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Ahhh .... Look I'm in the "proper" section rather than the Banter!! WooO HoooO
Right - question for the geeks??
Drew has just pointed out to me that I might be committing an offence by modding my light. I am getting the rear light with the integrated indicators and the concern is that this would reduce the visibility of the rear brake light??
Thoughts and comments please?
As an aside.... Moore Speed Racing are doing the mods for me so I would have thought they will check the output once done??
fizzwheel
16-10-09, 07:10 PM
Drew has just pointed out to me that I might be committing an offence by modding my light. I am getting the rear light with the integrated indicators and the concern is that this would reduce the visibility of the rear brake light??
Wont comment on the legality of it as not 100% sure... I can give you my experience of following somebody with that rear light fitted.
1. It was difficult to tell when they were braking
2. It was impossible to see if they were indicating left or right.
I followed a GSXR with a similar setup and I couldnt see whether he was indicating either.
IMHO its a sh*t mod, it might look better but you are compromising your safety by doing it.
At the end of the day its up to you...
Dave20046
16-10-09, 07:12 PM
If it's an e-marked piece of kit I believe it's legal (please double check!) doesn't mean it's safe though. I would have thought your brake light would reduce visibility of the indis if anything.
sam anon
16-10-09, 07:13 PM
I think the issue will be they're not legal in the UK, as there is a minimum distance required between the two indicators.
What this distance is, or even whether I'm right is anyones guess!
+1 to Fizz.
You cannot clearly see if the rider is indicatinh, or braking, or both together. If you want it for the clear lens look on the rear light, then don't wire the indy part up, and leave your existing indicators on.
Yeah!! I think I'm with you guys. You have brought up some very good points. I think I was blinkered by the prettiness of it but the practicality of it is limited.
Thanks guys I will tell them I'm gonna leave it. I love my big, fat, safe indicators. x
7755matt
16-10-09, 07:19 PM
They're also an MOT fail due to 'interaction with other lights'
Dave20046
16-10-09, 07:21 PM
They're also an MOT fail due to 'interaction with other lights'
Out of interest if you put led indicators in the standard sidelights on a pointy do you know if this would matt?
sv_rory
16-10-09, 07:23 PM
As far as I'm aware there has to be a legal distance between indicators
7755matt
16-10-09, 07:26 PM
For MOT as long as they dont cause an interaction with any other light and can be properly seen then they will be fine.
There are legal distances between indicators etc, but thats more a Construction and Use ruling than Motor Vehicle Test Regs, so unlikely anyone would ever be measuring them. If it went for an MSVA test then they would, but other than that I cant see it getting spotted.
Should the bike need inspecting fully for any reason then it may become apparent then
edit should be 240mm between rear and 300 on fronts for motorbikes over 50cc
sunshine
17-10-09, 03:57 PM
so out does that mean on a 49cc moped this rule doesnt apply?
no im not thinking of doing it but think thats a little stupid, knowing how stupid 90% of moped riders are!
sam anon
17-10-09, 04:28 PM
I think the issue will be they're not legal in the UK, as there is a minimum distance required between the two indicators.
What this distance is, or even whether I'm right is anyones guess!
so out does that mean on a 49cc moped this rule doesnt apply?
no im not thinking of doing it but think thats a little stupid, knowing how stupid 90% of moped riders are!
I recal the distance legistlation as I read a launch report of European 50cc scooter.
It's integrated rear light/indicators was legal in the country it came from, but needed additional indicators to be road legal in the UK.
sv-robo
17-10-09, 04:36 PM
Ahhh .... Look I'm in the "proper" section rather than the Banter!! WooO HoooO
Right - question for the geeks??
Drew has just pointed out to me that I might be committing an offence by modding my light. I am getting the rear light with the integrated indicators and the concern is that this would reduce the visibility of the rear brake light??
Thoughts and comments please?
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I had some when i owned an sv,fair enough maybe not the brightest,BUT,always past the mot & the plod never pulled me for them,hth.
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