had a pint last night? [Archive] - SV650.org

timwilky

07-12-09, 08:20 AM

I know it is christmas and easy pickings for those in the plumbing profession. Last week I was stopped, questioned and sent on my way by the boys in blue (and fluorescent yellow) on my way to work at 7:30am.

This morning they are back again, this time I did have a few last night, well 4 to be precise. I reasoned that my body should have dumped the alcohol in the 8 hours from my last pint to getting in the car. But seeing them waving in traffic this morning my heart (yes I do have one) was well and truly in my mouth. Fortunately the nice man wave me on.

So I guess I will not be playing out on school nights in future for a while.

husky03

07-12-09, 08:32 AM

min of twelve hours

Sally

07-12-09, 08:36 AM

min of twelve hours

What? :-k

12 hours for 4 pints?

pints is around 2.5 units, so four are around 10 units..

It's around 1 unit per hour?

Jabba

07-12-09, 08:40 AM

Yeah.... the pipe-benders catch more during the morning after than they do during the previous night.

Time to be careful for sure, but I don't mind as it's a good excuse for them to check insurance, MOT, etc.

Jabba

07-12-09, 08:41 AM

It's around 1 unit per hour?

I read somewhere that it half an unit in an hour.

husky03

07-12-09, 09:10 AM

carty

07-12-09, 09:13 AM

1 unit per hour I believe.

After 4 pints some people would drive immediately and think nothing of it (I wouldn't). 12 hours later I personally would assume I was ok - I had 5 pints yesterday evening and would have driven this morning without a second thought (but I commute by train so had no need to).

Sally

07-12-09, 10:02 AM

no sorry sal -should have worded that better-min of twelve hours from having two pints-but as always it all depends on your bodies ability to process alcohol-best advice would be don't drink at all if you plan on driving next day.
Got a drink driving thing coming up soon -gonna be like shooting fish in a barrel.

12 hours to process 2 pints? :\
Wow seriously? That's scary...
Or do you mean 12 hours after you have had 2 pints, and go onto have another 2?

Most police forces have a Xmas drink driving initiative?
Doesnt affect me this year, won't be able to ride the bike till next year :(

wyrdness

07-12-09, 11:41 AM

The BBC says 1 hour per unit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3303805.stm

So 4 pints is about 10 units, so 10 hours.

I don't believe Husky03's figure of 12 hours for 2 pints.

Dave20046

07-12-09, 11:48 AM

The BBC says 1 hour per unit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3303805.stm

So 4 pints is about 10 units, so 10 hours.

I don't believe Husky03's figure of 12 hours for 2 pints.
its 1hour per unit, half an hour to an hour after you've stopped drinking.
That's for someone healthy - everyone's different.

I got stopped on my way home last year, copper was a twunt about it. Blues and twos came on (was doing just under the limit, 5pm on my way home from work), pulled me over then told me he was stopping me for jumping a red light (I hadn't) continued with the looming threat of this imaginery offence despite me politely correcting him each time he mentioned it. then made me sit in the back of the car as soon as he pulled out the breathylizer it clicked. I said 'oh yeah, it's christmas' and he kind of nodded. As soon as we established I had no booze in my blood he was ok, still don't agree with being stopped like that though. twit.

Owenski

07-12-09, 11:51 AM

I heard it was 4hours for your first pint to clear through and then an extra 2hours for every subsiquent pint. So waiting 12hours for 2 pints I was WAYYYY off, most Sundays on the way to football that'd have me over the limit. :O

Owenski

07-12-09, 11:53 AM

its 1hour per unit, half an hour to an hour after you've stopped drinking.
That's for someone healthy - everyone's different.

I got stopped on my way home last year, copper was a twunt about it. Blues and twos came on (was doing just under the limit, 5pm on my way home from work), pulled me over then told me he was stopping me for jumping a red light (I hadn't) continued with the looming threat of this imaginery offence despite me politely correcting him each time he mentioned it. then made me sit in the back of the car as soon as he pulled out the breathylizer it clicked. I said 'oh yeah, it's christmas' and he kind of nodded. As soon as we established I had no booze in my blood he was ok, still don't agree with being stopped like that though. twit.

why do they have to lie? I'd be more then understanding if they said "sorry mate we've got to stop people at random to check for drink drivers, christmas and all that..." Obviusly i'd be a ****ting myself if I'd have been drinking the night before, but at least I wouldnt be ****ed off with the officer.

husky03

07-12-09, 12:02 PM

go have two pints and then drive your car 6-7 hours later and see how confident you are when you need to blow-12hrs means theres no chance of you failing.

Owenski

07-12-09, 12:05 PM

ah right that makes sense :) fair point.

Dave20046

07-12-09, 12:32 PM

why do they have to lie? I'd be more then understanding if they said "sorry mate we've got to stop people at random to check for drink drivers, christmas and all that..." Obviusly i'd be a ****ting myself if I'd have been drinking the night before, but at least I wouldnt be ****ed off with the officer.
I think he had to lie as it wasn't a specific stop and test operation they just need to do a certain number per week. Like you say I have no problems them testing just would have preferred him being straight with me. This particular guy was just a ****.

Jabba

07-12-09, 12:51 PM

IIRC, they are not allowed to stop you without cause, i.e. reason to believe that a road traffic offence has been committed. So unless your driving gives them cause to believe that you've been drinking then they need another excuse.

