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Sid Squid

10-03-10, 12:00 PM

vixis

10-03-10, 12:08 PM

Sidders, Democracy may not work but it works better than the other systems....what people seem to misunderstand is that our system only works *marginally* better than other systems...which is to say, badly.

Paul the 6th

10-03-10, 12:14 PM

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47426000/jpg/_47426996_008709982-1.jpg

do you sollomly swear to tell the hoof, the whole hoof and nothing but the hoof or take away my paws?

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 12:19 PM

We've given democracy enough time tbh, all it's got us is partisan politics where the two main groups are either comically opposite or the same thing underneath the slogans, with nobody truly representing the people

I reckon it's time for a benevolent dictatorship...

Who wants to help me overthrow the government so I can set myself up (PM if you don't want to say on the public forum)

;)

Warthog

10-03-10, 12:21 PM

Well, we may be, but despite the fact that they have rejected a scheme to appoint state funded lawyers to represent animals, it seems the Swiss are way ahead of us:

See this link here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8554012.stm)

What really stands out is that the Swiss had the opportunity to choose, we don't even get the chance to have a referendum on matters that presently seem more important than this.

In a nation of increasingly stupid and ill-informed people, the fewer referenda the better in my opinion! Certainly spare us from pathetic animal lawyer cases like this, I'm glad we heard nothing about it.

simesb

10-03-10, 12:31 PM

benevolent dictatorship...

I'm interested in how benevolent your dictatorship will be if I don't do what you dictate :confused: If you don't make me do it then you're not dictating; if you make me do something I don't like then you can't be benevolent. Surely an oxymoron...

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 12:36 PM

I'm interested in how benevolent your dictatorship will be if I don't do what you dictate :confused: If you don't make me do it then you're not dictating; if you make me do something I don't like then you can't be benevolent. Surely an oxymoron...Benevolence has nothing to do with whether you like it or not...;)

simesb

10-03-10, 12:38 PM

Benevolence has nothing to do with whether you like it or not...;)

Benevolence: desire to do good to others; goodwill; charitableness.

I know sometimes I don't like things that are good for me, but in the wider context....you're wrong.

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 12:47 PM

Benevolence: desire to do good to others; goodwill;

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it's not good

There's nothing about a benevolent dictatorship that excludes democratic process such as referendums on national issues, so you can have your vote if you don't like my proposed policy, just make sure you vote for the right option or I'll have you shipped off to the camps:smt039

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 12:49 PM

Benevolence has nothing to do with whether you like it or not...;)

It's all for the common good...

that is why those people had to die. If it helps, don't think of them as people, think of them as live stock. Every farmers has to slaughter livestock occasionally. :cool:

Government is run on money, there is never enough money to go around, too many expenses. Solution remove the expenses: Kill the Poor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWO4JxM3nDc).

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 12:51 PM

It's all for the common good...

that is why those people had to die. If it helps, don't think of them as people, think of them as live stock. Every farmers has to slaughter livestock occasionally. :cool:

Government is run on money, there is never enough money to go around, too many expenses. Solution remove the expenses: Kill the Poor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWO4JxM3nDc).

Ooooh I like you

You can be vice dictator:cool:;)

simesb

10-03-10, 12:55 PM

You can be vice dictator:cool:;)

You need somebody to dictate vice?

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 12:55 PM

Ooooh I like you

You can be vice dictator:cool:;)

Can I be minister in charge of Cleansing?

I feel an urge to clean the streets... :smt081

The joy of being in Amnesty is you learn how to do it properly, none of this woosy hiding the bodies. If you get every body to do it, every body is guilty and no one can claim they didn't do it. I believe Argentina tried it while under military rule.

Sid Squid

10-03-10, 01:00 PM

In a nation of increasingly stupid and ill-informed people, the fewer referenda the better in my opinion! Certainly spare us from pathetic animal lawyer cases like this, I'm glad we heard nothing about it.
You may be right about this particular referendum, as it may not seem like a good use of public money and time, but, even if you consider such a referendum a waste of time the fact is that the Swiss are getting a choice, they're being asked how they feel.

