Some faith restored in the police force.

[yorkie_chris]

Some friend of mine was going through a traffic light controlled crossroads a few weeks ago, a woman driving a big people carrier turned right across their path with no signal nor thought to oncoming traffic, quite obviously engrossed in conversation on a mobile. The bike was brought to a very swift and controlled stop with the riders rectum going into near spasm.
The unnamed biker then turned after said wench, pulling alongside next to a petrol station just next to a pedestrian crossing, on tapping on the window and politely enquiring "what the f*ck she thought she was doing", the driver of the car gave the motorcyclist a rather dirty look and continued her conversation.
Driven by a sudden passion for the safety of other road users, the motorcyclist then did take the said mobile device (an iPhone no less), and cast it with great force onto the roof of the petrol station.
Of course with Murphys law in full force, the little blue lights then appeared in the grill of the vectra behind, whose occupants had actually seen the entire crossroads incident. The officer in the car then politely reminded the motorcyclist "just because it's deserved doesn't make it legal", and then advised him "now get the f*ck out of my sight before I change my mind". And as the motorcyclist proceeded about his lawful business, was seen to be giving said sl4g driving the car an almighty rollocking to rival any army drill sargeant out there!

Lucky one to escape the crash, or the resulting charge for wanging an expensive phone at the scenery, but great result!:smt043

[barwel1992]

hahah nice one :) nearly got side swiped buy a granny to day used my horn and all and she still dident notice me so will be geting one of those bloody loud things :D

[Fizzy Fish]

Far be it for me to support taking the law into your own hands....but I do love a story with a happy ending! :thumbsup:

[pookie]

Deaf and blind ..a menace to all road users!

hahah nice one :) nearly got side swiped buy a granny to day used my horn and all and she still dident notice me so will be geting one of those bloody loud things :D

[Specialone]

Cool man.
The thing that really boils my carrotts is the arrogance of them when you question their actions, its as though, im in a big car (which i cant drive) so fook you.
Where's the garage, i could do with an iphone lol.

[SoulKiss]

I have to disagree with this.

Maybe its because having actually been sideswiped by the car, then after exchanging details, I ended up being assaulted, and when the only time I struck out at anything was the cars bonnet as the guy that assaulted me tried to intimidate me to move from in front of his car by driving into my legs.

I ended up in the cells for the day and was fully processed, fingerprints, DNA, photos, the lot.

So no faith due to the fact that how you are treated comes down to whether the cop you speak to got laid last night...

[simesb]

the little blue lights then appeared in the grill of the vectra behind, whose occupants had actually seen the entire crossroads incident. The officer in the car then politely reminded the motorcyclist "just because it's deserved doesn't make it legal"

So they were going to let her off with nearly killing a motorcyclist whilst on a mobile phone until said motorcyclist committed another criminal act? And this restores your faith in the police. Surely them sticking the blues on after having seen the incident would have been the appropriate thing for them to do?

[Von Teese]

Loving the way that a 'faith restored' turns to 'police hate thread' within 6 posts.

Just remember that the road traffic offence carries less than that for a criminal damage !

If she had decided to make a complaint, our unnamed biker friend would have been in more trouble than she would have.

I think the officer got rid of the rider sharpish to prevent this. If he hung around the shock might have worn off said wench and the poor biker might have found himself 'taking a trip'.

Unfortunately no one said the law is fair, and unfortunately we dont get to make the decisions once a complaint is made unless there really is evidence to the contrary and sometimes when blind eyes are turned officers 'doing the morally right thing' find themselves in a lot of hot water.

I think he took a risk in this to protect the rider, the car driver would hardly appreciate it if he took the rider's side and had a laugh before jovially sending him on his way in the eyes of the law the rider committed a crime (Criminal Damage) despite any wrongdoing by the other party it is still an offence for which he could have been arrested.

The officer was rude to allow her to feel some justice was being served for her broken phone before she actually realised what was going on.

[custard]

fair play - ish.

but. if they saw the whole thing why the hell did they wait before speaking with the driver?

[Bluepete]

but. if they saw the whole thing why the hell did they wait before speaking with the driver?


