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_Stretchie_
10-11-09, 11:00 AM
Just got Sky+ HD put in yesterday and it's cool.

Watched Attenborough's 'Life' last night in HD and just WOW, what a clear picture and the detail was amazing.

It was like we were there looking through a window at what was being filmed.

Blu Ray next I think :grin:

Holdup
10-11-09, 11:07 AM
You really noticed?

We recently got HD and i couldnt see much of a difference, i was flicking between saw 5 the other night on regular sky movies and sky movies HD and i noticed very little difference, although sky movies HD did look that little bit clearer, not as fuzzy, but then again im short sighted so that may not help :p

wyrdness
10-11-09, 11:14 AM
You really noticed?

We recently got HD and i couldnt see much of a difference, i was flicking between saw 5 the other night on regular sky movies and sky movies HD and i noticed very little difference, although sky movies HD did look that little bit clearer, not as fuzzy, but then again im short sighted so that may not help :p

It might be your eyesight, as I can see a considerable difference between SD and HD. I've noticed that HD channels look better, even when viewed on a crappy 14" portable CRT TV, as HD channels have higher bandwidth and better colour reproduction.

_Stretchie_
10-11-09, 11:14 AM
I'm initially sceptical off things that were filmed normally and enhanced to HD (just an off the cuff comment, I have no idea how Saw 5 was filmed) as opposed to actually filmed with HD cameras but I cannot comment yet as only had it for less than a day.

But yeah, picture was awesome.

Daft question, but have you got it connected via a HDMI lead? And in the seetings have you got the output set up to HD?

Had a little thumb though the book last night and I think there were three setting foir the output.

530 for normal TV
720 for HD
1080 for HD.

We've got it set to 1080. Have a butchers when you get home.

Luckypants
10-11-09, 11:15 AM
BBC HD has much higher production values than many other 'HD' channels. The BBC will only broadcast in HD if 90% or more of the program was actually filmed in HD, whereas the others may upscale SD programs for the HD channels. BBC wildlife programs in HD are amazing quality. I find that modern films that were shot in HD are better quality than an older film when watching in HD.

I'm looking at Blu-Ray now as well Stretchie, but too tight to spend the required readies!

fizzwheel
10-11-09, 11:17 AM
The BBC HD Channel is where you really notice the difference over normal TV.

I agree with Luckypants the HD Wildlife progs on BBC HD are amazing.

Holdup
10-11-09, 11:20 AM
Daft question, but have you got it connected via a HDMI lead? And in the seetings have you got the output set up to HD?

530 for normal TV
720 for HD
1080 for HD.

We've got it set to 1080. Have a butchers when you get home.

Yea ours goes through HDMI lead as well, ill have a little look at that in a mo

Lucas
10-11-09, 11:20 AM
aren't they rolling out Freeview HD next year?

_Stretchie_
10-11-09, 11:20 AM
I'm looking at Blu-Ray now as well Stretchie, but too tight to spend the required readies!

Me too really, we were thinking about going halves in and getting a nice Blu Ray as our christmas pressie to each other, but might be getting a PC with a Blu Ray player instead now for the front room as our home PC and Chezzahs laptop have adopted a 'work when you want' scheme.. And they don't want to!!

So a little PC like this:

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&~ck=mn

Would cover all the bases




** EDIT **

Oh and it's all Fizzwheel and Diamond's fault we have it, they showed it to us at their's when we went to batter their puppies

wyrdness
10-11-09, 11:22 AM
BBC HD has much higher production values than many other 'HD' channels. The BBC will only broadcast in HD if 90% or more of the program was actually filmed in HD, whereas the others may upscale SD programs for the HD channels. BBC wildlife programs in HD are amazing quality. I find that modern films that were shot in HD are better quality than an older film when watching in HD.

I've heard that Sky are clamping down on other broadcasters who use their HD channels for non-HD content. It makes sense, as if people are paying for HD channels, then they want HD content. Most things are being filmed in HD these days, so you should see less upscaled SD stuff. Even older films are still higher resolution than standard telly.

Holdup
10-11-09, 11:23 AM
It might be your eyesight, as I can see a considerable difference between SD and HD. I've noticed that HD channels look better, even when viewed on a crappy 14" portable CRT TV, as HD channels have higher bandwidth and better colour reproduction.

