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Not the best of Saturdays!..
Went out in Northampton with some mates. Not bad nite, til one of my mates got waaay to licked and thought it would be a plan to start on a group of 6 lads (my mates Indian and claimed they were being racist. Either way, booze + my mate + 6 lads = dangerous combo)
Next thing me and my other mate see is our ****ed mate on the floor being surrounded and kicked by the 6 guys. We both jump in there (not really in with much of a chance with 2 against 6 but better than just our mate against the 6).
We went in hard throwing some blows. Last thing I remember was getting choked from behind. Next thing I remember after that was getting up with blood pouring out my lip. Apparently I was out for a bit. When I woke up it had pretty much died down, cos i think there was a police van in the vicinity.
I think I must have been kicked whilst on the floor, cos have some leg bruises. And it kills to swallow (from the choke i suspect)! My lips a fatty tho and pretty lacerated.
Came home this morning. Told my mum my lips swollen cos I got hit with a frisbee. Then was chatting to my gf on the phone, and my mum eavesdropped, so she found out. Got lectured/bollocked/ blah blah blah.
Lol, my mum finding out is the worst part of the story for me:smt105
speedplay
08-11-09, 02:42 PM
Welcome to Northampton.
Just a thought though, theres cctv in town and its probably not a great idea to be shouting about fighting on an open forum ;)
The Hoodlums of today :rolleyes: :smt084
Exactly why decent folk don't bother going into town/city centres at the weekend and why some have become no-go areas.
You seem more ashamed that your mum found out than you are of the incident itself.
Sounds to me like you need to reassess who you go drinking with.
yorkie_chris
08-11-09, 03:05 PM
2 against 6, fair odds, go do some training and do better next time! :-P
Iīd like to think that this was a forum that didnīt like a post bragging about a fight they were in.
As there really doesnīt seem to be anything else of substance in your post this is how it reads.
Specialone
08-11-09, 03:10 PM
From my experience, when you wanna fight to ease some frustration or whatever, pick on smaller men or ladies with less friends, gives you a chance.;)
I know there can be exception to the rule with some fiesty little fookers, but its edging your bets, pick on 10 huge blokes or 10 small blokes, chances are in your favour with the small blokes, but can still be painfull.
My mate decided to start a fight on some big rugby lads in solihull town centre a few years back while we were out on the lash, its not nice :(
Phil
CoolGirl
08-11-09, 03:10 PM
.... We went in hard throwing some blows ....
and your point is? :roll: I'm not in the least bit impressed. In fact, it shames me that you're allowed to study at one of our universities.
kwak zzr
08-11-09, 03:10 PM
hey thulfi its good that you helped your mate even if it was 2 against 6, good on ya.
2 against 6, fair odds, go do some training and do better next time! :-p
pmsl
yorkie_chris
08-11-09, 03:13 PM
and your point is? :roll: I'm not in the least bit impressed. In fact, it shames me that you're allowed to study at one of our universities.
I think he's a tit for going out drinking with a mongchild who starts a fight with 6 blokes, but that's a bit harsh isn't it?
fizzwheel
08-11-09, 03:14 PM
til one of my mates got waaay to licked and thought it would be a plan to start on a group of 6 lads
Find some new mates...
speedplay
08-11-09, 03:15 PM
I think he's a tit for going out drinking with a mongchild
You cant say that, his mate will fire into you for being racist..:rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
08-11-09, 03:16 PM
Be right, I'll just tell him the rugby team in the pub down the road called him a t**t and watch him steam in. It be hilarious.
Specialone
08-11-09, 03:18 PM
Everybody does stupid things once in a while while drinking alcohol, your a liar if you say you dont.
Unfortunately if you're stupid to a group of blokes who have been drinking then their tolerance of you won't be great, hence a bit of a kicking.
You have to learn form your experiences, im sure the kicking this guys mate got will aid in his learning, he probably wont do it again.
sv-robo
08-11-09, 03:26 PM
. Not bad nite, til one of my mates got waaay to licked
whilst on the floor,. And it kills to swallow (from the choke i suspect)!
. Told my mum my lips swollen cos I got hit with a frisbee. :smt105
You my friend have some dodgy mates:p.......frisbee,??PMSL!!
lol quite a reaction.
Firstly, this is the first time it has happened. My mate never gets that rowdy, and I don't know who started it. 6 lads may have been racist to him, or may not have. But he was stupid and ****ed. The other 6 were also stupid and ****ed. Stuff like that happens.
But when your mates getting kicked in at 3am by 6 guys, your first reaction is to jump in there and help him. Who cares who started it, etc..fact is a mate is down and needs some help. And if he's getting kicked, clearly its beyond negotiations. I was more worried they would so some serious harm to him, so at least we kept some of them busy, even if it inevitably was going to be at our expense.
