:34 PM
I just installed a new gfx card ready for it! Playing ArmA 2 at the moment, maxed out and it is smooooth :). Can't wait for OFP 2, but I really hope it still has the same feel and realism as 1, but without the bugs. Plus pre-order was £17.99! How you can consider downloading it when it is already that cheap.
pre ordered too!! cant wait as I was a big fan of OPF 1 but foudn Arma a bit too nerdy hoping this is a mix of COD4 and arma.
As there are quite a few of us on PC we could team up on the 10th for a bit of co-op org action.
hindle8907
06-10-09, 08:15 PM
My Mobo just died so need to log a warrenty repair but i will be geting this on the PC if funds allow .
Warthog im running the same card as you crossfired x2 4870 ;)
when im back up and running ill give you guys a shout. never played OF1 though
but shouldnt take me long to get used to it.
(as i am the best on fps games) hahah :)
DanAbnormal
06-10-09, 08:17 PM
another cheeky downloader :rolleyes:
how does it compare to OFP1?
No no. I didn't download it. I have a "cough" backup. :)
Visually stunning yet lacking any real excitement and gets very samey very quickly. Not awful but not as great as I'd hoped.
preordered yesterday, it's gonna be epic!
Wideboy
06-10-09, 08:20 PM
i played the original to death, one of my all time favs, might buy OP2 but i don't really play games anymore
Mafia 2 has been the one i been waiting for for about 2 yrs now
DanAbnormal
06-10-09, 08:20 PM
Am looking at crossfiring 2 x 5870's. Got the 4870X2 at the moment and a quad core running at 4.00ghz but I WANT MORE POWER DAMMIT! :D
Am looking at crossfiring 2 x 5870's. Got the 4870X2 at the moment and a quad core running at 4.00ghz but I WANT MORE POWER DAMMIT! :D
wholly moly Dan thats a hell of a rig you greedy boy. And heres me with my lowely 3.2ghz and NV275
Bluefish
06-10-09, 08:54 PM
can you lot speak english, please.:rolleyes:
Warthog
06-10-09, 10:09 PM
can you lot speak english, please.:rolleyes:
"My small willy is compensated by my powerful Personal Computer"
:lol:
Mine too :-P
Loved OFP1 (sneaking into base and hi jacking a AA tank was my highlight :D)
looking at u-tube vids, OFP2 looks the part so far.
seems that i'll be the only one with a PS3 copy then :rolleyes:
just how much you guys have to spend on a PC nowdays to run these games? I gave up pouring cash into 'upgrading' a long time ago.
DanAbnormal
07-10-09, 08:39 AM
Loved OFP1 (sneaking into base and hi jacking a AA tank was my highlight :D)
looking at u-tube vids, OFP2 looks the part so far.
seems that i'll be the only one with a PS3 copy then :rolleyes:
just how much you guys have to spend on a PC nowdays to run these games? I gave up pouring cash into 'upgrading' a long time ago.
My main reason for a monster rig is that I'm a freelance 3D artist. You would not believe how much power you need, my rig is still not quite powerfull enough. I'm going to upgrade the PC next year to a state of the art i7 rig. At the moment I have:
Q9650 @ 3.99Ghz
ATI HD4870X2 2048Mb
3TB HDD
22" LCD
8Gb DDR3 Ram
Windows 7
1000W PSU
Cost in the region of £2k to build.
My main reason for a monster rig is that I'm a freelance 3D artist. You would not believe how much power you need, my rig is still not quite powerfull enough. I'm going to upgrade the PC next year to a state of the art i7 rig. At the moment I have:
Q9650 @ 3.99Ghz
ATI HD4870X2 2048Mb
3TB HDD
22" LCD
8Gb DDR3 Ram
Windows 7
1000W PSU
Cost in the region of £2k to build.
wow, that must be super fast!! and you what to upgrade!? what programmes you run that needs so much power?
I do 3D work too, but the powerhouse stays at the studio :(
Its a Apple Mac Pro 8 core 2.26GHz, 6GB DDR3 with ATI HD4870 512MB, 2x19"LCD. it costed IT £2500 to buy, crazy money!
Alpinestarhero
07-10-09, 11:16 AM
Private Alpinestarhero, enlisting for action, Sir!!
Request to be trained to use sniper rifles, Sir!
remember - xbox live gamertag is Alpinestarhero. Lets kick some assssss!!
robh539
07-10-09, 12:02 PM
Private Alpinestarhero, enlisting for action, Sir!!
Request to be trained to use sniper rifles, Sir!
remember - xbox live gamertag is Alpinestarhero. Lets kick some assssss!!