Do you know how long the interval was between the cops seeing the mobile phone use at the junction and our hero having a pop?

Maybe they were running PNC checks on the car and looking for a safe place to stop her in order to give her a ticket or report for a due care.

Don't be so fast to criticise without being in full possession of the facts.

[RichT]

Put a smile on my face anyhow.

[SoulKiss]

Loving the way that a 'faith restored' turns to 'police hate thread' within 6 posts.

Love ya really hun :) (and you too BluePete, in a manly, Platonic way, not a messy Bear way...)

I do have to say in this case I DO think that the officer did the right thing.

My comment was based on the variability of how things are dealt with,

Dont forget my last official contact with the Police where I was encouraged NOT to press charges whith the process being described as particularly arduous, then threatened with arrest if I did on a completely made-up/incredulous Criminal Damage charge, then finally arrested after not backing down.

And how could I ever be against anything that gets another iPhone out of commision :p

[Owenski]

Do you know how long the interval was between the cops seeing the mobile phone use at the junction and our hero having a pop?

Maybe they were running PNC checks on the car and looking for a safe place to stop her in order to give her a ticket or report for a due care.

Don't be so fast to criticise without being in full possession of the facts.

My thoughts exsactly, they need to inform people/get plate details before making the stop besides its human nature to just let things play out and see what happens. Had said biker simply shouted some nasties and ridden off, then the police may have pulled the car over and done her for using he phone whilst driving. As it happens, she got punished in a far better way, she's lost all her contact and her friend has been left chatting to a petrol station roof.

Biker got away scot free, and feeling better about a potentionally dangerous collision would have ridden with a much clearer head than had they not followed said bitch. I say well done police officer for looking at the bigger picture, rather than as VT said about following the book.

[Von Teese]

SK , you know my thoughts about what happened and I gave you the advice.

However when something like this happens there is no need to slate it simply because of a few personal bad experiences.

Pete is right, checks need to be done first for officer safety issues and other reasons.

[custard]

SK , you know my thoughts about what happened and I gave you the advice.

However when something like this happens there is no need to slate it simply because of a few personal bad experiences.

Pete is right, checks need to be done first for officer safety issues and other reasons.



ermmm. i have seen two coppers run down the road after a vehicle to give them an fpn for being on the phone. admittedly the twonk did drive past a police station whilst everyone was doing a fire drill...

dunno, just seems odd that they only intervened when there was about to be a breach of the peace... but as you say we dont know the full facts...

fair play to the biker however :)

[Von Teese]

Actually one thing I must say when I see these police slating things about how badly incidents were dealt with by officers:

I feel like an Uber Uber super fabby cop hahahahahahha!

[custard]

Actually one thing I must say when I see these police slating things about how badly incidents were dealt with by officers:

I feel like an Uber Uber super fabby cop hahahahahahha!


i have loadsa stories.

my favourite. hmm two known criminals, school burglar alarm going off very close by. hmm what to do... on your way son. oh hang on, the other ones legged it. guess i will just have to submit that as intel...

exactly why i left. i now have no faith that if i ever reported a crime that it would be dealt with at all correctly.

[Von Teese]

I can beat that...!

One thick bobby a very long time ago in Daventry actually HELPED the burlgars get the telly in their car! Muppet! He thought they were moving...God give me strength!

[custard]

lmao!!! i can well believe it!

[Von Teese]

It does make you wonder sometimes!!

Haha! One officer gave a ticket to a parked up vehicle outside the police station for exceeding the 15 mins allocated waiting time.

Turned out that it belonged to the Area Commander who had gotten tied up with a serious offence when he just 'popped in to get something', if he had known he would be held up he has his own allocated parking spot inside the nick, she even PNC checked it before the ticket was written and still didnt put 2 and 2 together!

[SoulKiss]

It does make you wonder sometimes!!

Haha! One officer gave a ticket to a parked up vehicle outside the police station for exceeding the 15 mins allocated waiting time.

Turned out that it belonged to the Area Commander who had gotten tied up with a serious offence when he just 'popped in to get something', if he had known he would be held up he has his own allocated parking spot inside the nick, she even PNC checked it before the ticket was written and still didnt put 2 and 2 together!


