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CoolGirl
01-11-09, 02:17 PM
I know you lot like your video games, so you might be able to give me some advice on buying an Xbox for a medium-sized child of my acquaintance for christmas.

A couple of questions:

1. what models are there (an internet search threw up too many to choose from), and which are the best?
2. Best place to buy from?
3. will he be guaranteed to retreat into his bedroom and not emerge for the next 4 years other than to eat, wash and go to school?

(helpful answers only please - I'm not trawling through who likes what game, showing off high scores etc)

thanks

Wideboy
01-11-09, 02:21 PM
1. premium - for price
2. any big retailer like pc world, play.com used to be the cheapest but pc world offer £1 a month insurance for any accident
3. yes

TSM
01-11-09, 02:21 PM
get a PS3 slim

CoolGirl
01-11-09, 02:33 PM
get a PS3 slim

Good point - we're only looking at xboxes as he's got a PS3 at his dad's and:
- he'll be able to have different games on his xbox to his PS3
- games won't disappear to his dad's house and not come back

SimJ
01-11-09, 02:49 PM
As Wideboy said Premium model is the one to go for, unless you can find an extremely good deal on the Elite model (more storage capacity). Ignore the Arcade version (no hard disk).

Irksy
01-11-09, 02:57 PM
Game are quite good at the moment as you can pay £20 for two years cover against any sort of defect or issue ie RROD oir E73/E74 error

zsv650
01-11-09, 03:02 PM
ask for the latest model they've got in stock to give yourself the full three years rrod cover microsoft's warranty run's by mfr date not purchase date as i found out.i'd go for the premium for the harddrive.

Swin
01-11-09, 03:14 PM
Arcade doesn't have a hard drive, but is cheap
Premium has a hard drive, but you don't get a wireless network connector
Elite also has a hard drive (I think it's larger than the premium but not sure) and has a wireless network connector. Oh, and it's black.

[edit]
At the time we bought our one, Argos was doing the best deal as we got a second controller and a couple of games for the same price that Curry's etc were selling it for.

sinbad
01-11-09, 03:54 PM
ask for the latest model they've got in stock to give yourself the full three years rrod cover microsoft's warranty run's by mfr date not purchase date as i found out.i'd go for the premium for the harddrive.

That covers any Xbox360 regardless of purchase or manufacture date, for 3 years. When they announced this extension (specifically for rrod as you say) they actually refunded any moneys that had previously been paid by owners for repair work.

BBadger
01-11-09, 04:10 PM
As your in london have a look at the pc world in fulham.
They are "re-opening" it and doing xbox premium and a free game or two for just over the £100 mark if i read the paper correctly.

fastdruid
01-11-09, 05:01 PM
I buy consoles from HMV, purely for the lack of grief if/when they have an issue, 2*xbox360's[0] & 2*PS2's replaced without question or problems, even when one of them was a console not bought from HMV and just failed because of something else bought from them[1].

Druid

[0] We were early adopters, had 3 swapped now... Newer ones are more reliable!
[1] PS2 rumble died due to a multi-tap bought from HMV, HMV refunded us for the multi-tap and swapped the (out of warranty and bought elsewhere) PS2.

zsv650
01-11-09, 05:06 PM
That covers any Xbox360 regardless of purchase or manufacture date, for 3 years. When they announced this extension (specifically for rrod as you say) they actually refunded any moneys that had previously been paid by owners for repair work.
yeah load of shiite i've got two of them broken both microsoft refused to replace one was a 07 console.

mr.anderson
01-11-09, 05:08 PM
I saw an elite advertised for £197 with extra controller and 4 games - will try remember who from.

BanditPat
01-11-09, 05:32 PM
yeah load of shiite i've got two of them broken both microsoft refused to replace one was a 07 console.


Extended warranty only applies for RRoD and E74 errors. PS3 stil has the Yellow light of death ad no extender warranty. Bet thing to do is to look around for a deal on last week they had the xbox premium on offer up here for 100 quid.

zsv650
01-11-09, 05:33 PM
and that's exactly what they had.

xXBADGERXx
01-11-09, 06:01 PM
Elite also has a wireless network connector.