I got breathalysed a few years ago. They pulled me in at a check point located right outside the restaurant I'd just left....... I was honest about having had a pint and, sure enough, the gizmo lit up orange. All I got was a "Thank you sir, you've been most honest. Drive safely."

I have never been so nervous in all my life, even though I was sure I was alright.

Bluepete

07-12-09, 12:54 PM

IIRC, they are not allowed to stop you without cause,

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/powers/road-traffic/

Pete ;)

davepreston

07-12-09, 01:45 PM

pete fancy a wager ,pint on it, i'd say more plumbers get dr10's this month than the rest of the year combined (your "company" alone)

Bluepete

07-12-09, 01:57 PM

pete fancy a wager ,pint on it, i'd say more plumbers get dr10's this month than the rest of the year combined (your "company" alone)

You would be suprised. I get around six or seven a month anyway. But, with the annual campaign, last year, teamed up, instead of single crewed, we locked up twenty-five in December 2008. As for the force, I don't know the exact numbers, but it's lots.

Pete ;)

lee67

07-12-09, 02:12 PM

makes me glad i dont drink(havnt for 20 years)...as for those who do and drive..they want shooting;)

Bri w

07-12-09, 03:31 PM

I don't tempt fate, especially in December. I was out with the lads on Saturday night, as designated driver. Orange J20 - ar5se thought it had been on a curry night after half a doz :smt118.

Don't people talk sh!t3 after a few beers :drink:

davepreston

07-12-09, 03:45 PM

Don't people talk sh!t3 after a few beers :drink:
yes and me the the rest of us shall take great pleasure in proving that on the 12th :)

sunshine

07-12-09, 03:50 PM

i went to meet some mates i was on the bike, and i had one, they talked me into a second and third. so the end of the night as they had a fag i pushed my bike to the nearest lamp post and started chaining it up outside the pub and a copper pulls over and thinking im about to ride off they breathalise me, after only just finishing drink a few minutes ago i knew i was going to fail, also knew they couldnt do me as i had been riding i was completely shocked to find i passed the test!!!

3 pints of cider and i still passed a breath test but then about a month later i also found out that local anesthesia's dont effect me, so surgery hurts me more than it should :(

davepreston

07-12-09, 05:49 PM

metalhead19

07-12-09, 06:02 PM

oh yes they can sorry mate if you have the means motive and opertunity your in the dock my boy

Hang on so your saying that you can still get done if they think your about to drive/ride off when your next to your vehicle?

Dave20046

07-12-09, 06:29 PM

Hang on so your saying that you can still get done if they think your about to drive/ride off when your next to your vehicle?
Not sure about bikes but if you're ****ed and in possession of your key and in your car you can be done..
Technically sunshine could have been done anyway for pushing his bike whilst under the influence as it counts as being drunk and incharge of a vehicle (I think!)

Tiger 55

07-12-09, 06:43 PM

go have two pints and then drive your car 6-7 hours later and see how confident you are when you need to blow.
Pretty confident I think.

1) You can't convert units of alcohol to mg of alcohol per mg of blood because lots of things influence the outcome; gender, weight, hydration levels, food eaten etc

and

2) You can't calculate the elimination rate of alcohol because that also varies wildy. I studied this at the college of knowledge and the rates differed from .6 of a unit per hour (your aunt who only drinks sherry at Christmas aunt) to 1.8 units per hour (you uncle who drinks 5 pints at lunchtime and 10 at night)

but

3) You only need to lose 2 units of the roughly 5 you consumed to be under the limit. Over 6-7 hours even your aunt can crack that.

Here's a poorly reproduced picture from a pamphlet produced by our good friends at the Transport and Road Research Laboratory
http://www.80mg.org.uk/images/facts7.jpg
Drinking and driving might not be big and clever, but it's not illegal.

Milky Bar Kid

07-12-09, 07:04 PM

Not sure about bikes but if you're ****ed and in possession of your key and in your car you can be done..
Technically sunshine could have been done anyway for pushing his bike whilst under the influence as it counts as being drunk and incharge of a vehicle (I think!)

Correct. This has been done to death though.

And it's not because the cops "think" you mgiht drive, it's because you are drunk and IN CHARGE of a motor vehicle.

Biker Biggles

07-12-09, 07:08 PM

So if you live in a camper van you could never legally get drunk at home?

Dave20046

07-12-09, 07:09 PM

So if you live in a camper van you could never legally get drunk at home?
You could you would just have to give your key to someone who isn't drinking or secure it outside the vehicle somewhere.

metalhead19

07-12-09, 08:09 PM

I spose that would make sleeping in your car after a heavy night out illegal too?!

Dave20046

07-12-09, 08:11 PM

Aslong as your key isn't in your possession. hide it outside of the car if you must. However detailing the ins and outs of this is probably pointless as the chances of it happening are....

metalhead19

07-12-09, 08:19 PM

Yeah, thats true the chances of it happening are very slim, tis just sods law of it happening...

Dave20046

07-12-09, 08:25 PM

Yeah, thats true the chances of it happening are very slim, tis just sods law of it happening...
Yep, if you happen to be in that scenario safe bets givin your key to a mate or hiding it somewhere close by (and save the location in a draft text on your phone! :drink:)