View Full Version : Ground anchor on a public road?
Flameboy
11-10-09, 04:30 PM
Any ideas if it would be allowed or has anyone done it ???
small side street outside my house is where I'd intent to place it
Cheers:confused:
Alpinestarhero
11-10-09, 04:33 PM
have a word with your local council. I suspect if you just went and did it, that'd be some sort of criminal damage or in breach of some highways act or something. Its public property afterall
Gotta thing about some other things aswell, like people tripping over it, other people using it etc etc
i'm gonna go with they'd just say no. If it was allowed I reckon a lot more people would have done it already...
nik_nunez
11-10-09, 04:47 PM
they will say no, to much possibly liability for the council.
DarrenSV650S
11-10-09, 04:49 PM
Is there not a lampy or something you can chain it to?
ethariel
11-10-09, 04:51 PM
Get one of the recessed ones with the lid that a chain goes into, as long as it's not a trip hazzard then there is no real liability, if it's not too noticable then you won't get caught and if you do it when it's dark no one can see you get your hands dirty :)
skeetly
11-10-09, 05:31 PM
They'll say no and if you do it without asking they will track you down, nuke you from orbit and worse of all; send you a huge bill for removing it and making good to the road.
sv-robo
11-10-09, 05:49 PM
they will say no, to much possibly liability for the council.
Especially if someone trips over it lol.
Flameboy
11-10-09, 06:24 PM
all the lamp posts are across the pavement, put my bike on there before but of course someone complained... not that anyone would have trouble walking past it :smt108
Flameboy
11-10-09, 06:27 PM
Especially if someone trips over it lol.
Not that anyone risks tripping over the 100s of uneven/broken slabs they lay around the area right? :rolleyes:
metalmonkey
11-10-09, 07:54 PM
Not that anyone risks tripping over the 100s of uneven/broken slabs they lay around the area right? :rolleyes:
Haha yeah true there always seems to holes in the road around London I think they do it fun, a bugger when ur ****ed gives something else to fall into!
Right being serious...Could you not fill something like a big buckect full of concret, then fabric something for a chain to go through? Would that work, if it was made heavy enough? Then at least it can't be said its a permant thing. Tbh if someone trips over then I think its their own dam fault, will teach them look.
Flameboy
11-10-09, 07:58 PM
Haha yeah true there always seems to holes in the road around London I think they do it fun, a bugger when ur ****ed gives something else to fall into!
Right being serious...Could you not fill something like a big buckect full of concret, then fabric something for a chain to go through? Would that work, if it was made heavy enough? Then at least it can't be said its a permant thing. Tbh if someone trips over then I think its their own dam fault, will teach them look.
yeah i like that idea - might give it a try tomorrow
DarrenSV650S
11-10-09, 07:59 PM
Chain it to a car
MR UKI (1)
11-10-09, 08:39 PM
I've chained mine to a manhole cover before.
-Ralph-
11-10-09, 09:51 PM
if you do it when it's dark no one can see you get your hands dirty :)
they will track you down
The reg plate of the bike that's chained to it every night might help.
Could you fit it or something to your house or garden wall?
Alan
My advice: Don't ask - there's no reason they would let you.
Do it anyway - even if you're bike is locked to it how will they prove you did it - just say you found it there, must have been the previous occupier ;)
Get a recessed one to avoid the trip hazard.
Edit : went off to google it & this thread is 3rd in a search for recessed ground anchors - so you must be asking in te right place :D
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/stu369/anchor.jpg
speedplay
11-10-09, 11:50 PM
My advice: Don't ask - there's no reason they would let you.
Do it anyway - even if you're bike is locked to it how will they prove you did it - just say you found it there, must have been the previous occupier ;)
Get a recessed one to avoid the trip hazard.
Edit : went off to google it & this thread is 3rd in a search for recessed ground anchors - so you must be asking in te right place :D
Not a great idea.
I know your innocent until proven guilty (supposed to be anyway) but its more hastle than its worth.
Anybody could see you doing it and report you.
Neighbours are great for reporting things that nobody sees...:rolleyes:
As pointed out already, a ground anchor, outside your house with your bike attached to it might be a bit of a clue as to who put it there.
roads are inspected by highways dept more regularly than you think and it will be noticed.
The bucket full of concrete is a good idea (seem to remember someone on here selling a yellow pointy attached to a bucket of concrete).