No it doesn`t , you have to buy the wireless adaptor seperately for ALL 360`s

jans1971
01-11-09, 06:50 PM
I know you lot like your video games, so you might be able to give me some advice on buying an Xbox for a medium-sized child of my acquaintance for christmas.

A couple of questions:

1. what models are there (an internet search threw up too many to choose from), and which are the best?
2. Best place to buy from?
3. will he be guaranteed to retreat into his bedroom and not emerge for the next 4 years other than to eat, wash and go to school?

(helpful answers only please - I'm not trawling through who likes what game, showing off high scores etc)

thanks
1. ps3
2. game,gamestation
3.yes he will if he plays online , the ps3 is wifi ready so need to buy a adapter like you do for the xbox360

kitkat
01-11-09, 07:44 PM
my son has xbox 360 elite. he can play for days on it. He also goes on line with it. dont know any details really except he loves it, his pals love it and its the cheapest babysitter Ive ever had lol

Bri w
01-11-09, 07:48 PM
Teenage boy - Xbox won't make any difference to whether he washes or not.

He won't

hindle8907
02-11-09, 07:14 AM
if he is going to play online then get the 360.
I have both and the PS3 network is poor.
The whole xboxlive experience is far better i know you have to pay 40 quid a year but its well worth it imo.. ( and you carnt get gears of war or halo on the PS3)
The servers on the PS3 just Lagg out constantly.

I seen an eleite on play.com i think with 3 decent games for £199.99

Viney
02-11-09, 08:24 AM
Xbox Elite
Games are cheaper than the PS3
GEt it from Asda. Console, 2 controllers, 4 games for £195

barwel1992
02-11-09, 09:32 AM
get a gaming pc
more than one use cheeper in the long run
build it ure self (or one of us good foalk)

Swin
02-11-09, 09:35 AM
No it doesn`t , you have to buy the wireless adaptor seperately for ALL 360`s

I didn't know that - so you don't get an awful lot more for a so-called "elite" one then

plowsie
02-11-09, 09:43 AM
No it doesn`t , you have to buy the wireless adaptor seperately for ALL 360`s
LIES badger LIES, I got one with my Elite. The Elite comes with HDMI Cable already too, whereas the others don't IIRC.

I got my Elite for £250 with Tiger Woods 09 & Fight Night Round 4 and an extra controller from Currys.

Holdup
02-11-09, 10:09 AM
My elite didnt come with a wireless adapter i had to buy mine seperatly, but that was ages ago. The only benefit with the elite is 120gb HDD and better HD as far as im aware, but my TV doesnt support HDMI so i just use the standard cable, oh and its a better colour (i think thats the main reason i bought it :cool:)

I just looked on Tesco website they dont appear to have any good package deals but my god, their games are cheap :D

Preorder assains creed 2 rrp 49.99 Tesco 36.96 and free delivery!

Bluefish
02-11-09, 12:43 PM
get a gaming pc
more than one use cheeper in the long run
build it ure self (or one of us good foalk)

What spec would you need to play these games on a pc?,mine is a quad core300 gig can't remember rest, am away from the pc at the mo.
Was thinking of getting a game or two.

xXBADGERXx
02-11-09, 01:19 PM
LIES badger LIES, I got one with my Elite. The Elite comes with HDMI Cable already too, whereas the others don't IIRC.

I got my Elite for £250 with Tiger Woods 09 & Fight Night Round 4 and an extra controller from Currys.

