chicken strips.

[barwel1992]

ok so when i got the bike it had a big flat spot in the middle of the tire the tires were prety new at the time and had big chicken strips but since i have had the bike have reduced them to prety/verry small ones well on the back any way(need to check the front) .

now the thing is i feel as thogh im still verry far away from getting my knee down i do have fairly(verry) chunky legs and carnt stick my leg out at a 90o angle from the bike un like some people not sure if its part of the problem, i am shifting over and geting my head in line with the mirror on the corner side (if you get me) so wat could i be doing wrong :/.

ohh and i havent had my pegs or foot on the floor yet but i do ride toes on pegs but thorght i would be prety close to the peg at least

hears my rear tire as you can see small chicken strip but as i say no touchdown with my knee :( EDIT, the front has the same amount on it as the back :/ ps i do feel like im prety damn low

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo16/barwell1992/P1040085.jpg

[injury_ian]

Chicken strip is no indication of how well you are riding.

Also depends on tyre profile, Michelin PR2's I know for a fact never reach the edge.

P.S- There is more to life than knee down.

[metalangel]

P.S- There is more to life than knee down.

Yeah - elbow down!

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/633814459257787000valentino-rossi-catalunya-03.jpg

[injury_ian]

thats cheating, the kerb is raised!

He may as well be rubbing his elbow on a vertical wall!

[Scoobs]

Michelin PR2's I know for a fact never reach the edge.

Mine did.

[barwel1992]

lol at elbow down, and i know theres more to life than kneedown, but i do want to get on a track next year and would like to be able to do it befor then, obv not in this weather but when it dry's up a bit.

[Scoobs]

I've never got my knee down and I don't think I have any bother keeping up with most people I have ridden with.

Few exceptions hey Amarko.

[Red Herring]

I'd stop worrying about such things if i was you. Not wishing to patronize but if you were able to judge when circumstances were safe enough to be able to commit to a corner to that extent you wouldn't be asking that question. It's a case of running before you can walk. My advice would be to continue to build your experience and feeling for what the bike is telling you in small steps and how far you lean the bike over will take care of itself. If you do want to fast track the process (no pun intended) then go and do it on a track day, that's exactly what they are for. It is very rare that conditions on the road are safe or appropriate for you to knee down properly.
I'm reasonably competent around a track and my chicken strips aren't that much small than yours, and I can't remember the last time i had my knee down on the road.

[Berlin]

Get that chain Oiled! :)

[Nick_69]

It will come, my tires are like yours, but im still waiting for that perfect day to come and everything clicks and i push the bike the bit more over.

[barwel1992]

^cheers to the above will keep that in mind :)

and the chain is oiled it was just stupidly wet that day so most had cloged up

[kwak zzr]

that perfect corner will come, dont force your KD cus you will crash.

[Holdup]

In the summer my D208's both front and rear had 2mm strips left either side if that and tbh i didnt feel like i was leaning that much neither did i get my knee down, its all down to your body positioning, i try but im not bothered that i dont when it happens, it will happen and for me it might not even be on my SV. + its not all how much chicken strip its how you hang off, some one i know has an inch chicken strip on his gsxr 6 rear wheel, yet he manages kd no problem

One piece of useful advice (which Berlin mentioned) was if your going round right hand corner get your left arm staright that will twist your body ya da ya da (and obviously going left straighten your right arm) ive noticed i stick my knee out further now following that advice but not only that it helps my cornering a bit more (especially on these cold damp roads), thanks Berlin! :thumright:

[kwak zzr]

police motorcyclists dont get their KD but try and beat one round a corner ;)

[petevtwin650]

IMO, chicken strips don't neccessarily prove anything. Although I do laugh at someones if it looks like they haven't got it over far :oops:

On the road, keeping the bike as upright as possible whilst cornering is safer I believe.