Ill be getting this for xbox, i will join the ranks lol :)
Alpinestarhero
07-10-09, 12:05 PM
awesome!!!
me and my mate and maybe my bro are getting it friday. friday night is now planned. And saturday night. And all of sunday.
robh539
07-10-09, 12:12 PM
cool, picking up a copy on the way home from work.
Robh539 is my gamertag, see you on the beach then lol
BBadger
07-10-09, 12:23 PM
Ok...i still cant decide, let me know how it plays as ive been killing op1 for the last week then i may pop out and get a copy.
metalangel
07-10-09, 12:57 PM
Eurogamer has given it an average review (both in terms of the score and in terms of the review itself, which doens't go into much detail as the writer seemed more interested in his distasteful joke about a soldier dying on a battlefield being offered a copy of the game and being told 'see if you'd played this you'd have known what would happen' ) but the Code*******s forums are more interesting in that some people have posted their thoughts already.
Summarized:
-there's no AI in multiplayer player vs player - just you and your buddies. And it's only 4vs4 on consoles.
-for all the effort they've made in a huge sandbox island with all these vehicles, you're stuck with a dozen very linear singleplayer missions and whatever the multiplayer mode entails. A huge waste of content if you ask me.
-in co-op mode, you can't go more than 275m from your mate, which is RUBBISH.
-there's lots of problems with the sound cutting out.
-the in-game menu system is horrible.
-you can't pick your weapons for each mission - some guys have resorted to killing one of their squadmates in order to get his sniper rifle.
-it's not as hardcore as the original was, they've tried to make it possible for the screaming elmos to play too.
While I'm disappointed, it *is* a Codemasters game and I don't know why I expected otherwise. Certainly I'm keeping all crossable appendages crossed that ArmA2 makes its way to consoles eventually.
Like I said to Warthog, I'm very picky about my military games. IL-2: Birds of Prey is out recently and while it too is a bit limited (a campaign you'll finish in a day, scripted missions that break and don't complete, multiplayer a bit underwhelming) it makes up for it with the sheer number of planes and some of the best flying action I've seen in years. I get the feeling I'll play OFP:DR and just keep trying to do stuff from the original that's been taken out.
Alpinestarhero
07-10-09, 02:01 PM
Hmm, metalangel, from what you've said i might wait a little while before I get my copy.
Bad Company 2 looks promising, there is a video on www.battlefield.com (http://www.battlefield.com) (scroll down a bit).
metalangel
07-10-09, 02:45 PM
Yeah, the old Battlefield games were great, Frontlines (guys who made Desert Combat for BF1942) was pretty good too. Didn't like BF1943 recently.
By all means make your own mind up, read a lot of reviews and forums, but in my own view the game will be really disappointing. I mean, why make dozens of vehicles and loads of weapons for a mostly linear game where you'll never get to use them all? Or a huge (it takes four hours to drive across it in a jeep) island if you'll only do a dozen missions in isolated locations? What gave Flashpoint its longevity was the modding tools and especially the mission editor. The mission editor apparently made it to the Xbox port of the original but there isn't one for Dragon Rising, which means when you've inevitably exhausted all the options you'll just stop playing.
I'm just... disappointed.
Alpinestarhero
07-10-09, 03:23 PM
hmmm yea, my friend was excited about the mission editor, and was suitably dissapointed at the news it wouldnt make it into the final game.
Makes me feel like it could be more "call of duty" than "battlefield". I like the battlefield games
a good review :study: http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1031302p1.html
Warthog
07-10-09, 06:17 PM
I was just playing Arma 2 last night, and got onto the mission where you just have to take loads of villiages, just like the modded Capture the Island CTI games form OFP1. Brought back memories, driving for a full 15 minutes real time only to get shot in the head randomly. All the hurt and frustration wells back hahaha.
look at all these toys!! :rambo:
http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/attachments/51103d122927713-5sammelthread-operation-flashpoint-2-dragon-raising-ofp2tools-1-.jpg
and point this at the Dim Sums :smt044
http://franchisemedia.ign.com/images/03/34/33436_v_mbt_type95_normal.jpg
valleyboy
07-10-09, 08:35 PM
Metalangel...
IL-2 BOP.. I take it thats the console version of IL-2 Sturmovik ? The IL-2 Series is a good few years old now... the AI were always buggers as they would always kill you on the first pass.. or you always got shot in the head while flying past bombers with their first shots! Online multiplayer was always great though.. this is on PC though... 8 or 9 of us flying against each other with voice comms... them were the days...
Im itching to play ArmA 2 online... but will get my ass handed to me on a plate... as there are some serious squads out there that do the whole military tactics side of it... I'm not expecting much out of OFP 1 for the simple reason.. it has nothing to do with the first one appart from the name.
DanAbnormal
07-10-09, 10:19 PM
Arma 2 for me sucked butt. Looked like an amazing game but it's so full of bugs it would never display properly. So it gets a bit fat MEH rating from me.
