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Dicky Ticker
05-11-09, 06:27 PM
Would be interested in peoples views regarding the Phil Laing incident as a District Judge has adjourned sentencing for 2 weeks
Was it a drunken antic or defiling a war memorial?
Clearly a drunken antic, but send him away for a short period and make an example of him. Defiling war memorials/grave stones or anything in rememberance of the dead is unnacceptable in any circumstance.
Dave20046
05-11-09, 06:37 PM
Wondered if this'd pop up. fecking clown, he must have been aware of what he was doing. For anyone that's never been to barkers pool it's a memorial in the middle of a massive busy street, he didn't just stumble up an alley or through a gate and pee without looking it's the only thing for metres!
Heard the lad was at uni there.
Been chucked out now apparently.
Dave20046
05-11-09, 06:49 PM
He came from a private school in macclesfield or somewhere up to sheffield to do sports studies - don't think the uni have made there decision yet.
Graciepants
05-11-09, 06:53 PM
dont worry - he wasnt at sheffield uni, he was at hallam, (it explains a lot :P) but it says he is a student in todays paper, not that hes been asked to leave
also, looking at the picture, he's actually peeing on the poppies, it looks like a very deliberate drunken antic
Milky Bar Kid
05-11-09, 06:54 PM
This guy is a total clown. I can't think of much else constructive to say. He is an idiot that needs to be taught some respect.
You can't mistake a War memorial. If he'd just wanted to have a pee he'd have used an alleyway or a doorway, or even, God Forbid, a toilet. Deliberate act IMO.
Shame they no longer birch people!
fizzwheel
05-11-09, 07:01 PM
Looked like a deliberate act to me. When I've needed a pee on a night out after drinking to much I've found an alleyway or gone behind a tree or in a bush.
Peeing on a war memorial is the ultimate in disrespect IMHO.
DarrenSV650S
05-11-09, 07:02 PM
Jail would be way over the top I think
He knew exactly what he was doing, he thought he was a big man and did it infront of someone with a camera taking pictures yet he still didnt stop....
He obviously has no respect for anyone and therefore nobody should have respect for him.
I'd give him life in jail. That would deter others!
Dave20046
05-11-09, 07:04 PM
right on the poppys to, definitely aiming-bet he thought 'great, someone's taking a picture I can show all my dorky mates on facebook'. Which incidently kind of did happen, loads of his dorky mates were posting on his facebook wall 'legend','epic', and various other generic overused terms.
Speedy Claire
05-11-09, 07:12 PM
Totally disrespectful and mindless.......... he should be taken to the site of the DDay landings to be shown what those poppies represent.
Drunk or not he knew what he was doing and he deserves to lose his place at uni in my opinion as I feel our servicemen and women sacrified their lives to give him that place in uni and to build a better future for him and the likes of him.
He`s disgusting!
mkz9876
05-11-09, 07:16 PM
4 weekends out cleaning up after other idiots who cant seem to find a toilet to **** in would teach him a lesson i bet sure his mates would have more fun taing pics of that lol
I very much doubt that he did know what he was doing.
Also who ever took the photos was probably encouraging him to do it for the camera, only to then stitch him up for it.
****ing on a war memorial is a dispicable thing to do, I doubt he needs to be told that. The lesson he needs to learn is not that ****ing on war memorials is bad, but rather what too much drink can result in.
I don't wish to defend this stupid little boy who has gone off to uni to study a doss degree before he is old enough to look after himself without mummy, but I hate it when tabloid news tries to stir up an undue reaction over stories like this.
I very much doubt that he did know what he was doing.
Also who ever took the photos was probably encouraging him to do it for the camera, only to then stitch him up for it.
****ing on a war memorial is a dispicable thing to do, I doubt he needs to be told that. The lesson he needs to learn is not that ****ing on war memorials is bad, but rather what too much drink can result in.
I don't wish to defend this stupid little boy who has gone off to uni to study a doss degree before he is old enough to look after himself without mummy, but I hate it when tabloid news tries to stir up an undue reaction over stories like this.
Im sorry but I dont think this is an 'undue reaction'. These things need to be brought to the publics attention, its disgusting!
Ok, im only 23 and yes i do 'binge drink' at the weekend and rightfully so, I work hard during the week and at the weekends I like to enjoy them. I dont go out causing trouble in any way.
This ***** obviously cannot control himself when he has been drinking, he knows exactly what he is doing, we all do when we are in that state, if we remember it in the morning is another thing.
This will certainly have bought him down to earth now and made him a national joke.
