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Damian
08-02-10, 06:38 PM
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When VAT was temporarily reduced to 15%, the Chancellor added 2% duty to fuel to offset the reduction in tax collected from motorists. Now that VAT has been increased to 17.5% again this hidden tax has not been removed - hence recent rises in your fuel costs. Sign the petition at the link below to have this stealth tax removed!
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/DutyReduction/ (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/DutyReduction/)

MattCollins
08-02-10, 06:44 PM
You should know better... Once something has got a tax on it, it is damned hard to get it removed unless there is an election looming.

Messie
08-02-10, 06:47 PM
Is this true? Can anyone point me in the direction of the evidence that 2% was added to the cost of fuel when VAT was reduced last january?

the_lone_wolf
08-02-10, 06:51 PM
Is this true? Can anyone point me in the direction of the evidence that 2% was added to the cost of fuel when VAT was reduced last january?

It's true Messie, well documented

You didn't think they'd let an opportunity to stick the knife a little further like this slip away did you?

Messie
08-02-10, 06:59 PM
I just like to look at all the stuff from all angles before I decide lol

the_lone_wolf
08-02-10, 07:03 PM
I just like to look at all the stuff from all angles before I decide lol

Yeah, normally I insta-delete anything that says "you have to email this to everyone you know" but this is actually true

Not that the online petition will make any difference, Winky Mc-****nut promised to freeze fuel duty for a year and put it up twice, this'll be the 3rd time - all we'll get is some mumbled BS about how we have to encourage people to not use their cars etc etc blah blah blaaaaah

Nice bit of domestic terrorism is what we need, blow up a few government buildings, why should the religious nutjobs have a monopoly on that sort of thing???

Oh... Erm... That was out loud wasn't it??8-[

Messie
08-02-10, 07:07 PM
LOL yes it was dear.

camomile tea maybe?

the_lone_wolf
08-02-10, 07:10 PM
LOL yes it was dear.

camomile tea maybe?

Rooibos with vanilla please:cool:

And a block of C48-[

Specialone
08-02-10, 07:14 PM
While on about fuel duty, prices are not relative to barrel prices.
When the cost of crude went through the roof, pertrol prices went up to record levels, now they have settled down again they are no where near the prices for they were when the barrel price was similar, even without the duty taken into account.
We are being shafted L/R and centre and becasue we stand for it, they keep doing it.
Remember also, every time the price goes up due to market increases, one eye gets more duty to waste, win win everytime.
Makes me so f**king angry.

Messie
08-02-10, 07:19 PM
LOL yes it was dear.

camomile tea maybe?

Rooibos with vanilla please:cool:

And a block of C48-[

Bless. Mwah!

While on about fuel duty, prices are not relative to barrel prices.
When the cost of crude went through the roof, pertrol prices went up to record levels, now they have settled down again they are no where near the prices for they were when the barrel price was similar, even without the duty taken into account.
We are being shafted L/R and centre and becasue we stand for it, they keep doing it.
Remember also, every time the price goes up due to market increases, one eye gets more duty to waste, win win everytime.
Makes me so f**king angry.

Although I agree in many ways, and there is a % increase in duty, it seems to me that the oil companies are just raking it in when the cost per barrel goes down again after a big hike?

Specialone
08-02-10, 07:21 PM
Although I agree in many ways, and there is a % increase in duty, it seems to me that the oil companies are just raking it in when the cost per barrel goes down again after a big hike?


I agree, they control the market, price low, they slow down production, price high, they speed it up. which do you think they do more of ???

the_lone_wolf
08-02-10, 07:23 PM
Although I agree in many ways, and there is a % increase in duty, it seems to me that the oil companies are just raking it in when the cost per barrel goes down again after a big hike?
The oil companies are struggling


Poor dears are down to making only ~£1 million...


...per hour...:rolleyes:

Damian
08-02-10, 07:49 PM
The oil companies are struggling


Poor dears are down to making only ~£1 million...


...per hour...:rolleyes:
love it made me lol

makes you think on what other stuff they put up but not down. i wonder how much we can take. tax tax tax,:-x:-x

Specialone
08-02-10, 07:59 PM
love it made me lol

makes you think on what other stuff they put up but not down. i wonder how much we can take. tax tax tax,:-x:-x

The way i feel tonight, i wanna start a f**king revolution.
Action gets you more results than words, im in if anybody wants to.

Damian
08-02-10, 08:19 PM
The way i feel tonight, i wanna start a f**king revolution.
Action gets you more results than words, im in if anybody wants to.


What you thinking of:rolleyes:

the_lone_wolf
08-02-10, 08:33 PM
Hmm, I'm really more of a "Lone psycho killer" than a "Terrorist Cell" kind of guy, plus I can be grumpy in the mornings so you guys may want to go ahead without me...

I wonder how many CIA/MI5 pings the org is getting tonight?:mrgreen:

Grant66
08-02-10, 09:15 PM
The extra duty is needed to pay for the MPs wage increase to offset only being able to claim genuine expenses.

Specialone
08-02-10, 10:02 PM
What you thinking of:rolleyes:
Nothing illegal ;)
I know one thing, the petrol price protests in 2000 resulted in stable prices for over 1 year, funny that, especially when blair said it wouldnt have any effect on their policies etc.
Mass demonstration is a start i think, maybe mass rideout resulting in a blockade of the more greedy fuel providers.
MCN did it with the reclaim north wales thingy, albeit not sure of their results.