DanAbnormal
07-10-09, 10:21 PM
wow, that must be super fast!! and you what to upgrade!? what programmes you run that needs so much power?
I do 3D work too, but the powerhouse stays at the studio :(
Its a Apple Mac Pro 8 core 2.26GHz, 6GB DDR3 with ATI HD4870 512MB, 2x19"LCD. it costed IT £2500 to buy, crazy money!
Mainly Maya, Max and Modo. The big power drainer is when you get whole scenes with squillions of polys. You can never have a fast enough rig in this game.
metalangel
07-10-09, 10:57 PM
Metalangel...
IL-2 BOP.. I take it thats the console version of IL-2 Sturmovik ? The IL-2 Series is a good few years old now... the AI were always buggers as they would always kill you on the first pass.. or you always got shot in the head while flying past bombers with their first shots! Online multiplayer was always great though.. this is on PC though... 8 or 9 of us flying against each other with voice comms... them were the days...
Yeah, it's an old series but the new one certainly has a modern engine - the detail is astonishing. The AI are good at killing on the first pass, and approaching a bomber from behind is suicide or at least an abrupt trip to try and land rough as they've shot our your engine. Enemy fighters also love to fake a death spin to lure you towards the ground, or pull a roll very near the ground in the hope you won't recover in time.
The missions are all scripted, though, there's no attempt at a dynamic battlefield at all. The multiplayer stuff is just simplistic dogfight, drop bombs or land on airfields stuff (why the hell not make the campaign co-op??) but so far it's entertained me but I have to concede it's just an arcadey game like Ace Combat but dressed up with a tough flight model.
Im itching to play ArmA 2 online... but will get my ass handed to me on a plate... as there are some serious squads out there that do the whole military tactics side of it... I'm not expecting much out of OFP 1 for the simple reason.. it has nothing to do with the first one appart from the name.
I take it you mean OFP 2, and yeah, I think you're right. They figured they'd have a bash since they own the name which is NOT the reason to make a game (think of all those awful Army Men games they made just because they still had the rights to the name). And all those lovely weapons and vehicles you'll probably barely get a sniff at in the dozen missions.
i don't think my flashpoint's gonna arrive for friday damn at least i get the extra mission when it arrive's i look forward to reading what people think about it.
My copy has not arrived yet!!!! :mad:
DanAbnormal
09-10-09, 02:28 PM
I'll write a review tonight when I have played it a bit more. Still not all that impressed, perhaps my expectations were too high based on the preview hype. I hate it when that happens.
give it a few days to soak in ;)
Sachs_Rider
09-10-09, 05:19 PM
I have just bought this, i think it is amazing
My copy has not arrived yet!!!! :mad:
tell me about it i pre ordered mine and it's only just been posted today what a **** take #-o
Warthog
09-10-09, 05:48 PM
I pre-ordered mine and it hasn't arrived, but this ALWAYS happens, so I was expecting it! I'll catch up next week when it arrives I guess.
Sachs_Rider
09-10-09, 05:49 PM
i bought mine from steam but steam sucks so much ass! As most the time my error is An unexpected error has occurred. Your purchase has not been completed.
Please contact LOL takes the **** doesnt it
yeah steam does suck ass i gave up with that can usually find it cheaper on disc format anyway.
metalangel
09-10-09, 06:10 PM
Several people on Eurogamer have said they've already sold it on such was their disappointment. Look forward to hearing your views Dan.
Personally if it was anything less than the original in any aspect (yes, I know it's a different dev, that's no excuse) I'll be disappointed, as I spent hours of my life playing the original. Singleplayer was quickly forgotten (it was pants anyway) in favour of the amazing multiplayer, but without a mission editor in the console versions I think this is doomed to run out of content very quickly. And frankly that's a waste of all the tanks and helicopters and guns they've spent months creating.
Several people on Eurogamer have said they've already sold it on such was their disappointment. Look forward to hearing your views Dan.
Personally if it was anything less than the original in any aspect (yes, I know it's a different dev, that's no excuse) I'll be disappointed, as I spent hours of my life playing the original. Singleplayer was quickly forgotten (it was pants anyway) in favour of the amazing multiplayer, but without a mission editor in the console versions I think this is doomed to run out of content very quickly. And frankly that's a waste of all the tanks and helicopters and guns they've spent months creating.
they may release a 'mission editor update' for PS3 and XBOX to download :rolleyes:
thats the good thing about games now days, it gets updates and added content, which is nice after spending £££ on a game.