Serves him right
madness
05-11-09, 07:49 PM
I think he knew what he was doing, but wasn't sober enough to judge that his actions where stupid and disrespectful. He probably never gives a thought to all those who have lost their lives. I doubt if they are taught about the great losses in the world wars at school anymore. I personally think that a whole schoolday (11th November would be good!) should be devoted to educating our youngsters about the horror of war and the sacrifices that where made and why it is important to remember and respect.
"Who threw that stone? C'mon, who threw the first one?"
The lad was an idiot. But I bet he knows just how much of an idiot he is now. Everyone in life deserves a 2nd chance.
I wonder how many of us have done something whilst under the influence we now really regret, and are deeply embarrassed about? And thank God we didn't get caught.
If the court reports show him to be a disfunctional muppet...fine, throw the big book at him.
But let's not demonise someone for a drunken prank, that now sober he may feel very remorseful for.
P.S. Am I being disrepectful? I know where I'll be, head bared, at 11am on Sunday
I think he knew what he was doing, but wasn't sober enough to judge that his actions where stupid and disrespectful. He probably never gives a thought to all those who have lost their lives. I doubt if they are taught about the great losses in the world wars at school anymore. I personally think that a whole schoolday (11th November would be good!) should be devoted to educating our youngsters about the horror of war and the sacrifices that where made and why it is important to remember and respect.
Very generous of you to assume the best in him, but my other half teaches modern studies, (read politics), in high school and believe me kids in general are taught the difference between right and wrong, and do know about WW1 and WW2, the sacrifices etc...
Numpty heed, pure and simple...
beabert
05-11-09, 08:10 PM
Alcohol again, i hate the stuff, the scourge of society.
Theres far worse things he could of done, ie beat someone up, kids are always messing about on these memorials, like the guy said the tabloids are trying to make is bigger than it needs to be again.
Yep he's a prat hit him in the wallet with huge fine and concentrate on the real problem.
Alcohol again.
Mmmmm, alcohol...=P~
Maybe he should be sentenced to a few hundred hours community service working at a rehabilitation centre for soldiers injured in Iraq and Afghanistan. Make him realise the sacrifies MEN of 19 are making.
DarrenSV650S
05-11-09, 08:35 PM
All you people that are saying "I think he knew what he was doing" or similar
How can you possibly know that???
I've done all sorts when I'm drunk that I have absolutely no clue about the next morning, and wouldn't of if nobody had told me.
Even if he was posing for the camera, that still doesn't mean he was fully aware of the seriousness of what he was doing
yes he has done wrong. he knows it after being named and shamed on the front page of national tabloids. but jail and kicked out of uni? really? people run around the street with knives, rob, vandalise get caught and get off with a slap on the wrist.
yes it is completely disrespectful to all those that fought in the war. but I think jail and ruining his potential future career is way over the top. community service or something I agree with but we all make mistakes!
Bluefish
05-11-09, 08:53 PM
Would be interested in peoples views regarding the Phil Laing incident as a District Judge has adjourned sentencing for 2 weeks
Was it a drunken antic or defiling a war memorial?
Both obviously, does that make it twice as bad?, yes in my book, bloke is a tosser.
Okay, my thoughts. We all get drunk from time to time, at some point in our lives, generally speaking. I've been there myself I can assure you. However, I can confidently say that never, ever would I have done such a thing as this idiot.
Personally, throw the book at him... but not the whole shelf. Some investigation should be given to the promoted student culture, the University must take some blame - these nights will be promoted on their premises and notice boards. But most of all, perhaps we need to question the organisation that promotes this kind of culture, for profit I'm sure, amongst our students.
Sure... University is about breaking into adulthood, living life, enjoying oneself and making new friends. But it is also about studying, learning and qualifying oneself for the next decades of life. It's not a holiday!
Call me a miserable old git... but I think the balance has been lost since Blair insisted everyone should go to University.
rick0361
05-11-09, 09:08 PM
Maybe he should be sentenced to a few hundred hours community service working at a rehabilitation centre for soldiers injured in Iraq and Afghanistan. Make him realise the sacrifies MEN of 19 are making.
That has to be one of the best comments I have seen on this - make him do something useful with his time. He;s studying sports - sport is a great way of rehab for injured people.
Simples!
He' still a stupid disrespectful **** tho'
Shoot the fu*ker just for the the hell of it, p*ss on that and a random act of violence is not just fun but justified
Specialone
05-11-09, 10:20 PM
Maybe he should be sentenced to a few hundred hours community service working at a rehabilitation centre for soldiers injured in Iraq and Afghanistan. Make him realise the sacrifies MEN of 19 are making.