I don't start fights and I don't drink alcohol either. We had words with him today about his actions (standard he can't remember), but in 10yrs of friendship, he'd never put us in a situation like that, so this stuff happens...not gonna ditch a good friend over one incident.
Aaand some people need a serious chill pill on here...I sure wouldn't like to be mates with someone who watches on as i get kicked in by 6 lads, regardless of the reason as to why it started...
aaand "coolgirl"..im sure you're not impressed. I'm not trying to impress, it was merely a story of something that happened. Apparently people who help their downed mates out are not allowed to study at uni's? lol rite...Pretty absurd comment seeing as you don't really know me or my degree or ambitions or anything really!
the white rabbit
08-11-09, 03:33 PM
lips a fatty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fQnTyEniM
Now let that be a lesson to you.
Hope the kicking your mate got will help him remember not to steam into a bunch of drunken lads, dragging you into it as well - could have been a lot nastier than just a cut lip...
sv-robo
08-11-09, 03:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fQnTyEniM
Now let that be a lesson to you.
lol!!
Filipe M.
08-11-09, 03:38 PM
.Pretty absurd comment seeing as you don't really know me or my degree or ambitions or anything really!
Politics? :rolleyes:
Hope the kicking your mate got will help him remember not to steam into a bunch of drunken lads, dragging you into it as well - could have been a lot nastier than just a cut lip...
yeep agree there!..thats why its not about starting on anyone really. whose to know who might have a knife under their hoody or something...utterly pointless and potentially risky.
Hope he does learn, even though ironically me and my mate that jumped in are worse off than he is!
kwak zzr
08-11-09, 03:41 PM
lol quite a reaction.
But when your mates getting kicked in at 3am by 6 guys, your first reaction is to jump in there and help him.
my thoughts exactly, why flame the guy? i'm in the same thinking.
sv-robo
08-11-09, 03:45 PM
my thoughts exactly, why flame the guy? i'm in the same thinking.
At the end of the day i am too.......just like to take the p1ss thats all:clown:
yorkie_chris
08-11-09, 03:45 PM
my thoughts exactly, why flame the guy? i'm in the same thinking.
Oh anyone flaming has obviously never done anything of the sort, or even stepped into one of those horribly vulgar public houses dahling... :smt116
A Public House you say?
I shall ask my vintner this very evening what such a place could be...
my thoughts exactly, why flame the guy? i'm in the same thinking.
It was the way his post was written in the first place, it didnīt read that his mate got into trouble and he was helping him out, more that he got in a few "hard blows" and bragging about it.
He didnīt go into the fight to try and break it up to help his mate.
IMHO it read that he was proud to have been in a fight in the first place.
kwak zzr
08-11-09, 03:53 PM
arr i see where your coming from anna, i'm sure he was just helping and not bragging.
Spiderman
08-11-09, 03:55 PM
Ah the joys of too much alcohol and too much testosterone.
Live and learn yung un ;)
arr i see where your coming from anna, i'm sure he was just helping and not bragging.
I understand that the forum doesnt always give room for interpreting things well.
Sadly I read it one way, if it had been written,
"my stupid drunken mate got himself into a fight, sadly we got drawn into the cross fire and came off worse for it.."
It might have taken on a different meaning to me. The post read to me though..
"It was 6 against 2 and we survived ... but I also lied to my mom.."
Sorry if my interpretation of things isnīt accurate.
kwak zzr
08-11-09, 03:58 PM
lol :) i see where your coming from :)
it didnīt read that his mate got into trouble and he was helping him out
didn't it..are you sure??!
more that he got in a few "hard blows" and bragging about it.
where was the bragging exactly?
IMHO it read that he was proud to have been in a fight in the first place.
Not too sure how you concluded that I was proud!
Anyway, so the title of the thread is that I got KO'd! Not sure how exactly that's something to brag about seeing as getting KO'd is a bit of a flop!
Then I start my post with 'not the best of saturdays'. I then go on to explain the situation with my mate and paint the picture that he's downed being kicked in by 6 guys.
Saying 'we went in hard throwing some blows" was not supposed to be bragging. It's what happened, so I said it as it is. Breaking something up implies there is something to break up. Someone getting kicked whilst on the floor is not something you can break up because you know what these people are willing to do, so that's why me and my mate went in 'hard'! Sorry if that sounds like bragging, but its not supposed to.
Perhaps you should read posts a bit more carefully next time before posting yourself, instead of nit picking 1 line in my post that instantly seemed to make you think I was on here bragging about a fight!..
Geez whooda thought a post like this can be turned into a quit bragging about your fight type thread!
"It was 6 against 2 and we survived ... but I also lied to my mom.."
Yeeh i told a little fib to spare her the hurt of knowing her son got into a fight...why put that on her without any need to do so!