Sachs_Rider
09-10-09, 07:55 PM
after a few hours of chatting up steams online people ;), i got the following trouble shoot
"Have you tried logging on and off"
Now as you can imagine, i was like WTF did you think i had been doing for the past few hours sucking my thumb waiting for a response. My god it almost seems they want me to be ****ed off.
metalangel
09-10-09, 08:42 PM
they may release a 'mission editor update' for PS3 and XBOX to download :rolleyes:
thats the good thing about games now days, it gets updates and added content, which is nice after spending £££ on a game.
I see it the other way - especially when they announce the DLC before the game's even out. They deliberately hold back content so they can charge you extra for it. And DLC causes huge hassles because suppose you've got four friends: three of them, like you, have the DLC. The fourth doesn't but really wants to play. So you just play whatever the default stuff is and the DLC stuff goes untouched. Even with free DLC, you'll find loads of people who don't have it. It's BAD.
A mission editor is a HUGE thing to add, and I can with 99% certainty say they will not add one. Stuff like Halo's Forge mode is really unique in letting you create missions and stuff on a console.
got fed up waiting for it to arrive so i rented it on ps3 damn it's good don't know what anybodies whinging about it's ****in awesome roll on xbox version arriving as people actually use headset's on that.
looking good:
Operation Cashpoint: Sales Rising http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=224624
Sachs_Rider
10-10-09, 10:28 PM
i got this pc has anyone else got it?? for pc
valleyboy
11-10-09, 10:12 AM
I have it for the PC.... Only played on it for one mission.... need to get use to the method of sending orders etc.. as I hate it... uses the same keys as you use to move around once in the orders menu.. so if you want to run in any direction once you have opened up the menu.. tough! it just issues a command instead.. suppose its the console side of the game shining through on to the PC version... and the fact you have to shoot your enemy severel times on some occasions... even when you get a head shot....
Think I'll be sticking to ArmA myself... console people may find it great, but as a PC game.. I dont think its got anything on ArmA or the original OFP...
Jackie_Black
11-10-09, 10:32 AM
I bought this for my PC. To anyone who hasn't yet. Don't.
It's a POS console game on the PC. An utter waste.
it may just be the best/only war sim game for us poor console owners :rolleyes:
Jackie_Black
11-10-09, 12:44 PM
Sure it's fine on a console mate but there are far too many poorly implemented parts for it to be a good pc game. No dedicated multiplayer services on a game like this is unforgivable.
I guess OPF2 is not a full on sim as many has hoped, it is a war 'game' meaning it is 'fun' to play.
Jackie_Black
11-10-09, 01:22 PM
The game itself isnt so bad. Its the multiplayer thats ruined it for me. I've even written to them to complain about releasing an unfinished game.
Warthog
11-10-09, 06:21 PM
I am basically hoping that the fun of doing coop missions with my mate over the internet will outweigh its flaws. Me just chat on Skype and drink beer whilst doing it. So far Supreme Commander and Red Alert 3 have been great fun, as it is more like socialising. I hope I'll enjoy kicking some semi-realistic butt together with others too.
Alpinestarhero
11-10-09, 07:22 PM
This game had me shouting and swearing in 20 minutes of gameplay.
I will be trading it in for something else in the near future, and patiently await bad company 2
Jackie_Black
11-10-09, 09:18 PM
I'm waiting for BF1943 on the pc and of course star wars the old republic....
metalangel
12-10-09, 07:07 AM
I have it for the PC.... Only played on it for one mission.... need to get use to the method of sending orders etc.. as I hate it... uses the same keys as you use to move around once in the orders menu.. so if you want to run in any direction once you have opened up the menu.. tough! it just issues a command instead.. suppose its the console side of the game shining through on to the PC version... and the fact you have to shoot your enemy severel times on some occasions... even when you get a head shot....
Think I'll be sticking to ArmA myself... console people may find it great, but as a PC game.. I dont think its got anything on ArmA or the original OFP...
Some have said you might find it better doing orders from the map screen? I dunno, I've been reading the various OFP forums (and Tactical Gamer) and that's what has been suggested to me.
TBH trimming it down for a console audience was a waste of time. Console gamers will all be playing CoD6 when it comes out, while those who wanted a hardcore milsim like this will be disappointed that it's trying to appeal to those same CoD players.
Some of the bug reports I've seen are hilarious, including people being thrown ten feet in the air when they jump over sandbags, calling a medic and the medic comes and crouches next to them and then just watches for 30 seconds until they bleed out and die, and an AI driving a jeep with a wall in front of him just revving against it. Even in the original OFP the AI could reverse away to get around an obstacle!
