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Grant66
08-02-10, 09:31 PM
I installed an "evaluation" copy of windows 7 last september, to errr evaluate if it was any better than XP. Was quite impressed with it actually apart from the sound card doesn't work with it, so won't be upgrading but would have it on the new laptop when I get round to buying one.

Just booted the PC into the 7 partition by accident tonight and its still working :) it tells me every half hour or so that I don't have a genuine copy.

I'm assuming that at some point it will not let me use it anymore, i.e. not go past logon without activating. Anyone know how long before it does that? Had a google & couldn't find anything relevant.

punyXpress
08-02-10, 09:40 PM
Disconnect from web
Alter system date to when you installed W7
Repeat as necessary ? :rolleyes:

tigersaw
08-02-10, 09:45 PM
you could 'rearm' it and get another trial

see http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/extend-the-windows-7-trial-from-30-to-120-days/

fizzwheel
08-02-10, 10:12 PM
Was quite impressed with it actually apart from the sound card doesn't work with it

I suspect you'll find that if you bought the full version and got off that eval copy, that your soundcard will more than likely work...

Filipe M.
08-02-10, 10:29 PM
I suspect you'll find that if you bought the full version and got off that eval copy, that your soundcard will more than likely work...

I'd be really surprised if that was the case. I know Microsoft's marketing isn't known for being particularly bright, but I seriously doubt they would break sound functionality on an evaluation copy of an OS they are also trying to sell to the multimedia / home entertainment market. Without any further information, I'd hazard a guess that it's just unsupported hardware and lack of drivers. If that is the case, and if you're comfortable doing it, just download the drivers for the last Windows version you find available (might be XP) and try forcing an install. You might be surprised*...



*I did this with a Soundblaster Live! 5.1. Theoretically unsupported on Vista and 7, I tried running the setup program just the same. As expected, it failed the first time. Then, unexpectedly, a window pops up asking if I want Windows to try and run the thingy in compatibility mode or whatever you want to call it. Restart, and waddayaknow, I was greeted by the Windows system start sound. Game Port doesn't work, but in 10 years I've had PCs I've never used one, so couldn't really care much less. YMMV, though.

fizzwheel
08-02-10, 10:34 PM
Without any further information, I'd hazard a guess that it's just unsupported hardware and lack of drivers.

I reckon your probably right, but I've had this kind of trouble with MS Eval producs before. Especially beta releases...

beabert
08-02-10, 10:36 PM
I think what he is getting at is windows update will install the neccesary drivers if it is a genuine authenticated copy.

As an example

When i installed windows 7 my gpu was unsupported. Dell have not realised the driver for windows 7 and ATI dont have one. The vista driver wouldnt install even when modified it and installed i got blue screens, so i was stuck, then windows update informed me they had an update for my card and now its perfectly

Filipe M.
08-02-10, 10:40 PM
I reckon your probably right, but I've had this kind of trouble with MS Eval producs before. Especially beta releases...

Fair enough, I wasn't thinking beta but yes, that's a whole different can of worms. :shaking:


I think what he is getting at is windows update will install the neccesary drivers if it is a genuine authenticated copy.

As an example

When i installed windows 7 my gpu was unsupported. Dell have not realised the driver for windows 7 and ATI dont have one. The vista driver wouldnt install even when modified it and installed i got blue screens, so i was stuck, then windows update informed me they had an update for my card and now its perfectly

Different situations I guess, Windows can't install what doesn't exist in the first place (even though it'll try every now and again! :lol: ). In your case I'd bet it was a coincidence the driver got released at the right time... hopefully! ;)

beabert
08-02-10, 10:53 PM
Fair enough, I wasn't thinking beta but yes, that's a whole different can of worms. :shaking:




Different situations I guess, Windows can't install what doesn't exist in the first place (even though it'll try every now and again! :lol: ). In your case I'd bet it was a coincidence the driver got released at the right time... hopefully! ;)

Nope my driver is still not avaliable from dell (inspiron 6400), i can only assume so many people were moaning microsoft themselves supported it.

Whats sound card have you got?

Grant66
08-02-10, 10:54 PM
Interestingly it is a Soundblaster Live 5.1 card that isn't working, tried the XP drivers a few times following all the instructions I could find & nothing worked. The Creative install pack wouldn't even recognize there was a card in there. Even tried the project KX drivers which are supposed to work on Vista & it sort of worked but sounded carp.

Anyway, just extended the trial for another 30 days. All the windows updates are supposed to be available during the trial, but to be honest even if it installs a driver that works I'm not going to buy a license for this machine. Mrs's laptop had Vista and that was just slooooow, its now got XP and is loads better. So might try 7 on that as she is missing her gadgets.

beabert
08-02-10, 11:03 PM
I detest the creative support/driver website, its a sham (Or was) Had to find a list that was hidden in their website that showed what model numbers corresponded to what model names and drivers.

I was gonna suggest Kx but you have already tried :-(

Grant66
08-02-10, 11:19 PM
Hidden list! Didn't find that, took me long enough to find the drivers for the live external and thats still supported :) Do you have a link to this list?

beabert
08-02-10, 11:24 PM
Hidden list! Didn't find that, took me long enough to find the drivers for the live external and thats still supported :) Do you have a link to this list?

See lol, blood awful website, ill go look for it for you, i expect ill be cursing the screen. Lets see how long it takes me....

beabert
08-02-10, 11:29 PM
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?url=http://203.211.142.197:80/srvs/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe/,/%3fst=46,e=0000000001019600030,k=2487,sxi=1,case=o bj%2810846%29,kb=ww_english_add,varset=ws:http://uk.europe.creative.com

Thats it in a different format, they need to make is more prominant.

Get a nice m-audio audiophile, drivers are easier to find lol.

Grant66
08-02-10, 11:48 PM
Thanks for that, I'll give it a go tomorrow & see if I can get it working :)

flymo
09-02-10, 07:44 PM
Best way to check for compatibility before you start is to use the Windows 7 upgrade advisor available here (http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx)

It will scan your hardware and software and let you know what is supported natively and what isnt, very handy.

TheOnlyNemesis
09-02-10, 08:55 PM
download crack, fox soundcard, sorted