[Holdup]

My boss has near enough no chicken strips but he pays the price and ends up scraping his lower fairings of his vfr800 on the road, cool though :cool:

[barwel1992]

i do agree that geting KD on the road is not that good of a idea but where i live there are tones of small (ish) islands with good road surface, and its verry quiet during the week when im off colage so not causing a nusance :)

petevtwin650 might know this but on the way to leamington spa vire the coventry road and then the fly over, past michauls potatos the tight 90o s bend is one of other places i have tried to do it, has new(ish) road surface and the camber is just right going one way (not the other)

but think im going to get my self on a track day early next year to try and get better in general :)

[timwilky]

I've never got my knee down and I don't think I have any bother keeping up with most people I have ridden with.

Few exceptions hey Amarko.

Mark cheats, he goes round bends upright and makes it look natural. Few have been able to keep up with him.

Then again when you spend your life on Hartside you have to learn how to corner. Lucky sod makes the most boring of bikes corner like they are on rails. fun watching pure sports bikes try to keep up with his old TDM as he meanders his way round. Now he has the 1250 should be even slicker.

[neio79]

Chicken strips dont bear any indication of how good a rider you are, no wait ... yes they do!! however you can have 0mm on your tyres yet never get your knee down.


never got my knee down on the road but i have no chickenstrips :)

[CheGuevara]

Best thing I ever did in an effort to achieve my first knee-down... was to stop trying. I focused on everything else - in general a good line and being as smooth as possible, and then it just happened. Once it clicked it was like 2nd nature. That said I don't really feel comfortable with it on the roads here (I can't really put my finger on the reason why that is though), so aside from the track I've pretty much stopped trying.

With regards to the tires on the SV - I think the 160 is pretty wide for the rim, and seem to make for a steep profile near the edges -relatively difficult to use the full width of the tire (on the road).

[petevtwin650]

petevtwin650 might know this but on the way to leamington spa vire the coventry road and then the fly over, past michauls potatos the tight 90o s bend is one of other places i have tried to do it, has new(ish) road surface and the camber is just right going one way (not the other)


Yes, the right hand bend (coming from Rugby) after the straight mile. Always a bit wary there as lorries pull out of the Potato place and might dump diesel or mud on it plus it has a left turn on it so vehicles might cross in front of you having misjudged your speed. Nice bit of road down to Princethorpe :D

[Red Herring]

police motorcyclists dont get their KD but try and beat one round a corner ;)

Speak for yourself, it's just not considered appropriate behaviour... besides with all the rubbish they've hung on the latest BMWs it's a real struggle to get your body position right.

[kwak zzr]

still very quick tho :)

[barwel1992]

Yes, the right hand bend (coming from Rugby) after the straight mile. Always a bit wary there as lorries pull out of the Potato place and might dump diesel or mud on it plus it has a left turn on it so vehicles might cross in front of you having misjudged your speed. Nice bit of road down to Princethorpe :D

no no not that bit after that corner and the after the next one ther is like a snakey bit then you get to a sharp left and then a sharp right (that corner) then that goes past the salvage place or what ever it is

attached image, and i dont like that corner where potato place is, the one after is brill thogh well it is coming towards rugby

[ThEGr33k]

Yeah - elbow down!

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/xlarge/633814459257787000valentino-rossi-catalunya-03.jpg

They have it easy in MotoGP! Laying down on the job... :rolleyes:

As to chicken strips... On the SV I had very little on the front, maybe a mm, on the back about 5mm. Thats because the rear tyre is pinched, by that I mean a 160 tyre should really have a 5" rim, but its on a 4.5" rim on the SV.

Now on the Falco I have small chicken strips on the front (cos its a 120/70 vs the 120/60 on the SV) and none at all on the back, that's a 180/55 on a 6" rim. So as you can see its more to do with tyre/rim size than rider ability.

:D

[barwel1992]

hmm intresting i was wondering how easy it is to fit a wider rim? but heard thers a lot of mashining involved

[ophic]

chicken strips and knee down are kind of opposite things. The whole point of leaning off the bike is to keep it as upright as possible. If you want to get rid of chicken strips, just lean to the opposite side in a corner - the bike will then have to lean more, and assuming you don't end up in a hedge, the chicken strips will quickly be gone.

Getting knee down whilst on the edge of the tyre is definitely something for track days imho.