Doesn`t matter what you say a STANDARD Elite package does NOT include the Wireless adaptor with it to enable a 360 to connect to a Wireless Router , it comes with an ethernet cable , a HDMI cable and a Wireless Pad and Black Headset . I have yet to even see one advertised with a free wireless adaptor . Maybe you had a special deal of some sorts but as a rule they do not come with one . I even double checked in case I had missed something , nothing from Play , Argos , Game or any of the usual suspects .

plowsie
02-11-09, 01:28 PM
Doesn`t matter what you say a STANDARD Elite package does NOT include the Wireless adaptor with it to enable a 360 to connect to a Wireless Router , it comes with an ethernet cable , a HDMI cable and a Wireless Pad and Black Headset . I have yet to even see one advertised with a free wireless adaptor . Maybe you had a special deal of some sorts but as a rule they do not come with one . I even double checked in case I had missed something , nothing from Play , Argos , Game or any of the usual suspects .
:smt019 :smt022:crutches:





\\:D/

xXBADGERXx
02-11-09, 01:28 PM
get a gaming pc
more than one use cheeper in the long run
build it ure self (or one of us good foalk)

So she asks for help to buy an Xbox for a child and you steam in with "Buy a Gaming PC" that is gonna cost nowhere near the £170 an Xbox would cost .

"I need a family car"
"Buy a Ferrari then"


:smt023

hindle8907
02-11-09, 01:31 PM
"I need a family car"
"Buy a Ferrari then"


:smt023


:winner:

SimJ
02-11-09, 07:15 PM
What spec would you need to play these games on a pc?,mine is a quad core300 gig can't remember rest, am away from the pc at the mo.
Was thinking of getting a game or two.

Any quad core cpu will be more than capable, it's the spec of your graphics card and how much ram you have that will determine performance.

TheOnlyNemesis
02-11-09, 07:19 PM
1. Models are Arcade or Elite-link-http://www.xbox.com/en-us/hardware/compare101.htm
2. I'd say online from sites like Zavvi, u can get it much cheaper
3. If he is anything like me, you won't know if he's still alive.

barwel1992
03-11-09, 01:13 AM
So she asks for help to buy an Xbox for a child and you steam in with "Buy a Gaming PC" that is gonna cost nowhere near the £170 an Xbox would cost .

"I need a family car"
"Buy a Ferrari then"


:smt023

yup because the 360 is pointles heap of cr*p that allways brakes and next year it will be out of date.... (note price starting to tumble fast) so i gave the more cost efective option more useful option that makes sence also have the ability to accomidate work(colage,high school) when he gets there, annnnndddd also you can upgrade one thing at a time that could cost as little as £20 to gain some perforamance increse

all i can see is win win win

ohh and the grafics are about 50% better

actual game footage ..
http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/crysis-2007.jpghttp://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/medium/2008/03/Stalker_Clear_Sky_2007.JPG
note the grass and those pics look bad (all good ones are at 1920x1200 rez)
http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2007/08/03/crysis-pc_52.jpg

fastdruid
03-11-09, 01:18 AM
yup because the 360 is pointles heap of cr*p that allways brakes and next year it will be out of date.... (note price starting to tumble fast) so i gave the more cost efective option more useful option that makes sence also have the ability to accomidate work(colage,high school) when he gets there, annnnndddd also you can upgrade one thing at a time that could cost as little as £20 to gain some perforamance increse

all i can see is win win win


Rather more than the cost of an xbox and the OP didn't ask what was 'best' but asked about a specific machine.

Druid

barwel1992
03-11-09, 01:20 AM
^^ true but i was advising against and giving a better alternative

BanditPat
03-11-09, 01:25 AM
Not really better IMO there never as fun PC's...

1. Xbox see if you can find a premium, depends on if you want to spend the extra money on an elite really. The HDD is a necessity IMHO.
2. Internet, Or have a look around to see if any where has a deal on would be your best bet and dont forget Morrisons they're usually not to bad if they have a deal on
3. You wont see him if he has online ;)

fastdruid
03-11-09, 01:44 AM
^^ true but i was advising against and giving a better alternative

IMO while a PC is undoubtably 'better', consoles "just work" and don't require ****ing about with settings, no worries about if your hardware is 'up' to it, games don't f**k up your machine in the name of anti-piracy and are less all round grief.

If you want to play games get a console, if you want the ultimate pretty graphics and high frame rates buy a PC but be prepared to pay for it, a very basic gaming PC will set you back twice what the xbox would cost. Hell a top end graphics card will set you back more than an xbox!

