Which K6 for me? 750 Gix or ZX10? [Archive] - SV650.org

Stu

10-01-10, 09:02 PM

both are similar money, similar miles. I trust the provenance of the Gix more, but surely the 10 is the better value?
One's Blue & White :cheers: the other Titanium :Boo:
but I guess it comes down to....

Which would make me more attractive to the opposite sex :p

fizzwheel

10-01-10, 09:03 PM

Can you get test ride of them back to back. Only way you are going to know which one you like best IMHO.

sarah

10-01-10, 09:03 PM

titanium sounds like grey (boring)

Red Herring

10-01-10, 09:07 PM

What are you going to do with it? Running around the UK and the occasional track day I'd pick the GSXR every time, if on the other hand you want an intercontinental ballistic missile for getting across Europe PDQ then the ZX10 starts to make sense. Do you want finesse or brute force?

Stu

10-01-10, 09:25 PM

titanium sounds like grey (boring)
No, it's more like Champagne
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009%5C06%5C24%5Cbikepics-1707549-full.jpg

TazDaz

10-01-10, 09:27 PM

I'd go the the kwaker if I were in your shoes.

Stu

10-01-10, 09:31 PM

Oopps apologies for size ^^^
Can you get test ride of them back to back. Only way you are going to know which one you like best IMHO.Have you seen outside? :lol:
I'm sure I would love either & would probablybuy without a test ride (as per all my other bikes to date)

What are you going to do with it? Running around the UK and the occasional track day I'd pick the GSXR every time, if on the other hand you want an intercontinental ballistic missile for getting across Europe PDQ then the ZX10 starts to make sense. Do you want finesse or brute force?Interesting. Thanks for the thought provoking question. Keep them coming:)

sarah

10-01-10, 09:49 PM

No, it's more like Champagne
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009%5C06%5C24%5Cbikepics-1707549-full.jpg

b.o.r.i.n.g.

Holdup

10-01-10, 10:23 PM

So is it a ZX10 or a ZX6 or are you just using the ZX6 for colour reference?

I really like the colour of that ZX6 and i plan on making one of them or the B1H my next bike and i would never have 2nd thoughts about having that colour

barwel1992

10-01-10, 10:32 PM

zx10 hands down :D

rictus01

10-01-10, 10:37 PM

That colour is a bit "plain Jane" for me, but I've ridden the 05 version and it's frighteningly awesome way more than anyone in their right mind needs, the GSXR will do everything you want and purely on the understanding that every biker should own at least once a proper GSXR (750) once, my vote would go for that.

Cheers Mark

Stu

10-01-10, 11:14 PM

b.o.r.i.n.g.:smt019:smt019:smt019

So is it a ZX10 or a ZX6 or are you just using the ZX6 for colour reference?

I really like the colour of that ZX6 and i plan on making one of them or the B1H my next bike and i would never have 2nd thoughts about having that colourI know it's a very big picture, but if you look hard, you should find a ZX10 in it as well :)
Thanks for your thoughts :thumbsup:

zx10 hands down :DCheers, I'm leaning that way too.

That colour is a bit "plain Jane" for me, meh, has it's advantages but I've ridden the 05 version and it's frighteningly awesome way more than anyone in their right mind needs, the GSXR will do everything you want and purely on the understanding that every biker should own at least once a proper GSXR (750) once, my vote would go for that.

Cheers Markwhy shouldn't every biker own something frighteningly awesome just once in their life? :smt102

Holdup

10-01-10, 11:41 PM

I know it's a very big picture, but if you look hard, you should find a ZX10 in it as well :)
Thanks for your thoughts :thumbsup:

Now you mention it your right there is, perhaps you shouldnt buy one, they are obviously very well camoflaged (sp) and you might lose it

#-o

Does look hawt tho :D and as said i wouldnt think twice about having one that colour unless there was a another bike in a different colour which was in better nick etc

rictus01

10-01-10, 11:50 PM

Plenty of bikes fit the "awesome" brief and to be honest it's a flip of a coin whether it's a R1, GXSR thou, ZX10, however none will ever be the Iconic Gixer, the 750 has and still does represent a very good balance between nimbleness and power.

