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My old man is looking into getting himself a new PC. The Laptop he has currently is a few years old.
He's seen this:
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vd-ln-series/vgc-ln2m
half price at £500..
Can anyone give me any advice in haste as to whether that is a good buy or whether its old spec and therefore priced accordingly?
Ive been out of the loop for what is decent in PC's for a while as I've not been looking so would appreciate some advice. I have little knowledge on the latest processors.
Looks like a decent machine for the money to me.
32-bit Windows is not latest spec now, hence the price perhaps?
What does your dad want the machine for?
Will it run 64bit though? It can be upgraded to Windows 7 for a little extra
He will be putting video on it but mainly surfing net, playing movies/music etc.
Will it run 64bit though? It can be upgraded to Windows 7 for a little extra
He will be putting video on it but mainly surfing net, playing movies/music etc.
Yes, it has a 64-bit CPU.
can you not build one for that price? I built mine about 15 months ago and its running a Quad processor AMD with 4GB ram which if you run 64bit Windows can go up to 8GB
vaio's are great for factory built machines if it's the spec he wants then i cant see it dissapointing tbh.
Thats it, he doesnt want a big monstrous tower, he likes the Vaio idea as it is all in one package and theres very little wires etc
barwel1992
23-12-09, 08:16 PM
to be honest i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole .... PC's are fickle and unless they are built by me then i would never trust them i have had a few PC's with no thermal paste on the CPU, cheep OEM powersuplies are useless and cause most of the OEM PC failures also the cooling in that sort of PC is utterly useless
just my 2 pence :/
if you have the skill then build him one
thefallenangel
23-12-09, 08:20 PM
to be honest i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole .... PC's are fickle and unless they are built by me then i would never trust them i have had a few PC's with no thermal paste on the CPU, cheep OEM powersuplies are useless and cause most of the OEM PC failures also the cooling in that sort of PC is utterly useless
just my 2 pence :/
if you have the skill then build him one
aint any skill required. Heatshinks come ready pasted, board into case and mount on.
to be honest i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole .... PC's are fickle and unless they are built by me then i would never trust them i have had a few PC's with no thermal paste on the CPU, cheep OEM powersuplies are useless and cause most of the OEM PC failures also the cooling in that sort of PC is utterly useless
just my 2 pence :/
if you have the skill then build him one
Do you provide a warranty?
I think I'd trust the build quality of a global brand than someone in their bedroom knocking together machines
tbh it's not a bad idea building your own you'll get a cheaper faster machine and if you buy good quality parts from the well known respected component manufacturer's it should be as if not more reliable than a factory built machine however you are a bit stuffed on warranty.
tbh it's not a bad idea building your own you'll get a cheaper faster machine and if you buy good quality parts from the well known respected component manufacturer's it should be as if not more reliable than a factory built machine however you are a bit stuffed on warranty.
The components you buy will all have warranties of varying length.
You'll just need the expertise to find the component at fault, and then send it back to the manufacturer.
I build for myself, but not for friends/family for this reason. It's just too much of a pain getting phoned over to fix the bloody thing when it breaks!
barwel1992
24-12-09, 02:03 AM
Do you provide a warranty?
I think I'd trust the build quality of a global brand than someone in their bedroom knocking together machines
yup warranty is covered buy the manufacturer of each item from 1+ years
and standards heat sinks come with hard paste that does not fill the gaps that creat heat pockets unlike liquid paste
ohh and i do more than "knock" together machines, i fully mod them as well and think i know a fair bit more than the robots that put the OEM pc's togeather and take more time and care over the out come. all just my opinions
just so you know what i mean by time a effort my fully modded rig, all cable are run behind the mother board try through holes behind the motherboard to creat the least amont of air turbalance, that would have been created buy the 4 120mm intake fans, 2 grapics cards a dual core that runs at 4.5ghz and never goes above 50c @ 100% load
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo16/barwell1992/P1030719.jpg
at the end of the day its up to you i voiced my concerns but its his/your money at the end of the day do what you want with it :)
happy xmas all :)
on the other hand sony technician's are a bit more skilled than you and will have tested the ball's of said machine's.
barwel1992 - Is that massive box in the middle a heatsink? It's huge!
zsv650 - That kind of work certainly won't be attracting the best and brightest of the IT world. It probably gets run through some automated test (hopefully designed by someone who knows what they're doing) by someone on minimum wage, or not at all.
barwel1992 - Is that massive box in the middle a heatsink? It's huge!
zsv650 - That kind of work certainly won't be attracting the best and brightest of the IT world. It probably gets run through some automated test (hopefully designed by someone who knows what they're doing) by someone on minimum wage, or not at all.
what in japan have you actually seen their r&d lab's bit different to western stuff.
what in japan have you actually seen their r&d lab's bit different to western stuff.
That's a good point, something I hadn't considered :oops:
barwel1992
24-12-09, 02:07 PM
barwel1992 - Is that massive box in the middle a heatsink? It's huge!
zsv650 - That kind of work certainly won't be attracting the best and brightest of the IT world. It probably gets run through some automated test (hopefully designed by someone who knows what they're doing) by someone on minimum wage, or not at all.
yup thats my heat sink lol for my CPU :P
and just think though all the parts that go in to a pc are tested as well so i would say OEM and custom are tested the same, as long as you get the right mother board for the CPU you have and the right ram, and a powerful enough power supply thats a quality make then you wont have any problems plus OEM you lose a lot of functions like upgrading, it can be done but is very limited where as a pc you build you can upgrade what you want
that is true but the parts are not tested together so you get various compatibilty issues or drivers not being there though with my own i havnt found them that bad tbh it's just something to think about.
Thing is though, you missed the point. He doesnt want a massive desktop tower, he wants something which is compact and neat, e.g what a mini slimline desktop tower or built in media centre offers.
sorry just on about pc building in general if you want an all in one compact it's either a vaio or a imac too my knowledge asus may make something similar.
Dave20046
24-12-09, 05:11 PM
Thing is though, you missed the point. He doesnt want a massive desktop tower, he wants something which is compact and neat, e.g what a mini slimline desktop tower or built in media centre offers.
Might be able to get you a decent price on one of these rob
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/graphics/normal/hardware/h1517.jpg
http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2008/04/1453,xcitefun-hp-compaq-dc7800-pc-0.jpg
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/graphics/normal/hardware/h1517.jpg
Or atleast recommend them, not bad for the money (bearing in mind the neat & tidy factor) and not had a single one go wrong and they've been the most popular machine (series) for the last couple of years.
barwel1992
24-12-09, 08:27 PM
Thing is though, you missed the point. He doesnt want a massive desktop tower, he wants something which is compact and neat, e.g what a mini slimline desktop tower or built in media centre offers.
just because my stuf's in a monster case dosent mean it has to be :P
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