Bar end weights: One now weighs less than the other - problem?

[barwel1992]

:smt073

ok so when i came off my renthal bar end scraped its self away a good 5mm deep and about 10mm squared will this have any affect on the bike EG handling until i get new ones as i can feel the weight difference in my hands when holding the undamaged one and the damaged one?:-s

also whats the best weights to get the renthal ones are £15 and quite small and not that heavy any way, but is lighter better or hevier? PS i have renthal streetfighter bars (25mm i think ? standard sv size)
cheers

[rictus01]

generally speaking the heavier the weight the more stabilizing effect it'll have, the payback is in heavier steering, depended on rake, how twitchy is your front end?, if it's standard I doubt you'll notice.

Cheers Mark.

[barwel1992]

erm not that bad but have done a few thing since i last rode it properly and no its not standard the forks are droped so 5mm of stantion is showing at the top triple rear is raised 38mm (30mm dogbones and 8mm longer shock)

dident seem that twitchy to day but only went round the block a few times got up to 80mph and it dident seem that bad on islands

[rictus01]

you'll have to forgive me never taught metric, but 25mm is an inch I think? so just over an inch and a half at the back and about 1/6 of an inch drop at the front ?

I take it you have wide bars, which will minimize any imbalance, it's near enough to stock to not cause any issue really, more a cosmetic.

Cheers Mark.

[barwel1992]

yup have wide bars (renthal streetfighter bars) and yeh was just to quicken up the turn in a bit

and thanks :) i should be able to aford some new ones after i purchase my longer rear brake line (fitted rear sets)

[Lozzo]

Renthals generally have thicker walled tubing, so normal bar ends won't fit. I had this problem when I had my Bandit with Renthals fitted and couldn't get Motrax or Oxford ones to fit. I bought some Hebo plastic bar ends from an MX shop and never noticed any increase in vibration or detriment to the handling.

All the bar ends do is damp out some vibration and tidy the ends of the bars up.

[yorkie_chris]

+1 won't make any difference to the steering as the amount of deflection to steer the bike is a couple of mm at low speed. Is just for vibration.

Be right.

[barwel1992]

ok cheers lads :)

[sunshine]

really heavy bar ends do decrease vibrations but most bar ends dont effect much, i always use small chrome bar ends which are as heavy as standard but smaller so i can turn in quicker.

[barwel1992]

really heavy bar ends do decrease vibrations but most bar ends dont effect much, i always use small chrome bar ends which are as heavy as standard but smaller so i can turn in quicker.

that doesn't make sense I'm sure its the weight that makes it slower to turn in not the size :confused:

[sunshine]

both affect it, where the weight it affects as well, keep the weight as central as possible is how you do it

[barwel1992]

ahh yeh now i get you

[ophic]

both affect it, where the weight it affects as well, keep the weight as central as possible is how you do it
a few mm makes a noticeable difference? I doubt it. I also seriously doubt bar ends make much difference to handling at all, unless you go to the extremes of hanging a few kilos off the ends of the bars.

[sunshine]

put the bar ends with the shot weights in them then use mine and you really feel the difference, and everything that helps to throw the bike from side to side i will take.

[ophic]

just take them off then.

[yorkie_chris]

Bar end weight affects turn in by raising the CoG not by the weight being outboard.

If you want bike to turn in sort out the cruiser geometry of it, on 2gen people seem to settle on a 340mm shock length and GSXR forks which are an inch or so shorter.
On 1gen you can make shock 345mm or longer.

Couple grams on bars I doubt you'd notice.

[Lozzo]

put the bar ends with the shot weights in them then use mine and you really feel the difference, and everything that helps to throw the bike from side to side i will take.

Wow, you must be some kind of a riding god, ever thought of teaching Keith Code some tricks?

I ain't slow myself, and the only noticeable difference I can feel when the bar end weights are removed is the bars have slightly more vibration.

[sunshine]

yep more vibrations and you can feel the weight, i hated not having bar ends when i dropped the bike and changed the bars without having new bar ends

[Lozzo]

No sentient being would ever be able to tell the difference in weight at the ends of the bars in normal, or even track riding. No-one moves the bars far enough or fast enough to be able to detect anything like that, and if you do, then you should seriously consider getting some advanced training before you hurt yourself.

All you'll ever notice is a change in the vibration levels tramsitted up the bars and into your hands

[yorkie_chris]

They will change the natural frequency a touch, maybe you'll notice if you tankslapper a lot :-P