I bet that was a bad day for you, erm her :p

[Dave20046]

Nice story :) Although I do worry her phone was insured :(
Or even worse if there's an app for recovering iphones from grimey forecourt roofs.

[custard]

matey in panda car circa mid 1970's comes across men moving sheep. ever the helpful officer he and his colleague stop traffic so said gents could better load their flock.

turns out they were rustlers. :)

[Milky Bar Kid]

Actually one thing I must say when I see these police slating things about how badly incidents were dealt with by officers:

I feel like an Uber Uber super fabby cop hahahahahahha!


Yeh, here's another one..I'm struggling with a guy, on my own, whilst he's trying o swallow a LARGE amount of drugs. On my own, shouting for assistance. My "colleague" drives past us............:smt104

[Luckypants]

Boys and Girls of the police, you are not helping our confidence levels! :plod:

[SoulKiss]

Boys and Girls of the police, you are not helping our confidence levels! :plod:

However they are restoring the faith that they are actual people, and not just walking genitallia :p

More stories please :p

EDIT: By they I mean The Police in general, not any individual, named or otherwise.

[yorkie_chris]

Do you know how long the interval was


A minute, maybe 2.

[wattyfred89]

:D wicked

[punyXpress]

The worrying thing is that the person she was calling is STILL on their phone...
" Ethel, Ethel, ETHEL are you there? "
Hopefully not driving in my area.
Slight derail:
Often tempted by cars left running while driver goes off for a ???
Feel like taking keys out & popping them into nearest letter box ( next collection Monday )

[Red Herring]

EDIT: By they I mean The Police in general, not any individual, named or otherwise.

Yeah right... We've got your number...:D

[Von Teese]

Last night:

I get deployed for a grade 1 burglary in progress
Me: do you have anyone else,Im in the middle of a statement at the moment.
Controller: no I have no other resources, you're it
Me: *sigh, Ok what have you got
Controller: Burglary in progress, still happening, we have 3 running, one is carrying a 40 inch plasma screen TV
Me: 10.5 (en route)
Officer1: I will back up
Officer 2: Have you got a direction, I will make that too
Officer 3: I have 2 special constables with me, we will make too
Dog man: Heard that, make sure they dont wreck my track
Me: can we have X55 up please and a description when possible
Controller: Yes yes
Officer 4: Where is this I will make too.

Strangely enough when they didnt find them everyone buggered off leaving me to do the paperwork...aww feckem, someone has to , but the nice old lady gave me a lovely cup of tea and a kitkat!

[Red Herring]

Reminds me of that famous story...
Caller- Hi, I think I've got a prowler in my back garden.
Police control - Sorry, we haven't any spare patrols at the moment, we'll get someone round when we can.

10 minutes later

Caller - Hi, a rang a few minutes ago about a prowler, don't worry there's no need to rush, I've shot him so he's not going anywhere.
Police control - What!

10 minutes later

Three armed response vehicles, two dog handlers and the duty inspector have turned up and searched the blokes garden. "I thought you said you had shot the prowler" asks the Inspector. "I thought you said you didn't have anyone available" replies the householder...

[RichT]

Haha - like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OgFCurtqM

[husky03]

One night i'm out with a guy i hate for my neighbour:toss:,its pitchblack, and we're walking around a eight foot fence on the outside of a playpark-there's a group people inside, drinking and smoking hash, shouting and annoying the neighbours-plan is to climb the fence and sneak up on them-i get to the top of the fence and before i can jump, i slip and my foot gets caught between two of the spars, resulting in me hanging upside down with one leg wedged and i cannot move, and can't reach the ground-what does the dipstick that i'm working with do ?does he help me?-no the fud gets his mobile phone out and starts taking pictures-finally helps me down then sends the pictures to the shift-if you only new half of what happens you'd see that we are human(nearly):wink:

[fizzwheel]

but the nice old lady gave me a lovely cup of tea and a kitkat!

And how did Dirtydog feel about that...

[Daimo]

It does make you wonder sometimes!!

Haha! One officer gave a ticket to a parked up vehicle outside the police station for exceeding the 15 mins allocated waiting time.

