MOT Advisory Notice

[mikebrooman]

Just got the bike back from its MOT and it had an advisory notice, can anyone help explain what they all mean?!

1. Front Wheel bearings are slightly rough
2. Steering headbearing has slight free play
3. Swivel Plate - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'
4. Wheel Raised - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'

Any help!?
Thanks

[timwilky]

judging by your avatar, it reads like your landings have been a bit rough.

[Amanda]

Need to replace head bearings and wheel bearings!!! Dangerous if you don't do it

[sam anon]

What exactly is a swivel plate?

[sv_rory]

judging by your avatar, it reads like your landings have been a bit rough.


That would most certainly explain a lot

[Dave20046]

If you're on an SV (possibly only applies to thine curvy)swap to tapered head bearings when you replace them. They're more hard wearing.

[speedplay]

What exactly is a swivel plate?


Exactly what is says.

Its a plate that they put the front wheel on to see how the steering acts with the weight of the bike on it.

(havnt seen it done in many MOT bays though )

[7755matt]

And, to a point, removes the friction from the floor to allow a better inspection of headrace bearings.

Most testers don't use them as they aren't mandatory equipment in a class I or II station

Advisory is just that, the tester recommends you get it sorted sooner rather than later. If they were a major problem, most bike testers Ive met would have failed them as they are so important

[dirtydog]

(havnt seen it done in many MOT bays though )

My MOT place has one and have used it for every MOT they've done on my bikes

Most testers don't use them as they aren't mandatory equipment in a class I or II station




See above :)

[speedplay]

My MOT place has one and have used it for every MOT they've done on my bikes




Probably more worried about benelli build quality... ;)

[ejohnh]

that 'slightly' stuff sounds like bullsh*t to me.. Check it yourself. If it feels like it needs fixing, fix it. My car failed the MOT last year due to defective wipers. The garage wanted £16 to 'fix' it. The damn things just needed a wipe over and then it passed. But I'm a cynic..

[Dave20046]

If they were trying to con him I would have thought they would have failed it rather than advised him it needed doing :scratch:

[7755matt]

Interesting, how much did the MOT cost by the way?

There is a difference between failing for no real reason and giving an advisory, where they are saying its passed but covering themselves by saying those things will need fixing soon, whether they do the work or someone else

[timwilky]

I know of a tester, (Amanda M's brother) who gave himself an advisory.

At the end of the day it is what it says, advising that something needs doing. It is not in a condition where it fails to meet the MOT requirement, but you need to address it.

[embee]

If I understand things correctly, the authorities are coming down hard on MOT testers, "one strike and you're out" if they get anything wrong, and they are issuing advisories on all sorts of things now to cover themselves a bit.

There has been a discussion started on this topic in another forum, one bike had an advisory on "steering angle limit" when it is completely standard. Today I've fitted some new rear brake pads to a friends Vectra, they had an advisory at the MOT a couple of weeks ago. The new pad friction material is about 9mm thick, the old "advised" ones were 5mm thick, a bit premature I reckon. I suspect we'll see more and more of this. Basically if it's not brand new it'll get an advisory because it's worn.

Having said that, if wheel or steering head bearings are notchy they need replacing.

[Dave20046]

Sorry if I'm going slightly off topic but am I going insane or is it possibly for steering to feel a bit loose and to start turning into corner's prematurely? There's no notchiness or movement in the steering but I just get that slight feeling something int quite right.

[ejohnh]

If they were trying to con him I would have thought they would have failed it rather than advised him it needed doing :scratch:

Not saying they were trying to con him. Just trying to justify £30 for a 15min job.

[7755matt]

1 strike and you're out? Rubbish.

Advisories are being used more and more because fewer people have cars serviced regularly and the mechanics already know that.

A common misconception amongst the general motoring public is that an MOT means the vehicle is fit for the next 12 months, whereas actually its only right during the time of the MOT.

If the customer decides to replace an advised item straight away without getting a second opinion then thats down to them. The brake pipes have been advised on my car for the last 2 tests and I know they are still suitable for use.

I think we're actually lucky that more and more testers are willing to use the advisory, as they know there is a fault that isnt bad enough to fail, but want to draw the customers attention to it, if they didnt - imagine the state it could be in in 12 months time.

This is normally far more prevalent in car testing than bike testing. Bike testers tend to be bikers and, in a sense, more liable to give the benefit of doubt to the vehicle presenter

*puts soap box away

[ejohnh]

1 strike and you're out? Rubbish.

Advisories are being used more and more because fewer people have cars serviced regularly and the mechanics already know that.

A common misconception amongst the general motoring public is that an MOT means the vehicle is fit for the next 12 months, whereas actually its only right during the time of the MOT.

If the customer decides to replace an advised item straight away without getting a second opinion then thats down to them. The brake pipes have been advised on my car for the last 2 tests and I know they are still suitable for use.

I think we're actually lucky that more and more testers are willing to use the advisory, as they know there is a fault that isnt bad enough to fail, but want to draw the customers attention to it, if they didnt - imagine the state it could be in in 12 months time.

This is normally far more prevalent in car testing than bike testing. Bike testers tend to be bikers and, in a sense, more liable to give the benefit of doubt to the vehicle presenter

*puts soap box away

you are probably right. The few times I have let garages do 'routine' jobs on my cars I have had the sensation of being ripped off.

[Stu]

Just got the bike back from its MOT and it had an advisory notice, can anyone help explain what they all mean?!

1. Front Wheel bearings are slightly rough
2. Steering headbearing has slight free play
3. Swivel Plate - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'
4. Wheel Raised - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'

Any help!?
Thanks
front Wheel raised is the easy way to test head bearings, but it only tests the top bearing which is less stressed than the bottom bearing, so is unlikely to reveal a problem.
Putting the front wheel on a swivel plate keeps the weight of the bike resting on the bottom bearing just as it is in use and is more likely to reveal a problem*


*well in my case anyway

[davepreston]

ok i'll just answer the op question
change fork bearings top and bottom with some decent ones (i'd get gsxr aftermarket ones) and calm down on the wheelies problem solved
no responce to rest cos i dont have the right to have a soapbox

[dirtydog]

Probably more worried about benelli build quality... ;)


Cheeky bugger, they did it on the SV, Raptor and the TS so :smt019:smt019

[mikebrooman]

Interesting, how much did the MOT cost by the way?


£30 total. It initially failed on head light aim, one too high one too low, but they just readjusted and retested and then it came back with advisory.
Hmmm gixer front end...now that sounds like a nice project!

[sunshine]

i get advisory every year for rear brakes, i dont change them ever because i cant remember the last time i used the rear brake.
With your issues aim to keep the front wheel on the ground and you wont get as much trouble tbh