[CheGuevara]

hmm intresting i was wondering how easy it is to fit a wider rim? but heard thers a lot of mashining involved

I don't think it's really necessary - while it might be a *bit* more difficult to get to the edge I still think there's more than enough tire availabe to use. There are certainly some very fast riders/racers on the stock combo.

That said, I plan to swap to a late model GSXR wheel (sitting in my garage) - mostly for the aesthetics. To do this I need a few spacers machined, and a bit milled off of the caliper hanger and the GSXR sprocket carrier. I don't expect to go any faster as a result, or even to lean any further - I may have a slightly larger contact patch at my limit, but I don't ever expect to be that far over on the road unless I've misjudged a corner perhaps.

[barwel1992]

no i know it wont do any thing for my riding but the look i do like, plus its somthing to add to my mod list :D

[petevtwin650]

no no not that bit after that corner and the after the next one ther is like a snakey bit then you get to a sharp left and then a sharp right (that corner) then that goes past the salvage place or what ever it is


Not keen on that one either, as there is not a lot of vision as you attack the 1st 90 degree-er. Plus there is the right hand junction out and possibility of cyclists.

One of my favourites used to be this one

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/petevtwin650/org%20posts/aaa2-4.jpg

On the road between Princethorpe and Hunningham Hill. Used to be able to go quite quickly there;) until, once,there was a car turning right at the junction on the bottom of the pic. Luckily he just started to move and I managed to zoom up between him and the high kerb. Don't go so quickly there now :(

[Dave20046]

The kind of toughts that cause crashes, don't worry about 'em. As said above if you lean off or the tyre pitch doesn't allow it you might never get rid of them doesn't mean you're slow. I had some super sticky dunlops and never hit the edge on those, avon storms I got over to the edge first time I went out on them.

Something that's been confusing me is, I feel more comfortable on right hand bends, I've got no chicken strips, however the edge of the left hand side of my rear tyre has been visibly hammered. Is it because I don't lean off on left handers or are there just more left hand bends in round my area? :scratch:

[Holdup]

Something that's been confusing me is, I feel more comfortable on right hand bends, I've got no chicken strips, however the edge of the left hand side of my rear tyre has been visibly hammered. Is it because I don't lean off on left handers or are there just more left hand bends in round my area? :scratch:

Same i love right handers and really hate left handers yet upon inspection of my rear tyre both sides have the same ammount of strip but the left is more chewed up

[CheGuevara]

no i know it wont do any thing for my riding but the look i do like, plus its somthing to add to my mod list :D

Well Luis ("SVXR650" or something like that) off the US forum sells a pre-made kit on ebay. It's a bit out of my budget though, so I've done the measurments myself and just need to find the time and a reasonably-priced machinist - hopefully this winter. I have a K7 750 wheel (match to my front end) for the swap.

[barwel1992]

Not keen on that one either, as there is not a lot of vision as you attack the 1st 90 degree-er. Plus there is the right hand junction out and possibility of cyclists.

One of my favourites used to be this one
On the road between Princethorpe and Hunningham Hill. Used to be able to go quite quickly there;) until, once,there was a car turning right at the junction on the bottom of the pic. Luckily he just started to move and I managed to zoom up between him and the high kerb. Don't go so quickly there now :(

hmm i know what you mean about the vision there but its opend up now that the leavs have falen, so on dry winter days its fun, and yup that corner is great as well, i love the run all theway down the foss to stratford, apart from there's not that many place for overtaking, was actuly having some fun with a tl1000s down there not so long ago stupid fast bike, i was on my own and couldent keep with him and he was pilliond up with panyers, hit the straight and he flew off at full wack :rolleyes: typical lol but kept with him through the corners :D

[Mr Speirs]

Honestly, I would stop worrying/trying to get rid of chicken strips or getting your knee down. It used to dictate the way I rode which was attack every corner, take no prisoners and it ended in a Hot Smokey Armco/Bike/Mr Speirs interaction. Still never got my knee down or rid of my chicken strips and I never used to hang about in corners either.

Some tyres are very very hard to get to the edge of, others are easier. Just enjoy riding but make sure you are at home at the end of the day.