Druid

hindle8907
03-11-09, 07:18 AM
IMO while a PC is undoubtably 'better', consoles "just work" and don't require ****ing about with settings, no worries about if your hardware is 'up' to it, games don't f**k up your machine in the name of anti-piracy and are less all round grief.

If you want to play games get a console, if you want the ultimate pretty graphics and high frame rates buy a PC but be prepared to pay for it, a very basic gaming PC will set you back twice what the xbox would cost. Hell a top end graphics card will set you back more than an xbox!

Druid

+1
A mid range GFX card will set you back more than an xbox360 lol .

And then if you want 1080 gaming on your pc your going have to spend another 200 quid on a decent 1920x1080 LCD monitor

Xbox just plugs into your BIG LCD/plasma Tv.

plowsie
03-11-09, 09:20 AM
Barwell, your stating a PC. However, that is going to be almost double, possibly even treble the price when we talk HD (if that's what Coolgirl wants), decent graphics card needed, HD Monitor, making sure the requirements are up to scratch, so may need to upgrade RAM etc.

And to a young child a console is more appealing than a PC, once he gets a little older, the appeal of a PC may be greater.

Shona
03-11-09, 09:32 AM
Buy mine :smt023

It was taken out the box, used twice
and then my boyfriend moved in and replaced it with his.

So back in the box it went. ](*,)

zsv650
03-11-09, 05:02 PM
yup because the 360 is pointles heap of cr*p that allways brakes and next year it will be out of date.... (note price starting to tumble fast) so i gave the more cost efective option more useful option that makes sence also have the ability to accomidate work(colage,high school) when he gets there, annnnndddd also you can upgrade one thing at a time that could cost as little as £20 to gain some perforamance increse

all i can see is win win win

ohh and the grafics are about 50% better

actual game footage ..
http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/crysis-2007.jpghttp://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/medium/2008/03/Stalker_Clear_Sky_2007.JPG
note the grass and those pics look bad (all good ones are at 1920x1200 rez)
http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2007/08/03/crysis-pc_52.jpg looks only just a bit worse than uncharted 2 pcs are rubbish far too expensive to keep up to date and they will start getting bad ports of console titles with worse control systems lose lose.

hindle8907
03-11-09, 07:26 PM
above is true ... they have already started porting most PC games.

barwel1992
03-11-09, 07:37 PM
looks only just a bit worse than uncharted 2 pcs are rubbish far too expensive to keep up to date and they will start getting bad ports of console titles with worse control systems lose lose.

haha yeh cause it looks worse, ps i can guarente i could beat you usein a mouse and key board....

http://maxygames.no.sapo.pt/Crysis.jpg

even all my mates agree that this game beats any console on graphics.... and they are all 360 freeks

and how could the game you mentiond be better looking when it can run on a "8800gt GPU procesor" equivelent... and crysis (above) can only just run on max at 1920x1200 rez with 2 9800gtx+ and a 4.5ghz dual core with 1.2ghz ram. yes that is a top end rig but i am runing at stupid high rez. i can play this game on medium with a £25 gpu..

rant over

if geting a xbox 360 i would make sure you consider the membership fee as it can be quite costly :)

and im not denying it is more money to have a pc but you get a lot more functionality

fastdruid
03-11-09, 07:57 PM
if geting a xbox 360 i would make sure you consider the membership fee as it can be quite costly :)

Only if you want to play online. Which you don't have to do you know.

Druid

CoolGirl
03-11-09, 07:59 PM
So she asks for help to buy an Xbox for a child and you steam in with "Buy a Gaming PC" that is gonna cost nowhere near the £170 an Xbox would cost .

"I need a family car"
"Buy a Ferrari then"


Rather more than the cost of an xbox and the OP didn't ask what was 'best' but asked about a specific machine.