6 against 2 yes..Survived yes...things could have been worse, but getting knocked out isn't exactly something to brag about!
Spiderman
08-11-09, 04:13 PM
seems to be a fight about semantics and syntax now ;)
CoolGirl
08-11-09, 04:15 PM
Sorry, but your post read "my mate started a fight, I joined in, then I lied to my mum about it," bolstered by a comment about 'going in hard'. Hardly the most mature sentiment, hence my comment about your suitability for HE. And I certainly wasn't the first to comment on the perceived behaviour (funny how I got picked on...)
Anyway, what was it you felt the need to open a post about? Weren't you expecting people to have opinions or comment?
Indeed it does Ziggy.
I wasnt nit picking your thread, I was merely trying to explain to other members and yourself why it came across to me in this way.
There are always ways to explain what happened in an event.
I showed two ways in my previous post that explains how the same incident could have been written, and the two ways that they might have have different impacts on the reader.
I have already apologised if this my interpretation is inaccurate.:rolleyes:
Milky Bar Kid
08-11-09, 04:21 PM
Hmmm, I read the thread earlier but didn't post. I certainly didn't mis-interprete it.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but can you imagine the whoooollllleee world of trouble you guy would ALL have been in had the cops turned up? Or if one of those guys had a knife or a bottle or something?
Hell, you don't even need weapons to really hurt someone! I have seen guys with fractured skulls after one punch!!
But like I said, all hindsight. TBH, I would imagine most people would do the same in your situation.
Sorry, but your post read "my mate started a fight, I joined in, then I lied to my mum about it," bolstered by a comment about 'going in hard'. Hardly the most mature thing to do, hence my comment about your suitability for HE. And I certainly wasn't the first to comment on the perceived behaviour (funny how I got picked on...)
Anyway, what was it you felt the need to open a post about? Weren't you expecting people to have opinions or comment?
Urrm well my friend may have squared up like an idiot to a loada lads who may have said something to him, but I said the first thing we saw was my mate on the ground being kicked. So you're assuming my mate started the contact aspect of it.
If your mates being kicked in by 6 guys and you help him out, it aint the same as "our mate started a fight and we joined in"! Its a case of 'Oh, wtf, why's he down on the ground being kicked in, lets do something' - quite a difference!
So it wasn't mature helping my mate out? What you're saying is soo ridiculous I don't even know what to say to it.
Btw, u didn't answer my earlier question. Should I be chucked out of uni cos I helped a downed mate (bearing in mind that at that time we didn't know what had happened..all we saw was him getting kicked in)!...
I supposed I could've walked away and left him there...i mean i am in higher education after all right?!
CoolGirl
08-11-09, 04:26 PM
We went in hard throwing some blows.
sorry, but this isn't really conveying "we tried to help our friend by breaking it up". Perhaps you'd like to edit your OP if that was the case.
Spiderman
08-11-09, 04:27 PM
hehe, i learnt a long time ago to keep details of fights i may have gotten into off these here forums as non one really understands ... except for you, the people hitting you and the people you hit.
And anyway i know fighting is not big and not clever (but thank christ i know how to look after myself when the chips are down and there is nothing left and no where to run)
Indeed it does Ziggy.
I wasnt nit picking your thread, I was merely trying to explain to other members and yourself why it came across to me in this way.
There are always ways to explain what happened in an event.
I showed two ways in my previous post that explains how the same incident could have been written, and the two ways that they might have have different impacts on the reader.
I have already apologised if this my interpretation is inaccurate.:rolleyes:
fair do's, but english was never my strongest subject...and it certainly wasn't intended to be a bragging post. Situations like these is one of the main reasons i dont touch alcohol, and like i wrote in a later post, it could have been worse - luckily it wasn't!
If i can break up a fight before having to act i would gladly take that option, but in this case that wasn't possible i guess!
ArtyLady
08-11-09, 04:29 PM
I read it as - his mate stupidly started a fight with the wrong people but was outnumbered, so OP and his mates waded into help. I'm not condoning violence, but I'm sure most people would do the same...wouldn't they? or would they just stand by? Now there's another subject for discussion altogether ;)
sorry, but this isn't really conveying "we tried to help our friend by breaking it up". Perhaps you'd like to edit your OP if that was the case.
lool we could go on forever..I already explained my use of words in a later post.
iI read it as - his mate stupidly started a fight with the wrong people but was outnumbered, so OP and his mates waded into help.
Whoo!:) That's exactly what I was trying to convey. Good to see some people can see the whole story from start to finish instead of nit picking a line or two and immediately thinkng that I'm here to brag about a fight!
ArtyLady
08-11-09, 04:36 PM
I suppose the moral is, don't go out with mates who lose all sense when they get p1ssed, and avoid town centres full of drunks!