BTW this time of year isn't the time to be attempting knee downs or edge of tyre antics. Not saying its impossible just not the time to learn. :)

[CheGuevara]

The kind of toughts that cause crashes, don't worry about 'em. As said above if you lean off or the tyre pitch doesn't allow it you might never get rid of them doesn't mean you're slow. I had some super sticky dunlops and never hit the edge on those, avon storms I got over to the edge first time I went out on them.

Something that's been confusing me is, I feel more comfortable on right hand bends, I've got no chicken strips, however the edge of the left hand side of my rear tyre has been visibly hammered. Is it because I don't lean off on left handers or are there just more left hand bends in round my area? :scratch:

Left corners are always sharper? It's the opposite where I'm from and most bikes that had lowside damage were generally damaged on the RHS. I'd venture a guess that it'd be the LHS here?

[Dave20046]

Left corners are always sharper? It's the opposite where I'm from and most bikes that had lowside damage were generally damaged on the RHS. I'd venture a guess that it'd be the LHS here?
Yeah I think you're right. As for being sharper, I'm not sure does that dictate how much more rapidly it wears?

[CheGuevara]

Yeah I think you're right. As for being sharper, I'm not sure does that dictate how much more rapidly it wears?

Well I'd guess that:

1) If you rode the sharper corner at a similar speed (to the right-hander) there would be more stress/wear on the tire, or

2) If you're slowing for the sharper corner and then getting on the gas a bit harder on the exit (vs a smoother line and more consistent speed on the right-hander), you might put more stress or wear on the tire.

[Dave20046]

Well I'd guess that:

1) If you rode the sharper corner at a similar speed (to the right-hander) there would be more stress/wear on the tire, or

2) If you're slowing for the sharper corner and then getting on the gas a bit harder on the exit (vs a smoother line and more consistent speed on the right-hander), you might put more stress or wear on the tire.
Hmm true

[Mr Speirs]

Left handers are always sharper. Becuase we ride/drive of the left hand of the road.
Remember left handers are the same as right handers. Just depends which way up the road you are riding :)

[ThEGr33k]

Only roundabouts go against that. Maybe thats why we like them?

[metalangel]

If you want to get rid of chicken strips, just lean to the opposite side in a corner - the bike will then have to lean more, and assuming you don't end up in a hedge, the chicken strips will quickly be gone.

I'm not so sure that's a good idea, I've seen a nasty crash or two on Youtube from people doing that. I thought you should always more into the corner than the bike.

[Warthog]

One thing as well berwel is that I notice you have a naked bike. I have the same K3 naked, and I find the riding position is so bolt upright that sliding off to get your knee down is a bit harder. When I did a track day at Rockingham, I got rid of all my chicken strips and also ground my pegs a bit, but didn't try leaning off much (no sliders) so never got my knee down. I guess what I am saying is that on a naked SV, the pegs grind before the edge of the tyres so you still have more leaning possible :). But be careful about doing on the road! Do a track day, its much safer and teaches you a lot about cornering faster.

[Sally]

Knee down isn't important, more about being comfortable with the way you ride. If you feel comfortable and safe leaning off like a monkey, do that, that's what I do. It's my riding style, it feels the safest for me.

But if you feel more comfortable not moving alot off the bike, it's obviously going to be safer.

Just do what you want, and what feels right.

Knee down and less chicken strips are not related. The more you lean off the bike, the less the bike has to lean, so you will get larger chicken strips than if you took the same corner at the same speed but not leaning off.

One of the fastest riders I have ridden with, was Luckypants on the GMII. I was completely ragging my bike to keep up, leaning off like a monkey, and Mike didn't move a inch off his bike. It looked very smooth and natural, I had a hard time trying to stay behind him and Carelesschucca.

Proves riding style and chicken strips doesn't dictate how well you ride, it's what is most comfortable and safe for you.

