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I am at the end of my tether trying to get a 100% answer on what this bloody wheel could be. I bought it advertised as a curvy front wheel. It is vastly similar.
Curvy wheel:
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/1214/10033991.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/10033991.jpg/)http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5489/16758309.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/16758309.jpg/)http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2497/55484631.th.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/55484631.jpg/)http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6827/75997424.th.jpg (http://img693.imageshack.us/i/75997424.jpg/)
Wheel x :
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8797/90241255.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/90241255.jpg/)http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5585/55885827.th.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/55885827.jpg/)http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8788/13970099.th.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/13970099.jpg/)http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1462/27030950.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/27030950.jpg/)
The inner bearing on wheel x is smaller and the pattern of metal read by the speedo goes in and is only 2 notches instead of being 4 notches coming out. The curvy wheel is asahi tec 2 and this one is asahi tec.
Ideas anyone?
extra pic:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4117/20091212122154.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/20091212122154.jpg/)
In this thread (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=143871) it was suggested it may be a bandit wheel but i cannot know for sure and it was suggested i just try to replace the bearings but because of the lack of a lip to smash the buggers out and the lack of a bearing removal tool costing ridiculous amounts of money i have decided to try to sell it on but i would love to know what to sell it as!
Im starting to think it may just be a TL wheel. But i could not for the life of me find any pictures. The candidates seem to be gsxr gsxf and tl. Still lost though.....
barwel1992
15-12-09, 03:07 AM
take it to a suzuki garage and see if they know
.... it was suggested i just try to replace the bearings but because of the lack of a lip to smash the buggers out and the lack of a bearing removal tool costing ridiculous amounts of money ....
Well no idea what the wheel is off but bearing removal is pretty simple, without any specialist tools :rolleyes:
Ensure no circlip holding bearing in, turn wheel over, put a drift through wheel (not axle unless its an old thinner one) at an angle so rests on inside lip of bearing, tap drift with light hammer, bearing will pop out, turn wheel back over and repeat to get other one out.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4186284203_d956dd7377.jpg
You will normally find a large sized socket will fit the outer cage of replacement bearing just right for replacement ;)
I did search this up how to remove and tried this for a good twenty minutes :( trouble is there is only about a fraction of a mm of a ledge to get at the inner ring in the first place!
cheers though. it has been suggested to me it could possibly be a kawasaki wheel because of the speedo so i got some research to do in that end now! :)
yorkie_chris
15-12-09, 10:52 AM
It's certainly not a TL wheel. The TL uses same wheel as the GSXR and it has no speedo drive just big bearings for a hollow front spindle.
And this bit is important, the speedo doesn't pick up on those notches in the wheel. Those notches just push the speedo rotor around, the sensor picks up the prongs of the speedo rotor.
So even if you do change bearings, that wheel won't work with your speedo.
I did search this up how to remove and tried this for a good twenty minutes :( trouble is there is only about a fraction of a mm of a ledge to get at the inner ring in the first place!
Which is all you need, the bit you may have missed though was ....
Ensure no circlip holding bearing in....
I discoveredthat little beauty after spending a while trying to get bearing out of the Z750 :oops:
The one on the right in the first picture looks as if it could be off an early Ducati Monster. I'll have a look around the web to see if I can find any close-ups.
EDIT -> Scratch that, just saw a close-up of the wheel stamping and what looks like a "SU" in the third picture of wheel x :rolleyes:
Okay ill go have another bash at it. Im starting on wheel x because that way if i damage the bearing (in the words of ultravox) it means nothing to meeeee!
This has just gotten interesting!
I just noticed there is like a sleeve going from one bearing to the other on the inside. it turns freely and everything so i am guessing it is a spacer. I was looking at it and realised i only had a lip on one half of the bearing the otherside was covered and i was wondering how the spindle would go through if the hole wasnt straight and i found out i could push this sleeve to the side. Ill do a drawing in sketchup in minute to show you guys what i mean.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4545/tado.th.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/tado.png/)
This is a (mockup) view of the wheel with the bearings and this sleeve inside. Anyone know why it would be there or how i would get it out because like i said the way it is seated there is literally no gap to knock the bearings with on certain sides. Shall i just bash this out so it flares so i can get to the bearing?
Cheers guys the interest from you lot is keeping me from going crazy!
I am now a suzuki wheel geek 45 mins surfing and that wheel is from a=
2000 - 2001 gsx 600 f/gsx/gsx600f or gsx750f/gsx750.
its the AJY thats important look on your sv wheel it will say AJ.....
heres some i'v found out
K5 gsxr 1000 AOB
K6 650 sv AOB
early bandit 6 AJB
2001 gsxr 1000 AJZ
97 gsx/gsxr 600 srad AJT
busa AJJ
98 gsx 750 AJM
96-2000 1200 bandit AJM
98 600 bandit AJE
89-97 gsx750f/gsx750 AJG
98 TL1000 AJT
Sv 650 s Curvy 01 front wheel - AJW (asahi tec 2)
k4 sv (silver frame) front AOB rear BOH (asahi tec 2)
k5 sv1000z (black frame ltd) enkel front AJZ rear BOG
thats the ones found for now rears are different, but same applies somthing like AOA
enjoy i'm a geek off to slap myself now.