Druid


ah, gallant chaps defending my honour!

to be celar, we aren't on an unlimited budget here and my boy's only 13, not a 30 year-old geek. Besides, he can play with his friends if he has the same one as them (and we do have wifi so no problem there).

thanks for all the advice. It hink I'm going to shop around for an elite package if they're coming in at under £200.

metalhead19
03-11-09, 08:09 PM
Ye, sounds like a good option to choose. Check out the offer GAME are doing atm....elite console and 2 brand new games for £199. Friend of mine has elite console (i have regular) and his has never gone wrong at all.

fastdruid
03-11-09, 08:20 PM
Ye, sounds like a good option to choose. Check out the offer GAME are doing atm....elite console and 2 brand new games for £199. Friend of mine has elite console (i have regular) and his has never gone wrong at all.

Newer ones are *far* better than the originals, run quieter and are *FAR* more reliable, they rushed them out to beat Sony and reliability suffered.

Druid

metalhead19
03-11-09, 08:33 PM
Yeah i have to agree with you on that one. The older 360s where quite bad, ive had mine "fixed" once already.....and by fixed i mean replaced courtesy of micrsoft.

xXBADGERXx
03-11-09, 10:49 PM
thanks for all the advice. I think I'm going to shop around for an elite package if they're coming in at under £200.

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/~r344201/Xbox-360-Elite-Console-with-Pure-Lego-Batman-and-Controller/ (http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Hardware/Console/%7Er344201/Xbox-360-Elite-Console-with-Pure-Lego-Batman-and-Controller/)

The Lego games are great fun and will keep him amused for ages , Pure is a good game , tearing about on quad bikes at breakneck speed and performing stunts .

xXBADGERXx
03-11-09, 10:53 PM
And this deal looks interesting , you buy a 360 Elite from Amazon , and then click on any 2 games on that page and they will cost you £10 extra ..... grand total of £199 :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_82960773_1?ie=UTF8&tag=ec-21&docId=1000095443&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=special-offers-2&pf_rd_r=0WMASZGYQ65D8NAEN9QD&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=467100933&pf_rd_i=B000PD0HQE

Holdup
03-11-09, 11:00 PM
Think asda are doin the elite with 4 games for 179 quid! bargin!

barwel1992
04-11-09, 12:05 AM
well there we go no need for more arguing lol at least the OP has spoken and sead what she realy wants

ohh and ps im not a 30 year old geek im 17 lol and not a geek

fastdruid
04-11-09, 01:00 AM
well there we go no need for more arguing lol at least the OP has spoken and sead what she realy wants

I think that was post 1 ;-)

Druid

xXBADGERXx
04-11-09, 07:26 AM
<---- Starts "Geek Pointing"

plowsie
04-11-09, 09:10 AM
CoolGirl, there are are some really good package deals at the moment. If chappie is 13, Need for Speed Shift and Fifa 10 are included in a lot of deals.

Viney
04-11-09, 10:01 AM
So there you have it Debs, i hope you are sutibly confused and still none the wiser :lol:

BanditPat
04-11-09, 12:02 PM
well there we go no need for more arguing lol at least the OP has spoken and sead what she realy wants

ohh and ps im not a 30 year old geek im 17 lol and not a geek

By PC gaming you set your default to geek ;)

barwel1992
04-11-09, 02:00 PM
^ haha so do people that play xbox and ps3 , well at least the ones that play every day like some i know

zsv650
04-11-09, 05:00 PM
haha yeh cause it looks worse, ps i can guarente i could beat you usein a mouse and key board....

http://maxygames.no.sapo.pt/Crysis.jpg

even all my mates agree that this game beats any console on graphics.... and they are all 360 freeks

and how could the game you mentiond be better looking when it can run on a "8800gt GPU procesor" equivelent... and crysis (above) can only just run on max at 1920x1200 rez with 2 9800gtx+ and a 4.5ghz dual core with 1.2ghz ram. yes that is a top end rig but i am runing at stupid high rez. i can play this game on medium with a £25 gpu..