AI driving a jeep with a wall in front of him just revving against it.
the AI must be sampled from a london driver :rolleyes:
DanAbnormal
12-10-09, 08:36 AM
Done about 4 or five missions now. The first one was pretty basic yet also quite hard if you choose to try and do all of the secondary objectives. After the next batch of missions I quickly realised that I was bored. Most games get more exciting as you progress, this one just sends you on yet another tedious mission following waypoints and running into groups of hostiles. It's also got a really, really bad checkpoint system. In the first mission I decided to tackle the secondary objectives or destroying 2 sam sites and a sunburn missile truck. I did the first sam site at the lighthouse and then travelled all the way and managed to do the sunburn truck only I got killed exfiltrating from that area. I was horrified to see that the 'save' system placed me back about 35 mins worth of play before I'd even destroyed the firs sam site. What a pile of absolute tosh. To be honest it doesn't even look that good. I would say it looks a worse than battlefield bad company which is well over a year old now. Shocking game, poorly thought out and just plain tedious and annoying. Save your money.
well, there are no check points in war, it makes OPF1/2 a 'tense' game, but if you are not into war sim then it translates as 'frustration'.
surely if tactics is sound your mission should go well, then again no battle plan every goes to plan on contact ;)
DanAbnormal
12-10-09, 09:27 AM
well, there are no check points in war
There is also no menu system, AI or multiplayer. It's a game mate, wether it's a realistic sim or an arcade game it should be enjoyable and it just isn't. The checkpoint wouldn't be a huge problem provided you can save your progress when you want to, which you can't. It should be fun, sim or not. Bring back ghost recon (and I don't mean the shoddy console games) they were awesome on the pc. A shoddy console game in my opinion and there are many games which are better. Full Spectrum Warrior is so far ahead of this game and how old is that??
I know... PC rules for games, I just don't have one that can handle good games :(
so I have to make the most of console :rolleyes: (you kinda get use to the short comings of a console game)
Alpinestarhero
12-10-09, 09:57 AM
Done about 4 or five missions now. The first one was pretty basic yet also quite hard if you choose to try and do all of the secondary objectives. After the next batch of missions I quickly realised that I was bored. Most games get more exciting as you progress, this one just sends you on yet another tedious mission following waypoints and running into groups of hostiles. It's also got a really, really bad checkpoint system. In the first mission I decided to tackle the secondary objectives or destroying 2 sam sites and a sunburn missile truck. I did the first sam site at the lighthouse and then travelled all the way and managed to do the sunburn truck only I got killed exfiltrating from that area. I was horrified to see that the 'save' system placed me back about 35 mins worth of play before I'd even destroyed the firs sam site. What a pile of absolute tosh. To be honest it doesn't even look that good. I would say it looks a worse than battlefield bad company which is well over a year old now. Shocking game, poorly thought out and just plain tedious and annoying. Save your money.
seconded.
Bad company 2 looks like lots of fun, blow the hell out of everything...much like the current bad company, but more of it :D March 2010 that comes out
I derive satisfaction by driving through a building, running over n00bs along the way...you cant do this in operation flashpoint :thumbdown:
metalangel
12-10-09, 10:16 AM
well, there are no check points in war, it makes OPF1/2 a 'tense' game, but if you are not into war sim then it translates as 'frustration'.
surely if tactics is sound your mission should go well, then again no battle plan every goes to plan on contact ;)
OFP had just checkpoints, and you could save ONCE per mission (which would inevitably be 30 seconds before the checkpoint was triggered).
Tactics being sound does NOT mean there won't be the random bullet, buggy death or psychic AI.
I derive satisfaction by driving through a building, running over n00bs along the way...you cant do this in operation flashpoint :thumbdown:
OPF is clearly not your game if you like to play 'team America' style! You need patient of a ninja to play OPF! ;)
i think the problem here is people are buying it thinking it's a run n gun game for any old numb nut's no it's a tactic's game like the first one was i played opf1/arma 2 and this stand's up really well to both and is on a console to boot which is even more impressive.
DanAbnormal
12-10-09, 09:55 PM
i think the problem here is people are buying it thinking it's a run n gun game for any old numb nut's no it's a tactic's game like the first one was i played opf1/arma 2 and this stand's up really well to both and is on a console to boot which is even more impressive.
I was praying for a tactics game and it's just pants. Avoid and save yourself £40. At the end of the day a tactical game can still be frantic and fun, it doens't have to be tedious like this one is.
metalangel
13-10-09, 06:08 AM
i think the problem here is people are buying it thinking it's a run n gun game for any old numb nut's no it's a tactic's game like the first one was i played opf1/arma 2 and this stand's up really well to both and is on a console to boot which is even more impressive.
I'm thinking that if it says 'Operation Flashpoint' on the box, it should have an Operation Flashpoint game inside. Which it clearly doesn't.
