Paddock Stand Bobbins - probably a silly question

[appollo1]

Ok this is probably a really silly question but are the bobbins the same ones you use front and rear?

[Sid Squid]

Which front bobbins are you referring to?
Do you mean the crash bobbins fitted through a hollow spindle?

[appollo1]

erm - crash bobbins????


are they not the same a paddock stand bobbins

[Sid Squid]

No, not necessarily.

There are some rear crash bungs, ie for the swingarm, that are also intended as bobbins for use with a paddock stand.

I've never seen front crash bobbins that are also intended as stand bobbins, (ordinarily these are fitted with a long stud that passes right through the front wheel spindle, which obviously will need to be hollow, and which the SV650 hasn't got).
There are some front stands that use a bracket that fits to the spindle clamps, (which also wouldn't suit the SV650 as there's only a clamp on one side), but they're not the most commonly found variety, and I haven't seen one for some time.
The most common type of front stand does not require bobbins or brackets but lifts the bike under the end of the fork legs.

[appollo1]

No, not necessarily.

There are some rear crash bungs, ie for the swingarm, that are also intended as bobbins for use with a paddock stand.

I've never seen front crash bobbins that are also intended as stand bobbins, (ordinarily these are fitted with a long stud that passes right through the front wheel spindle, which obviously will need to be hollow, and which the SV650 hasn't got).
There are some front stands that use a bracket that fits to the spindle clamps, (which also wouldn't suit the SV650 as there's only a clamp on one side), but they're not the most commonly found variety, and I haven't seen one for some time.
The most common type of front stand does not require bobbins or brackets but lifts the bike under the end of the fork legs.


end of the fork legs it is then thanks very much SS

[yorkie_chris]

Those that fit into the hole under the headstock seem much more solid.

[appollo1]

more confused now YC

ok you can screw paddock stand bobbins into the holes on the rear swingarm


but

there are the same holes at the front forks so i was wondering if you could use the same sort of bobbins that you put on the rear onto the front.

does that make more sense?

[speedplay]

more confused now YC

ok you can screw paddock stand bobbins into the holes on the rear swingarm


but

there are the same holes at the front forks so i was wondering if you could use the same sort of bobbins that you put on the rear onto the front.

does that make more sense?


I think YC is referring to the paddock stand that slots into the fork crown.

The front sliders/bobbins I have seen go on a threaded bar through the spindle of the front wheel and I dont think they are for lifting with.

HTH

[Sid Squid]

there are the same holes at the front forks so i was wondering if you could use the same sort of bobbins that you put on the rear onto the front.

does that make more sense?
Which holes are you referring to?

[appollo1]

Which holes are you referring to?

i'll get pics tomorrow and post them on here

[craigs23]

The small M8 (or so) holes pre-drilled onto modern bikes' swingarms are usually for paddock stands. They are small bobbins designed to fit into the cups on universal stands. Little to do with crash protection, as I'd hazard a guess that other parts of the bike (exhaust, clipons, fairings, etc) will touch down first in a spill.

The larger items fitted to the front axle are for crash protection - most likely to stop your fork bottoms/axle nuts getting knarled up in a spill.

[DavieSV]

They are small bobbins designed to fit into the cups on universal stands. Little to do with crash protection, as I'd hazard a guess that other parts of the bike (exhaust, clipons, fairings, etc) will touch down first in a spill.


When I was getting up after my spill on the cat & fiddle, my bike was still spinning in circles touching down on only the crash bobbins, bar end sliders and paddock stand sliders.

The only other marks on it was small scuffs to LH mirror & clutch lever end and the gear lever snapped.

so the swing arm sliders do work :cool:

[yorkie_chris]

Actually the combined crash mushrooms/paddock bobbins you can get from motoslider do touch down in a crash. Don't think the normal bobbins would do anything though.

[DavieSV]

but there just poor alternative to the ones I had on ;)