rant over

if geting a xbox 360 i would make sure you consider the membership fee as it can be quite costly :)

and im not denying it is more money to have a pc but you get a lot more functionality
i have seen crysis full res and it does not look like the above.:D

barwel1992
04-11-09, 05:07 PM
^ you may have seen it full rez but have you seen it with reallife mod and at verry high setting (all) on dx10 at 60fps ? if not thats why it dosent look like the above

metalangel
04-11-09, 05:08 PM
ZOMG LOOKIT TEH GRAFIX LOOK TEH GRAPHSC!!!!!111

Yeah, but the game's boring. :p

TheOnlyNemesis
04-11-09, 05:11 PM
ZOMG LOOKIT TEH GRAFIX LOOK TEH GRAPHSC!!!!!111

Yeah, but the game's boring. :p

Dam you angel, that's what i was gonna say, cause after you have finished beating off to the graphics, you'll think oh wait this game is boring, and the myth about k/b and mouse being better is not true, if someone like me who has used a pad all his life plays someone using a k/b and mouse it'll be ven cause i know how to use a pad.

metalangel
04-11-09, 05:16 PM
Heh, I say the same thing in those stupid console faceoffs they do on Eurogamer. Or more recently when they've compared Forza to Gran Turismo: When you're powersliding around a corner, trying to stay on the track, you opponent just ahead, two turns to go... you don't give a crap how many polygons are in his bumper.

Pad v mouse, meh. Played with a mouse for years, then pretty much jacked in PC games (too expensive keeping one up to date, patches a fuss, etc etc) and slowly learned to play FPSes on a pad. I only use my (ancient) PC for simulators and Transport Tycoon now.

barwel1992
04-11-09, 05:16 PM
^^ agreed both but the game can be fun just spaw with the nuke gun and have some fun ohh and unlimited ammo lol

and i totaly agree pads are better for racing but carnt stand them for first person shooter's.

any know if the ps3 is any good just for blue ray ? and maybe some games, any one else head about sony starting to charge for online soon ??

metalangel
04-11-09, 05:18 PM
It's a decent Bluray player, yes. And for games it's okay too, especially if you fit the extra plastic bits to your pad to make the L2 and R2 buttons proper triggers.

barwel1992
04-11-09, 05:20 PM
ohh right kwl just when i had a go on one the sound was a bit strange from the blue ray not sure if thats because its ment for 5.1 and was only through tv speakers

zsv650
04-11-09, 05:38 PM
you'll pay over £150 for just a decent blu ray player anyway so you may aswell plump the extra for the ps3 imo hopefully the videostore will come soon for rentals and purchase.

SimJ
04-11-09, 07:03 PM
Dam you angel, that's what i was gonna say, cause after you have finished beating off to the graphics, you'll think oh wait this game is boring, and the myth about k/b and mouse being better is not true, if someone like me who has used a pad all his life plays someone using a k/b and mouse it'll be ven cause i know how to use a pad.

If you're playing an fps a good k/b mouse player will batter a good gamepad player every time. It is no myth. A gamepad cannot hope to compete with the speed of movement that a mouse affords you. This would apply for an fps however.

CoolGirl
07-11-09, 09:46 AM
Thanks for all the replies. Just to let you know (and if anyone else is interested in buying one for their nerest and dearest), I follwed up some of your leads and the best offer was the Amazon one.

for the grand total of £199 you get

an elite console;
a game from quite a good choice;
another game from same offer of choices; and
a wireless Entertainment Pack - includes wireless Controller in Black and Two further Games - Pure and Lego Batman
however, the offer wasn't easy to find, so do use Bager's link.

thanks again

xXBADGERXx
07-11-09, 11:53 AM
Glad you got a good result there CoolGirl , sounded like an even better deal with the extra wireless pack too , I never saw that in the deal but just looked at it now and that`s pretty cool for free huh .

Rog
07-11-09, 04:43 PM
Remember the on costs with the Xbox

£199 new machine

assume 4 new titles a year at least at £50 a time (thanks Modern Warfare 2 for the price hike to come) so £200 a year add another £50 for Download content.

£40 a year for xbox. He will want it to play with mates (rumours going up to £60 next year then £80 year after)

Now sales are slowing expect a new Xbox next year or teh year after new costs £250 i think.