Brilliant mate thanks i have spent hours on google and forums round and round in circles trying to find this! I must bow down to your amazing search skills!
Today i even bought a set of punches and blunted them all and chipped them all to shreds trying to knock those bearings out but nothing!!! now though i can move on with my life!!! Hurrah.
To be fair those codes have got to be helpful for future reference for a lot of people. Maybe we should ask a mod to sticky it?
CheGuevara
15-12-09, 04:00 PM
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4545/tado.th.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/tado.png/)
This is a (mockup) view of the wheel with the bearings and this sleeve inside. Anyone know why it would be there or how i would get it out because like i said the way it is seated there is literally no gap to knock the bearings with on certain sides. Shall i just bash this out so it flares so i can get to the bearing?
Cheers guys the interest from you lot is keeping me from going crazy!
That inner spacer should be easy (with the aid of your drift) to push/lever to one side so you can get a purchase on the lip of the bearing. When reinstalling the bearings it's often specified to seat one particular side fully before the other, so that the wheel is properly centred.
The inner space ensures that there isn't undue lateral pressure put on the bearing when things are tightened down. Don't damage it.
Brilliant mate thanks i have spent hours on google and forums round and round in circles trying to find this! I must bow down to your amazing search skills!
Today i even bought a set of punches and blunted them all and chipped them all to shreds trying to knock those bearings out but nothing!!! now though i can move on with my life!!! Hurrah.
To be fair those codes have got to be helpful for future reference for a lot of people. Maybe we should ask a mod to sticky it?
what code is on your wheel ? might be worth amassing sv whheel / year codes ill get mine svz1000 and wifes k4 naked and add em.
Anyone want a bandit 00-01 wheel on the cheap with a tyre with plenty of tread i just want rid of it! ill put a thread up in the for sale with an asking price later to please the gods that be!
what code is on your wheel ? might be worth amassing sv whheel / year codes ill get mine svz1000 and wifes k4 naked and add em.
Sv 650 s Curvy 01 front wheel - AJW (asahi tec 2)
Today i even bought a set of punches and blunted them all and chipped them all to shreds trying to knock those bearings out but nothing!!!
Why :confused: I am going to guess you are trying to push the bearing out (assuming from other side of wheel) as per pic above (that shows the spacer sleeve) but you haven't removed the circlips
Why :confused: I am going to guess you are trying to push the bearing out (assuming from other side of wheel) as per pic above (that shows the spacer sleeve) but you haven't removed the circlips
Am i missing something? i was trying to push this one out from the other side so it would be coming towards the camera in this shot
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8797/90241255.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/90241255.jpg/)
I dont see anything blocking this from coming out?
....I dont see anything blocking this from coming out?
Possible one doesn't exist then and its just a case of being stubborn but its happened to me, almost buried the circlip under the bearing, once I pushed the bearing back home (gently) I saw it and took all of 2 mins to remove both bearings afterwards
That inner spacer should be easy (with the aid of your drift) to push/lever to one side so you can get a purchase on the lip of the bearing. When reinstalling the bearings it's often specified to seat one particular side fully before the other, so that the wheel is properly centred.
The inner space ensures that there isn't undue lateral pressure put on the bearing when things are tightened down. Don't damage it.
it has nearly no give to it at all it turns and widdles from one side of the wheel to the other but even that is being restricted by friction by the feel of things.
Wideboy
15-12-09, 07:58 PM
oh ****!!! this thread has just made me think i may have done something very stupid :smt095
oh ****!!! this thread has just made me think i may have done something very stupid :smt095
Whats that mate? come on whats the use in doing something silly if theres not someone there to laugh at it! :)
Wideboy
15-12-09, 08:07 PM
nah just checked and im safe :lol:, made a new spacer a few weeks back and this thread made me think about popping the bearings out....... i thought "oohh feeb i've done the spacer and left no slack to leave a lip on the bearings"........... but i just checked and my mind was running on overtime :lol:
CheGuevara
15-12-09, 08:24 PM
it has nearly no give to it at all it turns and widdles from one side of the wheel to the other but even that is being restricted by friction by the feel of things.
There should be no slop in the spacer along the axis of the axle (if there is then I think your bearing may be partway out already). There should be enough space at at least one end to move it slightly off-axis and expose the inner lip of the bearing. If it doesn't go easy then try a little gentle persuasion with a hammer on your drift/lever.
yorkie_chris
16-12-09, 12:09 PM
What's the point if you're not going to be able to fit the speedo rotor in anyway?
What's the point if you're not going to be able to fit the speedo rotor in anyway?
Well originally i just wanted to get a wheel on because otherwise my bike is without a wheel! but now i have other arrangements i am selling and gonna get a sv wheel even if it kills me!
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