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davepreston
20-10-09, 08:09 PM
well it happened ive tried to overcome my demons but to no avail
after the trip to give my last respects to hovis i will be selling the bikes and cageing it. i just dont feel right on the bike ,mine or other peoples.
but good news what i get for the bikes will be going on beer for the christmas do :)
even the momentess effort by the org to get me mobile again (something i shall never forget)
i just cant get myself in the right place to carry on
tbh i think its everything ,the accidents the bike not feeling right, and to be frank the fear on the roads themselves
with cagers pulling out or squeseing you towards the kerb, zero confidance with no enjoyment, biking has become a misson, a challange, like trying to push the rock up the never ending hill, i just dont see the point any more
i know the few on here that know me well will be slightly shocked by my desison, to be fair i am as well but i cant think of any other thing or reason to continue,
so if ya dont mind i'll carry on posting and attending the social events as i have found some great friends here
ps sorry for the epic styley post
dave
Shellywoozle
20-10-09, 08:15 PM
Hey mate, must have been a hard decision for you and sounds like you have tried and it's just not sitting right.
I was there not so long ago and thankfully am starting to enjoy the bike again, but that is because I gave it a rest then went back to it.
You have got your license for life and always have the option if your heart yearns for 2 wheels.
Stay safe on ya journey tomorrow and have a wikkid Xmas pi$$ up on the bike money.
But my understanding is once ya an orger you're always an orger xx
appollo1
20-10-09, 08:15 PM
i understand completely why you would want to give it all up Dave after what I am sure has been a very emotional few days.
Why not just say you are having a break for a while?
No matter what you choose you know you will always be welcome to post on here - i'm sure others will agree as you have a lot of knowledge to pass on.
thats a shame Dave, not known you for long but your a top guy and your knowledge and banter will be needed on here anyway!, u've helped me out in the past
never say never tho mate, +1 to what shellywoozle and appollo1 said, maybe a break is whats needed
-Ralph-
20-10-09, 08:30 PM
You have got your license for life and always have the option if your heart yearns for 2 wheels.
Which it will given time, it's like fags, you can give up but it never leaves you.
beanie79
20-10-09, 08:33 PM
Stunned. But I do understand. When I first started riding (12 long years ago) I had a number of offs in the first couple of years, and that combined with finances, and being unable to face another winter spent shivering and aching, led me to the tear jerking (no honestly, I cried when I sold it) decision to pack it in and buy a cage.
But I never lost my love of bikes, so after 9 years in the wilderness I returned like the prodigal daughter. I'm still more nervy than many riders and will never be the fearless rider that many are, but damn it feels good to be back. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe a true break from the bike will be good for you, and that in time you will find what the stoopid drivers took away from you.
X
Dave, Miss Ophic is also having problems - leg just not getting better, now she's intimidated by the weight and handling of her bike, she's not been on it for a long time. With my bike off the road awaiting MOT, I've become a cruiser rider for the time being.
But we have both fallen totally in love with this:
http://www.boom-trikes.co.uk/lowrider.html :cool:
Shame about the price tag :mad:
Milky Bar Kid
20-10-09, 08:44 PM
Gotta do whats right for you mate and if you don't feel comfortable whilst riding the bike then that could lead to mistakes.
Totally think that if thats what you feel in your heart of hearts then it is probably the right decision. Like Shell said, if in a couple of months/years/decades you decide you want the thrill again then you have the licence to go for it.
Oh man, I hope this never happens to me...
xXBADGERXx
20-10-09, 09:39 PM
Dude , do what you feel is right , I`ll catch up with you tomorrow for a natter about it all . I didn`t get back on a bike after my big accident , then 2 years later I wandered into the local dealers , yanno , just to have a gander ............. and walked out with a deposit on a KTM Supermoto and thinking "What have I done ?" . You`ll get the hankering again one day , when the duff memories fade and the biking goodness flashes a fin in the depths of your mind and the evil grin comes back .
Kilted Ginger
20-10-09, 10:04 PM
does this mean i'll finally get those muffs you promised me. ;)
Only joking mate. sorry to hear this, but you have to do what is right for you and your family. Also it nt as if you are saying you will never ride again, just that it does not feel right for you right now.
ANyway you will always be welcome here and at mine if the cage ever manages north of the border.
ManxMatt34
20-10-09, 10:07 PM
Pffff just woke you with a phone call Dave, sorry about that.
Can't belive i'm reading this post... hopefully you'll go through winter without a ride, come next year you might get back in the jist.
I almost gave up about 3 months ago after coming round the mountain into that crash where the fella was lying dead in the middle of the road. And 30 minutes later i was a matter of inches from a full head on because of a muppet pulling out on me. ( i made a post somewhere).