Turned out that it belonged to the Area Commander who had gotten tied up with a serious offence when he just 'popped in to get something', if he had known he would be held up he has his own allocated parking spot inside the nick, she even PNC checked it before the ticket was written and still didnt put 2 and 2 together!



Doesn't matter in my eyes. He shouldn't have parked there, and if he'd got caught up, it is the AC's dutie to move their car or get someone to move it.

If i'd parked in a 15 min waiting zone, but got held up in a post office or something and got a ticket after 17 minutes, does that make it right I got a ticket? Can't do 1 rule for 1, and another rule for general public.


No probs with the police in this instance, as said, could have been running a check on the car or anything. Having a huge go at the women (PC) would have taken her eyes off of getting the bike reg number, hence the officer telling the biker to get lost quickly. He can't be done, the women won't remember the reg, the officer can then deal with her however they see fit.

tbh, if she'd have done that to me, i'd have nabbed the phone and tossed it as well. So nearly considered it before, but with teh drivers car keys :smt097 :lol: But I haven't.....

[Von Teese]

If i'd parked in a 15 min waiting zone, but got held up in a post office

In his defence, a slight difference between a post office queue and a child who just got abducted.

[-Ralph-]

Last night:

I get deployed for a grade 1 burglary in progress
Me: do you have anyone else,Im in the middle of a statement at the moment.
Controller: no I have no other resources, you're it

Officer1: I will back up

Officer 2: Have you got a direction, I will make that too

Officer 3: I have 2 special constables with me, we will make too

Dog man: Heard that, make sure they dont wreck my track

Officer 4: Where is this I will make too.


So when they say there's no resource to deal with something is it usualy complete tosh?

Doesn't matter in my eyes. He shouldn't have parked there, and if he'd got caught up, it is the AC's dutie to move their car or get someone to move it.

If i'd parked in a 15 min waiting zone, but got held up in a post office or something and got a ticket after 17 minutes, does that make it right I got a ticket? Can't do 1 rule for 1, and another rule for general public.


No probs with the police in this instance, as said, could have been running a check on the car or anything. Having a huge go at the women (PC) would have taken her eyes off of getting the bike reg number, hence the officer telling the biker to get lost quickly. He can't be done, the women won't remember the reg, the officer can then deal with her however they see fit.

tbh, if she'd have done that to me, i'd have nabbed the phone and tossed it as well. So nearly considered it before, but with teh drivers car keys :smt097 :lol: But I haven't.....

In his defence, a slight difference between a post office queue and a child who just got abducted.

There's a difference Viney being carted off in an ambulance and leaving his crashed bike behind, and him leaving it illegally parked, but he still got a ticket and he'll still have to appeal it via the normal process. I agree that it shouldn't matter who's car it is, if a ticket would normally be written, a ticket should be written. If if the officer had realised it was his car, she didn't know where he was or about the abducted child, he could well have been in the post office queue.

[davepreston]

back to the op
well done plod, so some are sneeking through training with commen sense in tact,and as stated the law is the law but lets be honest a bit discreshion makes a better copper
good job that plod

[custard]

Last night:

I get deployed for a grade 1 burglary in progress
Me: do you have anyone else,Im in the middle of a statement at the moment.
Controller: no I have no other resources, you're it
Me: *sigh, Ok what have you got
Controller: Burglary in progress, still happening, we have 3 running, one is carrying a 40 inch plasma screen TV
Me: 10.5 (en route)
Officer1: I will back up
Officer 2: Have you got a direction, I will make that too
Officer 3: I have 2 special constables with me, we will make too
Dog man: Heard that, make sure they dont wreck my track
Me: can we have X55 up please and a description when possible
Controller: Yes yes
Officer 4: Where is this I will make too.

Strangely enough when they didnt find them everyone buggered off leaving me to do the paperwork...aww feckem, someone has to , but the nice old lady gave me a lovely cup of tea and a kitkat!



vt - it seems you are one of the few who actually gives a damn. it always struck me that the force was full of kids all wanting to do the exciting stuff and the rest of the work is just something to be skived out of. If i am honest i would say that is 99% of the problem with the police.