PS I hope you got yourself medically checked out if you got knocked out?
thedonal
08-11-09, 04:39 PM
Everyone's a critic! (that's an observation btw- this is the internet, after all!!)
Glad you didin't come out of it any worse! A big lesson for your mate then!
A drummer in my old band got p!ssed up once and decided to start on the bouncers at a local nightclub (Volts). Swiftly earned himself a moderate kicking. Some people...! I think, at the next rehearsal when we heard the story, we all just said "you idiot!" in that affectionate way that mates do!
hehe, i learnt a long time ago to keep details of fights i may have gotten into off these here forums as non one really understands ... except for you, the people hitting you and the people you hit.
yeep think ive learnt that one. not easy to replicate a situation, and even if you do a lot of people dont seem to wanna hear about it...Almost as if all people who have ever got into fights are all stupid!
Anyways, starting fights is definetely stupid/risky/pointless etc - no ones gonna deny that!
Kate Moss
08-11-09, 04:49 PM
I'm a laaaady, but I would have jumped in and helped a mate.
So, how long has your mum grounded you for!?
21QUEST
08-11-09, 04:49 PM
Everyone's a critic! (that's an observation btw- this is the internet, after all!!)
Glad you didin't come out of it any worse! A big lesson for your mate then!
A drummer in my old band got p!ssed up once and decided to start on the bouncers at a local nightclub (Volts). Swiftly earned himself a moderate kicking. Some people...! I think, at the next rehearsal when we heard the story, we all just said "you idiot!" in that affectionate way that mates do!
:thumbsup:
That is all :D
Cheers
Ben
Spiderman
08-11-09, 04:50 PM
yeh i just tell em face to face about it and if they dont like what i have to say then we can always just have a fight over it :lol:
FWIW i think you did what any of us would do and that was try to save your mate getting a serious kicking...weather he deserved it or not is a different matter.
i ran into a crowd of guys once, bellowing at the top of my voice "alright, enough...let me give this ( insert many racist expletives) a proper kicking outside", reached into the crowd and dragged the guy up by his hair and out thru the front door with a large baying mob following us out.
Stood him up straight, looked him in the eye and screamed "RUN Charlie, RUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!" as i dragged him off up the road with me.
We hid in a shop's metal wheelie bin round the next corner, it stank and Charlie bled on me a lot but i got him out of a jam. I only knew Charlie by face and name cos he was a friends older brother but a pub full of hooligans on one person aint exactly a fair fight is it?
And the 7 stitches i got in my lip was cos i stood up to some bloke who was gonna hit a girl and i told him that if he was that hard as to beat up a girl then maybe he should try me out for size.
1 punch later, there i am on the floor needing stitches :lol: Ah well, again, at least i did the right thing by her.
Milky Bar Kid
08-11-09, 04:54 PM
yeh i just tell em face to face about it and if they dont like what i have to say then we can always just have a fight over it :lol:
FWIW i think you did what any of us would do and that was try to save your mate getting a serious kicking...weather he deserved it or not is a different matter.
i ran into a crowd of guys once, bellowing at the top of my voice "alright, enough...let me give this ( insert many racist expletives) a proper kicking outside", reached into the crowd and dragged the guy up by his hair and out thru the front door with a large baying mob following us out.
Stood him up straight, looked him in the eye and screamed "RUN Charlie, RUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!" as i dragged him off up the road with me.
We hid in a shop's metal wheelie bin round the next corner, it stank and Charlie bled on me a lot but i got him out of a jam. I only knew Charlie by face and name cos he was a friends older brother but a pub full of hooligans on one person aint exactly a fair fight is it?
And the 7 stitches i got in my lip was cos i stood up to some bloke who was gonna hit a girl and i told him that if he was that hard as to beat up a girl then maybe he should try me out for size.
1 punch later, there i am on the floor needing stitches :lol: Ah well, again, at least i did the right thing by her.
Spidey, you is my hero!!! :grin:
Owenski
08-11-09, 04:56 PM
your mate was a tool! but you were a good mate.
Well done you, now get your mate told.
Spiderman
08-11-09, 05:07 PM
Spidey, you is my hero!!! :grin:
What for standing up to a bully and getting my teeth smacked in? Hardly heroic is it?
Bet that stuck up git Batman would never admit to such a thing but hey i'm only human and i sure as hell aint the hardest guy on the block.
Oh and he did have lots of rings on his fingers too. Lesson learnt....if you're gonna offer a guy to hit you
a; quickly check his fingers for rings
b; duck
c; even if he aint wearing rings...duck.
:eye:
Biker Biggles
08-11-09, 05:08 PM
Been there done that,older and wiser now.:)
FWIW I cant see that you did anything wrong given the situation your mate got you in.The trick is to avoid letting it happen by sorting your mate out before he gets out of order with an army of thugs.;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6fQnTyEniM
Now let that be a lesson to you.
