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timwilky
18-01-10, 01:47 PM
Todays tip
When you borrow a works digital camera for your weekend of naughtiness with a partner that is not your husband.
format the media before you return it.;)
Oh the blackmail potential
yorkie_chris
18-01-10, 01:49 PM
Thread...worthless...pics. (if she's tasty)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/lpski1/Misc%20Gifs/worthless_thread_wo_pics.gif
oh my god, gutted...guessing this is a woman you work with?
lmao
timwilky
18-01-10, 01:51 PM
She was given the camera back and recommended to format the media so evidence gone.
Tasty no. Would I? Of course not I am happily married
_Stretchie_
18-01-10, 02:27 PM
So then Mr Wilky, lets just say that it was not only you that witnessed this atrocity.
And that a younger, less gentlemanly work mate saw this with you, assuming HE took a copy and saved it before you had the chance to hand it back.... If e-mail address were sent to you could you make sure that HE forwarded some of them on..
:smt047
Filipe M.
18-01-10, 02:47 PM
She was given the camera back and recommended to format the media so evidence gone.
Low level or just quick format? :p
wyrdness
18-01-10, 03:21 PM
Tasty no. Would I? Of course not I am happily married
Tim, you'll lose your grumpy-old-git cred if you go about describing yourself as 'happily married'.
So, let me get this right? She had deleted the images, but you were still able to recover them? :shock:
(if she's tasty)
She obviously the most skankiest of all wh0res if she's cheating on her husband.
wyrdness
18-01-10, 03:41 PM
So, let me get this right? She had deleted the images, but you were still able to recover them? :shock:
Go back and read again, more carefully this time. You could try running your finger along the text as you read it, if that helps.
_Stretchie_
18-01-10, 04:06 PM
Go back and read again, more carefully this time. You could try running your finger along the text as you read it, if that helps.
That reminds me of my school days
Warthog
18-01-10, 04:09 PM
Go back and read again, more carefully this time. You could try running your finger along the text as you read it, if that helps.
Tim's OP said "format" the disk, so I think Stu is wondering whether she forgot to delete them, or just deleted them but not formatted it so they were recoverable?
Tim's OP said "format" the disk, so I think Stu is wondering whether she ...deleted them but not formatted it so they were recoverable?
that
That reminds me of my school days
Ah..... now I understand. Thought that the post was referring to some sort of magic "braille screen".
I can be a bit thick sometimes.
Dave20046
18-01-10, 06:01 PM
So, let me get this right? She had deleted the images, but you were still able to recover them? :shock:
:-kWas just thinking this, did you do a bit of techy detective work Tim? :D
wyrdness
18-01-10, 07:12 PM
Tim's OP said "format" the disk, so I think Stu is wondering whether she forgot to delete them, or just deleted them but not formatted it so they were recoverable?
*bangs head against wall*
What Tim said, in a nutshell, was his tip of the day was to format the disk before handing it back with incriminating pics on. Because she obviously didn't. She was then given the camera back and told to format the disk. End of story.
I don't understand why this is confusing people.
I read it as Tim got the camera with photos of nakedness. And handed it back to the woman so she could delete and format the camera memory card.
I would have made a copy first just in case she backed stabbed you or someone you knew, Just as an insurance policy... ;-)
*bangs head against wall*
What Tim said, in a nutshell, was his tip of the day was to format the disk before handing it back with incriminating pics on. Because she obviously didn't. She was then given the camera back and told to format the disk. End of story.
I don't understand why this is confusing people.
Maybe because Tim still hasn't explained if she deleted the photos off the card or not.
Maybe I watch too much TV, but AFAIK after you have deleted electronic data it can still be retrieved if you know how.
Dave20046
18-01-10, 08:14 PM
Maybe because Tim still hasn't explained if she deleted the photos off the card or not.
Maybe I watch too much TV, but AFAIK after you have deleted electronic data it can still be retrieved if you know how.