Wow, so is there anything good about this game apart from a cool name and artwork? :rolleyes:
Sachs_Rider
13-10-09, 08:26 AM
I love my run and shoot games, but this game is one of the best games i have ever played, when the bullets are kicking up the dirt and buildings are blowing up. Firefights in the night using tracer round's and all i can see is bullets flying over me whilst i am on the ground and everytime i stand up i get headshotted! And i love a challenge. I would reccomend this only if you like games where youi struggle to make 2ft of ground a day:smt066
DanAbnormal
13-10-09, 09:30 AM
I would reccomend this only if you like games where youi struggle to make 2ft of ground a day:smt066
Played a bit more last night to give it more of a chance. I actually ran up a hill with about 10 tango's firing at me while my squad kept them busy with suppressive fire, I ran past two of them and lobbed the C4 underneath the radar and legged it back. Didn't take a single shot and when the C4 went off I took about 5 tango's out. That was the high point after about 6 hours play though. There is just too few exciting moments. I don't want to spend 20 hours sneaking through grass on my knees to have a 20min firefight. I love sim games, most of the PC games I have are sims but this perhaps is a step too far. Also the AI can really suck at times. I was a commander in a jeep and the driver decided to drive off a cliff. Idiot.
I was a commander in a jeep and the driver decided to drive off a cliff. Idiot.
:smt044
is he a Chinese assassin?
DanAbnormal
13-10-09, 11:15 AM
:smt044
is he a Chinese assassin?
I reckon mate. I actually reckon it was a woman driver!
Sachs_Rider
13-10-09, 11:46 AM
somehow that doesnt shock me :). I told my men to move into a house they went in at first! Then the 2 men i was protecting ran out and got their heads blown off by APC tanks:(. And then all my men went after them getting shot in crossfire by my team and the bad guys. I try not to think what would happen if i gave them a order to jump of a cliff.
DanAbnormal
13-10-09, 12:52 PM
somehow that doesnt shock me :). I told my men to move into a house
Don't tell me, they moved in but forgot all the bloody furniture.
Gah, idiots. :p
Warthog
13-10-09, 01:27 PM
Hahaha. I still haven't played it yet! Hopefully tonight.
Sachs_Rider
13-10-09, 01:46 PM
You know i would not put it past them :) When in a fireight always have a couch and LCD ready, incase you miss the rugby sound perfectly right does it not?:rolleyes: Well just played a bit more this morning and found out that not only do my men look the same their face expressions are all the same they look like this! :smt001 They are always happy to die for me :):smt063
they look like this! :smt001 They are always happy to die for me :):smt063
yeah, the new camouflage scheme is very effective at demoralizing the opposition :D
http://timthethief.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/funny-pictures-humor-clown-costume-vs-army.png
Sachs_Rider
13-10-09, 03:48 PM
I could not of put it better myself!
I was praying for a tactics game and it's just pants. Avoid and save yourself £40. At the end of the day a tactical game can still be frantic and fun, it doens't have to be tedious like this one is.
i beg to differ depend's how you work your squad and the menu system which is fluid when you get used to it firefight's can last a while using flanking maneuvre's and suppressing fire don't play it if you can't concentrate for long period's nothing wrong with the game.
Warthog
13-10-09, 08:17 PM
I have finally just played the first mission. I have promised my mate I will wait until we coop the whole game for the rest though. here are my initial thoughts.
I love the first menu and music! It's really chunky, really atmospheric, looks good and feels good. On starting the first mission, the cut scene explaining the situation was also really good I thought, its way more slick than just the original OFP cut scenes. As soon as you start, though, I found the controls a bit hard. Everytime it said "pick up some ammo with the interact button" and "tell your team to cover and fire with the control squad button" I had to hit Escape and go into the keyboard control list to find out what the keys were. I found I have been examining the keyboard control list way too much so far, trying to bring up a gear menu (doesn't exist), binoculars (B? No F1!). Not very intuitive. Having said that, once you get the hang of hitting Q AFTER giving orders, then the move and cover system works very well I think. They really shoul dhave the menu disappear afer you give an order though. I find it a bit hard to lie down, and move, and reload and fire, it seems to block you from doing certain things when you are doing other things. But the looks and feel of the game are pretty good. Firing the gun and guns firing back at you are pretty cool. But you have to hit people way too much to kill them. Sometimes it takes a couple of rakes and they still are firing back. So in short, it doesn't feel very OFPy, but I think once you do these missions coop they will just be totally awesome fun!
valleyboy
13-10-09, 08:25 PM
I've had my head blown off by my own squad... the night mission, told my squad to engage some targets... and I had my head blown off, as one of them was standing behind me at the time...
There are some good points... I've done the coastal stronghold mission... bit on the easy side, but I love the way the enemy falls to the ground when hit with the sniper rifle ! But after I finish a mission.. I just go hmmm.. and start up ArmA 2 and play on that instead...
not to mention the fact that codemasters have lied about several items of the PC game...
It's not a console port... could have fooled me ! it screams of a console game made to run on the PC...