Haha, Dougie (Buster) is a friend of mine... still gigging regularly too.
21QUEST
08-11-09, 05:16 PM
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Whoo!:) That's exactly what I was trying to convey. Good to see some people can see the whole story from start to finish instead of nit picking a line or two and immediately thinkng that I'm here to brag about a fight!
Personally, I didn't think you were bragging, at all .
I've been in a situation where I had to pull an idiot of a mate away from what had the potential to turn really bad.
I was just lucky that the group of blokes, for some reason listened to me as I told him what a 'so and so' he was and dragged him off.
Funnily enough, I stopped going out with said mate...and told him to sod off... after he had a few too many another time and did a similar thing.
My idea of a good night out doesn't involve fighting and can't stand people who have a drink and become stupid.
Cheers
Ben
Specialone
08-11-09, 05:38 PM
What for standing up to a bully and getting my teeth smacked in? Hardly heroic is it?
Bet that stuck up git Batman would never admit to such a thing but hey i'm only human and i sure as hell aint the hardest guy on the block.
Oh and he did have lots of rings on his fingers too. Lesson learnt....if you're gonna offer a guy to hit you
a; quickly check his fingers for rings
b; duck
c; even if he aint wearing rings...duck.
:eye:
Well Spidey, your still my favourite super hero after jessica albas character in fantastic four.:p
All the scraps i have had in my adult life have been as a result of someone else, except when playing sunday football when i used to lose my fooking mind for some reason.
I avoid trouble generally because there is always someone more talented, aggressive, voilent etc who will always go too far and could be end more serious than a cut lip or whatever.
Thulfi, i'm on your side here dude, you helped your mate when he needed it unconditionally, that takes balls.
You have had words with your mate about it, that should be the end of it.
Phil
Quiff Wichard
08-11-09, 06:02 PM
I saw a bloke being beaten up last week .. there were 4 of them and one of him.. so I went over to help..
between the 5 of us we really kicked his head in..
a joke-
but fightin is not funny.. defending your mate is honourable.. but .. well.. me old now so I try and walk away , shouting "he's not worth it - he'snot worth it"
Spiderman
08-11-09, 06:29 PM
Well Spidey, your still my favourite super hero after jessica albas character in fantastic four.:p
Yeh, i'd rather have her than have me too. Eh, wait?!??!? Does that even make any sense?
timwilky
08-11-09, 07:13 PM
As someone still struggling to breath properly after being attacked in a boozer, I have to say I am not impressed by those who throw that first unwarranted punch. I used to think I could handle myself well enough until I found out that some people fight dirty. I then remembered the old adage of do unto others as they would do unto you. But do it first. My mistake in remembering far too late.
There is nothing big or clever about pub fighting. It is bloody dangerous. I am waiting to go to court to give evidence against the guy who attacked me. My brother is currently bailed for GBH after landing on top of the guy who tried to pull him down a flight of stairs in a boozer. We were both victims of pub violence fortunately in my case the guy who hit me was arrested, in my brothers case they guys who attacked him are giving evidence against him.
There are no winners in pub scraps. I have learned one valuable lesson. When trouble breaks out, leave by the back door.
I have learned one valuable lesson. Drink at home on Friday and Saturday nights. And choose your mates carefully.
Corrected for you. And yeah, I know that's two lessons :lol:
To the OP, you were right to help your mate. Most peeps on here would have done the same. But if he does it again then avoid him when alcohol is on the menu.
Oh, and don't pick on Coolgirl. She's tougher than you ;-)
Right, off to open a bottle (or two) of wine as I don't have to go to work tomorrow :-D
Specialone
08-11-09, 08:09 PM
Yeh, i'd rather have her than have me too. Eh, wait?!??!? Does that even make any sense?
Strangely it does to me lol
Hmmm Jessica Alba...Wipes dribble from corner of open mouth
yorkie_chris
08-11-09, 09:48 PM
hence my comment about your suitability for HE. And I certainly wasn't the first to comment on the perceived behaviour (funny how I got picked on...)
Anyway, what was it you felt the need to open a post about? Weren't you expecting people to have opinions or comment?
Lol I think your opinion of the caliber of higher education in general is an overestimate!
missyburd
08-11-09, 10:14 PM
A friend is a friend at the end of the day. You saw a friend in danger and did the right thing in helping him out. I wouldn't encourage fighting in any way shape or form but if some other lowlives see it fit to start on someone and that someone is outnumbered then of course you're not going to sit by as a friend and watch him be bludgeoned within an inch of his life :rolleyes:
Let's just hope this so called friend would do the same if you were ever in a similar situation, "a friend in need is a friend indeed" and all that. By the sounds of it you need to rethink who you go out with as a mate as I'm afraid this fella sounds like a right plantpot.
skeetly
08-11-09, 11:45 PM
Ew. Friends and beer.