But i regained the bug, not been enjoying my riding either much of lately bike feels all wrong, and after the recent tradgedy not really used the bike. But hopefully after a long boring winter i might cya out there again.
I'l call ya when your not trying to sleep.
Itīs a bit like hotel california here ;)
As others have said, give it time, perhaps even sit this winter out and keep the bike until spring. If you still feel the same way sell it then when you can get a bit of extra cash for it.
Never say never, a bit of time and dust of recent events may put things differently in your own mind.
speedplay
20-10-09, 10:36 PM
it's like fags
Hes not turned ghey, hes just giving up bikes for a bit.
Take some time out mate, I know how it feels and have been there myself.
As others have said, take some time out, think about it and if it feels right later on, give it another go.
We will still be here mate ;)
Spiderman
20-10-09, 10:46 PM
fekin wimp.
Make sure you carry a lid in that cage of your if you come visit cos i want you as my pillion biatch for a giggle sometime mate.
And dont you dare leave!
Bluefish
20-10-09, 11:34 PM
fekin wimp.
Make sure you carry a lid in that cage of your if you come visit cos i want you as my pillion biatch for a giggle sometime mate.
And dont you dare leave!
+1, would it be any better on a different bike dave, ie one without problems that would make anybody nervouse riding it, remember what i said after i had taken yours around the block, more scary than an R1 not that i had ever ridden an R1, it did not inspire confidence. in other words the gay bike (pink handlebars) was a death trap :D, and you took all the parts of that to put on your pointy, maybe get a go on some one elses to see if you still feel the same, if you do fairy nuff, you will come back to biking at some point, once a biker allways a biker, see you soon, andy.
TheOnlyNemesis
20-10-09, 11:40 PM
sorry to read that but as others have said, it might be a timing thing rather than permanant but you gotta do what you feel is right, i know atm i'm a bit nervous about getting on my bike again but i'm hoping once i'm on it'll go but if it doesn't, i can see your point, it wouldn't be as enjoyable as it was.
Good luck with the cage and hope you re-find the bug one day
You great big, lanky wooly wooftah! :p
Seriously though, if your mindset isn't right when you're on a bike you shouldn't be on a bike, so at the moment you are making the right decision. Things change, so who knows how you will feel further down the line.
You must do what you feel is right for you.
either you like it and its a joy, or as you say " A Mission"
what ever you decide, I'm sure it will be the correct decision.
BoltonSte
21-10-09, 06:38 AM
Dave, I'll echo what Blufish has said.
the reason I'm swapping to the striple is that I just didn't have the confidence with the SV anymore. I used to be well pleased riding it and then something just clicked and I struggled to gel again after a minor off.
I could still ride OK, just felt wrong. I jumped on my mates street and gelled instantly.
Went for a proper test ride, in wet/wind and loved it, to the point that we were probably going about 90% of what we would on a dry day on those roads.
You've already made up your mind, but maybe a trip to some dealers before you fully jack it all in will let you find something that suits you better?
Oh yeah, just to add, you big lanky poofta, I thought squaddies didn't give in?;)
You want me to come round next sat with the striple and you can have a quick potter?
Ste
Drew Carey
21-10-09, 06:40 AM
Dave, will see you today, and will give you a pat on the back to say well done. If it doesn't feel right and you heart isn't in it the in my opinion you've done the right thing.
Unsensible heads just don't mix well with bikes.
Also, like you I have no bike and won't do for some time, but the friends I've made on here are for life and so like you, for that reason, you will never get rid of me.
Been there.
Have a break. Then come the spring buy a different bike altogether - in between, get p!55ed!
The force is strong in you Obi-One, the Return of the Jedi will happen.
timwilky
21-10-09, 07:10 AM
Enjoy the break lad, you will be back.
The bike bug is related to the herpes bug. You might not be suffering now, but it will come back.
I gave up in 82, 21 years later lying in a hospital bed, determined to change my life. The bug came back.
I can understand the wanting to give up riding on the road is cr*p for all the reasons you have said.
I would advise not giving up biking but trying something different, like selling yours and getting a track bike. You will love it. ITs far more exciting and a lot safer than riding on the road with none of the distractions or worries of the road.
hi Dave.
fully appreciate where your coming form with this descion. i ponder myself sometimes when im out and think of all the things i would leave behind. I did get rid of my bike once and missed it so much went and brought another. Now it spends most of its time getting cleaned in the garage rather than riding it for enjoyment.
this is obviusly a descion you have thought about long and hard and only you will know whether you have made the right choice. I hope whatever u decide to do you do it for only your own realisation and not somebody elses.
Sorry to hear that DP, but you never know you might get back into biking in a while.
