The nation of.....Sealand

[Dave20046]

http://www.redsave.com/images/sealand/sealand02.jpg
:smt044
Was half cut at my mates a few nights ago and conversation lead on to this, I thought he was winding me up! Just got round to googling it now.

Am I the only one who had never heard about Sea land? Can't help but find it fascinating/hilarious.

http://www.sealandgov.org/About.html

And the reason we got onto the topic; piratebay (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/12/pirate_bay_buys_island/).

They even have their own stamps, coins,passports and royal family!

[Wideboy]

i put the same thread up a while ago mate, i thought it was a whined up aswell

was owned/run by some old radio presenter or something...... i did my research lol

[Dave20046]

i put the same thread up a while ago mate, i thought it was a whined up aswell

was owned/run by some old radio presenter or something...... i did my research lol
Oops pardon the hitler.

I want to visit!

[Wideboy]

it was burnt down, last i herd it was being refurbed, the legs go right to the sea bed and that where the living quarters are

[Sally]

Is that sealand in the picture?

[Dicky Ticker]

I have sailed a 34ft yacht between these pillars and although it isn't that impressive in the picture it is massive when you are in a small boat.

I will add it was a very calm day when I did it

[Wideboy]

I have sailed a 34ft yacht between these pillars and although it isn't that impressive in the picture it is massive when you are in a small boat.

I will add it was a very calm day when I did it

:eek: you invaded?

[TazDaz]

This is mad...never heard of it before, but the bit about the germans/dutch trying to invade etc sounds like an action film!

[Dicky Ticker]

No they still have guns on there.Look at the size of the one in the picture --and it works

[Wideboy]

i wonder what would happen if you actually invaded

[Dave20046]

i wonder what would happen if you actually invaded
Well the germans/dutch did and he somehow took them out and imprisoned them. In fairness it might be worth a pop it's worth £60m+ according to that article.

it was burnt down, last i herd it was being refurbed, the legs go right to the sea bed and that where the living quarters are
ahh I see thought they'd just be concrete or something that's good.
Read about the fire just now, it was in the news 2006


Sally - yeah that's it pictured

[maviczap]

I can see it from my beach, it's for real.

There was once a ban on taking any surplies to it from the UK

[ravingdavis]

The guy that owns it sounds like a bit of a plonker, I wouldnt cry too hard if the Navy torpedoed the platform.

[Wideboy]

i say we invade, org-land

[BanannaMan]

i say we invade, org-land


Er....No thanks....
The rideouts there are way too short.

[maviczap]

i say we invade, org-land

I wouldn't as he has a shotgun fro repelling invaders

As for suggestions of the Navy torpedoing it, well it ain't gonna work

The structures have been there since the war, a couple of dinky torpedos arn't going to replicate 50+ years of North sea wave action, the're hardly going to scratch the surface.

Plus they're round, so torpedos going to deflect off in another direction :p

[kwak zzr]

your sv would corrode badly riding round that platform.

[Supervox]

I have sailed a 34ft yacht between these pillars and although it isn't that impressive in the picture it is massive when you are in a small boat.

I will add it was a very calm day when I did it

It must hav ealso been on one of the 'king's' good days !! I remember back in the 80's when I sailed with the Ocean Youth Club, this loony taking a potshot at our boat with his shotgun - from long range thankfully.

[beabert]

So we can shoot him back then, ill take his piers out lol

[maviczap]

So we can shoot him back then, ill take his piers out lol

He has 2 distinct advatages, a a fixed platform to shoot from and a height advantage.

Maybe a night assault using limpet mines and mini subs would work :p

Plus we've used this method before and it's proven........ :rolleyes: Sunk the Turpitz

[DanAbnormal]

Torpedo's would make short work of that structure. I say let's do it!

[maviczap]

Torpedo's would make short work of that structure. I say let's do it!

No they wouldn't :rolleyes: otherwise they wouldn't have invented the bouncing bombs to destroy the German dams in the last war, they would have used torpedos :rolleyes:

[ravingdavis]

No they wouldn't :rolleyes: otherwise they wouldn't have invented the bouncing bombs to destroy the German dams in the last war, they would have used torpedos :rolleyes:

Fine. Get the Navy to nuke it then, theyve got these big expensive submarines that have never shot at anything yet, target practice for a Trident.

[keith_d]

No they wouldn't :rolleyes: otherwise they wouldn't have invented the bouncing bombs to destroy the German dams in the last war, they would have used torpedos :rolleyes:

The dams were protected by torpedo nets, that's why the bombs had to bounce.

[maviczap]

The dams were protected by torpedo nets, that's why the bombs had to bounce.

But also the needed the bombs to sink near the bottom of the wall and then explode, too create the shock wave which destroyed the wall, not the explosion. Which is why torpedos wouldn't work on these beauties

[keith_d]

Torpedo's would make short work of that structure. I say let's do it!

Hmm. Modern torpedoes are designed to detonate underneath a ship and break it's back so that it sinks as fast as possible. Not too useful against a pair of concrete pillars which are already resting on the sea bed.

Best bet is a bunch of divers and an effing big demolition charge.

[maviczap]

Fine. Get the Navy to nuke it then, theyve got these big expensive submarines that have never shot at anything yet, target practice for a Trident.

As I live nearby I can't agree to this :p

I can't see what the fuss is about, it's a harmless state that doesn't bother anyone, unless they get too close. Just leave em be

Sending a Trident missle is a bit extreme for half a dozen people who don't have access to a nuclear arsenal ;)

[Swin]

I wouldn't call one of these "dinky"...