[Smudge]

i do agree that geting KD on the road is not that good of a idea but where i live there are tones of small (ish) islands with good road surface, and its verry quiet during the week when im off colage so not causing a nusance :)

petevtwin650 might know this but on the way to leamington spa vire the coventry road and then the fly over, past michauls potatos the tight 90o s bend is one of other places i have tried to do it, has new(ish) road surface and the camber is just right going one way (not the other)

but think im going to get my self on a track day early next year to try and get better in general :)

so you have two bikes, can afford track days and your at college eh! what am i doing wrong, i wouldnt worry about getting your knee down until summer comes around again if it ever does.

[barwel1992]

^ ah no i have 1 expensif bike (mt-03) and one cheep bike sv the mt has been sold (awating colection) and im at colage, but im wanting to do track day for my 18 bday :)

ohh and about the left hand/ right hand thing the right will allways be easyer as most of u are right hand/footed and islands are all right hand and the majority of coreners i find are to the right, im left footed thogh (right handed) so do seem to have a problem with ether will get just as low on a left hander as i would on a right hander, could just be me thogh.

in responce to sally, i dont have a problem geting off the bike, if im realy giving it some, i tend to get right off the bike (leg on saddle) but dont put knee out (unles i think i may have a KD) i just use my weight (16ston) to wrestle the bike around and make it do what i want it to :)

EDITohh and PS not botherd about geting rid of chicken strips just thorght it was relevent to my KD stuf

[metalangel]

Countersteering ftw.

[Nobbylad]

As has been said previously, I'd worry more about looking out for numpties on the road than getting your KD or rid of chicken strips. I did my 1st trackday at Anglesey in September and had no chicken strips (or pegs!) left after the 1st few sessions....and still no KD.

Got an instructor to follow me and offer me advice on a session and then after listening to their comments, KD was easy after that.

That said, last session of the day, almost at the end of the 1st lap I binned it going into a RH too quick. Got my knee down as well as my elbow, ar$e and the bike. Less than £100 worth of damage and I was fine.....wouldn't have been the case if I'd been doing it on the road, where my tyres would have probably been colder anyway.

Even after getting my KD on the track, I doubt I ever want to get that far over on the road....you just never know.

[Red Herring]

Left handers are always sharper. Becuase we ride/drive of the left hand of the road.
Remember left handers are the same as right handers. Just depends which way up the road you are riding :)

Well if we're going to get all technical don't forget to factor in the camber of the road as well, and of course that you can generally see further around right handers, and that hedges are potentially more forgiving than oncoming traffic...

[sv-robo]

Chicken strip is no indication of how well you are riding.

Also depends on tyre profile, Michelin PR2's I know for a fact never reach the edge.

.

+1...same with the diablo corsa(the profile drops right down at the edges)got it down to about 5/6mm on the rear, sliders skimming tarmac on road.

My mate who i mostly ride out (on dunlops)with has less than me & he'd be the 1st to admit he does'nt take it over nowhere near as far,his tyre just has a way flatter profile(hence easier to get to the edge).

At the end of the day strips mean f/all.

[injury_ian]

Mine did.

I doubt it was on an SV650. I had pegs and fairing lowers down at rockingham. still a healthy 5-6mm on the rear tyre.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2568/155/112/663855931/n663855931_2716312_2777957.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2568/155/112/663855931/n663855931_2716309_2619394.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2716315&id=663855931

[barwel1992]

EDIT ^ but how can the rubber have beeded up like that on the edge of the tread if you dident use that bit of tire ? could it be diforent compounds just look like chicken strips

hmm all this is intresting as i have read a load of stuf (american) that it means you dont corner bla bla bla lol typical americans making crap up again :D lol obv if the chicken stips cover most of the tire then there's somthing wrong but like in my tire theres about a inch maybe inch and half so not that bad in light of all that been sead.

ohh and i have heard the terminology (used buy a police man i know) that if you get ure knee down then ure going to fast ? well looking at a video on msn when they are trying it for the first time on a island they are going prety slow maybe 15-20mph, and mange to do it and bla bla, seems that its just a prespective that knee down = fast buy some people ?

[ophic]

The whole point of getting your knee down is to corner faster. Why else would you want to do it? no point if you're going slow.

[injury_ian]

the chcken strip on mine is visible after the blobs of rubber.