Sometime during the last century when people wore funny clothes and drank weak beer I got my friends into hospital.
The three of us were very drunk indeed and still drinking in me mates kitchen.
I decided I had had enough and was going to see my girlfriend up the road who shared a house with a couple of other girls. Off I trundle, bouncing off hedges and weaving down the pavement. Now, me mates decide that I'm in no fit state to walk off down the road.
Despite the fact that they were in exactly the same state they decided they would try and get me back to the house where I would be safe.
Witnesses describe two drunk people trying to catch up with another drunk person and it sounded hilarious.
I was a good 20 yards ahead and turned up my girlfriends garden path. I knocked the door and got no reply. No wonder as it was very late at night/early in the morning.
Twas a bungalow so I walked round to the back and knocked on the bedroom window and no one answered. Disheartened I flopped down behind the garden shed and went to sleep/passed out.
Meanwhile my mates finally make it to my grilfriends house and cant find me anywhere. While wandering around in the road wondering where I was they were put in hospital by two headbangers with base ball bats.
I woke up hours later; freezing cold as it got light. I got up and realised I was at the wrong house and walked a couple of door further up and went to my girlfriends.
Lessons I learnt?
Dont drink home made apricot spirits after getting hammered.
Dont force yourd runk friends to have to come looking for you.
Dont go knocking on the windows of the local base ball bat wielding headbangers causing them to go out looking for you and find yer mates :)
Milky Bar Kid
08-11-09, 11:48 PM
Ew. Friends and beer.
Sometime during the last century when people wore funny clothes and drank weak beer I got my friends into hospital.
The three of us were very drunk indeed and still drinking in me mates kitchen.
I decided I had had enough and was going to see my girlfriend up the road who shared a house with a couple of other girls. Off I trundle, bouncing off hedges and weaving down the pavement. Now, me mates decide that I'm in no fit state to walk off down the road.
Despite the fact that they were in exactly the same state they decided they would try and get me back to the house where I would be safe.
Witnesses describe two drunk people trying to catch up with another drunk person and it sounded hilarious.
I was a good 20 yards ahead and turned up my girlfriends garden path. I knocked the door and got no reply. No wonder as it was very late at night/early in the morning.
Twas a bungalow so I walked round to the back and knocked on the bedroom window and no one answered. Disheartened I flopped down behind the garden shed and went to sleep/passed out.
Meanwhile my mates finally make it to my grilfriends house and cant find me anywhere. While wandering around in the road wondering where I was they were put in hospital by two headbangers with base ball bats.
I woke up hours later; freezing cold as it got light. I got up and realised I was at the wrong house and walked a couple of door further up and went to my girlfriends.
Lessons I learnt?
Dont drink home made apricot spirits after getting hammered.
Dont force yourd runk friends to have to come looking for you.
Dont go knocking on the windows of the local base ball bat wielding headbangers causing them to go out looking for you and find yer mates :)
Is that a true story? Bloody hell! What a scrape to get yourselves into! Great story...although not great for your pals at the time!
Thulfi - you're a medic, aren't you? But I'm not sure that that makes any difference...
There are some aspects of your report that I find difficult but on balance no I wouldn't convict... especially if the original stuff was racially motivated...
If someone started beating me up I'd hope that my mates would help me out.
skeetly
09-11-09, 12:08 AM
Is that a true story? Bloody hell! What a scrape to get yourselves into! Great story...although not great for your pals at the time!
:D It is.
There's more to it as well, but that part is pretty boring and involves the law.
That part's the funniest ;)
BanditPat
09-11-09, 02:22 AM
I got KO'd one time I know how you feel mate. A bin KO'd me though...at least I took down some one with me.....
yorkie_chris
09-11-09, 09:40 AM
Thulfi - you're a medic, aren't you? But I'm not sure that that makes any difference...
There are some aspects of your report that I find difficult but on balance no I wouldn't convict... especially if the original stuff was racially motivated...
If someone started beating me up I'd hope that my mates would help me out.
In that line of work (or any where your job needs an enhanced CRB check), NEVER accept a caution from old bill. Get legal advise.
plowsie
09-11-09, 10:25 AM
Can't beat a good old scrap in town, until you end up in the back of a van with flashing blue lights.
Owenski
09-11-09, 12:24 PM
Can't beat a good old scrap in town, until you end up in the back of a van with flashing blue lights.
If you hadnt have nicked thier blue lights, then you prob wouldnt have ended up in the back of the van ;)
speedplay
09-11-09, 12:33 PM
If you hadnt have nicked thier blue lights, then you prob wouldnt have ended up in the back of the van ;)
I know someone who got done for that.