+1 :smt023
The guys another word for a flipper !
Bluefish
05-11-09, 10:26 PM
The guys another word for a flipper !
Fin, don't get it.
madness
05-11-09, 10:27 PM
T*sser!
xXBADGERXx
05-11-09, 10:27 PM
Have him Larched to within an inch of his life .
Specialone
05-11-09, 10:44 PM
Fin, don't get it.
see below (as if you dont know;))
T*sser!
Perhaps the sentence should be to tie up this wanchor and have a dozen soldiers p1ss over him.
GeneticBubble
05-11-09, 10:54 PM
The org is an angry place :shock: and god forbid any of you are on the jury should i ever be convicted of anything :D
but yea a fine or community service would be sufficient in my opinion.
My sentance would be to enlist this pice of c~~p in to the services, train him up and send him off to fight in Afgan.
appollo1
05-11-09, 11:26 PM
My sentance would be to enlist this pice of c~~p in to the services, train him up and send him off to fight in Afgan.
why waste money training him - just send him there.
My sentance would be to enlist this pice of c~~p in to the services, train him up and send him off to fight in Afgan.
If that's a sentence, what have our soldiers done wrong?
He obviously meant to have a slash on the memorial.
The chance of him stumbling across a war memorial, and slashing on the poppies is minimal.
He meant to do it, it was induced by alcohol and quite possibly baiting by his 'friends'.
I have been in all states of drunk, but never could I do that. Disgrace, seems like you're usual student type, well off ********s, who are tossers.
I find my fair share everytime am out in Aberdeen.
yorkie_chris
05-11-09, 11:50 PM
I say chuck him into one of the marines bars in gibraltar when a ship is back from a tour. He might even survive!
Some investigation should be given to the promoted student culture, the University must take some blame - these nights will be promoted on their premises and notice boards.
Student unions boards most likely, somewhat different to the uni as a whole.
But anyway I disagree with you entirely. It matters not where he was drinking, he chose to get smashed and do this and it is NOONE elses fault. There are thousands of drunken students every night and nothing happens.
Blaming the university, as you suggest, diminishes the (already lacking) personal responsibility people must take, and devalues the crime.
yorkie_chris
05-11-09, 11:52 PM
I have been in all states of drunk, but never could I do that. Disgrace, seems like you're usual student type, well off ********s, who are tossers.
Careful who you're tarring with that brush there :-P
I'll have you know us engineering students know how to get sozzled with some respect!
By student types, you know what I mean.
I was a student, and still get sh*t faced(quite alot), but you must know the student types I mean.
When I was a student I had some morals, road signs were fair game but this, well, when I was a student I would have still kicked severn bells of **** out of em just because.
yorkie_chris
05-11-09, 11:58 PM
Aye I know the sort.
The stuck up, skinny jean wearing, alco pop drinking, scruffy, lightweight bar stewards..
Hope that made it a bit clearer... :)
Actually, that kinda describes me.. Minus the skinny jeans.. And hopefully not stuck up..
Would love to see a short prison sentence here to make an example, but highly unlikely
Would love to see a short prison sentence here to make an example, but highly unlikely
Well if I may I would like to add, maybe a gang rape and then an accident with the soap, followed by a small glass incident and the a fall from a high point, that then meets with a tight fitting wooden box :smt097
Graciepants
06-11-09, 12:32 AM
But anyway I disagree with you entirely. It matters not where he was drinking, he chose to get smashed and do this and it is NOONE elses fault. There are thousands of drunken students every night and nothing happens.
he has a point!
i go to sheffield uni (although the good one, not the sheffield hallam this guy goes to)
and *shock horror* i have been on the bar crawl this guy was on - for my 19th birthday i went on CARNAGE UK - i had a great night, but they run them about 4 times a year, 3 thousand students out in one go, and this hasnt happened before. its this guys fault, not the uni or the company that does it.
i went on the same bar crawl, to the same bars and ended up in the same club and you didnt see me peeing on a war memorial
I don't blame the uni or the club, people do what people do Gracie and an ars*hole is always an ars*hole and still deserves to be staked into the ground covered in jam for the antz to eat their head :-)
Dave20046
06-11-09, 10:32 AM
Agree with you chris, just because it's on a uni board doesn't mean they're suddenly responsible for the event, it wasn't even run by them. Responsibility lies with the ****.
he has a point!
i go to sheffield uni (although the good one, not the sheffield hallam this guy goes to)
and *shock horror* i have been on the bar crawl this guy was on - for my 19th birthday i went on CARNAGE UK - i had a great night, but they run them about 4 times a year, 3 thousand students out in one go, and this hasnt happened before. its this guys fault, not the uni or the company that does it.
i went on the same bar crawl, to the same bars and ended up in the same club and you didnt see me peeing on a war memorial
Never heard of the old pyjama jump?