So in 2-3 years you will end up spending:

£1,500 soon adds up doesnt it !!!!!!


Top end PC in same time with upgrades and games some where around the £1000 mark.

dont get me wrong xbox will be good for waht he wants and he will want the same as his mates. I just wanted to point out that £1 for £1 PC gaming is generally actually a bit cheaper in the long run.

Swin
07-11-09, 05:07 PM
Assuming that Coolgirl is going to buy all these upgrades and consoles for "an acquaintances" child, then you might have a point...

If it's a one-off pressie and CG is just going to lob the odd game at the nipper, then it's job done :D

CoolGirl
07-11-09, 05:10 PM
Remember the on costs with the Xbox


Isn't that what christmasses, birthdays, uncles, aunties and pocket money are for?!

Swin
07-11-09, 05:14 PM
definitely! It makes it easier for us Uncles to choose something for nephews and nieces for Christmas!

sinbad
07-11-09, 06:17 PM
Remember the on costs with the Xbox

£199 new machine

assume 4 new titles a year at least at £50 a time (thanks Modern Warfare 2 for the price hike to come) so £200 a year add another £50 for Download content.

£40 a year for xbox. He will want it to play with mates (rumours going up to £60 next year then £80 year after)

Now sales are slowing expect a new Xbox next year or teh year after new costs £250 i think.

So in 2-3 years you will end up spending:

£1,500 soon adds up doesnt it !!!!!!


Top end PC in same time with upgrades and games some where around the £1000 mark.

dont get me wrong xbox will be good for waht he wants and he will want the same as his mates. I just wanted to point out that £1 for £1 PC gaming is generally actually a bit cheaper in the long run.

All very interesting but totally hypothetical. I could just as easily say you'll spend £300+ per year on graphics cards alone, and that you'll struggle to build a truly top-end pc for £1000, even if you already have a top notch monitor.

You spend what you want to spend. I paid £160 for my 360 with 4 games, another £35 for Live. Since then I've bought half a dozen games at an average cost of £15 each. There are lots of titles that can be picked up cheap, and even Forza 3 (the only new release I've bought) was "only" £35. I haven't bought a single thing from the Marketplace either.

It need not be expensive. Live subscriptions can be had for little more than £5 when bought with a new game for £40 or so.

TheOnlyNemesis
07-11-09, 06:31 PM
Get Xbox live subscriptions from ebay for around £22 not £40 from MS, get games from sites like zavvi thatare heavily discounted, don't buy half the crappy download stuff and you spend very little a year on xbox.

xXBADGERXx
07-11-09, 07:26 PM
That`s the biggest pile of Horse manure about Xbox I have ever seen written , They are not raising the cost of Live , they don`t need to and it would shoot themselves in the foot . Secondly , you can trade games in nowadays to save on costs , and thirdly you are factoring in the cost of the 3rd gen Xbox into that ?????? That`s a long way off and is reported to not even happen until around 2012 for an actual release .

£1000 for a top end gaming PC , and the rest , wake up and get real , factor in the costs of games for that as well and added on hardware , then the fact that the graphics card probably doesn`t cut it and "Mummy can I have a printer please" etc etc etc . I`d love to live in your world where top end PC`s are so cheap , the games are free without troubles and content costs nothing , and ALL types of games are available on it .

barwel1992
08-11-09, 03:55 AM
lol hear we go :D

the only thing i will say on the matter as i have had my go is a high end pc can be had for under £1000 ;) i know i have one that can max any game out on a 26 inch screen (can be a normal tv as well dosent have to be a monitor)

thats all im going to say because im fed up of arguing :D

xXBADGERXx
08-11-09, 04:21 AM
Yeah and you won`t be playing a bunch of games that the majority of your friends will be playing in school .

barwel1992
08-11-09, 04:48 AM
^ well you can just not on the same platform :( wish MS would alow multi platform gaming could be a bit unfair thogh but would be brill to play with mates that have are on xbox even if you arnt :D