Cheers Mark.

skyline

11-01-10, 01:07 AM

Myself, I'd be leaning toward the ZX10R, especially if its the first 2004/2005 version, its rapidly becoming a cult bike. I'd need to vastly improve my riding skills before I can do so though!

Possibly the last of the great modern Kwaks along with the B1H? There are tales of the bike tankslapping when gassing it out of roundabouts/junctions etc which have given the bike a headbanger reputation, spending a bit of time on setup makes it handle better.

If its the second generation one you're looking at, from what I remember a different size rear tyre at the back makes it handle better, and the front brakes need improving as well.

All the best with the decision, ZX10R vs GSXR750 is a nice problem to have! :thumleft:

STRAMASHER

11-01-10, 09:04 AM

ZX10R Vs. GSX-R750?

The Suzuki would not get a look in. The sensible choice as its probably a better road bike. The 10 is already a Kawa classic though. Its all about the engine for me. Big, gnarly and noisy thou' beats the "big-bored 600"

A green 04/05 is choice. Black and silver, 2nd and 3rd (but cheaper.)

Later ones got all bloaty, and those exhausts, even when Akra-ed (gave away for free to try and shift stock).....Unless you have a wheelbarrow fetish? (Each-to-their-own.;))

rictus01

11-01-10, 09:08 AM

"big-bored 600"

Hmmmmmm, timing a bit off there, isn't it?

STRAMASHER

11-01-10, 09:18 AM

Hmmmmmm, timing a bit off there, isn't it?
???
Help me.
I'm slow.
:)

andreis

11-01-10, 10:04 AM

meh, has it's advantages why shouldn't every biker own something frighteningly awesome just once in their life? :smt102

I'm personally scared of liter sport bikes.. just waaay too much power to actually use (anywhere other than a track.. and not even there).. I just don't have the skill to not be scared...

I'd go with the gixxer.. (p.s. can't wait to get to the "frighteningly awesome" part)

RichT

11-01-10, 10:29 AM

Hmmm - tough one.... GSXR

Nick_69

11-01-10, 10:35 AM

this is a very nice problem to have you our lucky. I would day myself the Gixer, i do love the zx10r but with a 750, you get most of the power but you also get the lighter bike so you can chuck it bout more

rictus01

11-01-10, 11:28 AM

???
Help me.
I'm slow.
:)

Model history, I think you'll find the GSXR 750 wasn't a sleeved or big bore anything, and the 1100 was the late comer, way before to new kids came about (600/1000).

Cheers Mark.

plowsie

11-01-10, 11:32 AM

Please tell me the K6 is the one with twin cans.

If so, twin Akros does it for me on that model everytime!

fastdruid

11-01-10, 11:37 AM

GSXR750 for me, I like corners more than straights. :)

Druid

rictus01

11-01-10, 11:45 AM

Please tell me the K6 is the one with twin cans.

If so, twin Akros does it for me on that model everytime!

Afraid not Stu, it's the single short boxy thing on those.

Cheers Mark

STRAMASHER

11-01-10, 11:47 AM

Model history, I think you'll find the GSXR 750 wasn't a sleeved or big bore anything, and the 1100 was the late comer, way before to new kids came about (600/1000).

Cheers Mark.

I stuck it in quotes cos I knew it was bespoke. :)
Thats just the feeling I get when I ride a mates K3. Thou's feel a big jump. Love torque.

I need my bike bore pedant points back........please?:p

plowsie

11-01-10, 11:50 AM

Afraid not Stu, it's the single short boxy thing on those.

Cheers Mark
Doh. I am no use.

rictus01

11-01-10, 11:53 AM

Ride an 88 750 against an 89 1100, one's a scalpel the others a hammer, even back then it was just about the perfect balance.