I think that was banned, fair few students got kicked out too.
21QUEST
06-11-09, 11:01 AM
Haha, I'm loving how so many people always 'know what they are up to, no matter how drunk they are' ....what a load of cobblers :D
Jail would be over the top.
Cheers
Ben
21QUEST
06-11-09, 11:08 AM
When I was a student I had some morals, road signs were fair game but this, well, when I was a student I would have still kicked severn bells of **** out of em just because.
And you never thought, that could result in someone havign an accident? Personally I think kicking road signs is retarded act...drunk or not.
And yes, I've been known to have a drink or two. They also tell me, some people get violent went drunk. Something which I could never understand...as no matter how pished I've been, certainly didn't turn me that way.
I vote we ban the sale of alcohol...whayan say? ;)
Cheers
Ben
Owenski
06-11-09, 11:25 AM
Jail would be over the top, agreed.
A public humiliation would be about suitable considering his act. Crawling naked apart from wearing a saddle and been ridden like a horse by a chimpanzie. He should do this for a few hours around various different town centres.
I would like to see him jailed albeit for a short sentance but i guess it won't happen - he showed a complete lack of respect no excuse for it really and being drunk isnt an excuse
CheGuevara
06-11-09, 12:36 PM
Haven't read the whole thead, but I think the best punishment would be spending a solid week visiting with disabled veterans and widows of veterans. Then write a substantial essay on what he's learned to be published in the paper. Maybe he learns enough to then spend some time volunteering for a related cause...
Alternately (and only in a parallel world) he could be conscripted and sent off to serve on the front lines in Afghanistan for a year...
Haven't read the whole thead, but I think the best punishment would be spending a solid week visiting with disabled veterans and widows of veterans. Then write a substantial essay on what he's learned to be published in the paper. Maybe he learns enough to then spend some time volunteering for a related cause...
Alternately (and only in a parallel world) he could be conscripted and sent off to serve on the front lines in Afghanistan for a year...
either of them would be a good punishment maybe the first one tho unless he re-offends
Warthog
06-11-09, 02:42 PM
Send him to Helmand to go defend his own freedom then if he can't thank others for doing so.
Soldier depend on their "buddies" to cover their backs, who'd want him as a buddie.
Make him clear up city centre filth on the early hours of a sunday morning.
Send him to Helmand to go defend his own freedom then if he can't thank others for doing so.
Wise retribution
Thought this might have been updated by now.
He didnt go to jail, he was given 250 hours of communtiy service and ordered to pay £185 in costs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8380214.stm
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Thats a fair punishment considering the last disqual driver I nicked got less than that at court!
yorkie_chris
28-11-09, 06:35 PM
Send him to Helmand to go defend his own freedom then if he can't thank others for doing so.
That's laughable in itself.
Thought this might have been updated by now.
He didnt go to jail, he was given 250 hours of communtiy service and ordered to pay £185 in costs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8380214.stm
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Thats a fair punishment considering the last disqual driver I nicked got less than that at court!
I dunno mate, I'd say offending the publics sensibilities is a far lesser offence than driving banned. A mate of mine was near killed by a disqual driver, and I'd probably work that t**t over with a bat if I had chance!
yorkie_chris
28-11-09, 06:50 PM
Also I think it's a bad thing the university are "deciding on sanctions". If that were me and Leeds uni, hows about with the money I'm paying, they can keep their f***ing noses out of what I do anywhere except at uni.
Also I think it's a bad thing the university are "deciding on sanctions". If that were me and Leeds uni, hows about with the money I'm paying, they can keep their f***ing noses out of what I do anywhere except at uni.
The lad was a t*%t but has been punished.
What he did he did in his own time, not wearing a badge/uniform etc from Sheff uni... What an intolerant society/bunch of bankers at the uni.
Sorry for the rant but he's done the crime, and been punished by the relevant authorities. Let the lad rebuild his life, and if he screws up again take his legs off. Every one is allowed a 2nd chance in life.
yorkie_chris
28-11-09, 07:14 PM
And note it was a uni photographer who got him in the s*** in the first place!
Not that any of my mates have had to confiscate photographic equipment to avoid mither before...
Red Herring
28-11-09, 08:46 PM
You could argue that universities have reputations to protect. By bringing down that reputation he is in effect undermining all the hard work being done by his fellow students. Just my 2p worth...
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