It'll support joysticks... No it bloody well doesn't at the moment ! and I aint getting an Xbox controller for my PC thanks !
and the worst...
It will support Track IR... again.. it doesn't...
Codemasters just just trying to sell the game, and then sell the patches / DLC whatever afterwards to give us what it should have been on release...
Mix some aspects of this game with ArmA 2 .. and that would have been OFP 2 done there...
Warthog
13-10-09, 08:57 PM
I just played some more Arma 2; its obvioust that Arma 2 is the real war sim! Just had my head blown off about 10 times in a row trying to assault a base. I think Arma is more realistic, but I still think that coop on either game would be fantastic.
hindle8907
13-10-09, 09:28 PM
arma 2 any one fancy lending me a copy of this game for single player action ~?
right ive been playing for a while now so here are my thoughts.
firstly, its got console port written all over it. Being a realist however, kind of tells you that this is the sign of things to come rather than a one off. Most games in the future will be ported console games as these platforms outsell the PC many to one.
Secondly, the multiplayer is broken. A few friends and I have managed to get it working over hamachi and this seems to let us use the lan features over the internet. But come on CM, broken mulitplayer and no dedicated servers. This is an absolute no no for any modern game (its like mario without stars!)
Thirdly, the controls are quirky. Cant issue commands when moving cant swap weapons when moving. Switch from main gun to grenade to main gun and its like youve popped into the holy grail and you are waiting for someone to finish reading the instructions for the holy grenade of antioch. THe fact that the mouse even works astounds me as everything in the game seems to mimic a ps3 or xbox controller which in my view are **** poor control devices for fps.
Fourthly, camoflage and this one is in my opinion the worst. if you stand 100 yards from someone in a typical wooded area and they crouch down they will be hidden by bushes grass etc. if you look at the same person but do it from say 200 yards then it looks like they are taking a dump in the middle of a clearing!! i.e the bushes are not rendered after certian distances. Now while a understand this at really long distances, when camoflage is so important it is absolute rubbish that if you creep up on a base you are spotted 400 yards away even though you think you are in the middle of a bush garden and all they can see is you lying down in what appears to them to be a green desert. Check it out next time you play its weird.
I sound like im slating it and I am to a certain extent, but there actually is a bloody good game in here. AI works really well like taking cover behind trees, running just below hills for cover. We had one set of AI today drop smoke before retreating! nice touch. The Island itself is excellent and so are the scripted missions, if a little sparse. But then of course we have the editor which I have merrily been playing away with today recreating some scenes from saving private ryan for a map im doing. Co-op is excellent and with the editor offers limitless changes to scenarios for you and your mates to play.
I think it hits that niche market between COD4 and Arma. A game you can just pick adn play but doesnt involve nade spamming and spawn shoot die every few seconds. I grant you that some of the bugs and the multiplayer issue are basically unforgivable in a new release. I do however have some sympathy as the juggernaut that is MW2 will trounce any military shooter released at the same time and I know I wouldnt want ot be releasing a game I had worked 3 years on at the same time. ARMA and ARMA 2 are the true Operation Flash Points 2 and take realism on to the next stage way past OFPDR but to me have lost some of that accesibility for it.
so for me 8/10 for the game thats inside somewhere and 2/10 for execution.
patched and debugged this would be awesome.
my bug fix list in no particular order.
mouse controlled orders
move and orders at same time
faster and more intuitive weapon swaps
foliage that actually offers cover from all distances (Draw distance issue)
fixed multiplayer
being able to move head in vehicles while driving
thats it for now.
Alpinestarhero
14-10-09, 09:19 AM
Played it a bit more yesterday, doing the second mission.
I think I am starting to like this game, I'm slowly beginning to understand the use of orders and how to use them effectivly
I'm yet to do Co-op missions online, but I am slowly beginning to enjoy it.
so for me 8/10 for the game thats inside somewhere and 2/10 for execution.
my bug fix list in no particular order.
mouse controlled orders
move and orders at same time
faster and more intuitive weapon swaps
foliage that actually offers cover from all distances (Draw distance issue)
fixed multiplayer
being able to move head in vehicles while driving
thats it for now.
+1
I just played it long into the night/morning :rolleyes: (on a PS3)
intro and menu:
Very good presentation and sounds, like the style of menu graphic, colours and interim screens, its gritty and has weight to it.
where is the training exercise? learn the controls, weapons and order system in a boot camp? lazy barstools.
In game graphic:
At first I was impressed by the scale and natural feel of the landscape, well populated with trees/grass, rise and falls with ditches and small hills. but a few minutes later as I started to move I noticed 'pop ups', the actual texture of trees changes as you approach it! The texture of trees looks good at a distance and fantastic at close, but the massive jump of texture change between the two as you move around is unforgivable on a game like this! As every time there is a 'pop up' it appears as a possible enemy movement and becomes have distracting. come on, FarCry2 managed it.