Cheers Mark.

Stig

11-01-10, 12:35 PM

I'd go for the kwak. No other reason than I like the look of it way much more than the Suzuki.

Stu

11-01-10, 12:36 PM

Later ones got all bloaty, and those exhausts, even when Akra-ed (gave away for free to try and shift stock).....Unless you have a wheelbarrow fetish? (Each-to-their-own.;))

Please tell me the K6 is the one with twin cans.

If so, twin Akros does it for me on that model everytime!

Afraid not Stu, it's the single short boxy thing on those.

Cheers Mark

Doh. I am no use.
Au contraire
Plowsie 1 Rictus Nil

the_lone_wolf

11-01-10, 12:48 PM

Stu, have you checked the insurance on a ZX10?

I seem to vaguely remember tales of it being phenomenally easy to break bits and phenomenally expensive to repair???

Stu

11-01-10, 12:59 PM

Stu, have you checked the insurance on a ZX10?

I seem to vaguely remember tales of it being phenomenally easy to break bits and phenomenally expensive to repair???
yeah , just now. seems to be £160 more over the Gixxer :neutral:

STRAMASHER

11-01-10, 01:04 PM

What you punting round on at the moment Stu?

Stu

11-01-10, 01:14 PM

Actual bikes
http://forums.sv650.org/[IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/stu369/zx10a.jpghttp://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/stu369/zx10a.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/stu369/DSCF00012.jpg

rictus01

11-01-10, 01:14 PM

Au contraire
Plowsie 1 Rictus Nil

Whilst I can't comment on the particular bike you're looking at, the standard was a single stubby can

http://www.motorbikestoday.com/reviews/Articles/suz_gsxr750_k6_road.htm

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Suzuki/Suzuki-GSXR750-2006---current-/

Cheers Mark.

Stu

11-01-10, 01:22 PM

What you punting round on at the moment Stu?
Passed my test 4 yrs ago now, had Bandit 600 for 6 mths, then a Pointy SV that I still have. Bought a ZX7R and had that as well for a year. Had my ZX6R G1 for the past 15 mths.
Usually do 10-15,000 miles a year commuting & social inc. a European trip or 2 and IAM observer.

Stu

11-01-10, 01:23 PM

Whilst I can't comment on the particular bike you're looking at, the standard was a single stubby can

http://www.motorbikestoday.com/reviews/Articles/suz_gsxr750_k6_road.htm

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Suzuki/Suzuki-GSXR750-2006---current-/

Cheers Mark.
No, Plowsie was talking about the ZX10

rictus01

11-01-10, 01:27 PM

Please tell me the K6 is the one with twin cans.

If so, twin Akros does it for me on that model everytime!

No, Plowsie was talking about the ZX10

You could be right Stu, but he didn't say .

STRAMASHER

11-01-10, 01:40 PM

Passed my test 4 yrs ago now, had Bandit 600 for 6 mths, then a Pointy SV that I still have. Bought a ZX7R and had that as well for a year. Had my ZX6R G1 for the past 15 mths.
Usually do 10-15,000 miles a year commuting & social inc. a European trip or 2 and IAM observer.

2suzukis & 2 kwacks.

A defining purchase for you then. ;):)

Who are ya,who are ya etc etc?!

injury_ian

11-01-10, 01:51 PM

GSX-R if it can't be a triumph... ;)

plowsie

11-01-10, 02:11 PM

You could be right Stu, but he didn't say .
Sorry, I was talking about the ZX10, my fault. I know that GSXR's only come with twin cans on the Thou models AFAIK.

Holdup

11-01-10, 02:19 PM

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/stu369/zx10a.jpg

:D nom nom nom, looks great

speedplay

11-01-10, 02:40 PM

Although the champagne on the zx10 is a sort of "non colour" it will have its advantages when it doesnt doesnt stick out like a sore thumb.