-Ralph-
11-10-09, 11:53 PM
Even if they can't prove it's you, they can rip it up and repair the hole, then since you denied ownership, away in a council van goes the ground anchor you just spent hundreds on.
-Ralph-
11-10-09, 11:59 PM
outside my house
Is this a house or a flat? If a house surely you have at least a front or back yard with one external wall you could bolt a ground anchor to.
Flameboy
12-10-09, 12:33 AM
Is this a house or a flat? If a house surely you have at least a front or back yard with one external wall you could bolt a ground anchor to.
front garden is around 1sq meter, and attaching it to the wall would mean leaving the bike on the pavement - I've already had letters through the door telling me to put my bin away after 1 day of it being out :toss: I managed to fit my old bike down the entrance but i needed to cut the bars down - won't be doing that with the sv
i like the bucket of concrete idea though - I'll definitely give that a try
Cheers all ;)
rictus01
12-10-09, 01:35 AM
with the CCM I tend to hook a chain through the large drain grate in the road as it's easy to lift; being a very light bike.
Cheers Mark.
The bucket full of concrete is a good idea (seem to remember someone on here selling a yellow pointy attached to a bucket of concrete).
That was me. The Bike has moved on, For all I know the bucket of concrete is still in Situ - I couldn't shift it. :rolleyes:
Like Rictus's drain idea.
Owenski
12-10-09, 11:04 AM
does the pavement run infront of your house/wall/other solid objects you could fit a bolt on ancor too?
Sod the complaints, if the council complain then say fine ill move it... if you let me fit one to the kerb edgeing.
petevtwin650
12-10-09, 11:23 AM
Firstly you have said several times that your neighbours are the type to complain about anything they don't like.
Secondly, how would any of those saying do it feel, if their neighbours started erecting lockable posts so they could park outside their own properties.
If it were legal somebody would be selling ones specifically for the purpose you are suggesting.
If you are doing any work - anything at all - to the public highway you need a srtreet works licence. If you don't have one it's an offence - s131 Highways Act 1980. I think the fine is up to £5K. Your bucket of concrete might be an obstruction of the highway, also an offence under s133.
Tread carefully.
IrishRob
12-10-09, 12:15 PM
Last place I lived had designated parking (bricked covering), I fitted a flush ground anchor (£60) so that only one of the bricks was removed. Since I moved house I have noticed another Kawasaki ZX6 using it, although I am not happy that he decides to leave the chain in it when he is away, which kind of defeats the purpose of flush fitting. Hopefully this is not my problem anymore... There was also a drainage cover there so when I was away for a few weeks I could put chains through both wheels, all I needed was a folded up metal coat hanger to loop the chain back through.
Without digging up the road I say that the concreted cone is best idea. If you can park near grass maybe also consider one of those security devices for barbeques and the like - like a giant corkscrew they fit into soft ground. Not as secure but if you park your bike over it then any thieves will still have to lift up the bike and turn it around to get the device out, or dig it out.
Alpinestarhero
12-10-09, 01:23 PM
yeah i like that idea - might give it a try tomorrow
i used such a tactic for a year. Couple it with a sturdy chain and lock (contact almax!) and it would be a good theft deterant. Instead of two blokes to lift your bike away, three or four would be required which could put off alot of organised criminals.
Flameboy
12-10-09, 03:33 PM
If you are doing any work - anything at all - to the public highway you need a srtreet works licence. If you don't have one it's an offence - s131 Highways Act 1980. I think the fine is up to £5K. Your bucket of concrete might be an obstruction of the highway, also an offence under s133.
Tread carefully.
I doubt the concrete would be an obstruction as it would be kept off public property any time it's not in use and when it is being used it would be covered along with the bike.
yorkie_chris
12-10-09, 09:45 PM
Even if they can't prove it's you, they can rip it up and repair the hole, then since you denied ownership, away in a council van goes the ground anchor you just spent hundreds on.
100's? Hell fire!
I'll weld you one up for a tenner than you can fit in a couple of minutes.
If you want to spend 100's I'll even come round with a black mask on and fit it for you!
-Ralph-
13-10-09, 09:13 PM
100's? Hell fire!
I'll weld you one up for a tenner than you can fit in a couple of minutes.
If you want to spend 100's I'll even come round with a black mask on and fit it for you!
But it wouldn't be Sold Secure Gold Approved.....:rolleyes: ;)
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