We're not. Even on matters of significantly greater importance.

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 01:00 PM

Can I be minister in charge of Cleansing?

I feel an urge to clean the streets... :smt081

Ahhh

I see what you're getting at...;)

I'd say it would be better to "clean the streets" late at night under cover of darkness when most of the "litter" is congregated on street corners with bottles of white lightning, one grenade and you'd have lots of "refuse" to pick up

;););)

At this point I should probably apologise to Sid for this wide open throttle thread hijack:-dd

ophic

10-03-10, 01:09 PM

At this point I should probably apologise to Sid for this wide open throttle thread hijack:-dd
Problem is, you're just not dictator material :p

Biker Biggles

10-03-10, 01:09 PM

This is nothing.Totally bankrupt Iceland has just held an expensive referendum on a an agreement to pay back some money to Britain and Holland.This despite the said agreement no longer being on the table as it has been superceeded by a different agreement.Now that surely is a waste of money they havnt got?

Sid Squid

10-03-10, 01:28 PM

At this point I should probably apologise to Sid for this wide open throttle thread hijack:-dd
Not at all my dear chap, this is all most... enlightening.

It's quite a 'social engineering' project you're considering. I suspect there's more support for it than voices to be heard though.

10-03-10, 01:29 PM

The Swiss put cuckoos in clocks though:smt017

Here, apathy rules. How many people will even bother to vote in May. Yes I know there are arguments about not liking anyof the parties and so on, but lack of engagement in the political process is one of our greatest weaknesses.

Sid Squid

10-03-10, 01:33 PM

The Swiss put cuckoos in clocks though:smt017
And, it seems, without legal representation.

Here, apathy rules. How many people will even bother to vote in May. Yes I know there are arguments about not liking anyof the parties and so on, but lack of engagement in the political process is one of our greatest weaknesses.
I wholeheartedly agree.

maviczap

10-03-10, 01:33 PM

Here, apathy rules. How many people will even bother to vote in May. Yes I know there are arguments about not liking anyof the parties and so on, but lack of engagement in the political process is one of our greatest weaknesses.

Agreed, but maybe it stems from the politican not listening to the public. If they don't listen to us, what's the point?

I'm not apathetic, but does seem to me, that Westminster just decides whats best for us, without asking.

I do go and vote

simesb

10-03-10, 01:35 PM

Here, apathy rules. How many people will even bother to vote in May. Yes I know there are arguments about not liking anyof the parties and so on, but lack of engagement in the political process is one of our greatest weaknesses.

Should we legislate so that people must vote? With postal voting etc, it is very easy to ensure your voice is heard if you want it to be.

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 01:36 PM

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 01:44 PM

Agreed, but maybe it stems from the politican not listening to the public. If they don't listen to us, what's the point?

Seems much of recent policy making has been in response to terrorism, so to get them to listen to you all you need to do is start blowing up public buildings

Blow up the right ones and you could probably coerce them into coming up with the laws you want...

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 01:56 PM

Blow up the right ones and you could probably coerce them into coming up with the laws you want...

Or they blow them up, then claim new laws are needed to protect you. They capture some "terrorists", but never send them to public trial, but have them tortured and executed to protect us. But it is done in countries that do not subscribe to our "wishy washy" human rights, so they can pretend to keep their hands clean.

This was all in my plan already for when TLW and I take over...:cool:

THE KITTIE IS WATCHING YOU!

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 02:03 PM

Or they blow them up, then claim new laws are needed to protect you. They capture some "terrorists", but never send them to public trial, but have them tortured and executed to protect us. But it is done in countries that do not subscribe to our "wishy washy" human rights, so they can pretend to keep their hands clean.