Glad to hear you'll be attending the socials anyway :drunken::drink:
maviczap
21-10-09, 08:24 AM
Mucho respecto for posting what is a really difficult thing to say to your mates on here. After a big accident it's always going to be in the back of your mind 'What if'.
So have a break and see what happens.
I've retired more than once and come back, although this time even I'm more nervous of the cagers than before.:-|
Owenski
21-10-09, 08:25 AM
Even though we've only met an spoken a few times I know this wouldnt have been a decidsion made lightly. The enthusiasm you had for getting that curvy back on the road came across in your posts, but now I see it was as much in hope that you'd be able to get your self back on the road too.
To echo what others have said, once an orger always an orger same with biking. One day the sun may be out and the knocks wont ache as much and only one thing will be on your mind :D
Dont be a stranger.
PS Not actually thanked you for the clutch cable yet, I'll be seeing YC soon so that I can collect it.
plowsie
21-10-09, 08:41 AM
Dave, you'll be on a bike doing something, I just know. You can't get a cage, that is hypocritical :-P
Turn the SV into a trackbike! I am thinking of getting another SV for track.
You cant go anywhere mate... every forum needs a mad Irish man!!
You will be back... I am sure. ;)
If you ever fancy a bimble anywhere as pillion then i am only down the road.... If your pride will allow you onto a pointy that is!
Dave
Not read the entire post, but why not just get a towbar, trailer, and track bike?
I know some people who simply won't ride on the road due to the dangers they can endure. They just save their pennies and go on track days all over the place instead, europe, uk etc...
I wouldn't give up biking because of other people. Go tracking, safer, all 1 way, gravel traps, and if the worst happens, a full medical centre on site.
And if you do bin it, you just dont ride until you can afford it, no insurance to worry about, no ncb to loose..
Worth thinking of...
rpwoodman
21-10-09, 11:48 AM
I can totally understand your decision. 6-7 years ago I came off my bike (when riding off-road) and gave myself pretty severe concussion for a few days. I then just wasn't interested in getting back on my bike - not scared or anything, just not interested. A couple of months later, I saw the bike gathering dust in the garage and went out on it and fairly quickly I got my enthusiasm back (well, as much enthusiasm as a fair-weather biker can muster).
There have been a few people who asked what happened on the Hovis thread, but the people who knew didn't want to say. I can totally understand that - they were close to him and it was obviously incredibly upsetting for them (I shed a few tears and I'd never even spoken to him).
Like you, I wondered quite a lot about whether I should continue riding my bike (I've since been out on a few long rides and are happy with it again), and knowing whether it was down to rider-error or something totally out of the riders control would change my outlook on things quite considerably.
If you think this might help (for some people, it may not make a jot of difference), maybe you could approach someone in the know and speak to them about the details (I'd certainly not advocate an open-forum discussion on it) - from what I know of Hovis, he'd be absolutely gutted if he knew that he'd caused someone to leave the biking fraternity - I seem to remember reading something about how patient and undertanding he'd been with someone (might have been Lilly?) when they were learning or trying to improve their confidence.
Whatever decision you take, it's the right one.
ive been in the same boat of late dave'...had my first accident in may this year after 26 years of riding( non fault too/audi driver grr) after undergoing knee surgery im now back on a bike albeit with total loss of confidence that 26 yrs has given me, ive rode 50+ bikes from 50cc to 1300cc and covered on average 25000 miles every year come rain or shine or deep snow..since my off ive been a wobbly scared rider to say the least and its only now im getting back to some kind of normallity, untill i approach a right hander and a red audi comes round fast and its all back to sq 1 again, i too have considered quitting( cos i defo have noticed the roads getting alot more idiots of late)..but i have a large group of biker m8s who talk me round etc etc...stil not 1005 happy to continue but like the rest have said its your decision m8 and i trully trully understand where your coming from....good luck in what u decide and im sure u could always buy a little bike to keep for the odd sunday day tootle( yes i have also considered a 125cc for same thing):oops:
Its something a lot of people consider at the end of summer when they are laying their bike up for winter...events like the end of this year add even more thoughts to that equation.
Good luck with what you decide. You posted this before your ride today... so maybe your opinion will have changed once you get back.
Riding becomes your life.
Icanopit
21-10-09, 05:49 PM
Hi Dave, what a surprise and you hav'nt given me the chance to have a ride-out and a pint with you?
I think that DAIMO makes some very valid points before you finalise. Why don't you and G come and spend the weekend of the 28th November with us, Saturday at Mallory watch some of he ORGER'S at play, the NEC and local shop's for G, all within 30 minutes of ours. Just a thought 2 or 4 wheels. Perhaps one of your local lads is coming down for Mallory, maybe a spare seat?.
AS BT said "It's good to talk"
JOHN
speedplay
21-10-09, 05:52 PM
why not just get a towbar, trailer, and caravan?
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