[Milky Bar Kid]

vt - it seems you are one of the few who actually gives a damn. it always struck me that the force was full of kids all wanting to do the exciting stuff and the rest of the work is just something to be skived out of. If i am honest i would say that is 99% of the problem with the police.

Not me!!! I likes the exciting stuff but I take the good with the bad! I did an 18 hour shift yesterday and most of that was paperwork for one incident!!

[metalangel]

Yeh, here's another one..I'm struggling with a guy, on my own, whilst he's trying o swallow a LARGE amount of drugs. On my own, shouting for assistance. My "colleague" drives past us............:smt104

Yeah wtf, after my missus and I were set upon by chavs last year we were standing there in shock, missus covered in blood, paramedic car cruises past (not in any rush, no flashing lights), I wave frantically to them and they just look at me and carry on. :smt093

[rob13]

Where did the police explosion come from all of a sudden? I thought there were only a few on here, now there's a shift full!

Custard, you're probably right about the excitement thing. The problem with that is the job is probably 5% excitement.

[svdemon]

The problem is the law is a joke, when is it going to get modernised? This country needs a serious shake up!!!!

[Bluepete]

But surely, with the thousands of new laws the Labour Gov't has brought in since they came to power, it has been modernised?

[svtomo]

some great stories here. my old man was a copper for 15+ years and has some great old school stories (ashes to ashes style). how much about them is true i cant say but the officer in the op should be made chief of police!!

[svtomo]

But surely, with the thousands of new laws the Labour Gov't has brought in since they came to power, it has been modernised?


laws have been modernised perhaps but there is now no punishment if you break them.
im 24 and still remember getting leathered and otherwise under the influence around the town and not even being bothered about a pair of bobbies walking round the corner because we knew it wouldnt be worth their while taking any action.
maybe things would be different if they were allowed to give us a clip round the ear!!

[svdemon]

But surely, with the thousands of new laws the Labour Gov't has brought in since they came to power, it has been modernised?

Woman with no drivers licence or insurance kills motorcyclist by driving into his path, 9 months jail. Two old men get done for robbing a shop, 18 months in jail. I see what you mean the law is totally fair!

[ooger]

Woman with no drivers licence or insurance kills motorcyclist by driving into his path, 9 months jail. Two old men get done for robbing a shop, 18 months in jail. I see what you mean the law is totally fair!

Lets not get confused here.

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime, and the courts, who prosecute the offenders.

The 2 are not directly linked. If a driver is caught with no license and gets a £300 fine for nearly missing a pedestrian, its not the police's fault, all they're doing is reporting them for the offence....how a punishment may not fit a crime is a different thread.....

[yorkie_chris]

laws have been modernised perhaps but there is now no punishment if you break them.
im 24 and still remember getting leathered and otherwise under the influence around the town and not even being bothered about a pair of bobbies walking round the corner because we knew it wouldnt be worth their while taking any action.
maybe things would be different if they were allowed to give us a clip round the ear!!

Being drunk isn't a particularly serious crime if you're doing no harm to anyone...

[svtomo]

Being drunk isn't a particularly serious crime if you're doing no harm to anyone...

i totally agree, the law i hate the most that i can think of off the top of my head is not wearing a seatbelt! why cant i think for myself? its all gone pete tong!

[svtomo]

sorry, may have misunderstood what you meant there yc, the point i was making is that all the 'petty' laws never seem to be enforced anyway.
if you (or your friend!) see that copper again give him a wave from me

[Nelson]

vt - it seems you are one of the few who actually gives a damn. it always struck me that the force was full of kids all wanting to do the exciting stuff and the rest of the work is just something to be skived out of. If i am honest i would say that is 99% of the problem with the police.

Hmmm. My experience is the opposite. There's only one guy on my shift who doesnt want to get stuck in, and he's got the most service on the team. If anyone wants to Skive, it's him. Oh wait - he's gone off sick with stress, what a loss.

Just out of interest Custard, when did you leave? And what would you do if you were the victim of a crime, lets say a housebreaking (Burglary in Englandshire)?

[Red Herring]

i totally agree, the law i hate the most that i can think of off the top of my head is not wearing a seatbelt! why cant i think for myself? its all gone pete tong!