When I am the law, I'll blow up lots of things:smt096:smt074:smt063

That reminds me, nobody get too attached to London please...

ophic

10-03-10, 02:09 PM

That reminds me, nobody get too attached to London please...
you just won my vote. Not that you'll care about votes, being a dictator :smt017

Stu

10-03-10, 02:14 PM

So the Isle of Wight is going to become the seat of power for the UK?:smt043

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 02:21 PM

So the Isle of Wight is going to become the seat of power for the UK?:smt043
Watch it you, one of the missiles aimed at London may "accidentally" land a bit to the South West...;)

anna

10-03-10, 04:25 PM

Indeed, even in Iceland the population are given a vote on whether to pay the countries debts!:rolleyes:

CoolGirl

10-03-10, 05:54 PM

In a nation of increasingly stupid and ill-informed people, the fewer referenda the better in my opinion! Certainly spare us from pathetic animal lawyer cases like this, I'm glad we heard nothing about it.

go on, do a nice segue into the Jon Venablies 'indignant red-top reading mob' debacle - dare ya!;)

Indeed, even in Iceland the population are given a vote on whether to pay the countries debts!:rolleyes:

if only our lot were so brave.

(you lot know I'm going to have to stop all of this shortly, so getting it in whilst I can)

yorkie_chris

10-03-10, 09:58 PM

Not at all my dear chap, this is all most... enlightening.

It's quite a 'social engineering' project you're considering. I suspect there's more support for it than voices to be heard though.

I'd rather have TLW in charge than Comrade Brown even if he does intend to nuke that London!

Should we legislate so that people must vote? With postal voting etc, it is very easy to ensure your voice is heard if you want it to be.

Do you really want all people voting, considering half of them are of below average intelligence?

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 10:12 PM

Do you really want all people voting, considering half of them are of below average intelligence?

I wish I had thought of this, When TLW and I take power, I think we need to have a re-education project.

However, LTW had better watch his back, I am ambitious and have great plans that extend beyond three glorious years... :smt081

"Under the spreading chestnut tree,
I sold you and you sold me..."

the_lone_wolf

10-03-10, 10:19 PM

I wish I had thought of this, When TLW and I take power, I think we need to have a re-education project.

It's simple

We call it "Intelligence Restructuring" and say it'll increase the nation's average IQ...

Then we ship off everyone with an IQ below 100 off to be reprocessed into fuel pellets

Repeat it every few years and we'll be left with the cleverest members of society...

And lots of fuel...

:cool:

Sid Squid

10-03-10, 10:42 PM

go on, do a nice segue into the Jon Venablies 'indignant red-top reading mob' debacle - dare ya!;)
Well, that would fit with you sounding like Kevin Maguire :p.

Anyhoo, why will you have to stop? :confused:

Jayneflakes

10-03-10, 10:53 PM

It's simple

We call it "Intelligence Restructuring" and say it'll increase the nation's average IQ...

Then we ship off everyone with an IQ below 100 off to be reprocessed into fuel pellets

Repeat it every few years and we'll be left with the cleverest members of society...

And lots of fuel...

:cool:

Soylent Green surely, when the proles are banned from owning private vehicles or having electricity after 2200 hours, why will they need fuel? They can eat their Soylent Green and be happy. Not only that, the numbers of them reduced by cleansing will go towards making sure that we will have plenty of fertiliser! :-?

The roads will be clear and every body will be much better off! :cool:

I think that there are lessons we can learn from Huxley too.

Spiderman

11-03-10, 12:51 PM

To distract you from the real issues and to hide my true evil,

here is a kitty in the bath.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs257.snc1/10433_178881530827_684250827_3794510_1225435_n.jpg

No will even think of questioning authority while they can have pictures of kitties in the bath.

Remember, we are watching you, we tell you what to think and if you cross our boundaries, you will find life very hard.

Enjoy the kitty, that is an order. :cool:

i dont even remember what this thread was about now tbh.

I saw the kitty and loved the kitty.

