View Full Version : Are younger people lame?
CheGuevara
05-03-10, 11:11 PM
Ok a bit of background. Please keep in mind this is just for fun - I love my wife and wouldn't change her for anything -just a minor dig at her inability to stay awake longer than her Nan.
1) I turn 40 this year. My 24yo (turning 25, yes I rock!) wife should manage to stay awake past 9pm on weekends.
2) Her job in a childcare/family centre is really difficult (baby massage and setting out cookies) and 9pm on a friday night for a hard working 24yo is a stretch. Old bastids like me should try and understand the pressures of a younger generation :)
As I said, just for fun, so when she wakes up I have some ammo to tease further with. No need for any harsh or overly rude comments in either direction -my wife is a lovely woman who does much for all of the people in her life. She deserves no abuse whatsoever. I should be half as decent as she is.
wyrdness
05-03-10, 11:15 PM
Mrs Wyrdness is exactly the same. These 20 somethings really can't keep up with us 40 somethings.
dizzyblonde
05-03-10, 11:15 PM
I love Peg to bits, but he has an ability of falling asleep at 10.20pm precisely, I watch the kitchen clock, low and behold his eyes start rolling.
Its ok, I don't mind, but its just hes dead old:lol:
CheGuevara
05-03-10, 11:22 PM
Haha love the replys so far. She makes me watch House and Grey's Anatomy and similar crap TV (as TV is in general, which is crappy), but can't stay awake for her own shows!
At least we can stay awake for Deal or No Deal which is our guilty pleasure :) Mrs G has even signed up as a potential contestant, although I know she'll deal at anything over £15k!!
fastdruid
05-03-10, 11:28 PM
Some people are early birds, some are night owls. Nothing to do with age and not a lot you can really do about it.
Druid
Yeh I for a fact cannot sleep before 4am, not that I usually ever try to anyway. This means I find it hard to wake up before 1 or 2pm if I don't have to. I usually sleep for 10 to 11 hours if I have nothing to wake up for.
My gf hits the sack at bout 11pm and wakes up at 7.30ish. Thats an average of 9 hours-ish that both of us are awake at the same time, and in the holidays, due to my sleep cycle getting even worse, those 9 hours are cut down even further.
I find mornings boring. All about the night. Oh and +1 to what Druid said.
CheGuevara
05-03-10, 11:40 PM
Yeh I for a fact cannot sleep before 4am, not that I usually ever try to anyway. This means I find it hard to wake up before 1 or 2pm if I don't have to. I usually sleep for 10 to 11 hours if I have nothing to wake up for.
My gf hits the sack at bout 11pm and wakes up at 7.30ish. Thats an average of 9 hours-ish that both of us are awake at the same time, and in the holidays, due to my sleep cycle getting even worse, those 9 hours are cut down even further.
I find mornings boring. All about the night. Oh and +1 to what Druid said.
For us it's her falling asleep by 9pm and waking up at 7am. I fall asleep at 1am or 2am and wake up at 8am. She seems to think I've got it easy "sleeping in" an hour longer, but has no real perception about how little sleep I get on average, relatively speaking. Caffeine is my ally.
Eh. Wish I could fall asleep half as easily... I heard on radio 4 that adults need 8 hours sleep a night. What I'd give for that.
I quite like it when miss C falls asleep early, as I'm a merciless teaser. ;)
CheGuevara
05-03-10, 11:44 PM
I quite like it when miss C falls asleep early, as I'm a merciless teaser. ;)
Me as well. Mrs G has developed a "spidey sense" for when I lick my finger and am about to stick it in her ear! ("wet willy" where I'm from)
fastdruid
05-03-10, 11:47 PM
Sleeping longer reduces life expectancy. :)
Druid
CheGuevara
05-03-10, 11:55 PM
Sleeping longer reduces life expectancy. :)
Druid
Interesting - Due to avg age expectancies I've assumed I will pass far sooner, and when I retire she will support me! If I show her this theory I'm doomed!
DarrenSV650S
06-03-10, 12:05 AM
sleepiness increases proportionally with age
as shown in this graph
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/line-graph.gif
barwel1992
06-03-10, 12:06 AM
i think its great the the GF falls asleep about 11pm that gives me 4-5hours to do what i want so i can go work on the bike in the garage (heated) or play COD or wach gory films or porn lol and she never realises
ohh and she talks in her sleep so i have lots of ammo to take the **** out of her with :lol:
fastdruid
06-03-10, 12:22 AM
LOL, my wife is normally a late owl but while pregnant she's regularly been out like a light by 10pm.