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Spearfish_torpedo

[Foey]

Years ago i used to go with a girl that worked on a fish stall at Old Felixstowe & the guy that owns Sealand used to visit there every so often,l i remember her telling me he had his own currency & stamps etc.

I believe he tried to start selling duty free tobacco & spirits there a few years ago, that was soon stamped on though.

[Warthog]

Wow, sea-pikeys.

[Well Oiled]

"the island suffered a devastating fire which destroyed much of the country's administrative centre"
- his desk got burnt

"and the main power generation facility which serves its population and industries."
- His Honda 50cc generator got burnt

"Fortunately, back-up systems exist which permit its activities to continue"
- He has a battery

[maviczap]

I wouldn't call one of these "dinky"...

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Spearfish_torpedo

Its only a 660lb warhead, the rest is fuel & mechanicals :rolleyes:

[Swin]

"only" 660lb warhead :rolleyes::rolleyes: travelling at 90-odd miles per hour, that's going to ruin someones day...

ps. Keithd - They aren't just designed for proximity explosions, they can be programmed to explode on contact too

Still, I'd rather just ignore them than blow them up for being sea-pikeys :D (love that expression)

[ophic]

Forget the torpedos, I don't think it'd remain habitable for long after a few rounds from one of HM's destroyers.

How do you get on and off Sealand? Is it helicopter access only?

[arenalife]

The guy is a tool, he shot and killed a 'trespasser' back in the day but jurisdiction for a trial could never be decided. The RN don't want to know as it's not a ship (tho it was floated in position) and other agencies say it's a wreck and aren't interested so they guy just sort of sits there with it.

The Red Sands forts are far spookier...

[Swin]

Forget the torpedos, I don't think it'd remain habitable for long after a few rounds from one of HM's destroyers.

How do you get on and off Sealand? Is it helicopter access only?

I think there was mention of a ferry on his website somewhere

[Warthog]

I think there was mention of a ferry on his website somewhere

I had a browse around, they use a RIB and have a winch to haul it up to the platform.

[Warthog]

"only" 660lb warhead :rolleyes::rolleyes: travelling at 90-odd miles per hour, that's going to ruin someones day...

ps. Keithd - They aren't just designed for proximity explosions, they can be programmed to explode on contact too

Still, I'd rather just ignore them than blow them up for being sea-pikeys :D (love that expression)

Paging Stingo!

[boot]

Wasn't the initial idea of declaring the island it's own principality, purposefully to evade tax?

Sounds like a plan to me.

[maviczap]

Latest Sealand news - hot off the press

http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content/eveningstar/news/story.aspx?brand=ESTOnline&category=News&tBrand=ESTOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=IPED18%20Nov%202009%2023%3A48%3A45%3A130

[Kinvig]

Where can I get a vaild Sealand passport...that would be recognised in, say, Mongolia?

I'm kinda tempted to be a lord....and not a gaylord*!









*before anyone makes that joke!

[Dave20046]

I think 'Lord 20046' suits me :chef:, cheers for the update maviczap
Where can I get a vaild Sealand passport...that would be recognised in, say, Mongolia?

I'm kinda tempted to be a lord....and not a gaylord*!









*anymore

[yorkie_chris]

Hmm. Modern torpedoes are designed to detonate underneath a ship and break it's back so that it sinks as fast as possible. Not too useful against a pair of concrete pillars which are already resting on the sea bed.

Best bet is a bunch of divers and an effing big demolition charge.

Why blow it up? Assault and install some servers somehow, all the Nigerian fraudsters would be queuing up to buy email accounts from you.

Ok probably not, but it would be an entertaining evening.

[ophic]

Why blow it up? Assault and install some servers somehow, all the Nigerian fraudsters would be queuing up to buy email accounts from you.

Ok probably not, but it would be an entertaining evening.
I think he's already got a load of servers in there - that's the main profit from it.

[Dave20046]

I think he's already got a load of servers in there - that's the main profit from it.
yep, I'm sure in theory though anyone (with a lot of money) could just build a micronation somewhere?

[Graciepants]

this is the most amazing thing i've ever heard!!!

[ravingdavis]

I think he's already got a load of servers in there - that's the main profit from it.

Surely he isn't really best placed for a server farm, he cant exactly have fast access to the Internet out in the middle of the sea.

[ophic]

Surely he isn't really best placed for a server farm, he cant exactly have fast access to the Internet out in the middle of the sea.
America is also in the middle of the sea. Britain too for that matter.

[ravingdavis]

America is also in the middle of the sea. Britain too for that matter.

Yes but Sealand doesnt have the demand to have high speed fibre leading to it like the island of GB and uh USA.

http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/p/2006/020306cablemap_550x300.gif

[ophic]

easy enough to drop a cable in the sea or use satellite connectivity. Jersey and Guernsey manage.
btw awesome diagram there.

[Dave20046]

Yes but Sealand doesnt have the demand to have high speed fibre leading to it like the island of GB and uh USA.

http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/p/2006/020306cablemap_550x300.gif
It's only 3 miles out from the uk

[Wideboy]

Lord widepants of sealand....i like it

[Dave20046]

Lord widepants of sealand....i like it
I might copy them, 'New Sea-land' Then steal new zealand's post :smt065

[Wideboy]

gavland? Wideland? widepantsland?

[Dave20046]

gavland? Wideland? widepantsland?
DAVEland!
First a telly channel, next a *nation!





*micro

[Bibio]

wooohooo Sealand is exactly the same age as me....

This paved the way for occupation. On 2 September 1967 :drink: . one more bit of useless information for the pub...:D

[Wideboy]

DAVEland!
First a telly channel, next a *nation!





*micro

nah do many arsewhipes called dave.. might aswell name it idiot-land