Not sparking

[Flameboy]

Ive had the front plug out and held it up to the engine case while trying to start my bike and as far as i can tell it's not sparking.

I'm told it could be the regulator rectifier but after a look around the forums i have only found threads for curvys and i ride a k3 pointy

how do i test the reg rec to see if that's the problem? if not what else could be causing the spark plugs not to spark?

battery fully charged and all fuses are fine, along with 2 new spark plugs

[Spanner Man]

Good afternoon.


Providing your battery is fully charged, I doubt that a failure of the Rec/reg unit would cause a loss of spark.

Check all the connections on the ignition system, namely at the ignitor, ignition switch, handlebar switches & pick up coils, also check the side stand & clutch switch connectors.

If you can obtain a multi meter check to see that you have battery voltage at the coils.


Cheers.

[Flameboy]

Good afternoon.


Providing your battery is fully charged, I doubt that a failure of the Rec/reg unit would cause a loss of spark.

Check all the connections on the ignition system, namely at the ignitor, ignition switch, handlebar switches & pick up coils, also check the side stand & clutch switch connectors.

If you can obtain a multi meter check to see that you have battery voltage at the coils.


Cheers.

I don't think it could be the side stand or the clutch switch as the engine turns over?

[sunshine]

Check your plug cap is on correctly first. then work you way round the circuit looking for a damged cable or loose connection.

[ridelikeaturtle]

If you've got an immobilizer/alarm on the bike, make sure that's correctly disabled. I've had an alarm go bust and I had to completely remove it from the bike to get it started, as the immobilizer was on all the time.

[Flameboy]

If you've got an immobilizer/alarm on the bike, make sure that's correctly disabled. I've had an alarm go bust and I had to completely remove it from the bike to get it started, as the immobilizer was on all the time.

No immobilizer or alarm :(

[Flameboy]

Good afternoon.

Check all the connections on the ignition system, namely at the ignitor, ignition switch, handlebar switches & pick up coils, also check the side stand & clutch switch connectors.



but that would effect both of them simultaneously? these died 200meters apart

[Spanner Man]

but that would effect both of them simultaneously? these died 200meters apart


Don't rule anything out! Bypass anything that could affect the spark sidestand switches included.

If both cylinders died 200 yards apart, then it's likely that the ignitor or pick up coils are at fault.


Cheers.

[Flameboy]

Don't rule anything out! Bypass anything that could affect the spark sidestand switches included.

If both cylinders died 200 yards apart, then it's likely that the ignitor or pick up coils are at fault.


Cheers.

I've managed to get it down to the ignition coils but i cant see a way of getting to them easily, had the tank off but i don't want to go further down because i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing. This is going to end up a garage job unless anyone can offer some assistance :(

[sunshine]

if its the coils i can swap them for a new one just wait until i get my bike sorted first.

[Flameboy]

if its the coils i can swap them for a new one just wait until i get my bike sorted first.

If i got a pair sorted out would you be willing to come over and fit them for petrol and beer money? :drink:

[sunshine]

well if you read my thread about my forks we will see what happens tomorrow and see when the bike will be rolling again, but are you sure its the coils and nothing else? last time i had to buy a coil it was expensive.

[Flameboy]

well if you read my thread about my forks we will see what happens tomorrow and see when the bike will be rolling again, but are you sure its the coils and nothing else? last time i had to buy a coil it was expensive.

I've seen a pair on ebay for £45 with 800 miles on them, I think basically i've narrowed it down to the coils - i've changed the spark plugs and tested them, no spark (full battery) checked all the fuses ect. Put the bike back together earlier and tried to start, had a back fire. And from what i've gathered if the coils are broken some power could still get through as they're so tightly coiled? but not enough to do anything?

If it is that then the power's getting to the coils. I had planned to test the circuit today but i couldn't get anywhere near the coil.

But i could be missing allot of things as my knowledge of this only started 2 days ago.

Cheers

[sunshine]

i will look for my multi meter unless you have one and see if i can get the bike ready for one of the afternoon's this week. im thinking thursday or friday have a look see whats knacked then i can explain how to replace it (hopefully).

[Flameboy]

i will look for my multi meter unless you have one and see if i can get the bike ready for one of the afternoon's this week. im thinking thursday or friday have a look see whats knacked then i can explain how to replace it (hopefully).

a friend of mine has a multi meter i can borrow, that's not a problem. Thursday afternoon would be better for me, Friday I'm working from 4 onwards. I wont order anything till you've had a look then.

I'll just pm you my contact number, Cheers.

[Spanner Man]

I've managed to get it down to the ignition coils but i cant see a way of getting to them easily, had the tank off but i don't want to go further down because i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing. This is going to end up a garage job unless anyone can offer some assistance :(


Good morning.


It's unlikely that both coils would fail within the time frame you mentioned, unless there was an ignitor or wiring problem.
As I said before, have you checked to see if battery voltage is present on the orange & white wires that feed each coil? This voltage comes from the ignition unit, therefore a problem with the unit, or a wiring issue in between could cause the problem you describe.


Cheers.