On my triumph that wouldnt happen, as all the tyre gets laid on the road, its all to do with geometry and profiles

[TazDaz]

I wouldn't say the picture in the original post is showing very small chicken strips! More of a medium sized! ;)

Head next to the mirror, actively trying to get the knee down, and you said in another thread you've found the grip limit of the SV in less than a month and half - so in October/November (**** road surfaces). I don't want to be the one to say it, but I think you need to chill out a bit and just ride rather than actively trying to achieve goals which in my opinion don't really need to be done on our roads.

[Dave20046]

Left handers are always sharper. Becuase we ride/drive of the left hand of the road.
Remember left handers are the same as right handers. Just depends which way up the road you are riding :)
Cheers speirs/che - it's literally worn down like a mm more, seems a lot that's why I wondered.

[G]

It will happen 10x easier on the track than on the road, it will happen without even trying in the slightest.

[trumpet]

Never had chicken strips.
Never had my knee down.

[mister c]

I've never had my knee down on the road & not really bothered tbh. Dont have very large chicken strips (got bigger now the bad weather has turned up). I have had my knee down on the track like G says, it seems easier on track.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/croozenooze/LGIM0283.jpg

[barwel1992]

I wouldn't say the picture in the original post is showing very small chicken strips! More of a medium sized! ;)

Head next to the mirror, actively trying to get the knee down, and you said in another thread you've found the grip limit of the SV in less than a month and half - so in October/November (**** road surfaces). I don't want to be the one to say it, but I think you need to chill out a bit and just ride rather than actively trying to achieve goals which in my opinion don't really need to be done on our roads.

i had the bike when the wather (hear) was good and found that i could push hard enough roudn a corner for the front and back to start to lose it(grip), and whats the point in riding if i dont want to strive to become better? if i did that i would never have gained confidence in the first place to try this stuf.

Maybe i just work diforently to you, but i have always pushed my self as hard as posible to become good at somthing especialy where riding is envolved (quads, MTB,motorbike) i dident have the money or confidence to get out on the track at the time/end of the seson, and the track is still daunting to me, where as the roads arnt, i ride within my limits, and am aware of whats going on around me, i know the roads and where to slow down, if i dont know the roads then i ride at "normal" pace.

and the strips are small campaird to what i found when i searched for them, what i found was all or none mine arnt exactly all and they arnt none. to me at the time = small

The whole point of getting your knee down is to corner faster. Why else would you want to do it? no point if you're going slow.
i know but the way it was sead is that you HAVE to be going fast to get ure knee down :/

[TazDaz]

I wasn't trying to have a go - just saying that it sounded from my point of view that you were trying hard to get your knee down when in all honesty it doesn't mean anything when riding on the roads. I've been out with some amazing bikers, not from this forum, yet they never actually touch their knee down.

and the track is still daunting to me, where as the roads arnt.

This is something which seems to be common yet it really should always be the other way around! The track is the safest environment you can have for trying things like the knee down etc. Everyone going the same way, no tractor round the next corner, usually a nice run off as opposed to a hedge line.

[barwel1992]

ok came a cross as thogh you were but no problem :), and yeh i know what you mean about the KD thing and you can still be fast without doing it, its just somthing that drew me to biking in the first place :/

and yeh it should be the other way round but its that thing where u are potentialy on ure own with no one u know and could be the slowest thing there, and i know it dosent matter but i dosent exactly give you much confidence when ure been lapped and lapped and geting in peoples way, also remebering the flags and stuf like that just tends to be a bit scary realy.

well im taking my mate when he passes his test, will take him when its dry to see what we can both do atleast im not the only noob :D, hes on a gsx-f 600 1991 plate (a tad old) will see what it can do vs the sv

[-Ralph-]

An ex SV Ecosse member had no chicken strips, but when he cornered he looked like he was trying to lay the bike down on the tarmac whilst not touching the ground himself, such was the severity of his counter lean, body bolt upright at all times. Every corner I was convinced he was about to low side it. Because he had no chicken strips he thought he was a cornering god, truth is he wasn't that quick.