The gixxer is a great bike, no denying it, but I couldn't bring myself to get one and have to buy the matching shell suit...

Scoobs

11-01-10, 02:57 PM

GSXR750 for me, I like corners more than straights. :)

Druid

I had a go on my friends GSXR750 and was a bit underwhelmed. It was a short ride, but I was expecting more from it and I couldn't get it into corners. I don't know if the steering is damped or has adjustable damping (2008 model) but it was horrible.

I'd go for the kwak. No other reason than I like the look of it way much more than the Suzuki.

Ditto, plus a litre sports bike at least once in your life has to be done.

wattyfred89

11-01-10, 04:26 PM

ye the kwak looks good but the gixer is the one that i would go for

fizzwheel

11-01-10, 04:32 PM

I had a go on my friends GSXR750 and was a bit underwhelmed. It was a short ride, but I was expecting more from it and I couldn't get it into corners. I don't know if the steering is damped or has adjustable damping (2008 model) but it was horrible..

Thats weird, my K5 tips in realyl quickly. Mine has a damper on it but I dont really notice its there. the K6 600 I rode was the same, I dont know about the damper on your mates, but I wander if that was setup problem or seperate issue with it ?

Scoobs

11-01-10, 04:46 PM

Thats weird, my K5 tips in realyl quickly. Mine has a damper on it but I dont really notice its there. the K6 600 I rode was the same, I dont know about the damper on your mates, but I wander if that was setup problem or seperate issue with it ?

....or maybe Gixxers are just shoite. :wink:

I'll reserve judgement until I've tried another though mate. I was comparing it with my CBR which lived for corners.

fastdruid

11-01-10, 04:51 PM

I had a go on my friends GSXR750 and was a bit underwhelmed. It was a short ride, but I was expecting more from it and I couldn't get it into corners. I don't know if the steering is damped or has adjustable damping (2008 model) but it was horrible.

Could just be the setup of that one, I rode a 748 once and hated it, then found out later the forks were setup very very badly. Unfortunately I've yet to try another one but because I know it was just the setup of that one bike I'm reserving judgement until I get to try another.

The GSXR750 is one of the very few bikes I've run into that has actually been faster than my SV mid-corner[1].

Druid

[1] Others are RS125 and er a different RS125

Stu

11-01-10, 04:56 PM

I really like the colour

i wouldnt think twice about having one that colour

:D nom nom nom, looks great
No matter how many times you say it, you only get one vote. ;)

Mej

11-01-10, 04:57 PM

i vote gixxer, just somethig about the 750 that i love.

neio79

11-01-10, 06:33 PM

....or maybe Gixxers are just shoite. :wink:
.

Nail on head there!!

Gixxer = japaneese for FUGLY

my girlfriend has a K6 600 and i TBH i think it is one of the ugliest bikes ever made, and i found the riding position a bit wierd.

the 10R of that year is meant to be awsome , and looks a million times better.

Holdup

11-01-10, 08:16 PM

No matter how many times you say it, you only get one vote. ;)

What if i said i wasnt Holdup but Holdups evil twin brother?

No?

Ok :(

fatneck

11-01-10, 11:23 PM

Do not buy either of them without riding them first for gawdsake !!!

Stu

12-01-10, 12:02 AM

Do not buy either of them without riding them first for gawdsake !!!
Why? :confused:

21QUEST

12-01-10, 12:09 AM

Why? :confused:
Good question :D ...test rides are over rated :p .

Congrats in advance Stu ;)

Cheers
Ben

Red Herring

12-01-10, 05:15 AM

Buy the most expensive one, if you don't like it then sell it and get the other one! You only live once!

yorkie_chris

12-01-10, 03:19 PM

Big, gnarly and noisy thou' beats the "big-bored 600"

Pah 600 is a sleeved down 750 not other way around.

Ride an 88 750 against an 89 1100, one's a scalpel the others a hammer, even back then it was just about the perfect balance.