As Rog mentioned above, draw distance is a problem too...
The look and few of weapons are first class, from actioning it to look through sight, it all feels just right. I agree that the changing/handling of weapon feels heavy but I like it as it does give weight to objects, after all these are heavy metal toys.
Lighting, is great, from mid day, sun set to moon lit, landscape comes to live as it's colour and shade changes accordingly, they nailed this.
AI - oh dear, I'm not sure if they are being funny and try to reflect the fact that the U.S. likes blue on blue situations! I have got hit but not killed as a result of enemy fire yet, but have die twice, twice in an hour by friendly fire, not from the sky or artillery, but my own team, and not just one or two shots accident, but a RPG into my back from 10m as I take point behind a wall. 15min later, while in pone position firing at a outpost (team in waged, combat spread formation), my support gun unloaded his LMG rounds into my back while he strafe across behind me! whats the point of a waged formation and have orders!
AI can't drive to 'save their lives' :rolleyes:. within 30mins of first mission, I spotted a jeep trying to drive up a cliff, it may be 4x4 but after trying for 5mins, the AI should really rethink and use the road that goes around and up. Then another AI driver going through a village, comes to a junction, doesn't go straight or turn left, he goes into the fencing of the junction... and keeps trying to drive through it, reverse a little, and tries again, straight into the fence! I felt so sorry for the passenger I wanted to shoot the driver for him.
AI likes to swim too, on first mission assaulting the light house on North of the small island, as my team approached, a enemy team of four came running out a house, on to the beach and straight into the sea and stayed they floating, it was a turkey shoot.
Driving, why can't I look around when I drive!!! this is not USA where roads are straight and looking left/right is too much effort! my gods, do they actually hire kids/non drivers to write games now?
Animation: overall is good and I like it, however, I don't like it when the screen goes blank as I get in/out of a vehicle, and there is no driver view, only bonnet or 3rd person, this is plain lazy. but for the love of Queen and country, why is it that when my team approaches to mount a vehicle they magically disappears and 1/2 second later reappears inside it, then the doors open and close automatically? come on guys, we can't have magic spells this day and age, it breaks the very important reality feel that a game like this relies on. I excepted it on OPF1, but no way on OPF2, if it can be done in FarCry2, why not here.
Final note, I enjoyed the game a lot, feels like OPF1 with better look and feel along with new toys and world, but it is too buggy and that spoils the OPF2 world!!!!! Like a sweet V-twin but miss firing at time. IMO it is not ready for release, it has been rushed out before MW2. They better issue fixes and DLC soon.
Alpinestarhero
14-10-09, 09:42 AM
Maybe we should send this thread to CodeMasters? They may then issue updates etc for the game in a bit after finding out how crap it is
mind you, i expect they are keeping an eye on the gamer forums out there, which i expect are flaming the game even mroe than here
Maybe we should send this thread to CodeMasters? They may then issue updates etc for the game in a bit after finding out how crap it is
mind you, i expect they are keeping an eye on the gamer forums out there, which i expect are flaming the game even mroe than here
whats their contact? :smt023
Alpinestarhero
14-10-09, 10:07 AM
whats their contact? :smt023
check their website?
that is the longest post I ever wrote! :D
Alpinestarhero
14-10-09, 10:53 AM
I have a question actually, about the game
How do I administer a field dresing to another squad member?
(Xbox 360 version)
I have a question actually, about the game
How do I administer a field dresing to another squad member?
(Xbox 360 version)
you don't treat him, your medic will, just look at the injured member, bring up quick command, cursor should go blue with a quick command for 'treat', down i think. On the PS3, quick command and fire buttons are the shoulder buttons R1 & R2, I mixed it up a few times and ended up shooting the barstool :rolleyes: so be careful.
You kinda think they will treat themselves if they are bleeding to death, not them, silly AI...
Alpinestarhero
14-10-09, 11:34 AM
you don't treat him, your medic will, just look at the injured member, bring up quick command, cursor should go blue with a quick command for 'treat', down i think. On the PS3, quick command and fire buttons are the shoulder buttons R1 & R2, I mixed it up a few times and ended up shooting the barstool :rolleyes: so careful.
You kinda think they will treat themselves if they are bleeding to death, not them, silly AI...
ah, will give it a go
Sachs_Rider
14-10-09, 06:31 PM
I have not flown a helicopter yet and i am on like mission 7
I have not flown a helicopter yet and i am on like mission 7
in opf1, i used to shoot the pilot, he falls out of the seat and I take over. but it seems opf2 is too scripted for this sort of thing :rolleyes:
Sachs_Rider
14-10-09, 06:50 PM
:) it is a poor sight when you cannot even shoot a team mate ;)
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