As for KD, if you've got a 34 inside leg and you lean off so far that your ar$e and thigh is right off the saddle, and you stick your knee out at 90 degrees, you'd probably not be far off KD when stationary on the sidestand! :D

My brother in law and I followed a rider recently who had his knee down on every roundabout and sharp bend, he was holding us up, afterwards we commented on how it was nice to know we were quick enough to get knees down if we wanted to.

It's all bollox, and neither chicken strips or KD have anything to do with how quick you are. Buy leathers with no kneesliders so you don't wanna put your knee down for fear of damaging them and forget about it.

[barwel1992]

^ lol thats a good solution actuly but i carnt just buy what i want lol so will have to do with what i have (leathers)

and i think one of the problems as far as my size goes (prety fat) is that i may not be able to get my leg that far out (as mentiond in the first post) im about 6ft1ish with medium-long legs but that where i carry my weight so have big thighs but i dont seem to have a problem geting off the bike so not sure if i have enough of a knee out, i supose the good thing about track days are that you can get some one to tell you all this stuf :)

[Nobbylad]

Seriously mate, trying to get rid of your chicken strips, or get your KD on the road is looking for trouble IMO. The track is the safest place to get do either of these things and as has been said, if you go out to just get a KD or get rid of the chicken strips, the likelihood is you'll bin it.

I did my 1st track day in September (as I said earlier) and although I wanted to get a KD, that wasn't the focus. The focus was to experience a track day, the ground pegs, worn toe sliders, KD and chicken strip reduction were just benefits of having a stonking good time going quick (in my mind at least!) around a surface built for it.

Yes I binned it on the track, however I got up and walked away, if it'd been on the road, I'd deffo have been in a LOT more trouble.

[barwel1992]

lol im not botherd about chicken strips i just thorght i was somthing to do with KD and as i sead will get on the track (in the dry) and just see how it goes

[Richie]

wasn't this thread answered before (http://79.123.35.161/showthread.php?t=55394&highlight=messure)... Back in 2004... when I was a newbee...?

[Berlin]

Now on the Falco I have small chicken strips on the front (cos its a 120/70 vs the 120/60 on the SV) and none at all on the back, that's a 180/55 on a 6" rim. So as you can see its more to do with tyre/rim size than rider ability.

:D

Nick, if you're runing a 6" rear rim then thats usually the 190/55 17 size. 5.5" is standard for 180/55 so rather than pinch, you've got spread which is why there's no chicken strips on the rear :)

C

[Bluefish]

hi barwel, the only time i have had my knee down was on a track, have tried going round roundabouts and no joy and the bigger they are the faster you have to go, even on the track i nearly had to get off the bike to do it, lol, but as has been mentioned getting the opposite and looking down the side of the mirrors is the way to go. i second trying it on country roads etc is pretty risky as you can't see though any bend that would be tight enough to get your knee down on. i am sure when you do your track day you will not have a problem with it, good luck but don't push it, you know what i mean, it's not worth it. rubber side down, andy.

[Dave20046]

i second trying it on country roads etc is pretty risky as you can't see though any bend that would be tight enough to get your knee down on. i am sure when you do your track day you will not have a problem with it, good luck but don't push it, you know what i mean, it's not worth it. rubber side down, andy.
Absolutely agree if getting your knee down doesn't feel natural there's a good chance you'll kill yourself trying on the road. On the track I tried hanging off what felt ridiculously excessively, and it just made me even slower so I jacked it in. If it had of been on a tight country bend that suddenly tightened up without warning could have been painful.

[barwel1992]

well will be booking a track day for april time ish taking my dad if he gets a bike buy then (aprilia dorsoduro) and my mate (as already sead) on his gsxf, i will have some rubber to use that's good for the track in the likes of a part worn bt016 (when i go to get it) and will get a new back bt016 as well, so that should aid in my ability to get a round the track in good pace :)

[ThEGr33k]

Nick, if you're runing a 6" rear rim then thats usually the 190/55 17 size. 5.5" is standard for 180/55 so rather than pinch, you've got spread which is why there's no chicken strips on the rear :)

C

Yea, thats true. For some reason though most tyre companies seem to recommend 180/55. Though I might give 190/55 a go and see how it works out.