Let's just work that one through shall we? You think you should be able to make you own mind up whether or not you wear a seat belt? That would be fine if you were the only person likely to be affected by your decision, unfortunately you're not...

"Accidents" happen, and if they should you have a significantly greater chance of surviving intact if you wear a seat belt. It may well be that in your case nobody would notice your departure, however I suspect someone out there loves you and might grieve a little and if taking a second to put a belt on avoids that is it really to much to ask? If that doesn't convince you then let me be completely cold about it, it costs the rest of society somewhere in the region of a million quid every time some plonker posts themselves through their windscreen, and personally I can think of far more productive things to spend our money on...

[-Ralph-]

it costs the rest of society somewhere in the region of a million quid every time some plonker posts themselves through their windscreen

Seriously? Heard the cost to society argument before, but when you put a number on it it suddenly becomes much more convincing! :smt103 Or is that just 'cos I'm in sales? :p

[DarrenSV650S]

Some friend of mine was going through a traffic light controlled crossroads a few weeks ago, a woman driving a big people carrier turned right across their path with no signal nor thought to oncoming traffic, quite obviously engrossed in conversation on a mobile. The bike was brought to a very swift and controlled stop with the riders rectum going into near spasm.
The unnamed biker then turned after said wench, pulling alongside next to a petrol station just next to a pedestrian crossing, on tapping on the window and politely enquiring "what the f*ck she thought she was doing", the driver of the car gave the motorcyclist a rather dirty look and continued her conversation.
Driven by a sudden passion for the safety of other road users, the motorcyclist then did take the said mobile device (an iPhone no less), and cast it with great force onto the roof of the petrol station.
Of course with Murphys law in full force, the little blue lights then appeared in the grill of the vectra behind, whose occupants had actually seen the entire crossroads incident. The officer in the car then politely reminded the motorcyclist "just because it's deserved doesn't make it legal", and then advised him "now get the f*ck out of my sight before I change my mind". And as the motorcyclist proceeded about his lawful business, was seen to be giving said sl4g driving the car an almighty rollocking to rival any army drill sargeant out there!

Lucky one to escape the crash, or the resulting charge for wanging an expensive phone at the scenery, but great result!:smt043
Quality!! :D

[Balky001]

a great story beautifully told, nice one Yorkie

[Von Teese]

Had a woman chatting on her mobile right next to my patrol car at the red lights on a roundabout today.
She nearly actually went through while they were still on red because she wasnt concentrating.

I pulled her over and she had a tiny baby in its baby seat in the car. I gave her a bit of a lecture about being on the phone and not caring about her child.
She was really rude and cocky to me saying that she had it on speakerphone (still illegal)and told me not to tell her what to do with her child.

I decided to prosecute her as she was clearly not bothered about the consequences, I was so tempted to launch her mobile across the road and say 'there you go, better than points on your licence eh?'

After I cautioned her I asked her if she had any reply to caution
She said 'Yes, I wish I had kept my damn big mouth shut'

[Red Herring]

Seriously? Heard the cost to society argument before, but when you put a number on it it suddenly becomes much more convincing! :smt103 Or is that just 'cos I'm in sales? :p

2003 figures were £1,213,260 per fatality. The way they work it out is always contentious but it's still pretty impactive. I still find it incredible how few riders actually recognize how avoidable most incidents are and even fewer then take responsibility for doing something about it.

[Von Teese]

2003 figures were £1,213,260 per fatality.Doesnt actually suprise me when it costs £3000 just to get the helicopter off the ground! All the investigation then the support to the family, many many officer hours and not to mention other agencies involved.

[custard]

Hmmm. My experience is the opposite. There's only one guy on my shift who doesnt want to get stuck in, and he's got the most service on the team. If anyone wants to Skive, it's him. Oh wait - he's gone off sick with stress, what a loss.

Just out of interest Custard, when did you leave? And what would you do if you were the victim of a crime, lets say a housebreaking (Burglary in Englandshire)?

bout two weeks ago

report it for insurance purposes. i have no faith that the crime would ever be detected, or any property recovered.