Probably is to be fair, i never wear my glasses as although im menat to i dont feel i need them that much yet as i passed both my driving test and bike test with no problems and only really used to struggle with reading the board at school etc

lily
10-11-09, 11:25 AM
Me too really, we were thinking about going halves in and getting a nice Blu Ray as our christmas pressie to each other, but might be getting a PC with a Blu Ray player instead now for the front room as our home PC and Chezzahs laptop have adopted a 'work when you want' scheme.. And they don't want to!!

So a little PC like this:

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-hybrid?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&~ck=mn

Would cover all the bases


you going to get that in the pink? ;)

_Stretchie_
10-11-09, 11:27 AM
Of course...

Jabba
10-11-09, 12:18 PM
we went to batter their puppies

Sounds like quite a kinky private life you have there, mate. But hey, whatever turns you on..... :thumbsup:

zsv650
10-11-09, 12:29 PM
aren't they rolling out Freeview HD next year?
i hope so that'd be great.

Kinvig
10-11-09, 12:37 PM
aren't they rolling out Freeview HD next year?

I heard that it was bein rolled out at the end of 2009 up north (Manchester/Leeds/Glasgow) and London.

But am I right in assuming that I'll need a new freeview box despite having one integrated into my hd-ready tv?

kwak zzr
10-11-09, 12:42 PM
SKY are offering the HD box free now if i subscribe to a years worth of SKY MOVIES, i am still too tight to have it tho.

Lucas
10-11-09, 12:44 PM
I heard that it was bein rolled out at the end of 2009 up north (Manchester/Leeds/Glasgow) and London.

But am I right in assuming that I'll need a new freeview box despite having one integrated into my hd-ready tv?

It has to be a 'freeview HD' box. I think so far only Panasonic has built in Freeview HD receivers into their latest TVs, most other has the standard Freeview.

Ping
10-11-09, 12:47 PM
I luff my HD tv. I went for a 42" lcd 1080p... it was the most startlingly crisp picture of all the tv's in the shop. I watched Glastonbury for the first time on it and wished I hadn't... could clearly see Lily Allen's 5o'clock pit-shadow... also not TOO enamoured with seeing people's facial pores... but I got over it. :lol:

Only prob now is I want a bigger one. :lol:

Enjoy it while you can, before it becomes 'the norm' and you start roving around for bigger and better. ;)

Jabba
10-11-09, 12:57 PM
Only prob now is I want a bigger one. :lol:

Cue the miss-quotes and witty comments......

Quiff Wichard
10-11-09, 01:56 PM
Just got Sky+ HD put in yesterday and it's cool.

Watched Attenborough's 'Life' last night in HD and just WOW, what a clear picture and the detail was amazing.

It was like we were there looking through a window at what was being filmed.

Blu Ray next I think :grin:


me is often hiding , looking through a window at what is being filmed.. :-dd

_Stretchie_
10-11-09, 01:59 PM
As with your avatar, dogging doesn't count

; )

Ping
10-11-09, 08:27 PM
Cue the miss-quotes and witty comments......
Tee hee hee! Looks like you were the only one that went there though. :p


Ooh, another bonus... Rugby Union in big screen HD...
Z.O.M.G.
:smt060

Milky Bar Kid
10-11-09, 08:33 PM
Pah, should have got the Xbox for me to play on.....never helping you bully Chezzah again Stretch.

Kinvig
10-11-09, 09:54 PM
Cue the miss-quotes and witty comments......

I saw it and *almost* posted...then I realised that the cost of incuring The Wrath Of Ping probably would outweigh any benefits of a cheap, yet so funny, laugh at her expense!

Ping
10-11-09, 10:15 PM
I saw it and *almost* posted...then I realised that the cost of incuring The Wrath Of Ping probably would outweigh any benefits of a cheap, yet so funny, laugh at her expense!
Pffft... no-one's THAT scared of me. :p

Spiderman
10-11-09, 11:29 PM
We've gone HD...

Jeezuz, i thought you guys were beautiful enough before and now i get to see you in glorious HD? Wow.