Druid
my missus goes to bed at 10pm if there is something on the tv.. or 8.30 to read a book...
that leaves me .....
all alone.
BTW House rocks.... ;-)
I am 26 and I really struggle to stay awake past 10pm. If iam doing something interesting I can stay up all night otherwise i'm asleep.
On the other hand I wake at 6.30am withou fail, even if I go to be at 3am. Iam an early to bed early up person, I hate to waste a day.
Specialone
06-03-10, 08:16 AM
I am 26 and I really struggle to stay awake past 10pm. If iam doing something interesting I can stay up all night otherwise i'm asleep.
On the other hand I wake at 6.30am withou fail, even if I go to be at 3am. Iam an early to bed early up person, I hate to waste a day.
I hate going to bed too early, but i also, like you, get up early as well.
I also hate wasting the day, some nights when i get home i'll fall asleep after my dinner for 15 mins or so then i'll go to bed around 12-12.30.
Funnily enough what you said about doing something, if i play my PS3, i could stay awake all night, put a DVD on and ill be asleep by 10.30pm.
Mr wife goes to bed most nights by 10, we hardly ever go to bed at the same time;).
IMO, some people need more sleep than others, 6 hrs is enough for me, my wife needs 8 hrs.
For example, i went to bed at 2.am this morning, i have been up now since 7.30am.
BTW, che, i also turn 40 this year :(
Phil
....at 10.20pm precisely, I watch the kitchen clock, low and behold his eyes start rolling..
Peg still has you slaving away in the kitchen at 10:20pm? Good man :notworthy:
I'm a 10:30pm kinda guy these days, at the grand old age of 46. Mind you, I am in work at 7:00am each day, so have an excuse.
dizzyblonde
06-03-10, 09:21 AM
LOL, my wife is normally a late owl but while pregnant she's regularly been out like a light by 10pm.
Druid
I'd be lucky if I could sleep all night, and I've a long way to go yet.:( Had restless sleep with the last one, but that was in the last three months.
When I'm on nights I sleep a few hrs after my last shift, so thats 6.30am til around 12, then once I'm up I generally find I can't sleep until 1.30am!
Nights makes your sleep patterns very odd, although I generally make sure I have 8 hrs no matter what I'm doing.
Dicky Ticker
06-03-10, 09:45 AM
As I am probably one of the oldest on here I found it very hard to stop waking up at 4:30-5:00am after doing it for 30+years. I have finally managed to get myself into the 11:00pm-7:00am slot,not a lot of benefit during the dark mornings[winter] but at least when the good weather is here I have the whole day to decide what I want to do.
I find that if I stay in bed for longer than 8hrs I have a stinking headache,but apart from holidays or special occassions 11:00pm for me,yawning my head off by then
I know different people have varying sleep patterns but I have never managed to fathom why people want to stay up till 3-4 o'clock in the morning and then loose half the day sleeping.
For a while I did an 8 on 8 off job and that screwed my up completely and I was so knackered after 5 days I could sleep for 16hrs easy.
Bring on the sunshine:D
N.B. Dizzy---How come when your "Old man" goes away he is full of beans at 11:30-12:00 o'clock at night,willing to trail the streets looking for a kebab or chips and curry sauce:)
Sid Squid
06-03-10, 10:14 AM
I don't really know whether she sucks or you do. But I've voted she does so you've got more ammo. Us oldies need all the solidarity we can get.
Biker Biggles
06-03-10, 12:03 PM
Ok a bit of background. Please keep in mind this is just for fun - I love my wife and wouldn't change her for anything -just a minor dig at her inability to stay awake longer than her Nan.
1) I turn 40 this year. My 24yo (turning 25, yes I rock!) wife should manage to stay awake past 9pm on weekends.
2) Her job in a childcare/family centre is really difficult (baby massage and setting out cookies) and 9pm on a friday night for a hard working 24yo is a stretch. Old bastids like me should try and understand the pressures of a younger generation :)
As I said, just for fun, so when she wakes up I have some ammo to tease further with. No need for any harsh or overly rude comments in either direction -my wife is a lovely woman who does much for all of the people in her life. She deserves no abuse whatsoever. I should be half as decent as she is.