I like that comparison lol

Could just be the setup of that one, I rode a 748 once and hated it, then found out later the forks were setup very very badly.

Amazing how a sufficient retard can turn a decent bike into a heap!

Tim in Belgium

12-01-10, 09:15 PM

750 IMHO FTMFW but I'm a tad biased :D

And yes they hate corners ;)

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/45020/2398978090084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2398978090084392296TjCbCF)

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/44084/2063170350084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2063170350084392296UEXOxV)

http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/8153/2720107040084392296S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2720107040084392296OPlonw)

Apologies for photo wh0r1ing.

Stu

12-01-10, 09:29 PM

Apologies for photo wh0r1ing.
none needed :) (:smt039 back at top photo)
But it's not looking good for your camp.
If the ZX weighs 170 dry, (750 = 163, SV = 171) why would it not be able to corner?

yorkie_chris

12-01-10, 11:47 PM

Tyre size, weight distribution, harsh rear shock/linkage, fork setup. Especially pertinent to SV would be height of CoG.

All just possibilities though. Some kwak had a reputation for a mentally harsh shock, not sure whether that included the 10 or just the 6

Red Herring

13-01-10, 05:16 AM

I think it's fair to say that the GSXR works straight out of the box, but I've yet to ride a ZX10 that worked as standard. I don't think you should let that put you off though. Given the sort of money you're looking at spending it's not that big a deal to get the suspension altered to suit you and considering the level of performance we're talking about it would be a shame not to be able to appreciate it.

Mej

13-01-10, 10:27 AM

Buy the most expensive one, if you don't like it then sell it and get the other one! You only live once!

i like this idea!!

yorkie_chris

13-01-10, 01:03 PM

Zombie Jesus

13-01-10, 01:52 PM

The 750 IS the better bike. Unless you want a thou, but then there are better bikes out there in that capacity.

Stu

13-01-10, 02:36 PM

The 750 IS the better bike. Unless you want a thou, but then there are better bikes out there in that capacity.
So you woul be willing to spend more money on a 750 than a ZX10 (all things being equal) :shock:
What's wrong with the ZX out of the 1000's? OK the Fireblade is probably the most technologically advanced (not sure if that applies to the '06) anyway it's more about personal preference, looks & brand loyalty.
Searching 'litre bikes 2006 group test' this is one of the first sensible results http://www.wheels24.co.za/Content/BikesQuads/RoadTests/72/a2430e049a1f4a368160b3fd65e0f4b3/19-07-2006%2008-07/Kawas_reborn_hooligan.

I'm just choosing between 2 individual bikes that I have been offered off market - so hopefully they are cheap but I don't have the whole market to choose from and expect to get as good a deal.

Zombie Jesus

13-01-10, 04:10 PM

So you woul be willing to spend more money on a 750 than a ZX10 (all things being equal) :shock:

yep,

I test rode both before buying in jan 2007 and was offered 7k for either 2006 models. They were the only two bikes > 600cc I could get reasonable insurance quotes for. To be honest I would have went for the zx if insurance was 30/40% lower than the 750. I'd probably have the 10 over a '06 fireblade anyway.

Stu

13-01-10, 10:11 PM

So was that decision made purely on test ride, or do you have an inherent preference for the Gixxer?
As I have an inherent preference for the ZX and doubt I'll test ride either. I doubt I would be disappointed with the ZX, and can always sell it in the summer if I am.

rictus01

13-01-10, 10:34 PM

It's easy Stu, buy the ZX to impress others, or the GSXR to impress yourself, simple choice.....;)

Cheers Mark.

Tim in Belgium

14-01-10, 07:55 AM

The ZX is beige/old man gold. Say no more.

Treacle

14-01-10, 10:34 AM

It's easy Stu, buy the ZX to impress others, or the GSXR to impress yourself, simple choice.....;)

Cheers Mark.

lmfao

Stu, have you thought about a superduke?
Just a thought.

Cheers Matt