Sure tim'll clear this up to, but that was my thinking. 'Deleting' files off media means nothing they're still there, I thought tim meant he'd recovered the files out of curiosity/snoopyness/blackmail material requirements and then given it back to her recommending a format so she knows he knows!
Red Herring
18-01-10, 08:36 PM
I don't understand why this is confusing people.
Probably because others are like me and haven't got a clue what he means by "format". Personally if I was ever stupid enough to borrow a camera, and then stupid enough to have an affair, and then even more stupid enough to take photos of it.....then I'd probably also be stupid enough to not know how to "format" something....
I guess I must be stupid!
'Deleting' files off media means nothing they're still there
That's my understanding. "Deleting" files means that they are tagged as available to be overwritten. They remain on the media until the media is formatted or the OS choses to overwrite the tagged files.
Am I wrong?
Filipe M.
18-01-10, 08:41 PM
That's my understanding. "Deleting" files means that they are tagged as available to be overwritten. They remain on the media until the media is formatted or the OS choses to overwrite the tagged files.
Am I wrong?
Nope, and even a quick format won't do anything to them expect wiping the record that says where in the disk those files were stored, effectively marking the disk as clean even though the files are still there and recoverable. Only a low-level format will erase them (by overwriting them with blank data), and even then they might still be recoverable by specialised forensics software.
Glad I'm not alone then :D
To return the camera without deleting the pictures would be foolish, but not many people would know to format it -and even Phillypie is on about different forms of formating :roll:
Go back and read again, more carefully this time. You could try running your finger along the text as you read it, if that helps.
You feeling foolish yet? ;)
I'm the keeper of the digital camera at my place...I keep hoping something like this would happen just for the level of banter which would happen afterwards, but alas all I get is pictures of roundabouts and traffic lights! :(
I would have at least sent one around the office saying something like "where's wally!"
timwilky
18-01-10, 08:52 PM
She has simply run the media format on the camera. I guess this would leave the files behind if I had something that would read the flash card as if it were a disk. No I do not wish to get them. I will probably give her the card and tell her to destroy it.
For my own personal PC I use eraser. I am advised that it should stop those pesky feds snooping with 7 times overwrite etc.
She has simply run the media format on the camera. I guess this would leave the files behind if I had something that would read the flash card as if it were a disk. No I do not wish to get them. I will probably give her the card and tell her to destroy it.
I don't get it :???: so she had deleted all the pictures and done a basic format of the card.
So how do you know there was anything incriminating on it? :confused:
Kilted Ginger
18-01-10, 09:53 PM
I don't get it :???: so she had deleted all the pictures and done a basic format of the card.
So how do you know there was anything incriminating on it? :confused:
because she only did this after he returned the camera to her AND TOLD HER TO FORMAT IT... ie she returned the camera with all pictures still on card in first place.
Clear:salut:
MattCollins
19-01-10, 02:58 AM
For my own personal PC I use eraser. I am advised that it should stop those pesky feds snooping with 7 times overwrite etc.
Ah Windows... Once with pseudo random data is enough unless feds are willing to tie up millions in resources for a year to recover erased files and even the there are no guarantees that they'll get it. They have a better chance of breaking an encrypted drive.
Windows tends to spray bits of everything everywhere in a zillion files in the stupidest places and it is almost impossible to contain it all and Eraser won't touch a lot of it - that is where they'll bite you.
There are two choices with electronic devices. 1 - Don't do anything illegal or embarrassing with them, or... 2 - If you do, become damned good at hiding or disposing of the evidence.
Windows format (talking standard, not quick) does not overwrite the media with zeros. This can be verified with " hexdump -C /dev/sd<disk_letter> " in your favourite Linux distro (after formatting in Windows) or whatever Windows tool can directly access the media. All of the data is still there. Tools like Eraser or dd (Linux) are needed for zeroing media.
Tim, lots of fun can be had even if they did format the media. :smt077
EDIT: Whoops... didn't realise I was talking to an IT geek... my bad
BanannaMan
19-01-10, 04:45 AM
Tim, lots of fun can be had even if they did format the media.
So Tim, Can Matt borrow your camera next?????
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