Swin
08-11-09, 08:22 AM
For me it's Xbox and Wii - these are the kids machines to play games on.
3 x Laptops and my PC - networked for home work, letters (and me to play WoW on) :)

End of :)

TheOnlyNemesis
08-11-09, 10:52 AM
lol hear we go :D

the only thing i will say on the matter as i have had my go is a high end pc can be had for under £1000 ;) i know i have one that can max any game out on a 26 inch screen (can be a normal tv as well dosent have to be a monitor)

thats all im going to say because im fed up of arguing :D

next time i rebuild my machine, is it ok if i come to you cause if your right and you can really build your ultimate gaming machine for under a grand then your an extremely important person to know, you could save me £££'s.

For me it's Xbox and Wii - these are the kids machines to play games on.
3 x Laptops and my PC - networked for home work, letters (and me to play WoW on) :smile:

End of :smile:

haha, a fellow wow player.

Swin
08-11-09, 10:55 AM
4 x Level 80s on Shadowsong EU PVE :)

At least WoW doesn't need all this expensive malarkey!

TheOnlyNemesis
08-11-09, 10:57 AM
4 x Level 80s on Shadowsong EU PVE :)

At least WoW doesn't need all this expensive malarkey!

very true, it just requires your life :) if u want to do any good end game stuff, it slowly transforms you into a night dweller

plowsie
09-11-09, 09:32 AM
I've had my Xbox for 3 months and never had the lust to play against others online. Play a load of geeks who spend hours on games all day to show that they can play one level right and all that. Yeah yeah, whatever.

Glad you got one for a decent-ish price Coolgirl :)

xXBADGERXx
09-11-09, 05:58 PM
I've had my Xbox for 3 months and never had the lust to play against others online. Play a load of geeks who spend hours on games all day to show that they can play one level right and all that. Yeah yeah, whatever.

Glad you got one for a decent-ish price Coolgirl :)

I`ve spent 5 years or so on Xbox live and it is like that with strangers , or you can play with mates , some who have been friends of mine since I was first ever on there and met them in real life ........ sound familiar ? A bit like this place you may say . Some people you can`t stand , some you tolerate and some become firm friends .

A lot of the time I will play Co-operative games and quite often , in fact a lot of the time , I am saving my buddies Bacon from getting gunned down . Other times we race , and like in real racing , it`s all about beating the track ............. and making sure you beat those that stand in your way . And it is not a load of Geeks , it`s normal people who play the game for a few weeks and then trade them in with the rest of us for new games . Those that spend hours upon hours on the same game for years get left behind on the consoles , it`s really only the PC games that have that kind of longevity with games like World of Warcraft .

Oh and half the time me and my mates don`t realise we are playing games cos we just natter sh1te to each other as we are playing .....a bit like Idle Banter , anything is up for conversation and sometimes you hear/see something hilarious . It`s worth it in my eyes , especially in Winter months like this .

CoolGirl
07-01-10, 05:25 PM
Just thought I'd let you all know that the xbox was a huuuge hit - he hadn't taken it for granted that it was going to happen, even up until the last minute. We were on the bus the day before and he sighed, "Mum, it's going to take me aaaages to save up for one". I said that's what christmas and birthday money was for (I wasn't going to let on, was I?)

anyway, the look on his face when he opened it was priceless.:D

thanks for all the advice. Lego Batman is great - I want one of those ride-on BatCarpet-Cleaners :cool:

xXBADGERXx
07-01-10, 05:31 PM
Aaaaah . My work here is done :)

dizzyblonde
07-01-10, 05:32 PM
Lego Batman is really cool. So is Lego Indiana Jones. My lad has been silent all xmas..its been super :-)
I didn't know Peg had a PS2 at his house, so my son got that amongst his xmas gifts and he was well chuffed. Just got him Cars and Hot wheels racing games.....not heard a peep :-)

zsv650
07-01-10, 05:33 PM
lego star wars the original trilogy ftw.

dizzyblonde
07-01-10, 07:54 PM
We got that too.

Better still, as we adults have just found.....TT bike racing! Guess who's going heaad to head when the little man is at school ;-)