Where do i tune in to?

barwel1992
11-11-09, 01:48 AM
carnt wait for hd freeview i have a hd box built in to my t260hd but as mines a monitor suports over hd rez (1920x1200 vs 1920x1080) but not on tv only pc

BanannaMan
11-11-09, 06:11 AM
I'm so relieved this thread is about tv.

From the title I thought he'd gone completely mad and got a Harley Davidson. :smt119

_Stretchie_
11-11-09, 09:23 AM
I'm so relieved this thread is about tv.

From the title I thought he'd gone completely mad and got a Harley Davidson. :smt119

I'd go as far as Buell but not fully HD in that sense ; )

Professor
11-11-09, 09:29 AM
The difference between normal digital TV and HD is most striking
when watching sports, say, football or tennis. Unfortunately, I
can't afford the sports package so I rarely get the opportunity to
watch sports in HD. Sometimes football or tennis come up on BBC HD
or Eurosport HD (these are part of the basic HD package).

Quiff Wichard
11-11-09, 09:30 AM
Asda doin a blue ray player for 99 squids

Professor
11-11-09, 09:57 AM
I decided not to go for Blue-ray for the time being because currently, to my
knowledge, there are no broadcasts in Blue-ray format.

Luckypants
11-11-09, 10:14 AM
I decided not to go for Blue-ray for the time being because currently, to my
knowledge, there are no broadcasts in Blue-ray format.

Blu-ray is a high def (HD) DVD format, so you get to watch films in HD. So no, Blu-ray won't be broadcast.


Or did I miss a blu-ray / HD joke there? :-dd

Professor
11-11-09, 10:48 AM
My understanding is that the hope is that eventually Blue-ray will
be broadcast, only at the moment it is technically difficult.

Lucas
11-11-09, 11:05 AM
they are getting there, just need to fine tune the ray colour and downsize the optic cable :D

http://www.nerf-herders-anonymous.net/images/ANH_DeathStarControllers_LaserShaft2.jpg

_Stretchie_
11-11-09, 01:38 PM
But everyone knows that blue is the fastest and highest quality

Jabba
11-11-09, 01:42 PM
But everyone knows that blue is the fastest and highest quality

Aye... and therein lies the problem.

They have to make the blue cables longer than the red and green ones to make sure that the light arrives at its destination at the same time.

The problem is further compounded by distance from source to receiver. Where long additional distances are involved they have to factor in refuelling time :thumbsup:

_Stretchie_
11-11-09, 01:44 PM
You saying mine is longer than yours??


; )

Jabba
11-11-09, 02:01 PM
You saying mine is longer than yours??

Last time I saw yours it was blue.

_Stretchie_
11-11-09, 02:13 PM
It was cold!!!

wyrdness
11-11-09, 02:15 PM
My understanding is that the hope is that eventually Blue-ray will
be broadcast, only at the moment it is technically difficult.

I think that you may be misinformed.

Blu-ray is a physical disk format for high definition video. Blu-ray is capable of 1080p, which is 1080 lines of progressive scan video. At the moment HD broadcasts are in 1080i, which is transmitted as two fields of 540 lines. A deinterlacing chip in the set-top box or the TV will convert this back into 1080p.

What this means is that in theory, Blu-ray is slightly higher quality than HD broadcasts, though you're unlikely to notice a lot of difference.

Professor
11-11-09, 06:51 PM
I think that you may be misinformed.

Blu-ray is a physical disk format for high definition video. Blu-ray is capable of 1080p, which is 1080 lines of progressive scan video. At the moment HD broadcasts are in 1080i, which is transmitted as two fields of 540 lines. A deinterlacing chip in the set-top box or the TV will convert this back into 1080p.

What this means is that in theory, Blu-ray is slightly higher quality than HD broadcasts, though you're unlikely to notice a lot of difference.

Yes, but I think the long term plan is to broadcast directly in 1080p. But
I may be wrong, I am not a specialist.

gruntygiggles
11-11-09, 07:47 PM
Pfft...too much technical stuff here for me.

All I know is it looks flippin amazing and yes...the BBC HD channels are probably the best. Also, the Nat Geo HD channels are pretty darn good!