Kitty in a bath is the best thing ever to do with kitties. And baths.

I now want a kitty. And a bath. And some bubbles.

My life will them be a utpoia, thanks you for the kitty in the bath. All my troubles have left me.

the_lone_wolf

11-03-10, 12:53 PM

i dont even remember what this thread was about now tbh.

I saw the kitty and loved the kitty.

Kitty in a bath is the best thing ever to do with kitties. And baths.

I now want a kitty. And a bath. And some bubbles.

My life will them be a utpoia, thanks you for the kitty in the bath. All my troubles have left me.

Men:rolleyes:

Show them a sopping wet pussy and they're in another dimension:rolleyes:

Jayneflakes

11-03-10, 01:01 PM

Men:rolleyes:

Show them a sopping wet pussy and they're in another dimension:rolleyes:

Proves my point, although it may be a little tenuous.

What we need now is a form of nationalised gambling, like some kind of lottery where the proles can spend their hard earned money on dreams never likely to come true. Then give them a televised national sport that they can follow, chanting like imbeciles, quacking like ducks to use the newspeak term.

Before long you can let stuff slip through the news, while appearing to undertake the rules of Governance.

Once I am in charge and the dust has settled on the bodies of the fallen, the world will be a more peaceful place.

Spiderman

11-03-10, 01:14 PM

Can i be in charge of the policing please Jayne.

My ideas are simple, no "fines" will be imposed on those who drive badly or too fast, quite the opposite. The police will pull you over for being good on the road and award you with a small cup of jelly and ice cream. Flavours of your own choice too.

Criminals will be taught the error of their ways of having whatever they ahve done to others done to them but just a little bit worse. Those who cant live in our Utopian society wont do jail time they will simply be shot into outer space. Without a ship to go in, just attached to a simple rocket that can get to outer space and then fall back to earth to be reused.

Jayneflakes

11-03-10, 01:32 PM

Can i be in charge of the policing please Jayne.

You will need to talk to TLW, he is in charge until I place the dagger in his back "Et Tu Brutae?" :smt028

My ideas are simple, no "fines" will be imposed on those who drive badly or too fast, quite the opposite. The police will pull you over for being good on the road and award you with a small cup of jelly and ice cream. Flavours of your own choice too.

Is it Vegetarian Jelly? If not, you are for the chop matey! :-?

Those who cant live in our Utopian society wont do jail time they will simply be shot into outer space. Without a ship to go in, just attached to a simple rocket that can get to outer space and then fall back to earth to be reused.

Sounds expensive and also they would go as a martyr, the party cannot allow that. Every one must love the party and anyone who does not will be altered until they do. Only once the Party has won the fight over the individual can they win the fight over the masses. Once you love the party, you can be cleansed. A simple shot in the back of the head will do, but you will have to pay for your own torture, the longer you keep going, the more it will cost you and there is no escape to Brazil for you once you are in that chair.

Room 101 for Spidey please... :smt081

Spiderman

11-03-10, 01:34 PM

But, but......but....pah and i thought you loved me :(

I'll go to room 101 by myself otherwise i fear you may charge me for the attendants that drag me there.

Jayneflakes

11-03-10, 01:44 PM

But, but......but....pah and i thought you loved me :(

I'll go to room 101 by myself otherwise i fear you may charge me for the attendants that drag me there.

We do love you, that is why we want to change you...

"Oh yes Winston, they got me years ago" :-(

ophic

11-03-10, 01:49 PM

Sounds expensive and also they would go as a martyr, the party cannot allow that. Every one must love the party and anyone who does not will be altered until they do. Only once the Party has won the fight over the individual can they win the fight over the masses. Once you love the party, you can be cleansed. A simple shot in the back of the head will do, but you will have to pay for your own torture, the longer you keep going, the more it will cost you and there is no escape to Brazil for you once you are in that chair.
I'm worried. You're just a little bit too good at this.

SeJayneUs?