It was years ago when they had the single blue light on top of their escorts...
Was dead funny seeing him run over the car and boot it off though!
Thulfi - you're a medic, aren't you? But I'm not sure that that makes any difference...
There are some aspects of your report that I find difficult but on balance no I wouldn't convict... especially if the original stuff was racially motivated...
If someone started beating me up I'd hope that my mates would help me out.
yeeh i am a medic - not that it makes any difference. if anything, i knew the danger of someone getting their head kicked in...maybe the law doesn't cover my actions, but i would like to think most people would do the same!...
incidentally, i don't like fighting (probably why i got ko'd and flopped it, lol)...defo not about having a blip on your record when youve been studying for 5 years...thats why I stay clear of drinks and severe drunkards!
Now if my mate was in a 1 V 1 fight i would get in there and try and split it up...but 6 v 1 mullering on the floor = not right!
incidentally..for any coppers/law people here...whats the lawful thing to do in a situation like this??
Milky Bar Kid
09-11-09, 04:04 PM
Call the police. Seriouslty, if we came across and incident like that, more than likely everyone would get scooped. Not necessarily prosecuted but you would probably get scooped at the time until it was investiated.
ArtyLady
09-11-09, 04:43 PM
Call the police. Seriouslty, if we came across and incident like that, more than likely everyone would get scooped. Not necessarily prosecuted but you would probably get scooped at the time until it was investiated.
Yeah but what about the possibility of by the time the police getting there it might have been too late?
speedplay
09-11-09, 04:54 PM
Yeah but what about the possibility of by the time the police getting there it might have been too late?
In Northampton?
Big chance of them being late.
I've seen a copper sitting in a car, blue lights on the go looking through a map book of Northampton...
Milky Bar Kid
09-11-09, 07:08 PM
Yeah but what about the possibility of by the time the police getting there it might have been too late?
He asked "legally" what should he have done. Legally, that is what he should have done.
Spiderman
09-11-09, 07:25 PM
But surley he also had a legal right to step in and stop an offence being committed and rescue his friend.
Correct me if i'm but dont we all have a legal duty and responsibility to do the right thing? The right thing here being to defend his friend from the beating he was getting...self defence by proxy.
Dave20046
09-11-09, 07:29 PM
likely everyone would get scooped. Not necessarily prosecuted but you would probably get scooped at the time until it was investiated.
It's true, but why is that by the way mbk? Would be really fecking irritating, I narrowly escaped the scenario once.
Milky Bar Kid
09-11-09, 07:32 PM
As I said, he would have been scooped until it was investigated. If it was found that he had acted purely in defence of his friend and had not committed an offence then he would, certainly here, been released without charge.
E.g. Last weekend I as backshift on the Saturday night. Turn up at a disturbance to see two guys rolling about on the floor. Both restrained and taken to station. Review of evidence and CCTV shows that although both were "rolling" about on the ground, one guy did nothing wrong at all. The other guy had smacked him several times and they both fell to the ground. Guy number 1 (good guy) then took the bad guy in a head lock to stop him hitting him anymore.
Clearly self defence and he used reasonable restraint as such, released without charge. Other guy held in custody to appear infront of Sheriff on Monday morning.
Milky Bar Kid
09-11-09, 07:33 PM
It's true, but why is that by the way mbk? Would be really fecking irritating, I narrowly escaped the scenario once.
Because we don't know who has done what when we arrive at a situation like that. All we see is a group of people fighting and we don't know who is the aggressor or the victim so both have to come in til enquiries are made/cctv reviewed.
CoolGirl
09-11-09, 07:42 PM
oooh, is this one still going?
Thulfi - I'm glad we understood each other in the end (although why other people feel the need to throw random insults at me is a mystery). I was wondering today, you must have got a nasty knock to the noggin. I hope you got yourself checked out - you must know only too well how these things can cause other issues.
CoolGirl
09-11-09, 07:47 PM
Oh, and don't pick on Coolgirl. She's tougher than you ;-)
thank you, my dear, well pointed out.
Lol I think your opinion of the caliber of higher education in general is an overestimate!
I think you'll find it's spelt 'calibre' in English.
I'm off now to do some more studying for my masters. Then I'll go to work tomorrow and pick up what I've got to do on the new higher education framework.
So, I think we've all learned a valuable lesson from the various tales posted in this thread...
DUCK.
:cool:
oooh, Spidey... 'but thank christ i know how to look after myself when the chips are down and there is nothing left and no where to run'... Big Trouble in Little China? :grin:
Spiderman
09-11-09, 08:12 PM
oooh, Spidey... 'but thank christ i know how to look after myself when the chips are down and there is nothing left and no where to run'... Big Trouble in Little China? :grin:
Spunds like it could be right out of a movie dont it? I just made it up :)
Spunds like it could be right out of a movie dont it? I just made it up :)
:lol:
Ahah, my bad:
'When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail." '
and
'Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."'
