Do I need planning permission ?

[stewie]

Ive got a piece of ground up the side of my house I want to make into a garage, the area is approx 2.5 mtrs wide and approx 5.5 mtrs long, it was originally a carport with a flat roof but due to the state it was in when we moved in we took it down. My next door neighbour has built a garage right up to the border line, with permission from me, and I basically want to put a garage/ utility room for a bike, tools, washer/dryer etc, I already have permission from my neighbour to tie in to his property if I need it, Im just a bit confused as to whether I need planning permission to build it, the roof wont be higher than 4 mtrs high and I may just have a sloping flat roof for ease of construction, any ideas guys ?

[Specialone]

Does depend on where you live, strictly speaking it should require building regs approval only not planning.
There are so many variables, party wall act etc, which i have just had a problem with on one of my jobs.
To be on safe side call your local building control, they are really helpful and on your side.

Phil

[Jabba]

Does depend on where you live, strictly speaking it should require building regs approval only not planning.

Sorry fella, but that's complete bollix. No offence intended ;-)

It doesn't matter where you live (I'm assuming Eng & Wales) as planning law is the same wherever you are regardless of which local authority you live in.

The answer to your question will depend upon the size of the proposed garage in relation to the size of your property/garden. It will also depend upon the distance of the proposed garage from your house. Yes, it will also need building regs approval too.

Don't leave it to chance. Ring your local authority's planning dept and get a definitive answer. Remember that if you build it and you did need planning consent then you could end up having to demolish it.

[Ed]

Jabba - what about local disapplication of permitted development rules?

Only sure way is to make an appointment to go see the planning officer at the local authority. I wouldn't rely on a phone call, I'd insist on a personal visit.

[Specialone]

Sorry fella, but that's complete bollix. No offence intended ;-)

It doesn't matter where you live (I'm assuming Eng & Wales) as planning law is the same wherever you are regardless of which local authority you live in.

The answer to your question will depend upon the size of the proposed garage in relation to the size of your property/garden. It will also depend upon the distance of the proposed garage from your house. Yes, it will also need building regs approval too.

Don't leave it to chance. Ring your local authority's planning dept and get a definitive answer. Remember that if you build it and you did need planning consent then you could end up having to demolish it.


No offence taken,but its not bolox, i meant regarding certain areas,for example, protected areas, grade listed buildings etc, if you live in a protected area etc it gets messy.
Btw, i generally work within 2 councils, solihull and b'ham, you would not believe the difference is like chalk and cheese, so you are saying you get no variance ???
Guidelines for planning are the same for england and wales afaik, but interpretation varies.
I deal with these people on a regular basis, even differs between inspectors.
When i done my friends conservatory, he had to get planning permission as was on a newish estate in solihull, leasehold.
I live in castle bromwich, but come under solihull council, no planning required for my conservatory.

Btw defo ring your local bco, then you know for sure

[speedplay]

All points above are useful but rule of thumb (again depending on council) is that you are allowed to build a temporary structure (some councils allow garages under this ruling depending on construction) on upto but no greater than 10% of total land area.

As said above though, have a word with local planning and also building control.

[Specialone]

All points above are useful but rule of thumb (again depending on council) is that you are allowed to build a temporary structure (some councils allow garages under this ruling depending on construction) on upto but no greater than 10% of total land area.

As said above though, have a word with local planning and also building control.

Doesnt the distance from the house come into it also, i know its easier if the garage or temporary structure is away from the house and within certain boundries.

Phil

[speedplay]

Doesnt the distance from the house come into it also, i know its easier if the garage or temporary structure is away from the house and within certain boundries.

Phil


Shouldn't be a problem as there was already a temporary building there (the carport).

I built my shed alongside my house with no permission and its bolted to my house with hilti chemfix and stainless bolts.
Timber framed (4x4), insulated, tyvec inside and out, 15mm ply inside and out, floating pvc membrane roof, triple glazed, a 1 hour fire door, heating and power supply.

Theres a 2 cubic metre concrete slab under it too.

All this was done under the 10% and "temporary" building ruling.

How "temporary" do you think my shed is? ;)

[Stu]

Shouldn't be a problem as there was already a temporary building there (the carport).

I built my shed alongside my house with no permission and its bolted to my house with hilti chemfix and stainless bolts.
Timber framed (4x4), insulated, tyvec inside and out, 15mm ply inside and out, floating pvc membrane roof, triple glazed, a 1 hour fire door, heating and power supply.

Theres a 2 cubic metre concrete slab under it too.

All this was done under the 10% and "temporary" building ruling.

How "temporary" do you think my shed is? ;)
About until the time you come to sell your house & the buyer finds out it has no planning permission ;)

[speedplay]

About until the time you come to sell your house & the buyer finds out it has no planning permission ;)

Did you actually read the above thread?!

Its less than 10% of total ground area and is a "temporary" building.
It doesnt need planning..:rolleyes:

;)

[davepreston]

hope op doesnt mind the hijack but here goes
my house had a conservitory on it when we bought it (on the side) it was too small imho so we ripped it off ,now i want to build a garage ,so mighty org ,would this be allowed
orginal was 7 foot by 6 foot by 8 foot (h) and attached to house

[speedplay]

hope op doesnt mind the hijack but here goes
my house had a conservitory on it when we bought it (on the side) it was too small imho so we ripped it off ,now i want to build a garage ,so mighty org ,would this be allowed
orginal was 7 foot by 6 foot by 8 foot (h) and attached to house


You may struggle with that Dave as although there was a structure there before (conservatory) if you build a garage there its blatantly a change of use.

A lot will depend on how your local council will view it though.

Give the planning or building regs office and say "I'm thinking of pulling down my conservatory and building a garage in XXX area, where do I stand in respect of planning and building regs etc".

They are usually quite helpful.

If they tell you its ok and you dont need planning etc, ask if they can send it to you in writing (just in case).

[Specialone]

hope op doesnt mind the hijack but here goes
my house had a conservitory on it when we bought it (on the side) it was too small imho so we ripped it off ,now i want to build a garage ,so mighty org ,would this be allowed
orginal was 7 foot by 6 foot by 8 foot (h) and attached to house


Again, mr preston, ring your bco, every case is different.

[Red Herring]

In the process of building a garage at my place. Some of the measurements that seemed to feature most during the planning stage were:
Is it more than 5m from the house, if yes then things are easier.
Had to be over 1m from the boundary, and not project in front of the house. Sounds like you might breach this one if you intent to tie into your neighbours...
If more than 50 cubic meters in size needs building regs....

I ended up getting some plans drawn up by a mate (they only needed to be basic), and submitted these along with a brief summary of what I was going to build it out of, things like wall material, type of roof etc, and then they send someone round at key stages to make sure I'm doing it right. This last bit is really useful as they do know what they are talking about and have given me loads of pointers.