Lets face it you are an old f&rt grumpy old man with an old f&rts attitude.:smt011
Whatever next?Soon you will be having a mid life crisis and going off to do trackdays and stuff like that.Then it will be front fork conversions to help you keep up with the youngsters.;-)
:D:D:D
EssexDave
06-03-10, 12:27 PM
Personally, I go to bed at midnight, sometimes half midnight, and I'm up at 620 to get to work for 730.
Sometimes I am tired, yes, but I prefer it. If I get up at 9 and go into work at 10 I'll feel even more tired..
I've never really needed more than 5 hours sleep. I quite regularly go to bed at 1am and get up for work at 5-30 then do 200 miles worth of driving and work, then repeat the same cycle for the rest of the week. Even at weekends I'll wake up at 5-30 and go back to bed when I realise I have nothing to get up that early for.
It's been like that since I was about 30, before that I struggled to get out of bed before 10am even if I went to bed before midnight
-Ralph-
06-03-10, 12:50 PM
Cradle snatchers ;)
Miss Alpinestarhero
06-03-10, 08:49 PM
I heard on radio 4 that adults need 8 hours sleep a night
Not true. The average amount of sleep that most adults get is 8 hours. That doesnt mean that the recommended amount of sleep is 8 hours. Every individual is different and can function fine on different amounts of sleep. Some people only need 4 hours, others need 8 and some require more. So the whole 8 hours thing is a myth.
I think working in a nursery would be very hard, I mean who'd want to look after other peoples' kids, looking after my own (one's enough) is a nightmare and if I have her all day I'm spent by 6pm:rolleyes:
Not true. The average amount of sleep that most adults get is 8 hours. That doesnt mean that the recommended amount of sleep is 8 hours. Every individual is different and can function fine on different amounts of sleep. Some people only need 4 hours, others need 8 and some require more. So the whole 8 hours thing is a myth.
Yeh actually studies have shown that you have the lowest mortality risk if you sleep between 6-7hours. I'm completely screwed then cos I'm usually 10 hours if not more.
carternd
06-03-10, 10:35 PM
I think working in a nursery would be very hard, I mean who'd want to look after other peoples' kids, looking after my own (one's enough) is a nightmare and if I have her all day I'm spent by 6pm:rolleyes:
+1 for that thought.
Sorry dude, I think it's just the way she is. Myself, I have to force myself to bed before midnight, getting up in the mornings is just a struggle, whoever it was who gets up 6.30am, I'd love to be able to, but I haven't the willpower. Also, her job I'd think is physically tiring, and that's always a recipe for sleeping lots. Unlike stressful, or mentally tiring work, where you have to wait for your brain to stop spinning before you can even contemplate sleep.
Fruity-ya-ya
07-03-10, 12:04 AM
I'm 30, my wife (also a nursery worker) turns 31 on Sunday.
She is always sleepy, napping after work if our 3yr old allows.
I get up around 5.30 (snooze button gets used from 5-5:30 driving her mad) and often don't go to sleep until after the witching hour.
Oddly, if she doesn't go to bed before me (6 week school holidays etc) I find it very hard to drop off until she's in the sack :makelurve:
Must be a child career thing?
Do I fall under young or old at 30 :smt017 (n.b. say old & I'll come after you with my zimmer).
p.s. She is also a super woman whom I could not imagine not being with :smt060
Miss Alpinestarhero
07-03-10, 10:55 AM
Yeh actually studies have shown that you have the lowest mortality risk if you sleep between 6-7hours. I'm completely screwed then cos I'm usually 10 hours if not more.
I wouldnt believe the studies, it is only correlational and they cant control (or acount for) every possible factor that can contribute to low mortality rates. So you can't say 100% that 6 hours sleep definately reduces your mortality rate. Lots of other things play a part too!