Spiderman
09-11-09, 08:19 PM
:lol:
Quality!
yorkie_chris
09-11-09, 11:18 PM
I think you'll find it's spelt 'calibre' in English.
See, point proven :smt098
He asked "legally" what should he have done. Legally, that is what he should have done.
There is a legal right to use "reasonable force" to prevent injury to someone else or to yourself. Obviously your mate getting bits kicked off him counts as a real and present danger to his safety so basically anything goes. So long as you don't say to the police afterward "lolz pwnt, plz dnt tell me mam".
You are even allowed in law to preemptively strike someone if you can later argue that you had no other option. (of course what actually happened has little to do with it)
Best bet if it ever comes to violence, if it is unavoidable, is to get it out of the way rapidly and then get yourself out of the way even more rapidly before the police arrive.
oooh, is this one still going?
Thulfi - I'm glad we understood each other in the end (although why other people feel the need to throw random insults at me is a mystery). I was wondering today, you must have got a nasty knock to the noggin. I hope you got yourself checked out - you must know only too well how these things can cause other issues.
lool, surprised it is still going on. yeeh good job we didnt end up in a fight coolgirl (lol/kiddin)..my heads ok, but ive got looads of little cuts in my mouth (one for the dentists) from when apparently they must have been doing my mouth in when i was on the floor...im a fatty, but eating is a real pain now and it sucks!
Reassuring to hear about the legal stance of this situation. You can see why the police would take everybody in, as how are they to know otherwise?...Happy it didnt come to that!...
Incidentally, if police arrive at a scene where a guy has been Ko'd (and still is) by say 3 guys, would they wait til the KO'd dude recovers then take him in, or would they bring in an ambulance then take him in,or would they not even take him in at all??
I guess the only plus to getting Ko'd on a sat nite is that i slept like a baby on Sun nite, as I was so out of it the whole of sunday, lol!...but yeeh on the whole concussions are usually no biggy...hopefully!!
Milky Bar Kid
10-11-09, 09:35 AM
See, point proven :smt098
There is a legal right to use "reasonable force" to prevent injury to someone else or to yourself. Obviously your mate getting bits kicked off him counts as a real and present danger to his safety so basically anything goes. So long as you don't say to the police afterward "lolz pwnt, plz dnt tell me mam".
You are even allowed in law to preemptively strike someone if you can later argue that you had no other option. (of course what actually happened has little to do with it)
Best bet if it ever comes to violence, if it is unavoidable, is to get it out of the way rapidly and then get yourself out of the way even more rapidly before the police arrive.
Yeah, but I was making the point that if the Police had turned up they would have been huckled. I am WELL aware of the law.
yorkie_chris
10-11-09, 09:48 AM
You are well aware of the law yet you said he should legally have stood by and called the police :-P
Milky Bar Kid
10-11-09, 09:49 AM
Yep. He should have. Or one of them should have.
Dave20046
10-11-09, 09:52 AM
. yeeh good job we didnt end up in a fight coolgirl
She only would have come on here bragging:p
yorkie_chris
10-11-09, 09:52 AM
And wait probably 40 minutes for them to finish their coffee while their mate gets kicked to death?
Anyway, where is law that says you must call the police immediately if there is danger to someone?
Dave20046
10-11-09, 09:54 AM
And wait probably 40 minutes for them to finish their coffee while their mate gets kicked to death?
That's not true they do sacrifice their food and drinks to attend calls ASAP....have you seen the clip of the cops in a squad car eating curry then they get a call so the driver nails it and the passenger cop flys out the door with his curry in the middle of the road?
Milky Bar Kid
10-11-09, 09:57 AM
There we go! Lets start slagging the Police again.
He asked for a coppers opinion. I have given him it. I also said that if all he was doing was defending himself and his friend that he would have been released without charge once the evidence is reviewed.
But yeah, I only deal with these things 50 hours a week, with 2 years training and exams. What do I know?
yorkie_chris
10-11-09, 10:03 AM
No offence meant at all but I don't actually care what anyone does for a living on here. And I certainly won't let such minor details get in the way of a good arguement :-P
Reason I am making the point is you said he should legally call the police. Implying that to do anything else would be breaking the law... which is clearly boswallox.
Dave20046
10-11-09, 10:04 AM
hmph, I was sticking up for the cops
Milky Bar Kid
10-11-09, 10:05 AM
Dave I hadn't seen your post when I posted!
YC - if you had read my posts, I also said that although he would have been scooped, once CCTV had been reviewed and everyone had been interviewed etc, then he would have been released. Where in that does it imply that he has broken the law?
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