I think they can be reasonably accurate. 'After adjusting for age, smoking, alcohol, exercise, depression, snoring, obesity, and history of cancer and cardiovascular disease, sleeping less than 6 hours or more than 7 hours remained associated with an increased risk of death'. This was a study between 1986 to 2000, looking at just under 83,000 women, which is a huge sample size.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15712344
After all, that's how all trials are concluded, be it the mortality of certain illnesses, the protective effects of certain drugs..well lots of things. And also I guess that's where confidence intervals come into play.
dizzyblonde
07-03-10, 12:16 PM
yer all doomed don't matter how much sleep you all get, your all going to die one day anyway
FACT ;-)
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 04:16 PM
Just got back to this thread. I'm having a bit of a laugh, because honestly I was VERY VERY drunk when I posted it (having downed the better part of a bottle of whisky). I'd have forgotten about it entirely, but Mrs G informed me in the AM that I had woken her when I got to bed to let her know I'd started a poll and was going to crush her in the results! :)
I really ought to stay away from the computer when drinking, but have had a chuckle at what I posted and some of the brilliant replies.
Alpinestarhero
07-03-10, 04:18 PM
yer all doomed don't matter how much sleep you all get, your all going to die one day anyway
FACT ;-)
aaah crap
here's me swimming in anti-aging creams to preserve my beautiful youth
Fruity-ya-ya
07-03-10, 09:26 PM
aaah crap
here's me swimming in anti-aging creams to preserve my beautiful youth
+1 but not the anti-again creams, just cider and ice-creams.
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 09:39 PM
Us oldies need all the solidarity we can get.
Thanks for the support Sid!
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 09:41 PM
Lets face it you are an old f&rt grumpy old man with an old f&rts attitude.:smt011
Whatever next?Soon you will be having a mid life crisis and going off to do trackdays and stuff like that.Then it will be front fork conversions to help you keep up with the youngsters.;-)
:D:D:D
LOL, BB I will for sure check you hockey-style (rememeber we Canucks have won the gold!) next time we cross paths at Rockingham -assuming I can keep up with my advanced age and grumpy demeanor :D
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 09:45 PM
Hang on -this graph seems to show that Sleep*Ohms(resistance) increases with age. Therefore resistance to sleep increases as we get older.
sleepiness increases proportionally with age
as shown in this graph
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/line-graph.gif
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 09:49 PM
Cradle snatchers ;)
1) I look good for my age :)
2) When I buy milk, I always look for the carton with the longest expiry date... :smt028
CheGuevara
07-03-10, 10:03 PM
BTW, I should be clear (as there has been mention of it), and if Mrs G reads this she will shoot me for under-rating her career (and her degree), but she doesn't work in a nursery (although she has worked in them, and managed them), she works in a childrens centre -Sure Start, and is courting managment roles in that environment.
She's worked hard to get that far at an early age, so I don't want to discredit her career or efforts. That said, anyone who helps with the development or education of children and/or families, particularly those who struggle, deserves respect. I'm proud of what my wife has achieved in any case :) It seems a bit odd in hindsight (thinking I was in my mid 30's then), but I remember proof reading her dissertaion on the UN convention on children's rights. I think it did a lot to anchor my opinion of her as a good person and a great future Mom(Mum).
dizzyblonde
07-03-10, 10:53 PM
Hang on -this graph seems to show that Sleep*Ohms(resistance) increases with age. Therefore resistance to sleep increases as we get older.
Ohmmmmmmmmm:smt017
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3759123241_108bbc3bbd.jpg
carternd
07-03-10, 10:58 PM
Ohmmmmmmmmm:smt017
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3759123241_108bbc3bbd.jpg
Have you been waiting long to post that pic somewhere?
dizzyblonde
07-03-10, 11:04 PM
Have you been waiting long to post that pic somewhere?
:confused: no why?
carternd
08-03-10, 08:59 AM
:confused: no why?
Oh, is the sort of thing I'd do! Like a witty response that waits a month for someone to say something inane. Never mind!
dizzyblonde
08-03-10, 10:04 AM
Perhaps my witt is sharp ;-)
plowsie
08-03-10, 10:15 AM
My weekend shows us 20 somethings can keep up.
Normal working day Friday up at 8 and to work till 5.30 pm. Shopping and ice skating and then didn't sleep at all Friday through to Saturday, went gym at 8.30 on Saturday, had an hours sleep 2pm till 3pm on Saturday, drove to Birmingham, went to a Rave in Birmingham Saturday night, pumped on energy drinks, no alcohol in me whatsoever, got back to hotel at 4am, didn't get to sleep because the mates I was with were talking, then had to drive home at 5am as we were kicked out of hotel, finally hit the pillow at 6.30am, my alarm then went off at 7am to get up for football. Played football then didn't get home till 3pm, ate then finally went to bed and slept till 8pm. Happy days.
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